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Posted By: denton Islamofascist Riots - 11/04/05
Denmark is now suffering the same type of riots that have gripped France for the past week. The young toughs on the street are telling police that the police are not allowed in their neighborhood, and that the Islamists will control what goes on there.

They attacked one building by breaking a back window, pouring gasoline in, and tossing in a match. If that's your building, you have no gun, because you live in Europe, and you can't shoot the perp in the act, as you can in most of the US.

Hmmm... A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state... must have been a correct call.
Posted By: Qtip Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/04/05
Europe has a huge Muslim population and it is starting to pay for it too. I hope people in the US pay close attention. Has anyone ever thought that this has been part of their "plan" from the git go?? Emmigrate large numbers of Muslims from different lands to wreak havoc within another nation? Sound far fetched??? Maybe not. Maybe people should start viewing Islam as a nation and not as a world religion. The various Muslim countries are really only states of the larger nation. Interesting concept. They can seem to have different views, but in reality act as one. If Iraq fails it will be because of this. Afghanistan also. Although I do support our efforts there.

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!
To God Alone Be The Glory!
Posted By: Ringman Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/04/05
Qtip,

Haven't you heard our president? Why he has certainly convinced me that Islam is a religion of love and peace.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
Bush ain't all bad but he's confusing politics with reality on that one. Might have a couple of myopic views on immigration, globalization, and Saudi Arabia as well.
Posted By: idahjo Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
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Qtip,

Haven't you heard our president? Why he has certainly convinced me that Islam is a religion of love and peace.


[DigitalDan grabbed my word I was using while I was typing this up, so I am going to still use it anyway!]
Ringman; It is a myopic view indeed to say �Bush� said it� In fact, ALMOST EVERYONE (Republican and Democrats alike), including the network News agencies have been feeding that �dribble� to anyone who will listen.

QTip has it correct:
�Europe has a huge Muslim population and it is starting to pay for it too. I hope people in the US pay close attention. Has anyone ever thought that this has been part of their "plan" from the git go?? Emmigrate large numbers of Muslims from different lands to wreak havoc within another nation? Sound far fetched??? Maybe not. Maybe people should start viewing Islam as a nation and not as a world religion. The various Muslim countries are really only states of the larger nation. Interesting concept. They can seem to have different views, but in reality act as one.�

The teachings of Islam is more like a cancer in the worldwide scheme of things than a religion. If you are not Muslim you are an �infidel� and you are to be eliminated. I saw a documentary that explained, �Young Muslim men are taught by their religion that they cannot have SEX until they marry, and this drives them to become suicide martyrs so that they can be blessed with the 72 (or whatever number) of virgins just as soon as they make it to Allah-land.�

Europe is getting what it deserves, but do not think for a minute you are going to get a majority in America to believe these kind folks are not part of a new-gentler religion! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> ['wanna buy a bridge?]

[I forgot to finish the thrust of all this]
One of the Suicide bombers was so fanatic about his trip to the promised land that he wrapped his genitals in aluminum foil so he could arrive with his �tool� intact and ready for his promised �reward�.
And, all of this from hypocrites who are known to take trips out of the land of Islam to frequent bawdy houses, bars and prostitutes. Also notice the older, wiser leaders of the peace-loving movement (�faith�) send the weak-minded �chumps� to do the dirty work while they go ahead and reap their �rewards� while still here on Earth�

Somehow all of this seems unequivocally misguided to me.

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Denmark is now suffering the same type of riots that have gripped France for the past week. The young toughs on the street are telling police that the police are not allowed in their neighborhood, and that the Islamists will control what goes on there.

They attacked one building by breaking a back window, pouring gasoline in, and tossing in a match. If that's your building, you have no gun, because you live in Europe, and you can't shoot the perp in the act, as you can in most of the US.

Hmmm... A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state... must have been a correct call.


Well I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. they fought against us in the UN when we tried to get them together on the war on terror. Europe's in a mess. but they have been for some time. its just now coming to fruit. Canada is no diferent and we will see it hit there soon, except they are under the dominion of Great Britian. We will see.
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Europe has a huge Muslim population and it is starting to pay for it too. I hope people in the US pay close attention. Has anyone ever thought that this has been part of their "plan" from the git go?? Emmigrate large numbers of Muslims from different lands to wreak havoc within another nation? Sound far fetched??? Maybe not. Maybe people should start viewing Islam as a nation and not as a world religion. The various Muslim countries are really only states of the larger nation. Interesting concept. They can seem to have different views, but in reality act as one. If Iraq fails it will be because of this. Afghanistan also. Although I do support our efforts there.

