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Posted By: OrangeOkie Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
'Revenge porn' victims press for new laws

PUBLISHED: NOVEMBER 15, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) � Annmarie Chiarini's long-distance boyfriend was goading her to pose nude. The pictures would be for his eyes only, Chiarini recalls him saying, because she was so beautiful and because he missed her so much. He promised, she said, they would be stored on a compact disc and hidden in his drawer.

Chiarini believed him � until they broke up and the CD was auctioned on eBay with a link emailed to her friends and family. Copies were later mailed to her son's Catholic school kindergarten teacher and the department head at the college where Chiarini taught English. The images eventually wound up on a pornographic video-sharing site, earning 4,000 views in less than two weeks.

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In this Oct. 30, 2013 photo, anti-revenge porn advocate Annmarie Chiarini poses in her home in Towson, Md.
Chiarini got behind the cause after an ex-boyfriend took to
the Internet to post nude images that she shared with him
privately over the course of their relationship. After
California and New Jersey passed laws outlawing revenge porn,
an increasing number of states, including Maryland, Wisconsin
and New York, are considering whether to make it illegal to
post any sexually explicit image online without that person�s
permission. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)




"I was horrified," said the 42-year-old single mom living in Towson, Md. "The night he said he was going to do it, I called the police in an absolute panic and tried to explain what was going on. I said, 'He's threatening to put these pictures of me on an eBay auction,' and they (said), 'So?' "

It's called "revenge porn," and it's legal in every state but California and New Jersey. A person shares a sexually explicit photo or video with a partner, only to see those images pop up online months or even years later � typically after a bad breakup. The images are often tied to the person's name, address and phone number. And in a particularly disturbing twist, some of the sites appear to be running side businesses offering "reputation protection services": Dump $500 into a PayPal account and maybe they will take down your photo.

An increasing number of states, including Maryland, Wisconsin and New York, are considering whether to make it illegal to post any sexually explicit image online without that person's permission. But groups like the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation say they worry such proposals run afoul of the First Amendment.

"We generally don't think that finding more ways to put people in prison for speech is a good thing," said Adi Kamdar, an activist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "A lot of times, these laws � if they aren't narrowly focused enough � they can be interpreted too broadly."

Mary Anne Franks, a law professor at the University of Miami who is helping states draft revenge porn laws, counters that sharing a nude picture with another person implies limited consent similar to other business transactions.

"If you give your credit card to a waiter, you aren't giving him permission to buy a yacht," Franks said.

The precise scope of the problem is unclear because many victims never come forward or are frequently turned away by the police. Two of the most popular revenge sites have gone dark in recent years amid hacking allegations and a class-action lawsuit. But advocates estimate there are dozens of other sites that continue to post pornographic images without that person's consent.

Law enforcement officials have been stumped on how to respond. Website operators aren't liable for content provided by others, unless the images are child pornography. And anti-harassment and cyberstalking laws don't apply unless the ex-partner threatens the victim or attempts repeated contact.

Chiarini says she remembers one police officer thumbing through a black book at his desk before finally shrugging his shoulders and telling her no crime had been committed.

Copyright protections, too, wouldn't help because she wasn't the one who took the photos. And even if she had, victim advocates say, most revenge sites routinely ignore "take-down" infringement complaints, knowing that the victims can't go to the expense of pursuing further legal action.

Suing for civil damages is another option, but that, too, means hefty legal bills and the risk of provoking an unstable ex-partner.

Maryland Delegate Jon Cardin, who is running for the Democratic nomination to become state attorney general, is among the latest of several state legislators to propose a new revenge porn law. His proposal would make it a felony to intentionally distribute sexually explicit digital images of another person without consent, punishable by up to five years in jail and a $25,000 fine.

The bill would exclude images deemed to have "public importance" � an exemption carved out in response to critics who say such laws would criminalize journalists who publish explicit photos. The legislation also wouldn't hold liable anyone who links to a revenge posting.

