and why are they trying to outlaw them in Kalifornia ?
I see where it is a magazine release that you have to have a small pointy object to operate , but why not use the reguler mag release. What am I missing here ?


Mike

Cal's AWB has a loophole that allows banned AR's to be legal with "bullet button" mag releases.

Bullet Buttons are just one device we use to alter Semi auto firearms to meet CA's Tyranical firearms laws, this bill will effectivley ban repeating rifles in CA, or start an armed insurection.

Fight it with us

http://www.calguns.net/249/

Are you saying that the bill will effectivly ban ANY repeating rifle ?


Mike

ANY rifle with a removable magazine would be banned. Bolt action, Mini 14's, etc. It will make ownership illegal, with no grandfather clause. You would not be compensated for turning in the firearms.

Stop SB249

That's about it. Here is the official bill, writtten by a rabid anti-gunner, an extremely left wing Assemblyman named Yee.

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IMPORTANT UPDATE: On August 7 SB 249 was amended

to include, among other things, the following definition of a detachable magazine as it relates to assault weapons:



SB 249, as amended, Yee. Firearms: assault weapon conversion kits. Assault weapons.



Existing law defines a firearm as an assault weapon, in part, based upon whether it has a detachable magazine. This bill would define "detachable magazine" for this purpose to mean any ammunition feeding device that can be removed from the firearm without disassembly of the firearm action, and to include a magazine that may be detached from the firearm by depressing a button on the firearm either with the finger or by use of a tool or a bullet. The bill would declare that these amendments are declaratory of existing law, would direct the Attorney General to adopt regulations, and would make these amendments operative July 1, 2013.



The Appropriations Committee hearing will focus on whether there is a substantial expenditure of state money or a substantial loss of revenue to the state if SB 249 is passed. SB 249 could shut down the sale of hundreds of thousands of semi-automatic firearms in California and result in the closure of firearms businesses, loss of jobs, and loss of tax revenue. This equates to a loss of millions to the state.



The author of SB 249 is attempting to make it illegal to sell and or possess commonly used semi-automatic firearms that, for example, have features such as a flash suppressor or a pistol grip that protrudes beneath the action. There are hundreds of thousands of California residents who legally own semi-automatic firearms equipped with bullet buttons who will be negatively impacted by SB 249. SB 249 does not allow for legal possession of firearms that have bullet buttons installed in compliance with current DOJ regulations.

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The object of the communistnazis of the Calif. Legislature is to eventually ban ALL firearms in Calif., for the worker peasants.

L.W.(Life Member, Calif. Rifle and Pistol Assoc.)

I feel sorry for you guys that live in the chit hole.

Best thing you can do is give it back to Mexico.

My Remington 788 bolt, in .308 Win, has a detachable magazine that is released with a button. It will be banned.

Those guy sdown there are NUTZ! I feel sorry for you all as well. A legal challenge would likely be succcessful, but costly and that they even think of stuff like this, it is bad in a big way.

So is this where we tell them to come and try to take them or is this another situation where, we roll over because it isn't all of our guns?

Best thing you can do is help us fight this.

Before we say Molon labe, I see demonstrations and sit-ins. If people who enjoy our constitutional freedoms picked a day, I can picture a sit in at every government office in the state. From capitols to city halls, a day of peaceful protest against government tyranny. No guns. No violence. If a man can take his clothes off to the TSA in protest, we have every right to a sit in. I'd take a vacation day to do that.

The day they come to take my guns from me here will be the day I die.
I will not give them up peacefully.
I have said for a long time that I will be a victim of our government before I am a victim of any gang banger and it looks as if it will be soon

I would possibly take the time to travle down and do a sit in with my brothers and sisters in Calif.

I was born there and lived there until I had enough of it all and left in '93.

We can use all the help we can get to defeat this bill. If we don't beat it here, yall can rest assured it will spread.

Think I know the answer but has the NRA stepped up?

Plinker,

not the way I read the bill. as lonewolf posted, theis change is to close the existing "loophole" that allows rifles to have bullet releases instead of finger operated releases , on assault rifles.

I do not read it to apply to non-semiautomatic rifles, do you?

Sycamore

Why is that better? Why would that be okay?

It's not a question of what is better, it is a question of understanding what the proposed law actually says.

Sycamore

...is chris cox in the forums yet?
I would have thought the nra would be all over this issue

If this bill passes some companies are going to make lots of money converting existing guns to be belt feed. Here's an example of an AR-15. It just needs a couple of screws added to prevent an easy conversion back to magazine feed. What will be interesting to see will be a belt fed bolt action rifle.

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=_UIyKgSUQSM[/video]

Give it back? They already took it back when the population of Mexico slithered in.

This is incorrect. SB 249 only covers semiautomatic firearms already regulated as assault weapons. Bolt actions, semiautomatics such as the Ruger Mini Thirty and 14 are not covered.

Belt fed is illegal in California if the belt contains more than 10 cartridges. Then it would be considered a high capacity magazine. Using a high capacity magazine on a bullet buttoned rifle, or a rifle with a hand grip or any other "evil feature" makes it an assault weapon and a felony. You may not have two (or more) evil features on a semiautomatic rifle, if you have an AR-15 derivative the pistol grip is one, a high capacity magazine is another, a detachable magazine is one, a flash hider, grenade launcher, forward pistol grip, collapsing stock are the others. The bullet button has been adjudged to render the magazine non-detachable because it requires a tool to remove the magazine. Colt sells California compliant models with the bullet button installed and a 9 round magazine (in case there is a round in the chamber the total capacity of the rifle is 10 rounds or less).

Guys, read this section again and tell me where it distinguishes between semi-auto and bolt...

No matter, the Valkyrie Armament conversion is $3600 and the full rifle is $4600. The belt is a modified M27 disintegrating at $35 per 100.

From everything I have read they changed the bill from assault rifles to just say rifles that have detachable mags.. I could be wrong but there is no mention about assault any thing. this is the liberal sneaky bastered way of getting what they want and next it will be the hand guns because what kills more people rifles or hand guns and then it will be knifes. it will never stop

AB249 Amends Section 30515 of the California Penal Code. Section 30515 deals with Assault Weapons or those identified by features, and exempts some models of Olympic target pistols.

Here is a link to the current text of PC Section 30515:

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/30515.html

Here is a link to section 30510 mentioned in Section 30515:

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/30510.html

Be advised that California recently renumbered the Penal Code so you may find references to other section numbers.

While the bill is being amended continually, thus far it doesn't apply to firearms not defined in law as an Assault Weapon, because that is what Section 30515 refers to.

Here's where, is my guess

You're 100% correct. The communistnazis never, ever, disengage.

Inch by inch by inch by inch by inch ..........................

L.W.

That's not how I read it.
It says any firearm that has a detachable magazine.
That would be the new Ruger American
all 10/22's
and other bolt actions that have a "box" magazine.

Just another push to abolish legal guns.
And make all citizens criminals.