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!
To God Alone Be The Glory!


Interesting point.
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Qtip,

Haven't you heard our president? Why he has certainly convinced me that Islam is a religion of love and peace.


Although I like this president, I have to agree with you. Is there anywhere in the Koran that it speaks of peace, except with the extermination of the infidels?
Posted By: Steve_NO Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
Funny how all the MSM coverage focuses on the alleged unemployment and police harassment afflicting the poor, poor Muslims rather than the heinous acts of the rioters destroying their host country. Some shooting on sight of arsonists and looters would have the same salutary effect it did in New Orleans, together with the instant deportation of all rioters back to their blessed North African Muslim homeland. They leave their [bleep] countries for Europe, and then try to recreate them.
Posted By: las Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
Last December, I spent 10 days in Italy. Not enough! BUT!

The very most incongruous sight I saw was a North Africxn (I assume) woman begging in the doorway of McDonalds in Salerno.

In every Italian city, there were beggars - I don't remember any that were not "immigrants" of the North African genotype. Without doubt on my part, they were Muslims.

In Picadilly Circus in the heart of London, we tried asking directions to the Queen's Theater (a half block off PC). The first several people we asked did not speak English. We had had better luck in Rome, Salerno and Florence!

I believe Europe is retrogressing in some ways into 13th century Islam.
Posted By: WETIBBE Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
Knock, knock - HELLO - Anybody home America ?????

Three million illegal immigrants each year, from 100 countries, pouring over our undefended borders !!!!

Remember the Washington DC snipers ? Two screwballs terrorized hundreds maybe thousands and the police couldn't apprehend them.

Now the Mexican drug cartel, MS13 and others are teaming with Al-Qaeda ! And hundreds to thousands of Arabs have already crossed over - theyre HERE. *( No-one can count them ). They use "apprehended" numbers and extrapolate.

There are some here who like to attack the French but perhaps some of Frances policies are made with one eye on their millions of Muslims in their midst. Those rioters are not new arrivals, they are first generation Muslims, French citizens. Most from former French Colonial North African countries. The initiation of the riots was due to two youths fleeing police, hiding in an electrical sub-station and being electrocuted. What that has to do with 50% unemployment and duality in a discriminatory racial bias, I have no clue. Apparently, if the news media can be believed, which it often cannot, Muslim political and religious were not involved with organizing or fomenting the riots. They are trying to quell them. But my guess would be that the sponaneity wasn't so spontaneous. I would speculate that there were Al-Qaeda cells or sympathizers in the groups who prompted and propelled the riots. It is totally unreasonable to sustain them for so long, and make them so widespread all over France, even Toulouse and Marseille, for such a flimsy excuse, without some additional fuel *( called communism/socialism ), which abounds in France.

None of our ancestors had any foresight, or consideration, for their future generations, slavery, colonialism. There were consequences for us. And our present government has no foresight for our future generations.

What your are seeing in France, Denmark, and with the world's natural calamities, Tsunami's in Indonesia, Hurricanes in the Gulf, earthquakes in Kashmir, where property damage is enormous, death is huge and human tragedy and suffering is sickening, to say nothing of the bankrupting losses in Billions, --- that is but the tip of the iceburg for the future as our world's population continues to explode exponentially and immigration spirals upward astronomically.

We're all in a barrel, in the river just above Niagara Falls.

Bill Tibbe
Posted By: pumpgun Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
Islam is a religion of love and peace?

Not hardly they believe in converting by the sword. They can not live in peace with anyone except those of their belief. Christans can live in peace with other christans (sort of) and christans can live in peace with jews and thoses of other faiths. But followers of islam will never be at peace with us till we are converted. Till then we are an ofense to their god and must either be killed or converted. tom

Las I noticed the same thing the last time we were there. They were all over rome. They were even in my wife's home town near foggia. That was a first nerver saw them there before. Also saw a lot of people that we think were from eastern europe.
Posted By: shreck Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
Of course the french population is unarmed, oddly enough the gangs are not, now how did that happen? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
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Of course the french population is unarmed, oddly enough the gangs are not, now how did that happen? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


Shreck, that's an easy one. That's because the evil, greedy, profit driven, capitalistic U.S. gun companies have made their horrid baby killing instruments of death and sent them to France, and all other peace loving countries in the world.