Still absent from Cardin's list of vocal supporters is the ACLU. Its California office worked this fall to dilute similar legislation. That bill, signed last month by Gov. Jerry Brown, makes revenge porn a misdemeanor but contains a big loophole: It applies only to images captured by the partner, exempting self-portraits.

Lee Rowland, an ACLU staff attorney in New York, says self-portraits create a more complex question on the expectation of privacy because the subject shared the image willingly.

"You, I think, could pretty easily understand how a law like that could in five minutes turn an entire class of high school seniors into felons," said Rowland.

Holly Jacobs, a Florida woman who founded EndRevengePorn.com after her own self-shots wound up online � along with her name, where she worked and details on her Ph.D program � says attempts to exempt "selfies" from the law shows that most people still "blame the victim." She estimates that 80 percent of the 1,000 victims of revenge porn who have contacted her in the past year took the images themselves.

Rowland and Kamdar say they are sympathetic to victims like Jacobs and Chiarini. And there seems to be a question as to how far groups like the ACLU and the Electronic Frontier Foundation will go to fight revenge porn legislation; both acknowledged their groups haven't devoted the resources yet to carving out an official position or ensuring its involvement in the drafting of every new state proposal.

"We understand that revenge porn is destructive and that there are real victims from it and that to some extent existing laws either don't exist or aren't being enforced to address that problem," said Rowland.

But she added: "I don't think we've been convinced that criminal laws � new nonviolent crimes � are necessary or necessarily effective in dealing with revenge porn."

As for Chiarini, she got lucky. Ebay and the video-sharing site that published her photos agreed to take them down immediately. Her son's school didn't kick out the family, although it insisted on keeping the disc of nude photos in a file. And Chiarini never lost her job. Chiarini has since been working with Jacobs' Cyber Civil Rights Initiative, an advocacy group that targets online harassment issues, to raise awareness and help other victims.

"I hit my low, now it's time to fight back," said Chiarini. "I don't want to feel that way ever again."
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
A real good "modern" argument for abstinence before marriage. Not to mention common sense after.
God had it right the first time.
Posted By: DaveR Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
These chicks are stupid. You know, I understand the draw to it if you're in a long distance relationship I suppose, or as a type of x-rated flirting. But how much trouble is it to take a pic that doesn't show your face? If that's not good enough for the dude, tell him to kick rocks! Grow a pair of tits and find a new boyfriend who understands your concerns.

I'm tired of these professional victims. The do something they know they shouldn't do, yet do it anyway because they were "coerced", and then when the worst happens, they want to play the "victim" card.

Now if a dude is taking covert pics of an unsuspecting woman, then nail his azz.

I don't agree with the practice, but jesus h. christ on a crutch, do we not have enough freakin' laws?

You don't want your coochie, face, and saggy boobs broadcast all over the internet, it's easy, don't take pictures of them and send them to "boyfriends".

Posted By: Notropis Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
A woman wants a law passed because she was incredibly stupid. Something is terribly wrong here with the concept of trying to protect people from the consequences of their very stupid actions.

Play stupid games, get stupid prizes.
Posted By: 338Rem Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
This means nothing without pics! Let us judge for our selves after we see the pics, whether it is art or porn.
Posted By: Huntz Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Any links to the Pics??? smirk
Posted By: deflave Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
I'm not above pullin' a Favre. Maybe I can sue somebody?



Travis
Posted By: Toddly Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
She was stupid, but he needs a royal ass kicking.
Posted By: Bullcamp82834 Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
My idea of "revenge porn" is taking naked pictures of myself and sending them to the woman I broke up with.
You can't get much nastier than that. LOL

If I can't break her heart I can sure enough make her sick.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm not above pullin' a Favre...

Travis

New screen name....

DeFavre
Posted By: gbp Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
hate to say this but if that's her picture she should not be too worried about it making the rounds here
Posted By: eyeball Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Maybe that's why she left? grin
Posted By: deflave Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Originally Posted by gbp
hate to say this but if that's her picture she should not be too worried about it making the rounds here


Why's that?



Travis
Posted By: ironbender Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by gbp
hate to say this but if that's her picture she should not be too worried about it making the rounds here


Why's that?



