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Wife and I decided to select cut some or our old growth virgin prime timber.

Rotten tooth lazy azz hillbillies seem to think we're cutting firewood free for the taking and they can come onto the landings and just take it.

My super quiet CO2 pellet gun will be getting a workout on various windshields in the area if it continues.

All they had to do was ask me for help and I would be glad to give them some.
As I've always said, West Virginians may well be hillbillies, but they are YANKEE hillbillies.
bullshit they're yankees, they're southern to the core. The "mason dixon" line is about 200miles too far south.
They are Yankees, period. I don't care about where the Mason Dixon line is.

Abundance of DNA challenged residents in your area.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Wife and I decided to select cut some or our old growth virgin prime timber.

Rotten tooth lazy azz hillbillies seem to think we're cutting firewood free for the taking and they can come onto the landings and just take it.

My super quiet CO2 pellet gun will be getting a workout on various windshields in the area if it continues.

All they had to do was ask me for help and I would be glad to give them some.


A few trail cams could get them 'boys squared away and keep YOU out of trouble. laugh
West Virgina formed by breaking away from Virginia and joining the Union. That makes them Yankees.
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you could move farther north and east, say around DC


you'd be missing those hillwilliams pretty quick I reckon


hope you catch the bastids, hate thieves of all races and origins.
Most of Scott's relatives look like these guys. A southern dentist is six feet of string and a doorknob or a pair of pliers.


Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
you could move farther north and east, say around DC
you'd be missing those hillwilliams pretty quick I reckon

hope you catch the bastids, hate thieves of all races and origins.


Lived in the DC metro area for many years.

Too much traffic and too many n!!gers.
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Guy in the back looks like he was playing with his poo poo
tweekers and theives are about everywhere...WVa is no different...

only one way to deal with those types...and it isn't overly legal.....
Originally Posted by Seafire
theives are about everywhere...WVa is no different...



Regular brain trust in my area. My neighbor served 28 years for murder and was out on parole. US Marshals just got done tearing up the hills on a parole violation looking for him.

Stoopid azz liked to steal riding mowers and then go beer drinking on them.
Crime of the century. grin

He must like prison food.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
....YANKEE hillbillies.


That's almost as bad a combination as toothless whores.......
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Steelhead
....YANKEE hillbillies.


That's almost as bad a combination as toothless whores.......


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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Seafire
theives are about everywhere...WVa is no different...



Regular brain trust in my area. My neighbor served 28 years for murder and was out on parole. US Marshals just got done tearing up the hills on a parole violation looking for him.

Stoopid azz liked to steal riding mowers and then go beer drinking on them.
Crime of the century. grin

He must like prison food.


On a serious note, after 3 decades in prison, I'd guess that prison is the only comfort zone many of them will ever have.
Steelhead, wasn't your dad a yankee from New York??? Honestly though, you have got to like some yankees?? No??
He likes Yankee puzzy thats for sure.
Originally Posted by Bristoe


On a serious note, after 3 decades in prison, I'd guess that prison is the only comfort zone many of them will ever have.


That may be up for debate. The whole damn family graduated from Moundsville.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Penitentiary

In the top ten of the most violent pens in the country.

Reputed to be haunted.
You should work on your assimilation techniques. You obviously don't fit in very well in your neighborhood. Try to become one with the neighbors...................d:^)
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Seafire
theives are about everywhere...WVa is no different...



Regular brain trust in my area. My neighbor served 28 years for murder and was out on parole. US Marshals just got done tearing up the hills on a parole violation looking for him.

Stoopid azz liked to steal riding mowers and then go beer drinking on them.
Crime of the century. grin

He must like prison food.


just about anywhere in WVa is still better than Josephine County Oregon...where I live...

one of my cousin's sons, got busted for burglary and drug use...got told to join the Army or get locked up...he spent two or three tours in the sand box, got wounded and ended meeting and getting married to a female Army doctor, who is drop dead gorgeous....she is now stationed at Tripler in Hawaii...

there is no justice in the world some days...

although he ended up getting decorated a couple of times with a medal or two...
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Wife and I decided to select cut some or our old growth virgin prime timber.

Rotten tooth lazy azz hillbillies seem to think we're cutting firewood free for the taking and they can come onto the landings and just take it.

My super quiet CO2 pellet gun will be getting a workout on various windshields in the area if it continues.

All they had to do was ask me for help and I would be glad to give them some.


Locally, a number eight safety det seems to work when one has sharefarmers.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
As I've always said, West Virginians may well be hillbillies, but they are YANKEE hillbillies.

Yep... Kentucky is a northern state too but they are embarrassed by that fact.
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Where did you find NWA & SAC's grade school pics?
I feel for you , bro.

When I drop an aspen or birch in winter or early spring down on the home spread on the Kenai, the fuggin moose may come running and claim it for a day or two until they have trimmed the good stuff off.... but I do get to burn the rest.
Now you know why I hate white people...(and there ain't NO Yankees in any thing with Vir-[bleep]-Gina in its name! smile
Them boys looks the same as some Texas trash. Only difference is, most of the Texas trash spend $10,000 on weapons instead of teeth, and they know every thing there is to know about the Second Amendment.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
you could move farther north and east, say around DC
you'd be missing those hillwilliams pretty quick I reckon

hope you catch the bastids, hate thieves of all races and origins.


Lived in the DC metro area for many years.

