In light of the comments made about the issue - I wonder what is the answer to the following. What percentage of military men use prostitutes in their career - what percentage of male politicians have had sex with a prostitute - and to take my own job as a base-line - what percentage of male teachers have paid for sex in their lives.

Please - no comments about teachers not being able to afford them - that would be cruel.

Take your best guesses.

All I know is I finally have some respect for the Secret Service.

I would say 100% of the male population has used a prostitute.



Travis

I don't know what the big deal is. Those secret service guys have been protecting a prostitute for the last three years.

The worst part is most of the guys caught up in the scandal are registered Republicans using the free market to get a date but not completing the transaction-paying for the services contracted for. Not that much different from out elected officials!

Carry on!

And you would be ALMOST right.

Never have, never will.

Ed

+1

Why would a whore risk her reputation by having sex with a teacher.

I don't like it when you knock Mitt and Newt like that.

My question is just how dumb do you have to be to stick your tool into a Cartagena whore.

Never have to date.

Pfffftttt.......



Travis

Yeah if you coun't the guys that buy a woman dinner and show them a good time in order to get laid...

I guess we all pay for sex in one shape or form. I have never picked up a prostitute! I have paid for dinners, movies, gifts for various women that I have known at one point or another so I look at it that I am paying for sex.

Prostitutes pay me for services and lessons

There is NO such thing as free pootie poo. You'll pay for it, one way or the other.

Haha!
There it is...

What percentage in those jobs had sex with a prostitute, while drunk, on the job, and then refuse to pay?

Secret Service should be abolished. Murder is already a crime.

remember fellers, if you have coveted it in your mind it's the same as....

More accurate.

Not.

Not.

Unless you consider marriage to be nothing more than institutionalized prostitution, that is ...

I just feel sorry for the guys who showed up late for the party.

I have zero problems with guys using whores. I DO have a problem with someone who doesn't PAY for the service.

Is prostitution illegal in Columbia?

I dont think it is.

What's the big [bleep] deal?

Why is this worse than the GSA bullchit?

Why is it worse than bowing to a saudi king and apologizing to the world for America being America?



Why is it worse than flying all over the world setting a new record for first family vacationing on the taxpayer�s dime during an economic depression?



So, if prostitution isn�t illegal in Columbia�. Secret servicemen just shouldn�t take part because it�s not morally correct by a set of standards? Who�s standards?

What else shouldn�t government figures do? How about smoking?



It�s not illegal but� what kind of example does it set?

Drinking?




I'm very confused by the chosen one's outrage.

A free lunch, unfunded mandates and never paying sounds like Democrats. Republicans would have paid...

DF

I think most guys that have been in the Military has used these kind of services. Men will be boys..

ND, it's all about deflection. Ignore the man behind the curtain...

Ed

Exactly. Read the Bible for [bleep] sake.


Travis

It says MALES. Not drag queens.


Travis

I would like to know who here has not paid for sex?

If ya say no, you are a damned liar.

Wives aren't cheap to keep and it's worth every cent of it. Cheating can be MUCH more expensive, though...in many ways.

I will respectfully disagree.


Travis

Only if you call watching the movie "Highlander" first paying for it.

Were they using their own money? Were they off duty?

Yes and yes.


Travis

I like your style sir.


Travis

Did anyone ever tell you....YOU'RE A DUMBAZZ...DUMBAZZ??

Sex for the price of dinner and a movie.

Well, since you put it that way...

Ed

Point well taken. Some of us get married and pay, and pay and pay!

As long as the charges weren't made to a federal credit card, I see no issues. What they do on their own time with their own cash is their business.

Likely now, we will need a new set of laws of regulations to cover such events.

Next they're going to tell us they caught some sailors drinking..........

Now come on! We know that they were members of the GOP and not DEMs! All of you here accuse the DEMs of being socialist, If there were Socialist/DEMs they would be expecting the hookers to be part of an entitlement program and the Tax Payers to pay the bill. But....They must be members of the GOP because they refused to pay for the sex, indicating a free market mentality and thus all Republicans. Simple deduction!

