I know exactly how I came off from my last few post, I'm really not a bad guy, for the most part. There are very few things in life that get me going in a negative way like the Mormon community has been able to. Again, sorry for being so insensitive to those of you who are Mormon or share their beliefs.
Disclaimer here: I am inactive LDS (the word that is used in the church to describe someone who does not attend.) I don't drink, smoke or screw around on my wife. I just don't attend church anymore (well, maybe once or twice a year.) My wonderful wife and children are all very active.
The problem with most LDS folk, IMHO, especially those along the Wasatch front, is that they do not engage others outside their narrow sectarian circle---unless it is to proseletyze them. And then, if you're not interested in converting, the over-tures of friendship end. So the very strong impression is left that they care about others only insofar as they have utility as potential converts, which is not a very genuine sort of caring, if you ask me. A related problem is that far, far too many LDS folk are just uncomfortable associating with "gentiles", which is unfortunate, because it causes resentment in good people who feel they are being rejected simply because they choose not to believe in the LDS faith. Once again, the impression is reinforced that people only have utility if they are a potential convert and if they are not, they are somehow morally deficient or "unworthy". That is a very shallow and highly offensive mindset to have toward a neighbor or supposed friend.
My favorite LDS folk are the ones who could are less about your faith (or lack thereof) and can engage you at a party or other event and discuss worldy events while you are sipping alcohol and they could care less, or who can go on a fishing or hunting trip with you and not care if you imbibe or smoke (not sayin they have to join in). Too many LDS folk are so rigid on things like alcohol and cigarettes---as if they are moral vices (which they are not). People who find out I am LDS (even though I don't go to church) marvel at what they call my "normalcy" because their experiences with active LDS folk have been somewhat off-putting. I have had many people ask me why I am not like other LDS people and they mean it in a good way. They respect that I don't smoke or drink or party of cheat on my wife, but at the same time that I don't wear it on my sleeve or make it the basis of deciding who I will or will not be friends with.
Not sayin' I am anything but a loser, just my comments on JCubs observations.
Jordan