Too much traffic and too many n!!gers.


Them Bastids are Yankees too. Damned a Yankee. They gave us Obammy.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Where did you find NWA & SAC's grade school pics?


Ha. TFF, but I figure nwa was little lord F, and sac was a union hack wanna be.
Pellet guns don't do windshields soft lead pellet flattens out and no penetration. Regular old BB works wonders. You could bore several holes in the smaller pieces fill with FFF Goex and plug that way you will get the guilty party for sure.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Wife and I decided to select cut some or our old growth virgin prime timber.

Rotten tooth lazy azz hillbillies seem to think we're cutting firewood free for the taking and they can come onto the landings and just take it.

My super quiet CO2 pellet gun will be getting a workout on various windshields in the area if it continues.

All they had to do was ask me for help and I would be glad to give them some.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
West Virgina formed by breaking away from Virginia and joining the Union. That makes them Yankees.

interesting, my good friend lives in w virginia, family there since the 1700's. His great uncle was a confederate general.
Originally Posted by 257Deland
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Guy in the back looks like he was playing with his poo poo


It's called "finger painting" if the walls are close.
Originally Posted by RoninPhx
Originally Posted by Steelhead
West Virgina formed by breaking away from Virginia and joining the Union. That makes them Yankees.

interesting, my good friend lives in w virginia, family there since the 1700's. His great uncle was a confederate general.


Boy...isn't your friend going to be embarrassed when he finds out that they were on the wrong side. blush



And Ronin, there was no disrespect meant to the Grey.
Originally Posted by acooper1983
bullshit they're yankees, they're southern to the core. The "mason dixon" line is about 200miles too far south.


That's not quite true. WVians are nether fish nor fowl. They are their own culture. The location of the Mason-Dixon line is irrelevant.

I think I recognize those guys as the neighbor kids.
Originally Posted by RoninPhx
Originally Posted by Steelhead
West Virgina formed by breaking away from Virginia and joining the Union. That makes them Yankees.

interesting, my good friend lives in w virginia, family there since the 1700's. His great uncle was a confederate general.


West Vigina joined the union in 63, they were a break off part, you know the west labia.

There were guys from NY that fought on the CSA side, guess that makes NY a southern state, following your logic?
Originally Posted by Steelhead


There were guys from NY that fought on the CSA side, guess that makes NY a southern state, following your logic?


Stupid logic on your part. The reverse was true amongst many southerners on the state as well as the family level.

Stupid southerners wanted to keep their n!!gers which is akin to adopting a rabid dog.
There is nothing wrong with West Virginia. Abe wanted it and Abe made it. Since Abe was a Republican anything that happens in the entire state is fine either way. All of you should STFU and stop complaining about the state that is a monument to the Republican control.
I sure do like it here. Oh, and WV changed sides so many times during the war who knows what it truly was. I think Harpers-ferry was over run four or five times by both sides.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR

Stupid southerners wanted to keep their n!!gers which is akin to adopting a rabid dog.

Ain't that the fugging truth! laugh
still drinking the kool Aid, that the war of northern aggression was about slaves? laugh
That picture reminds me of my late buggy Vic, and how he said the tooth brush was invented in Livingston Parish, Louisiana. He said it if had been invented anywhere else, it would be called a TEETH brush!
Originally Posted by 284LUVR


Stupid southerners wanted to keep their n!!gers which is akin to adopting a rabid dog.


If they hadn't been so phookin lazy and worked their own fields instead of importing all that cheap labor this country wouldn't be in 10% of the mess it's in today.



That is too good to let lay, I shall steal that.

Thank you.
Are you folks aware that only 4% of southerners owned slaves compared to a much higher percentage in the north?

Are you folks aware that there are still "all white" and "all black" schools in the north because of the lack of participation in integration efforts such as busing.

Some of you poor folks are drinking the media koolaid for sure
these discussions never end well, do they? smile Even the damn ignorant foreigners feel a need to participate. smile
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
still drinking the kool Aid, that the war of northern aggression was about slaves? laugh


This^^^ The average Johnny Reb didn't own slaves. He may not have even owned shoes.

The war was about a Federal Govt that had already gotten power hungry and wasn't about to allow a large portion of it's agricultural production to slip away.
When I was younger, I took major offense at these types of discussions.

Now, I just hang my head in disgust.

W.Va., East Ky., western Va., southern Ohio have turned into drug riddled white trash examples of the welfare state. With each day the living situation becomes more barbaric.

The EPA has just about destroyed the coal industry, and with it goes the major source of economic support for the region.

With no more coal workers to mooch from.................
Originally Posted by smokepole
That's almost as bad a combination as toothless whores.......


I submit that a toothless woman is not a bad thing...... wink
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Steelhead


There were guys from NY that fought on the CSA side, guess that makes NY a southern state, following your logic?


Stupid logic on your part. The reverse was true amongst many southerners on the state as well as the family level.

Stupid southerners wanted to keep their n!!gers which is akin to adopting a rabid dog.


Stupid logic Denny? Stupid is you continually coming on here and bitching about your neighbors and all the hillbillies.

Stupid is that you apparently expect something different, but we are always happy to read you bitching about living there. Sorry you had a stroke and can't do a God damned thing for yourself and sorry that you can't find anyone there that wants to do a God damned thing for you.

Carry on
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Steelhead


There were guys from NY that fought on the CSA side, guess that makes NY a southern state, following your logic?