Wrong!!!!!! The only other option was Hillary!

No wonder you've had to pay for it being a misogynist. The only woman that would have sex with you is a crack prostitute.

Try being nice. It's amazing what can happen.

Destined to become a campfire classic.

Never been married myself, RC, but I agree with your statement.

I've never "kept" my wife. We are a partnership. We pull together through thick and thin.

Take your own advice and don't stick your nose up at crack prostitutes.


travis

So you're saying they would have to gang bang Hillary??? WTF??? Noooooo...

Even if it was, who cares? Per diem is per diem is per diem.



Travis

She was spotted, getting ready for some action there.

I double dog respectfully disagree.


Travis

GOP members protecting Obama??

This story smells... hate to say it...fishy all the way around.

I still question have the question....prostitutes were for whom?

So says the guy with the 10mm 1911!

Never have, No need to nor would I. I'm something you are not a happily married man.

You know, being a misogynist, I bet you've had more than one affair with a man.

Adapt and overcome, that's my motto. That's why prison doesn't scare me.



Travis

Ah ha! I knew it!

Hey wageslave, I call BS to your story about where you were for two hours the other day. You sick bastid..

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Dont_know_whether_to_laugh_#Post6410119

Don't judge.


Travis

Hey! That thing is a tough mofo. Even the mag still functions.


Travis

Glad to hear it! Can you get a barrel for that thing with more chamber support? So you can shoot full-zoot 10mm stuff, Travis??

I'm pretty sure I can get 12-fitty with everything as is. Should be fine.

I think...



Travis

Ok, I paid for it?
Downtown.
Crack ho.
Then got free treatment at the clinic.

What weight, Travis? 135?(grin)

[bleep] misogynist...

Literally.


Travis

She had it coming......

180 baby.


Travis

They all do.



Travis

Despite that pistol being not-plastic, and hideous, it shoots quite well.


Travis

Misogynist?

Is that a mean dike gynecologist or something?

I think it's time for an oldie, but a goody. OJ gets sentenced to prison for waving a gun around or whatever, trying to get his foosball cards back. He gets to prison and gets his cell and it turns out his cell mate is Mike Tyson. So he goes in and Tyson is like, "okay OJ lemme tell you about prison. The only way a guy can get by in here is gay sex."

OJ ponders this and doesn't think it sounds as appealing as his former life banging actresses and cheeleaders or maybe Kato in a pinch.

Tyson says then, "you wanta be the husband or the wife in this relationship?"

OJ quickly says, "husband!".

Tyson says, "okay honey, now get over here and suck yo wife's big, black dick!"

I dunno?


Travis

LMFAO.

Good one Cole/Ethan.



Travis

I don't see it as an issue with whores.


I see it as a bunch of guys with low morale, and no respect for their jobs protecting Obama (can't blame them much for that last thing).

Bad behavior comes with job disatisfaction, they just don't care much about what they're doing. It's hard to be serious about protecting a POtuS like Obama.

So, yeah, it's Obama's fault, at least in part. You should respect the office and the man, (in their job), and if you can't do that, you'll get sloppy and do stupid things.

It's a disturbing lack of professionalism, if nothing else.

Ummmm..... I'm afraid that is not the case.


Travis

All this fuss over a 40 something dollar workout?

prostitution is the second oldest profession because it's so damned reasonable and cheap compared to the alternative.


bless those sporting girl's hearts!


otherwise a man is just left with a computer monitor and Target's intimate models.

The only reason this should be an issue is if the girls(uncleared personnel) were brought inside of a security exclusion area.

Other than that, it's just sensationalism by the media.

I guess if the SS lads were cornholing each other, all would be well from a news perspective.

Dam Shane, "SS Lads" sounds gayer than the part about the cornholing. They prolly cornhole in the secure area and then have the prostitutes when they're off duty. Bam Bam and Rahm probably supervise the secured activities.

Apparently Obama's schedule was in the room where the "ladies" were brought.