Travis


She does not posses a fridge nor a porch?
Posted By: deflave Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Kinday picky 'round here.

I like DeFavre.



Travis
Posted By: ironbender Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Figures......
Posted By: gbp Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by gbp
hate to say this but if that's her picture she should not be too worried about it making the rounds here


Why's that?



Travis


My standards must be a little higher
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
pics of a skank went viral? Guess porn freaks really are freaks.
Posted By: deflave Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Originally Posted by gbp

My standards must be a little higher


Be careful with that. That's how virgins are made.



Travis
Posted By: gbp Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
lafin
i'll leave that one for you
Posted By: ironbender Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
'flave only has so much time.
Posted By: gbp Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
are you saying she has to take a number?
Posted By: wageslave Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Those that think she is not humpable, must be in love with their palm.


P.S. or can't turn out a light.
Posted By: gbp Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
[video:youtube]watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw[/video]
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
The guy that did it is ruining it for the rest of us. He needs his head kicked in.

Got to love a chick that lets you snap some pics of the box.
Posted By: rte Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
What do you expect,she's from Maryland.

After California and New Jersey passed laws outlawing revenge porn,
an increasing number of states, including Maryland, Wisconsin
and New York.


All the states that feel they need some sort of law,are all liberal states that have stupid,easy,slutty women. LOL
Posted By: slumlord Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
42 y.o.

GAWD!!!! Who cares??? Saggy ole c-section scarred belly gunt



The 19 y.o. Ones are way better, more kinky too. By a magnitude of 10


Crap just go to haze her dot com Or dorm dare laugh

Lil tip from your uncle slummy
Posted By: slumlord Re: Revenge Porn - 11/15/13
Originally Posted by ironbender
'flave only has so much time.
on his hands
Posted By: SCRUBS Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Yep let`s pass more laws to protect these poor victims from their own stupidity...
Posted By: ironbender Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by slumlord

The 19 y.o. Ones are way better, more kinky too. By a magnitude of 10


So, 100X more? smile
Posted By: Scott_Thornley Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Well, if you really want to be picky, 10 orders of magnitude would be 10,000,000,000x kinkier.

That's a LOT more kinky...
Posted By: rem141r Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
she is an extremely stupid and gullible women. and she looks like she has a goats eyeball on a string around her neck.
Posted By: EdM Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
The guy is a [bleep]' jerk plain and simple.
Posted By: 700LH Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Didn't read this thread but

Play stupid games,
Win stupid prizes,

Fits perfectly
Posted By: Higginez Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
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That's a dude. Period.
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
...they broke up and the CD was auctioned on eBay with a link emailed to her friends and family.


She's just pissed that it only brought $1.49.

Seriously, stupid should hurt. If you're stupid enough to go distributing pornographic pictures of yourself then you have no right to complain when they show up on the internet.
Posted By: EdM Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
I knew of a guy in college that took pictures of his "dates" in the raw as they dosed. He was slime in my mind as is this guy. Could be anyone's daughter and I am more than thankful to have three sons. Yeah, blame it all on the Sheila.
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by EdM
I knew of a guy in college that took pictures of his "dates" in the raw as they dosed. He was slime in my mind as is this guy. Could be anyone's daughter and I am more than thankful to have three sons. Yeah, blame it all on the Sheila.


This woman took pictures of herself then sent them to the guy, it's her own doing by her own hand. Nobody said the guy isn't slime, but "the Sheila" isn't a victim, she's just stupid.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Oh my bad, she herself took the pics????

Well ok then that changes the dynamic lmao- shes still catfish faced lookin skank with a goat eyeball necklace .....TFF!!!

Here yo go, you can thank me later

Naughtyselfpics dot com
Posted By: EdM Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by EdM
I knew of a guy in college that took pictures of his "dates" in the raw as they dosed. He was slime in my mind as is this guy. Could be anyone's daughter and I am more than thankful to have three sons. Yeah, blame it all on the Sheila.


This woman took pictures of herself then sent them to the guy, it's her own doing by her own hand. Nobody said the guy isn't slime, but "the Sheila" isn't a victim, she's just stupid.