Stupid logic on your part. The reverse was true amongst many southerners on the state as well as the family level.

Stupid southerners wanted to keep their n!!gers which is akin to adopting a rabid dog.


Stupid logic Denny? Stupid is you continually coming on here and bitching about your neighbors and all the hillbillies.

Stupid is that you apparently expect something different, but we are always happy to read you bitching about living there. Sorry you had a stroke and can't do a God damned thing for yourself and sorry that you can't find anyone there that wants to do a God damned thing for you.

Carry on


It would appear you are correct about one thing at least...you are most definitely sorry.
You show me 1) what I said BAD and 2) where I attacked ANYONE prior to being attacked, sheitbird?

Lots of facts and apparently Yankees can't handle facts.

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If they hadn't been so phookin lazy and worked their own fields instead of importing all that cheap labor this country wouldn't be in 10% of the mess it's in today.


I suppose that you do all of your own work, now, and depend on nobody else to furnish any help, supplies, ect.

It was the way things was at the time, world wide, and Old Abe did not even free the Northern slaves at the first, just the ones in the South. Y'all sure need to learn about the real way things were. miles
Few things are as annoying as somebody moving into an area then bitching about the locals. Cut some sign, and move somewhere you can fit in and enjoy life. Or else stfu. [bleep]. Just like all the city pussies that move to the "country" then destroy rural life because they're more than 30 seconds away from the vagisil store.
Originally Posted by milespatton
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If they hadn't been so phookin lazy and worked their own fields instead of importing all that cheap labor this country wouldn't be in 10% of the mess it's in today.


".............and depend on nobody else to furnish any help, supplies, ect.
miles


Really? You're able to equate slavery as folks just needing help and supplies.......Really?

How many years did it take you to pass the 3rd grade?


Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Few things are as annoying as somebody moving into an area then bitching about the locals. Cut some sign, and move somewhere you can fit in and enjoy life. Or else stfu. [bleep]. Just like all the city pussies that move to the "country" then destroy rural life because they're more than 30 seconds away from the vagisil store.

dang, you speak the truth.
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Really? You're able to equate slavery as folks just needing help and supplies.......Really?


You was the one that brought up "they should have worked their own damn fields." I was just curious as to how lazy that you are, and you did not answer my question. I think slavery was wrong, but that was the way the world operated back then, and neither You nor I can do a damn thing about it. You can sit around and wring your hands and cry, or you can accept the truth about things.

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How many years did it take you to pass the 3rd grade?

I had no trouble with the third grade or any other grade. Thanks for asking. How about you? Which grade/grades did you have trouble with? miles
Originally Posted by Steelhead
As I've always said, West Virginians may well be hillbillies, but they are YANKEE hillbillies.


Which would make them the cheapest dadblamed hillbillies in existance.

Just try to squeeze a buck out of a Yankee, George Washington comes out blinking at the light of day....
I think it's just another aspect of the gimme, gimme, gimme mine mentality, and it damn well best be free.
I see it laying their and therefore it is mine for the taking!
Originally Posted by 257Deland
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Guy in the back looks like he was playing with his poo poo

Thats "meth mouth". Are all hillbilly's tweakers?
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U SURE DO GOT A PURDY MOUTH................
Perhaps I should find it amazing - but I don't - that 284LUVR intentionally moved to WV after living someplace ostensibly worse (PA, perhaps?) and by his posts has done nothing but b!tch and moan about being there since arriving. You moved there, so either STFU or move back out. It was like that before you, it'll be like that after you, and obviously you don't fit there.

Here's another thought: if you're having timber cut (BTW - it ain't old growth, since there are only pockets of that left in WV, and none of it in private hands), you've sold the timber to the cutter. Therefore, those trees are his and not yours. If the "thieves" are stealing logs, then there is a problem. I doubt that they are; they are probably taking limbs and slash, something fit only for firewood. If the cutter isn't selling that slash, then it's being left. You MIGHT be able to press charges for trespass, but if the cutter has notified anyone in the area of the slash piles and told them to come get some, then you don't have a leg to stand on other than trespass (and then only if your property is posted to the letter of the law and the contract with the cutter doesn't give him rights of ingress/egress and rights to the timber and slash).

So, go ahead and start pellet gunning windshields. At best, you'll have your azz handed to you by folks simply trying to heat their homes this winter and who probably have more right to that wood than you do. At worst, you'll get your azz beaten and then arrested for destruction of private property and a firearms offense.

Then again, maybe you could pull your head out of your own azz and figure out what is and isn't going on.

For someone who retired to a destination of their own choosing, you sure as Hell b!tch a lot about where you chose to go.
Wow, and wrong.
I just sold some timber on my property[in Appalachia BTW]. I sold the LOGS to the cutter, not the tops, limbs or slash. Only the mill-able logs. I didn't touch the trees in any way[cutting,dragging etc]. But what wasn't a mill-able log is mine, not the loggers nor inbred backwoods meth heads. MINE, period.
Originally Posted by Raeford
Wow, and wrong.
I just sold some timber on my property[in Appalachia BTW]. I sold the LOGS to the cutter, not the tops, limbs or slash. Only the mill-able logs. I didn't touch the trees in any way[cutting,dragging etc]. But what wasn't a mill-able log is mine, not the loggers nor inbred backwoods meth heads. MINE, period.



It can go a lot of different ways.

