Had a guy ask for an estimate on replacing all this siding, I already told him there is no telling what we might get into under that stuff. I'm going to put a tape to it in a couple of days. I have no idea what the going rate is nowadays. Maybe FireBalls will chime in.

Hope he's doing windows too

I’d not only be leery of what the frame under is like, but also if someone owns that if they can afford to pay you!

rental property, but yeah I'm leery.

T-111 right over that stuff,new windows+ trim...

He wants it replaced and any rot under it replaced also.

Yeah probably best but this is south texas and chit like that is common, it's in Molina the west side hood.

https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc822818/m1/97/

Is the clapboard direct to stud,no sheathing?
Or it it that rotted ?

Can-O-Worms

A coat of Sherwin Williams paint will fix it right up.

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I wouldn't touch it unless I was really needing work.
No foundation and most definitely critters are living under it.
No telling what the framing looks like.
Looks like horizontal 2x8 in that one pic. Not telling how it was framed.

Can o' Worms

Actually you could skin it with real wood B&B...

Enough break-up so any irregularities would not be noticed.

How much money does this guy have? That is not going to be cheap and I would get at least half up front if I decided to even take it on.


Looks like the place needs a match, honestly.

Haven't seen it in person yet, they just texted pics and asked if I'm interested. Someone I've done work for in the past back when I was doing some remodeling recommended me.

Triple the going rate and make clear the limitations of any warranty that might apply and let the quote fly.

Definitely, I told him it wouldn't be cheap with the cost of lumber nowadays.

No foundation. Now would be the time to put a foundation in as he could access it by removing the first 3 rows of siding. Then throw some widows in and stucco it.

Hell no, not unless they signed a contract with a sliding fee scale based on what's underneath, and paid a deposit too.

I'm not worried because it's the hood, nobody will mess with me or my stuff, I'm known.

Call these guys…

Lol.

Whole lotta money up front and regular progress payments is what that job is.

I would pass on that job looks like a headache, only way I would consider would be needing work (money) cause I had no other jobs lined up. I would tell him I was too busy and give him a referral to someone else.

I'm sure he likes a challenge

Looks lilke a site for sore eyes.

Watch for bees

Yeah, no schidt! We pulled the siding off a shack one time and about a billion and a half bumble bees swarmed out, PISSED!



The poor guy up on the roof... LMAO

That’s an easy job. You reach it all with a 6 foot ladder.

Run away, fast...that job will grow out of control, and a pizzed off customer in the end. A good bit of the framing will be rotted, heck driving nails might break plaster on the inside walls.

Any electrical problems, like shorts, arcing?
hint…

ETA: insured? 😏

Jewish lightning?
Are there any in South Tx?

wilson has the right idea.

I doubt I'll mess with it, it's not like I'm hurting for work like a few months ago.

Looks like one of those jobs that's impossible to bid because it really is "time and materials - of which there's no way to know how this lands, given current status. And most people get about 100k into this, see it's only 1/3 done and bail - I never get paid"

thanks for making me come to my senses. I'd just end up getting myself overloaded.

That house is not worth more than 50-60,000 in that neighborhood.

I'd stay away from that mess, if I owned it I would burn it and start over.

That's a job I would only take on a cost+ bid.

Exactly and I feel like you could easily walk past that number with siding/windows and structural repairs. Bam, 1/2 in and owner pulls the plug.

Doesn't appear the owner for what he wants done knows what he's getting into cost wise he's not seeing the whole picture. I may be wrong but that's the way I see it.

Yep. That's a headache you don't need Rog.

ok...

I bet there is brown recluse spiders all over in that place.

I'm sure there is, though I've never really worried much about them.

This ^.

Get a check every 2 weeks >in writing.

Rog, I wouldn't touch that, with Ballz's dick !

I had a buddy at work that got bit. The brown recluse was transplanted by Mexicans.


His leg was all kinds of messed up for a long time.

QuickSand!...

I’ve worked more screwed houses than that. Got paid every time. It’s people that live beyond their means that can’t pay you . Give them a quote and them buy the materials and get paid every week. Pull a permit and get started!!

Given no foundation, I bet there's not a square dimension anywhere. I'd pass.

Best thing for that place is an up to date insurance policy and some Jewish lightning.

Get a BIG deposit on your labor, and have the property owner open an account in his own name with a supplier for materials. Work until the labor deposit is used up, and wait to do anything else until the slush fund is replanished. Otherwise, run- - - -don't walk away. That's how I built racing engines for round track guys with champagne tastes an a beer budget.

Good points and I’d WALK

Oy! Just looking at that ya wonder what the roof looks like.

Might find a hood rat to toss a couple road flares in the window. Have a modular rolled in.