If they had not refused to pay-to-play, no one would have heard about this until a SS guy retired and wrote a book.

It's just some residual British influence in my vernacular.....grin

The Brits think a [bleep] is something you smoke.

Never have but agree. Lol! ^^^

Wonder if they learned about prostitution & out of marriage sex from being around presidents? Football coaches & other politicians don't seem to do too bad either.

I have never seen a hooker. I mean literally,never laid eyes on one! I grew up in the country, but have been through most of the U.S states, many big U.S and Canadian cities, and yet not one single hooker appeared! I had a brother and several good friends who drove long-haul,and I joined them several times for a chance to see some new country. These guys are always plagued by hookers,right? Nope, not when I'm there!

What's the opposite of a chick magnet? Whatever it is, I'm that!I scare off hookers with my mere presence in the general vicinity. Unbelievable...
Not that I've ever wanted to hire one,mind you, but I just wanted to see a couple, just out of curiosity ya know. Been through Toronto several times for concerts and what not, even down the streets know for prostitutes, everyone looked pretty ordinary to me. No big deal I guess, but seriously, WTF?

You don't know what to look for.


Travis

So does derby.



Travis

Concur. 100%.


Travis

Is possible. I just look for girls that look like the hookers you always see being brought through in cop shows. Never saw any of those yet.

I want to hear about how you have never made a dime, never held a job, never bought your wife dinner, or gifts. You have never done any of these things yet you are happily married because you are so [bleep] awesome... yeah that's it.

Most of them don't look like that.


Travis

News reported the hookers demanded $47 and that two agents wanted to split the bill and double up on her. She objected and wanted the money. OMG...$47 ?????WTFover????? The Entitlement culture is rampant in the administration. They actually think they should not have to pay a hooker.

Pretty close, but they got caught and with liberal democraps you're not guilty of anything unless caught and convicted or splashed over news caught in the act. Seems some pretty heavy penalties to be paid for by hired help (the mils and ss guys ) for arranging some nookie for the Big "O", but WTF Bill Clinton used them for the same, he just didn't sh*t on them like he did to Arkansas state troopers when he was the gov. there.. Magnum Man

Not the first two gentlemen to attempt that....



Travis

You would think that with a name like Secret Service, they would know how to be serviced secretly. I wonder how many of them had wives and girlfriends back here watching the news.

Really??? - you don't know at least ONE of the many decent and faithful/monogamous guys in this world? It may be bad for the economy, and you may not believe it, but some guys have never needed or cared to pay for sex.

I really don't see where there is a scandal here.

So some cheap ass SS agent brought some embarrassing, unwanted attention to himself and his co-workers because he wouldn't pay a bill. It may be stupid, but it's certainly not a scandal.

I have been married to the same woman for 39 years in a very healthy relationship and I can assure you that all men pay for sex "one way or another".

I would say you and I have ran in different circles.


Travis

Here's the real fallout:

And I would say that the facts'd really surprise you.

Agree. The number MIGHT be over 50%, but I would be very surprised if the number was over 75%.

I know it's always a riot to see a ship full of sailors and Marines go OCONUS. All the "I would never" types seem to cave awfully [bleep] fast.

Of course, they don't tell THOSE stories at Thanksgiving dinner either....



Travis

Maybe 100% of the people you know. Of the general populace I would guess more like 20%.

I guess there are a handful that never had the opportunity. Poor bastids.


Travis

It could be that the many men see it for what it is.

Never quite did understand the appeal of sticking it where hundreds or thousands of other guys had stuck it. Nor do I get outright paying some chick to pretend she likes you for an hour or so.


Never have, never will and that includes my military days when the opportunity was present.



Sweet, innocent country girls are my cup of tea.

An ideal encounter?


Travis

I prefer to be forgotten, not remembered- (George Costanza)


Travis

Plus bushels who've had to push 'em away.

I told one � a real sexy and tempting young thing � that I had better "stuff" at home. Wasn't even tempted. (But then, I've never worshiped my dick or done all my thinking with the contents of my scrotum � very liberating, that!)