Some loggers, if they intend on "total cleanup" take the millable lumber, sub out "clean up" to folks (sometimes for free) that gather firewood from the slash, then return with the chipper to handle the tops and small limbs.

I agree RWE and I've had discussions with many local loggers over the years while waiting for MY best time to cut.
The post that I was referencing made it sound as though the landowner had absolutely NO say in how it is done.
No, I did not and if it were interpreted that way, then I stand corrected. The contract governs. The parties to the contract govern, and without that there is no way to know what belongs to whom.

The rest, stands. There are no stands of cuttable "old growth virgin" timber in WV. 284LUVR does nothing but bellyache about where he intentionally moved to. Without knowing the specifics of the situation, the slash/limbs may or may not be "stolen". If 284LUVR wants to start pegging windshields with a pellet gun, he'd best be ready for an azz whooping and/or to be arrested.

Denny,

Locating your coordinates but we'll drop leaflets first!

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I understand 4ager.
If one has never been to this part of the country then they wouldn't understand it's allure. These hills and hollars become a part of you. Even though the area that I reside in has changed drastically due to two major universities[Va Tech & Radford U] with a combined 40K students, I'm still just ten to fifteen minutes drive from true hillbilly land in most any direction. When I head north into WV[half hours drive mostly due to winding roads] I see the devastation that the EPA has wreaked. It's hard to believe that poverty exists at that level that close. It's a totally different world yet when you look past the shanties where many of the [mostly former] coal miners live it is still beautiful country.
I guess that I am saying I couldn't image living anywhere else, ever.
Originally Posted by Raeford
I understand 4ager.
If one has never been to this part of the country then they wouldn't understand it's allure. These hills and hollars become a part of you. Even though the area that I reside in has changed drastically due to two major universities[Va Tech & Radford U] with a combined 40K students, I'm still just ten to fifteen minutes drive from true hillbilly land in most any direction. When I head north into WV[half hours drive mostly due to winding roads] I see the devastation that the EPA has wreaked. It's hard to believe that poverty exists at that level that close. It's a totally different world yet when you look past the shanties where many of the [mostly former] coal miners live it is still beautiful country.
I guess that I am saying I couldn't image living anywhere else, ever.


I know those areas well and agree with everything you said except for one bit: it's not just the EPA that has wreaked devastation on WV. The coal companies and WV politicians have laid waste to that state pretty danged well themselves; financially and ecologically.
While I agree to a certain extent[politicians & Big coal], the last 10-20 years prior to the big O taking office, coalminers weren't doing too bad any more. Making a good living under much better conditions etc.
Originally Posted by Raeford
While I agree to a certain extent[politicians & Big coal], the last 10-20 years prior to the big O taking office, coalminers weren't doing too bad any more. Making a good living under much better conditions etc.


True. Of course, that comes at a steep price (mountain top removal mining is Hell on trout streams, upland bird (grouse, woodcock) populations, is none too good for deer or bear, and overall kind of sucks for groundwater wells).

I have no problem with coal, or mining; just do it right without jacking up the whole works. Seems neither side can (no, they could - they just don't want to) figure that out.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Bristoe


On a serious note, after 3 decades in prison, I'd guess that prison is the only comfort zone many of them will ever have.


That may be up for debate. The whole damn family graduated from Moundsville.



In that case, you might wanna reconsider your pellet gun/windshield solution...& ask Big Smo...(go big or go home)
Originally Posted by 4ager


Here's another thought: if you're having timber cut (BTW - it ain't old growth, since there are only pockets of that left in WV, and none of it in private hands), you've sold the timber to the cutter. Therefore, those trees are his and not yours.
Then again, maybe you could pull your head out of your own azz and figure out what is and isn't going on.

For someone who retired to a destination of their own choosing, you sure as Hell b!tch a lot about where you chose to go.


Third generation logger says otherwise on the old growth.

You need to read the contract before you run off your mouth. I own the [bleep] timber and he is paid an agreed upon fee to do the logging.

Getting someone to work ? Chit. The president of our little bank is my neighbor that's lived here all his life and can't find a carpenter that will show up sober if he can find one at all.
sounds like too much thought and not enough action--- hell, just do it !!!
Wow,we LUV y'all to! LOL

Way too much to try respond to. I'll just say:
-We'll help or do it all for anybody that at least tries to do for their self.
-At least try doing things the way we've done it for yrs before judging us(to put it mildly).
-Don't tell us what we can or can't do with our own property because we don't care what you do with yours.
-Be a good neighbor and you'll never freeze,starve,or not have a roof over your head.

30+ yrs ago you could go pretty much go on anyones property and,within reason,do what you pleased as long as you treated it as if it was your own. Still today though,to some folks,change is hard to swallow. At least try to be patient.

Thought I'd throw this in to:
"Since World War II, West Virginia has had more natives serving in the military per capita than any other state."
Originally Posted by Steelhead


Stupid logic Denny? Stupid is you continually coming on here and bitching about your neighbors and all the hillbillies.

Sorry you had a stroke and can't do a God damned thing for yourself and sorry that you can't find anyone there that wants to do a God damned thing for you.

Carry on


Well aware of my limitations and I lead a full active life enjoying retirement. Stroke ? It is what it is yet frustrating at times.

Scheduled FIVE guys to work the other day. These are guys that have been asking me for work on a regular basis. Only one showed up and that was because he didn't have beer money.

