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two names being pushed as short listers, and referenced in the latest American Rifleman, are really about as awful for gun people as you could imagine:

Caitlin Halligan....whose nomination to the DC circuit was successfully blocked last year, was New York's lawyer in the suits against handgun makers that would have bankrupted the industry had not the Bush administration and Congress killed them off by legislation. Her name is coming up again.

Debo Adegbile, director of litigation for the NAACP and an anti gun zealot who wrote an amicus brief in Heller arguing that there is no private right to bear arms. Nigerian/Irish mulatto, so Obama probably has a special soft spot for this guy.

this is what the election is about. these are the people Obama will nominate to the Supremes and the lower courts, and they'll be there for life.
This is one of the very best reasons, ever, to make sure a Romney type is not chosen. The recent bitchslap he received is nothing compared to what he would get in November & what we ALL will get if the kenyan 2.0 is re-installed due to the unwillingness of the GOP power brokers to read sign.. Ignore it at our peril.
Seems that if Halligan is not qualified to serve on the circuit court....she would be automatically not qualified to serve on any higher court. Of course there is also the argument that any candidate that can be discribed as "she" is a poor choice.

A MAN named Debo???? OoooooK....whatever you think is "right". opposed the Heller decision, so obviously doesn't have a good grasp of the constitution since the Supreme Court decided otherwise.
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"If the Congress and the court say the president is wrong, in the end the president would lose. And if the president and the court agreed, the Congress loses," said Gingrich. "The founding fathers designed the Constitution very specifically in a Montesquieu spirit of the laws to have a balance of power - not to have a dictatorship by any one of the three branches."



How would this apply if Obama got re-elected? Or would it?
I have always opined, that as bad as McCain was, he would never have put Sotomayor and Kagen on the Court.
The Rifleman points out that "All our victories, all our rights, all our freedoms, everything is on the line in 212"

They are right. Folks that can't find a pure enough candidate from the GOP this time, are going to help kill America when "exercise their conscience", and don't cast a vote against hussein.
We cannot thank George W. Bush enough for John Roberts and Samuel Alito.
The entire premise and notion that McCain, or Romney are somehow electable is being rejected completely by more and more people. When are those who try to force them down people's throats going to take some of the responsibility?
As a aside,the S.Ct today denied a motion to have Kagan recused from hearing and ruling upon the Health Care law.
I saw that.
Can we be sure that Romney or Newt would not pick someone just as bad?
Originally Posted by Jocko_Slugshot
We cannot thank George W. Bush enough for John Roberts and Samuel Alito.


Bush didn't pick them the people and the Republicans in Congress pick them. Remember Bush's first pick, Harriet Miers?
If they picked a fairy, would you be down? smile
Originally Posted by oulufinn
This is one of the very best reasons, ever, to make sure a Romney Ron Paul type is not chosen.


fixed it for you.
Originally Posted by derby_dude

Bush didn't pick them the people and the Republicans in Congress pick them. Remember Bush's first pick, Harriet Miers?


a little early to be lobbying for the 2012 KOTY, dude.

did you get a little ballot in the mail there at the home where you got to pick? was Napoleon handing them out?
Take comfort in this: The election is not far away. The Senate will block almost any Supreme Court appointment that Obama makes between now and then.
Originally Posted by derby_dude
Can we be sure that Romney or Newt would not pick someone just as bad?


There are no certainties. Eisenhower once stated that Earl Warren was his worst mistake. You never know how somebody is going to rule on any given constitutional issue, no matter his/her previous track record.

That being said, I'd rather take my chances with a Republican picking the next SCOTUS appointment, especially from a Second Amendment standpoint.
Ginsberg had notified Obama that she has not plans to retire this year.
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by oulufinn
This is one of the very best reasons, ever, to make sure neither Romney or Ron Paul are chosen.


fixed it for you.


Fixed your fix.