Hoping you have son's so there is one cock per as opposed to the many a fine daughter WILL bring. smile
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
The guy is a [bleep] [bleep] and the woman is apparently guilty of TRUSTING a man that she was in a relationship with.

Why is she STUPID for trusting a man she is in a relationship with?

Why the [bleep] would a guy post pictures after a breakup? Because he is a [bleep], period.

If something is over, it's over. Not sure why the hell people feel that 'revenge' is the order of the day after a failed relationship.

Posted By: ringworm Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Im not sure if anyone has touched on this yet, but, it should be said...
hit it.
Nothing I like more than splashing around in a big, Janet Reno looking, saggy Ass cry baby.
42 year old women should feel proud if they look good enouch to get a man up.
Most 40+ year old women could get a death row prisoner hard.
Posted By: EdM Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by Steelhead
The guy is a [bleep] [bleep] and the woman is apparently guilty of TRUSTING a man that she was in a relationship with.

Why is she STUPID for trusting a man she is in a relationship with?

Why the [bleep] would a guy post pictures after a breakup? Because he is a [bleep], period.

If something is over, it's over. Not sure why the hell people feel that 'revenge' is the order of the day after a failed relationship.



Pleased to see one of a view here with whom I have respect. I'd go twist the head off of someone that did this [bleep]. I'd be a nut case if I was fortunate to have a daughter so treated.
Posted By: deflave Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by Steelhead
The guy is a [bleep] [bleep] and the woman is apparently guilty of TRUSTING a man that she was in a relationship with.

Why is she STUPID for trusting a man she is in a relationship with?

Why the [bleep] would a guy post pictures after a breakup? Because he is a [bleep], period.

If something is over, it's over. Not sure why the hell people feel that 'revenge' is the order of the day after a failed relationship.



Pleased to see one of a view here with whom I have respect. I'd go twist the head off of someone that did this [bleep]. I'd be a nut case if I was fortunate to have a daughter so treated.


Most people today (and especially on the Hunter's Campfire) don't understand that probably 3 out of 5 women today, have done exactly what this woman has done.

It is the modern day equivalent of writing something dirty in a letter.


Travis
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
It's easy to sit back and say, at 40 years old this woman should have known better, but I don't know anything about her relationship. She obviously trusted him. That was obviously a mistake.

The fella needs his azz whooped. Severely.

Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
There are better pics of her out there.

I fully agree that the guy is a scumbag. He had nothing to gain but hurt someone badly.

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Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
I'm with Steelhead about 90% on this one. The guy post posting the pics needs a date with four guys each holding a tube sock full of D cells.

But any woman who transmits nude pics of herself via the web is a few bricks shy of a full load. Anyone with half a brain knows that once media is transmitted, it is out there for ever. And you no longer have any control over its disposition.

Unless, of course, the lady in question is a professional hooker, then it's just good business.


Listen to the "Bob and Tom Show".
Admit Nothing.
Do not write anything down.
Deny, Deny, Deny!

And for God's sake, do not take any nude photos.
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by deflave

Most people today (and especially on the Hunter's Campfire) don't understand that probably 3 out of 5 women today, have done exactly what this woman has done.

It is the modern day equivalent of writing something dirty in a letter.


Travis


Three out of five on the 24 fire are near computer illiterate! grin
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Originally Posted by deflave

Most people today (and especially on the Hunter's Campfire) don't understand that probably 3 out of 5 women today, have done exactly what this woman has done.

It is the modern day equivalent of writing something dirty in a letter.


Travis


Three out of five on the 24 fire are near computer illiterate! grin


We should probably keep in mind that a person with an IQ of 100 is not really all that bright.

And half the population is stupider than that. Some much more so!
Posted By: 280shooter Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
This ahole is going to screw it up for so many men. He is scum, by the way.
Posted By: Calvin Re: Revenge Porn - 11/16/13
Anybody who posts naked pictures of anybody else without consent, should be held liable and criminally responsible.

Only a true lowlife, with zero morals would do that.
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