My irritating post is reflected by some of my elderly neighbors that have lived here their entire lives and have nobody to turn to. Common for some old folks to call 911 for the slightest of injuries or maladies because they are afraid.

25 year old guy running the log skidder has a third grade education.

Big drug bust here recently. When the cops arrived the dealers teenage son was caught raping his 8 year old brother in the middle of the dirt road.

Call it culture shock for me. I'll adapt.

I have always wondered how close Giles, Bland and Craig counties[Va] came to being in the annexed/new WV.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by 4ager


Here's another thought: if you're having timber cut (BTW - it ain't old growth, since there are only pockets of that left in WV, and none of it in private hands), you've sold the timber to the cutter. Therefore, those trees are his and not yours.
Then again, maybe you could pull your head out of your own azz and figure out what is and isn't going on.

For someone who retired to a destination of their own choosing, you sure as Hell b!tch a lot about where you chose to go.


Third generation logger says otherwise on the old growth.

You need to read the contract before you run off your mouth. I own the [bleep] timber and he is paid an agreed upon fee to do the logging.

Getting someone to work ? Chit. The president of our little bank is my neighbor that's lived here all his life and can't find a carpenter that will show up sober if he can find one at all.


Third generation logger is full of schit. Get a forester to verify that as "old growth), and you're onto something.

You didn't post the contract, either, so reading it would be difficult. Of course, the bit about the contract governing negates your rant there.

You still moved there, and stay. You still do nothing but b!tch about what it's like there. It seems like either you had no idea where you were moving to when you did (i.e., piss poor planning on your part), or you don't like where you are after you got there (buyer's remorse). Either way, you're the one who moved there and you're the one staying. BillyGoatGruff nailed it, squarely.
Originally Posted by Raeford
I have always wondered how close Giles, Bland and Craig counties[Va] came to being in the annexed/new WV.


I believe their delegates arrived late to the General Assembly due to inclement weather, thus missing the vote and their counties chance to run away.
http://www.wvhighlands.org/VoicePast/VoiceFeb00/Forestry.BG.Feb00Voice.htm

True virgin timber is scarce anywhere, especially in WV. You may have old growth, but virgin?

http://www.patc.us/history/archive/virg_fst.html

http://www.pictures.eaglefreeenterprises.com/virgin_timber.htm
Originally Posted by EZEARL
Wow,we LUV y'all to! LOL

Way too much to try respond to. I'll just say:
-We'll help or do it all for anybody that at least tries to do for their self. I run my chainsaws with one hand,as well as most of my yard work as well clearing, burning brush and for the most part give my guys a helping hand and work along side them instead of sitting on the porch.
-At least try doing things the way we've done it for yrs before judging us(to put it mildly).
-Don't tell us what we can or can't do with our own property I don't because we don't care what you do with yours.
-Be a good neighbor and you'll never freeze,starve,or not have a roof over your head.

30+ yrs ago you could go pretty much go on anyones property and,within reason,do what you pleased as long as you treated it as if it was your own.my 74 YO neighbor said the same thing this morning Still today though,to some folks,change is hard to swallow. At least try to be patient.

Thought I'd throw this in to:
"Since World War II, West Virginia has had more natives serving in the military per capita than any other state."


That's a damn good and truthful post and I agree with you 1000%

Btw, there's many a bridge in our area named after brave WV veterans.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Just like all the city pussies that move to the "country" then destroy rural life because they're more than 30 seconds away from the vagisil store.


Funny you should say that after recently talking to the best gawddamn carpenter that ever held a hammer and taught Jesus H. Christ how to drive a nail.

18 miles was too far to drive. laugh
Did you ever stop to think that perhaps you're not paying enough to have them drive there and put up with you? It's not the job they don't want, not the money; it's you.

If you are anything there like you are here, I can guarantee that you are already well known.
Like the guy that wanted 600 bucks to hang a door. I'll git right on that one. grin

I have no problem paying 35-50 bucks an hour for good honest work.
Originally Posted by 4ager

If you are anything there like you are here, I can guarantee that you are already well known.


This thread is/ was about fugging Thieves !!!

Sounds to me that you support theft.
You forgot "cousin forkin, sperm burpin" in your title...
Sincerely hope that knowledge isn't from personal experience.
Somewhere in a dirt floor shack in West Virginia, some toothless lady is saying to her toothless kid,

"Billy, it was kind of you to help clear that ol' feller's lot. It's a shame; new to town and seems he can't get around too good, I bet he was going to have a time getting it cleaned up."

"Yeah, maw, I know. Who do you know that needs the wood? Shame to see it go to rot..."
Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by 257Deland
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Guy in the back looks like he was playing with his poo poo

Thats "meth mouth". Are all hillbilly's tweakers?


They look like Russians/Eastern Europeans to me.
Originally Posted by 300MAG
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U SURE DO GOT A PURDY MOUTH................


laugh I was just about ready to say, "lay off the kids" ....and then this..
Ain't WV's state song "Dueling Banjos"

grin
Originally Posted by 4ager
I can guarantee that you are already well known.


Yes I am. Bought more than a few boxes of diapers for those that didn't have any money. Also bought the 19 YO neighbor boy a winter coat because all he had was Tee shirt.

Hmmmmmm,.... then there's the guns I keep in my safe because a few can't trust their own family members from stealing them.