Not an overall RP fan, but someone with a goodly portion of his smaller government positions would be about perfect. His dangerous foreign policy positions skeer me a good deal. Enough to not support him for POTUS, anyway.

Romney is chock full of McCain like fail. Read some sign. It's right in front of y'all.

Originally Posted by Jocko_Slugshot
Originally Posted by derby_dude
Can we be sure that Romney or Newt would not pick someone just as bad?


There are no certainties. Eisenhower once stated that Earl Warren was his worst mistake. You never know how somebody is going to rule on any given constitutional issue, no matter his/her previous track record.

That being said, I'd rather take my chances with a Republican picking the next SCOTUS appointment, especially from a Second Amendment standpoint.


That's true.
Originally Posted by isaac
As a aside,the S.Ct today denied a motion to have Kagan recused from hearing and ruling upon the Health Care law.


i smell an ethics violation.
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Take comfort in this: The election is not far away. The Senate will block almost any Supreme Court appointment that Obama makes between now and then.


If one of the conservative justices died, and Obama had the chance to swing the court, don't you think Harry Reid would, in one minute, take the nuclear option and have the Senate vote to change the rules so that a simple majority could confirm his nominee?

He would.
Originally Posted by Jocko_Slugshot
We cannot thank George W. Bush enough for John Roberts and Samuel Alito.


Yep
I would say that this is the best reason that anybody is better than Obama. The civil war in the republican primary is music to Obamas ears.
Originally Posted by McInnis
If one of the conservative justices died, and Obama had the chance to swing the court, don't you think Harry Reid would, in one minute, take the nuclear option and have the Senate vote to change the rules so that a simple majority could confirm his nominee?

He would.


Don't be ridiculous. Only in his dreams would he do that. And your nightmares. There is zero chance that he could pull that off, even if he tried.

Let's try to get real - no one here has a clue what Bammer's appointees might be. He might not even know himself at this point. These stories are always out there and yet, when the time comes, they are always proven wrong. This is another one of those.
Originally Posted by BrentD
Originally Posted by McInnis
If one of the conservative justices died, and Obama had the chance to swing the court, don't you think Harry Reid would, in one minute, take the nuclear option and have the Senate vote to change the rules so that a simple majority could confirm his nominee?

He would.


Don't be ridiculous. Only in his dreams would he do that. And your nightmares. There is zero chance that he could pull that off, even if he tried.

Let's try to get real - no one here has a clue what Bammer's appointees might be. He might not even know himself at this point. These stories are always out there and yet, when the time comes, they are always proven wrong. This is another one of those.


He wouldn't have to, Enough senators feel that "advise and consent" means determine if a perspective justice has the basic qualifications, If Obama is relected the Senate will Likely confirm most any Obama pick.
I doubt it. The Senate's Dem majority is more likely to shrink than grow and the Reps have shown themselves more than capable of stopping anything and everything that happens in the Senate. Not gonna happen, even if, and that's a huge IF, Bammer gets re-upped.
Enough senators feel that "advise and consent" means determine if a perspective justice has the basic qualifications, If Obama is relected the Senate will Likely confirm most any Obama pick.
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I don't believe you're even close to plausible,noKnees.
Originally Posted by denton
Take comfort in this: The election is not far away. The Senate will block almost any Supreme Court appointment that Obama makes between now and then.


Thank You for this post as I will now sleep soundly tonight. Amazing how far left BOs agenda is, just sickening........
Originally Posted by derby_dude


Bush didn't pick them the people and the Republicans in Congress pick them. Remember Bush's first pick, Harriet Miers?


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Don't be ridiculous. Only in his dreams would he do that. And your nightmares. There is zero chance that he could pull that off, even if he tried.


There is no doubt in my mind that Harry Reid would try it, if he thought he could swing it. miles
Originally Posted by denton
Take comfort in this: The election is not far away. The Senate will block almost any Supreme Court appointment that Obama makes between now and then.



denton are you convinced we git rid of Obama?