BTDT. Thats not a promising thing except for a larger bill. Probably house pads not level. Rotted etc... also.

BUT if you are going to do it, do it right for sure.

Just talked my nephew into replacing a failing beam under his new to him house and adding a couple of extra support beams to split spans in half. Floor is MUCH better now.
Original talk was how to do new flooring... yep no flooring until we fix the under floor issues.

Good luck.

Yessir! You gotta start at the bottom, to have anything at the top! Foundations are key!

All you gotta do is tell LBP the guy has 3 - 250 daughters and you gotta helper!!!

Son in law is a 20 year old drywall, about 6 years experience working with his Pap.
He has been doing side jobs for a couple years, and is getting a good reputation,
going from patch work to having contractors call him.

One, a one man show, has a reputation for not paying. But he has paid S-I-L for every
little job so far. Now he wants him to supply, hang, and finish several rooms.

"Buddy, if you do it, get materials up front. Plus.
Maybe installments on the labor. Maybe he screws you on labor, but at least
you don't leave the job poorer than you started it."


You didn't need that advice Roger.
But looking at that mess on a low dollar building made me think of it.

That was my first thought....that, and cash up front for the whole job...

Chicken coop conversion into low income housing?

That’s what it looks like. LOL

Agree with what’s been posted.

Time and materials, foundation repair, I would worry about electrical issues you might run into also — I have seen some scary D-I-Y electrical work over the years.

BMT

Don't forget the diesel

I've been into something like this before but I was remodeling just the electrical.
Be prepared for lots of rodents nests, rat and mouse crap everywhere.
Don't breathe it in! Hantavirus is bad stuff, don't know if thats an issue in TX but it sure is in NE AZ.

Roger, I would not give him any estimates until I got a look at what's underneath.

Is it rot on the outside or is it just peeling paint?


Off topic, but...

I hate wood frame houses. Here in FL, they're a never ending headache from sun, water intrusion, wind (hurricanes).

I've never owned one. Never wanted to. I have a buddy that used to rehab them back in the day. Fearless. He had a crew that would just go in and knock them out.

Bucket loader,dumpster then move in one of those rent to own sheds

Boy am I glad I found this thread. Rog, listen ol' buddy.

You get yourself a load of soccer ball sized rocks dropped off there, push them up around the base of the house with a Bobcat so as it looks kinda like someone from the fourth century after Christ built a foundation. Declare that place some kind of historical destination and sell tickets for 12 bucks a head for busloads of school kids and old folks from retirement homes.

You can bet your ass some old geezer through there is gunna tell the time the 300 apaches rode around that house all night and he held them off single-handedly with a Colt single action with an arrow through his head, blinded by the blood. All the old gals will be linin' up back at the facility for a few minutes with ol' Buster Doogan.

It'll be epic.


Or you could slap some T1-11 on that bad boy and throw in an $8 driveway and you'll be schittin in tall cotton.

I don't know whatchy'all talkin bout no foundation for.

I sees some cinder blocks under there or something.

that's better'n havin; it setting on some ol logs or pallets.

Yikes... I'd assume it needs to be completely rewired, plumbing, etc. The siding is probably the least of the issues. That place needs a mini-ex & skid steer to tag team it, and then start fresh.

One flooring guy to another, siding isn’t flooring.

Walk away or bid it so high you whistle when you get it.

Kenny Rogers had a song....

If at all, day wages paid weekly, at most, and he buys the materials, etc. as needed, on his hook. If it goes south, the most you lose is 40 hours.

Apparently... you are still drunk.

Oliver Anthony could write a song about that house...

And make millions...

I'll probably look at it for [bleep] and giggles. I'm busy right now, I'm doing carpet and some LVP for Lennar and Hogan Homes. several hundred new homes in 4 new subdivisions in the area along with the work I do for my regular contractors.

KB Homes still big in Texas? They were all over San Antonio when I lived there. Entire neighborhoods went up in 6 weeks it seemed. Knew a lot of people who bought them. No basements, which was weird to this WI guy.

Not in this area.

If your working in the tracks, you have access to all the construction workers. The tracks usually hire competent people at the best prices. You could do this job cost plus 10 percent and just oversee it. If I owned that place , I’d do one wall at time with foundation. It’s not that difficult. Plan on insulation once stripped. Maybe wiring. When I moved to Lodi, I worked for 2 guys and they would gut the houses from the inside to the studs. Whatever the house needed. They also converted flat top roofs to pitched roofs which I never done before. In California the permits for new construction is so high, it’s cost effective to remodel. It might be different where you are.

The house looks fine as is!

It could use a little graffiti.

The owner needs to tear it down and rebuild.