A battery for my neighbors 4 wheeler because that's all he has to drive.

Assorted car parts and a meat grinder to make it easier for the mother to grind deer shot on our ground.

A trip or two to the ER to sit with them for the 2 YO.

I've been here 4+ years and get Thanksgiving or Christmas dinners from them every season.
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Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by 257Deland
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Guy in the back looks like he was playing with his poo poo

Thats "meth mouth". Are all hillbilly's tweakers?


They look like Russians/Eastern Europeans to me.


Po Po face doesn't seem too happy.
Originally Posted by 4ager
If 284LUVR wants to start pegging windshields with a pellet gun, he'd best be ready for an azz whooping and/or to be arrested.


Really ? You seem to know me so well.

The landing loader operator identified the guy with the truck and said he was told that I had given him permission.

I'll take care of it my way. Cant stand a thief.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Steelhead


Stupid logic Denny? Stupid is you continually coming on here and bitching about your neighbors and all the hillbillies.

Sorry you had a stroke and can't do a God damned thing for yourself and sorry that you can't find anyone there that wants to do a God damned thing for you.

Carry on


Well aware of my limitations and I lead a full active life enjoying retirement. Stroke ? It is what it is yet frustrating at times.

Scheduled FIVE guys to work the other day. These are guys that have been asking me for work on a regular basis. Only one showed up and that was because he didn't have beer money.

My irritating post is reflected by some of my elderly neighbors that have lived here their entire lives and have nobody to turn to. Common for some old folks to call 911 for the slightest of injuries or maladies because they are afraid.

25 year old guy running the log skidder has a third grade education.

Big drug bust here recently. When the cops arrived the dealers teenage son was caught raping his 8 year old brother in the middle of the dirt road.

Call it culture shock for me. I'll adapt.



I think you're on to something regarding "culture shock". It can be a real challenge depending on your perspective and your life experience. I learned how strong culture shock can be after leaving the Northwest to attend college in the Midwest. I drove home in record time after school let out for the year. ..stopped only once for sleep at Baker City, Oregon. I had a couple of friends that came out and stayed with me so they could work in harvest. They were shocked at a few things out here as well. smile
Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by 257Deland
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Guy in the back looks like he was playing with his poo poo

Thats "meth mouth". Are all hillbilly's tweakers?


That explains a few things, there are a few around here that have the same affliction coupled with scratches and sores all over them.

And strangely enough they are mostly young women.
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Steelhead


There were guys from NY that fought on the CSA side, guess that makes NY a southern state, following your logic?


Stupid logic on your part. The reverse was true amongst many southerners on the state as well as the family level.

Stupid southerners wanted to keep their n!!gers which is akin to adopting a rabid dog.


Stupid logic Denny? Stupid is you continually coming on here and bitching about your neighbors and all the hillbillies.

Stupid is that you apparently expect something different, but we are always happy to read you bitching about living there. Sorry you had a stroke and can't do a God damned thing for yourself and sorry that you can't find anyone there that wants to do a God damned thing for you.

Carry on


It would appear you are correct about one thing at least...you are most definitely sorry.
sorry and ignorant. It's booming in WV. Just not with coal. Open your eyes.
Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
Ain't WV's state song "Dueling Banjos"

grin
Yeap. So I sujest you stay the hell out.

Originally Posted by Toddly
Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
Ain't WV's state song "Dueling Banjos"

grin
Yeap. So I sujest you stay the hell out.



A WV hillybilly boy runs into his house and proclaims, "I've found the girl that I'm gonna marry! And she's a virgin!"
Incensed, his father pounds his fist on the table.
"There ain't no way you'll marry that girl! If she aint' good enough for her own family, she ain't good enough for ours."
Last memory of WV was the young girl working the WV toll booth. Looked like she about 4 teeth left. She was friendly and said "ya' all come back.

Stopped at a Wendy's before that for dinner. Bathroom was dirtier than the ones in Alabama. Front area floor looked like they had just scooted the hogs out. My family and I promptly left. Health dept. did investigate. I'll give you that. And they were nice on the phone.
Originally Posted by Raeford
I understand 4ager.
If one has never been to this part of the country then they wouldn't understand it's allure. These hills and hollars become a part of you. Even though the area that I reside in has changed drastically due to two major universities[Va Tech & Radford U] with a combined 40K students, I'm still just ten to fifteen minutes drive from true hillbilly land in most any direction. When I head north into WV[half hours drive mostly due to winding roads] I see the devastation that the EPA has wreaked. It's hard to believe that poverty exists at that level that close. It's a totally different world yet when you look past the shanties where many of the [mostly former] coal miners live it is still beautiful country.
I guess that I am saying I couldn't image living anywhere else, ever.


Folks down there are certainly doing a whole hell of a lot better now, than they were doing back in the 50s, 60s, 70s...

Alot of folks from outside have moved down there to retire.. bringing in money besides having to rely on coal money... many folks were hillside dirt farmers, and survived off of that...

a big influx started in the early 1970s, after John Denver came out with "Almost Heaven, West Virginia" and you had the 'get back to nature crowd', moving down there from the Northeast and the Midwest....

My family roots are down there from Wyth County VA to Raleigh County WVA, and have been since that area had the first white settlers in there...My grandfather was born in Wythe County in 1907, and my grandmother in Beckley WVa in 1911...if someone has the last name of Meadows or Lily, they are probably related to me...