Now, France can sue the U.S. gun companies, just as the Communist Canadians intend to do. Put them all out of business and then peace, love, and good fellowship shall reign throughout the Universe! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

L.W.
Posted By: sluggo63 Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
I think Bush43 knows exactly what the islamists are about. Making nice with them in public is required to ensure our energy supply. (Why we're in this fix is a whole 'nother topic of discussion!)
Somehow our country seems to get the right leader for the time. G.W. Bush is a fundamentalist Christian, so he knows how the Islamists think because he thinks the same way. A secular person would have no frame of reference to understand the Muslim mindset.
I sure wish Pres. Bush would do something about the illegal immigrants...Like close the damned borders!
Posted By: WETIBBE Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
Sluggo:

Bravo, my friend. Well spoken, very incisive, on target. My compliments.

Bill Tibbe
Posted By: BCBrian Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/05/05
I don't know how it works in other countries. But in Canada - it takes at least five years for citizenship. I think that even the slightest broken law during that "probationary period" should result in an automatic one-way, never-to-return deportation.

In this case - if they don't like France, Frace should round 'em all up - and ship them back from whence they came - toute suite!
Posted By: pumpgun Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/06/05
The french have allways treated non-french people living in france like crap. IMHO it is now coming back to roost on their doorstep. tom
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/06/05
"One of the Suicide bombers was so fanatic about his trip to the promised land that he wrapped his genitals in aluminum foil so he could arrive with his �tool� intact and ready for his promised �reward� "

Joe, I've been told that one of the interesting effects of the Semtex vest political statement, is that the purveyors head often becomes a fairly long range projectile, and can land a substantial distance from the main Goo-pile.

I can only imagine the tin foil wrapped number landing in ones garden, or patio..

All around Robles Junction, AZ., SW of Historic Ryan Field, S. of Tucson, and over Three Points ,Tucson Rifle Club's Range..................................ALL DAY yesterday was a beehive of Border Patrol Helo-activity, when we headed home , on towards dusk.......we reflected on the hourly cost of this excercise..............and whether it's for the " Visibility Factor", or any real effect.

It would be easier to stop it at the border, IMHO.

GTC
I think the French aught to go to the siege strategy. surround the towns with Military, cut off all power and water to the towns. and wait for them to kill each other or surrender as they leave the town, and then execute justice appropriatley. However I am not sure the French know how to do that.
Posted By: idahjo Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/06/05
Crossfire: If, in fact, the belt has a 360deg. circle of Semtex the effect should be the bottom half going one direction and the top half going the other...

[I wonder] ...if any of these "mental giants" ever enquired of their Jihad instigators, "If we all wrap our 'privates' in aluminum foil and only our remaining lower body arrives in the holy place to receive our promised virgins, just how is Allah going to decide which of the baked aluminum-wrapped schnitzels belonged to me?" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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Funny how all the MSM coverage focuses on the alleged unemployment and police harassment afflicting the poor, poor Muslims rather than the heinous acts of the rioters destroying their host country. Some shooting on sight of arsonists and looters would have the same salutary effect it did in New Orleans, together with the instant deportation of all rioters back to their blessed North African Muslim homeland. They leave their [bleep] countries for Europe, and then try to recreate them.


Had these riots been just a few days we could consider what is being done is out of poverty or such. However with it going this long and spreading it appears to me to be more planned out and will not end soon.

We had better take a good look and start planning for this if it were to hit here.
Posted By: DixieFreedom Re: Islamofascist Riots - 11/07/05
up to about 3000 cars burned; shotguns fired at police; housing projects burned, expanding all over france...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9891709/

"What if they held a war and nobody came? Then the war would come to you." That is the full quote.

As I understand it, a Moslem views the world in two categories, the house of faith and the house of war. All Islamic nations are the house of faith, all infidel nations are the house of war. Moslems are allowed to live in the house of war for the purpose of converting or overthrowing them.
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