I feel holier and more sanctimonius just having read this thread. Thanks guys.

Oh. I don't worship my dick either. I actually treat it quite poorly.


Travis

What separates the righteous from the unrighteous?

Opportunity...


Travis

Principles are unimaginable to people who have none.

How do you get that high horse up on that tall pedestal? Do you ride it up there or mount up after you lead it up? Do you need to stand on someone's back to get up high enough?

Yes. Just like your story.



Travis

I think you're wasting your "breath" Ken.

Yep

According to many - because I'm an atheist - I can't have a moral compass - and yet, I've never used a prostitute in my life - even though I think they should be legal. Why? Because I find the thought of it - repulsive. Paying for it - would ruin sex - at least for me.

Plus, even if I had wanted to - I usually had a girlfriend or wife - and my word to them means something.

When it comes to morality - who can figure it out? I sure can't.

If only the Secret Service were staffed with disciplined folks. Such a shame...



Travis

Seems so!

Which leads me to wonder �

Can a person who's utterly devoid of honor and principle respect an honorable person who adheres to principles? Is it possible?

Leads me to wonder as well.

If a person doesn't give a schit what a person thinks or believes, do they not give a schit what that person thinks or believes?

I should make a whole list of these profound thoughts and sell them as a book!


Travis

About that book - might be good to still keep your day job.

deflave,

You remind me of the the thief that was asked why he stole. "Everyone steals!", was his reply. Everyone that he hung out with, obviously.

Just because everyone you hang out with pays for prostitutes, just means you hang out with too many bottom feeders.

If assurance is true, would simply mean that the women pay as well.

I sincerely hope that you never imply to her that she's a prostitute in "one way or another!"

What makes you think I have a job?


Travis

Yes, but if a thief gets caught, he's not a good thief. So why listen to him at all?


Travis

The way I read it, Jesus would rather hang out with the thieves, prostitutes and "bottom feeders".
He was way more peeved at the church leaders.

Well, I was going to reserve the "WWJD" for my final debate. But you are correct.

Mary Magdalene was my kind of saint.


Travis

He hung out with those who repented their sins, not those who were hard of heart.

No. He loved/loves EVERYONE. The ones who "have repented" are just as good of sinners "after" as before. (most of them like to dream that they aren't, let alone admit it out loud, which is a HUGE part of the problem) The "unrepented" or "heart hardened" ones, to use your term, aren't faking their "holiness" and know they are fallen in most cases. They don't want to change because of what they see.
I'm not gonna get into all the reasons, but one is seeing all the hypocrites in the church. The good news is, it's all covered.
Whew, sunday school is over.....
Back to the Secret Service Prostitute Scandal.

Ummm...Prostitutes are some of the nicest people you could ever meet?


Travis

I think considering the stress level of the Secret Service and their current duties, all this should have been paid for by a GSA as a bonus....

Well, that ain't been my experience, but that just be because I've only encountered with 'em when I'm practicing my profession, rather than when they're practicing theirs...

Doc, that's cause 'flave don't do the english speaking chickees,
he really has no idea what their saying and he's not there to talk to them... just my .02.

Boooooring....

Go drink some more martinis and get back to me.


Travis

Listen to them? And people call me stupid...


Travis

I couldnt help but laugh when I heard on the news this morning that "the secret service was sending investigators to talk to the girls".

"so now Miss, I need you to show me EXACTLY what you did...."

Damn straight they're boring! But when I'm practicing my profession, martinis are not an option.
Fortunately, I'm not on call after work tonight, so I foresee a couple of stiff ones in the very near future (stiff martinis, that is, although as it happens I am luckier than a dog with two d!cks lately... ).

Bet they were flooded with volunteers to go......

TFF. First time in my life I would like to be IA...



Travis

You're gonna do WHAT with two stiff dicks?


Travis

I'd have had two hands and my c@ck in the air...

I'm out,
Travis

Nonononono, dood! Just one... twice!