I was born in Bluefield in 1952, which had a population back then of about 20,000.. now adays I think it is more like 12 to 13 thousand. My mother was raised in Monroe County, and I have relatives peppering Giles Co VA, Mercer, Monroe, Greenbrier and Raleigh Counties WVa...

And Steelie's comment about they are all yankees? I remember few statues erected in small towns in WVa dedicated for the local boys that fought for the Union in the Civil War...but there are plenty dedicated to the local boys who fought for the south.....the county seat of Monroe County is named Union.. but it only has a statue for the boys who fought for the Confederacy...

Poverty has always been a fact of life in Southern WV and the counties in VA bordering it... and yeah, problems that come with poverty still exist down there also....but the locals also know how to take care of one another... you do something for someone in need, twenty years later most will not have forgotten it...

and yeah, they are Leary of outsiders...but no where near as bad as it was when I was growing up...

and despite its good and bad, many of the people down there are of Scotch, Irish and English ancestry...they were a proud independent people when they came there, and their descendents are still the same.. it may not appear to be much to outsiders, but the folks down there are DAMNED proud of where they come from.. and they don't take kindly to outsiders putting it down or pissing on them...

there are plenty of good old boys you just don't want to piss off.. they'll give ya the shirt off their backs if you are in need... and they'll cut your throat if you piss on them...

and as said, a Lot of WVa boys have served their country....I have a lot of relatives that came back from WW 2, highly decorated in combat.....they tend not to back down from a fight very easily....

each year there is a family reunion held in Beckley at Round Top...The Lily family reunion...it holds numerous entries in the Guinness Book of Records, as the largest family reunion held in the United States each year... my great grandfather and 2 of his brothers started that reunion in 1929...its attended by people from all 50 states...

I'm awfully proud of my family roots down there, that's for damned sure...they are good people...some of the most giving you'll find anywhere...much like many people use to be all over this nation.. but it has died out for many reasons... but it is still alive in those mountain hollers and hills...
Seafire, your post is right on target and I agree with you in its entirety.

Won't tolerate my property being stolen however.
Denny, I hope you find the workers you need, and settle in and begin to enjoy the slower paced life offered there.

Just adjust your engine down to "ooze control" and roll along, brother.

Sincere Best wishes,

MARK
Originally Posted by wildbill59
Last memory of WV was the young girl working the WV toll booth. Looked like she about 4 teeth left. She was friendly and said "ya' all come back.

Stopped at a Wendy's before that for dinner. Bathroom was dirtier than the ones in Alabama. Front area floor looked like they had just scooted the hogs out. My family and I promptly left. Health dept. did investigate. I'll give you that. And they were nice on the phone.


I don't know about the gal in the toll booth, but our local Wendy's got shut down because employees were doing meth along with the manager. I thought it was strange that so many employees were missing teeth in one restaurant. It's not just West Virginia.
Originally Posted by calikooknic
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Little known trivia fact:

The toothbrush was invented in West Virginia. Had it been invented in any other state it would have been called a teethbrush. smile
Originally Posted by safariman
Denny, I hope you find the workers you need, and settle in and begin to enjoy the slower paced life offered there.

Just adjust your engine down to "ooze control" and roll along, brother.

Sincere Best wishes,

MARK


Thread wasn't about workers, slowing down or my stupid stroke as Steelhead joyfully pointed out. Life goes on and I enjoy it to the fullest of my ability everyday.

Thread was about thieves plain and simple.

I am assuming they were taking the logs waiting to be loaded out? If they were taking the end cuts they probably believed they were doing you a favor, or the tops even. A simple discussion with them would probably solve the problem.

Your constant disparaging discussions on West Virginians in general though is becoming quite irritating. I guess if you want to judge us all by the actions of a few, well that is your choice, a poor one, but your choice. It makes one wonder how much investigating you did before you moved to that location.

Good Day
Yup, I'm a real azzhole. Just gave my neighbor lady all the firewood she and her son can cut this season for free.

Greedy bastid than I am I couldn't help but overcharge the guy in the dump truck for his firewood.

10 bucks a load for locust and maple.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Yup, I'm a real azzhole.


You got that in York County Denny, I get it all the time laugh
Originally Posted by WV_Airedale

Your constant disparaging discussions on West Virginians in general though is becoming quite irritating.

Good Day


Sorry that I can't tolerated thieves or my neighbor raping his stepdaughter or the two brothers that have beat several people to death and got away with it or the chitty WV state government that has just plain PHU(KED the good people of WV or the teenage boy caught raping his eight year old brother.

As far as other people having more right to my wood than me Fu(k you and your mule.
All they have to do is ASK me and I'll give it to them as I have done since moving here

Originally Posted by 284LUVR
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Your constant disparaging discussions on West Virginians in general though is becoming quite irritating.

Good Day


After coming back from the barber shop I'll be down at my dirt poor friend and neighbor's home with a quart of brake fluid that I bought to help him fix his brakes because they have no money and a grand daughter as well as his wife that have some serious health issues and no transportation to the ER.

The kind and generous EMT at the volunteer fire company retired after many years and it really affected the community. 911 calls have taken up to an hour to respond.

When we get done with that I'll take some cold beer up to the guy on the skidder. He's 25 years old with a 3rd grade education.
How the hell is that possible today ?
My neighbor lady has lived here all her life and is a locally retired school teacher. The West Virginia school system in our area has just out and out screwed these poor people and my heart goes out to them.
Excuse me, you still didn't answer the questions I put forth.