I wish I was, but man he's built a war chest, and just sitting and waiting for the GOP to do his dirty work for him, whomever is left standing Romney or Newt it seems, he'll take up the fallen sword and continue slashing where their GOP counterpart left off. Plus he'll have free help from most of the MSM.


so you god fearin, Constitution lovin fellas spell it out for me


worst case scenario in my mind

O wins

he appoints 2 liberal gun hating lawyers like those named above or similar

Heller gets overturned, found not to be an individual right


economy gets worse and violence breaks out


POTUS says, "time to turn em in fellas, they're doing more harm than good, it's for the chirren, they're getting shot in the street" the law is on his side all the way to the Supremes (absent Diana Ross of course)


then whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
Within the same vain of thought here, look at Gov. Christies picks for judges.

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Gov. Chris Christie moved to diversify the state's all-white Supreme Court on Monday with two firsts: the nominations of an openly gay black man and a Korean-born prosecutor to fill two vacancies.

If confirmed, Bruce A. Harris would become New Jersey's first openly gay justice, and Phillip H. Kwon would become its first Asian representative and the first justice born outside the United States.

Christie, a Republican, said he had "extreme confidence" in the records and intellects of his nominees, neither of whom has been a judge.

"I felt strongly about making sure the court have diversity but first and foremost that the court have quality justices who make sure they take the court in a direction that is a responsible one for the future of our state and its people," Christie said at a news conference attended by the nominees and their families.
Originally Posted by isaac
Enough senators feel that "advise and consent" means determine if a perspective justice has the basic qualifications, If Obama is relected the Senate will Likely confirm most any Obama pick.
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I don't believe you're even close to plausible,noKnees.



Look at Kagen.. The Dems mustered 58 or 57 votes for her but they got plenty of Republicans to come along. Of course the vote for her isn't the real test. The real test was the cloture vote and that one wasn't even close.

Its true that the republicans might put up a fight before the election and certainly would in the lame duck session, but history shows few nominees voted down when the senate leadership is of the same party as the administration. After all if they loose just handful (McCain Snow and one more they are screwed.)

Originally Posted by BrentD
I doubt it. The Senate's Dem majority is more likely to shrink than grow and the Reps have shown themselves more than capable of stopping anything and everything that happens in the Senate.


really....tell it to Kagan and Sotomajor.
All before the 2010 midterms though,IIRC.
Originally Posted by derby_dude
Can we be sure that Romney or Newt would not pick someone just as bad?


Oh...like who?
In '08 many here, unsatisfied with the GOP candidates decided to sit on their hands to "teach America a lesson". I wonder how many will again refuse to vote and allow Obama to skew the SCOTUS?

Ernie
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I wonder how many will again refuse to vote and allow Obama to skew the SCOTUS?


We have several here at the Campfire that say they will. frown miles
I wonder how many will call Romney "Electable", alienate anyone who balks at the notion that he doesn't suck, and then blame others when he goes down in flames, again, like McCain, Dole, GHW Bush, Etc. November 2010 should help clarify some things, but it won't, again.

Ignore very recent history at our peril. The premise that Romney is somehow the only legitimate choice & is being pimped by so many would be funny, if it wasn't so sad. As is the flawed idea that a primary process that goes to the end is somehow bad. Far from it.
Originally Posted by isaac
All before the 2010 midterms though,IIRC.


the GOP had enough votes to filibuster before or after 2010. If, God forbid, Obama were reelected, one hopes the Republicans in the Senate would dig in and fight these nominees to the last trench....against a massive media and paid advertising onslaught. A simple majority won't work because you can't count on the girls from Maine not to roll over and bark for the left.
we're in a tight spot!
Question for those in the know-----------Has the SCOTUS in the past, changed rulings that were made by an earlier SCOTUS.
Meaning taken a ruling made by a past SC and said that's not correct it means this now?

Looking for a time period between rulings of lets say 20 years or so.
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