As far as me and a mule, I don't have a mule.

You keep throwing out all these WONDERFUL things you do for your poor third world neighbors... Hey JACKWAGON, we do that ALL THE TIME FOR OUR NEIGHBORS! You want a cookie and an atta boy for doing what is the standard? really?!?! You are hardly the second coming of Mother Theresa.

I ask a simple question, you refuse to answer and then proceed to tell me to perform sex acts with an animal?!?!

I think I speak for all West Virginians when I say please do us all a favor and take your sorry carcass back to wherever you came from.

Now, if you want to answer the question so I can understand completely what happened and then try to explain (if there is an explanation) what the locals MIGHT have been thinking, we might get this cleaned up. Where did I say anyone had a RIGHT to your wood? Nowhere. I despise a thief just as much as the next person, I am not condoning thievery, just trying to understand what happened and maybe explain the local thinking. Sex offenders? Shoot them, I in no way condone that either. But then I didn't bring them into this you did.

BUT, if you want to continue to call names and be a general pain in our collective rears I will bid adieu to you.
I will do my best to answer.

Originally Posted by WV_Airedale
I am assuming they were taking the logs waiting to be loaded out? If they were taking the end cuts they probably believed they were doing you a favor, or the tops even.Sorry my friend but the person is a known thief A simple discussion with them would probably solve the problem. Good Day


Simply put the WV guy went to the landing and got himself a huge load of firewood after telling the loader operator that I had given him permission to do so. I wasn't even home at the time and he knew that as he had to drive past my house to get to the landing.

I call that theft.
What were your plans for the wood taken?

Call the local cops and press charges. Hell, call the PA cops "back home", and ask their advice, too.
Originally Posted by 4ager
What were your plans for the wood taken?


Firewood to heat my home worth several hundred $$$ if I had to buy it out of pocket.

The guy that took it is a lazy drunk that hasn't worked in over 20 years and lives off his wife's SSI check.

I'm sure that you will come running to his defense.
Not running to his defense at all, you miserable old SOB. I asked a question because YOU will have to prove loss if you get off your azz and call the cops.
All I have to do to prove loss is have the cop talk to the loader operator but I have no intention of calling the law.
No, you ignorant SOB, you have to prove that the wood had value to you (I.e., that it wasn't simply being left as slash). The loader operator is a witness to who, when, and how much.

Of course you won't call the law. In fact, you won't do a damned thing (and you know it).

You can spout off about all the "good" you do, while looking down your nose at everyone around you, but the only person you have to convince that you're doing anything at all and that you're not a miserable old bastid is you. I'd say, by your posts, you're failing in that regard by a considerable distance.

Carry on.
Originally Posted by 4ager
No, you ignorant SOB, you have to prove that the wood had value to you (I.e., that it wasn't simply being left as slash). The loader operator is a witness to who, when, and how much.

Carry on.


The logger has already established a dollar value for me as he sells firewood as well and yes it was set aside as my firewood.

The loader operator made an honest mistake because he didn't know it had been set aside for me.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by 4ager
No, you ignorant SOB, you have to prove that the wood had value to you (I.e., that it wasn't simply being left as slash). The loader operator is a witness to who, when, and how much.

Carry on.


The logger has already established a dollar value for me as he sells firewood as well and yes it was set aside as my firewood.

The loader operator made an honest mistake because he didn't know it had been set aside for me.


You just negated your claim of theft, unless you want to make that case against the loader operator.

To prove a loss, you have to prove that it wasn't abandoned, that it had value, and that no one acting with authority gave permission to take it.

As stated, though, you won't do a damned thing. The rest of the earlier post stands.
Originally Posted by 4ager
To prove a loss, you have to prove that it wasn't abandoned, that it had value, and that no one acting with authority gave permission to take it.


If I was the type to go crying to the cops I believe I have a case as several lumber companies in the area have successfully prosecuted trespassers that have stolen wood on the ground and then sold commercially as firewood.

Plain and simple they're tired of thieves.

Well,....time to load up your ole' pellet gun, and descend on the evil doers like the wrath of a Righteous and Vengeful God, I'd say.

Good Hunting.

GTC
Would wearing camo face paint on this Spec Ops mission be appropriate ?
I would definitely carry a kazoo, were I you.

Play martial and overwhelmingly majestic tunes as you march into battle.

Has "Ride of the Valkeyries" ever been done by a kazoo band ?

GTC
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by safariman
Denny, I hope you find the workers you need, and settle in and begin to enjoy the slower paced life offered there.

Just adjust your engine down to "ooze control" and roll along, brother.

Sincere Best wishes,

MARK


Thread wasn't about workers, slowing down or my stupid stroke as Steelhead joyfully pointed out. Life goes on and I enjoy it to the fullest of my ability everyday.

Thread was about thieves plain and simple.



I think it was about the stroke Denny. You got all combative and started slinging shiet over nothing, congratulations?

I like you, always have, not sure why you suddenly feel the need to be combative, other than the fact that you are pissed off about the stroke. Some folks that I know that know you have said that you have become 'angry' since that time.

If it makes you happy to be an angry old man, than carry on and move in with Mannlicher. I'd like to think you are better than that.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
If it makes you happy to be an angry old man, than carry on and move in with Mannlicher...


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