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I sense it will mean an end to any conservative hopes for reversing this progressive communist trend.

Think about this.

The government can reprogram your smart phone at will, without your consent and without your knowledge. They can turn it on after you've turned it off. They can track it and you and what you do or say on it.

The government can essentially do the same to your home computer if it's accessed to the world wide web.

Now tell me, do you really think your "ELECTRONIC VOTE" is secure?

All the polls suggested a Romney win. People were confident in it.

All the polls suggest a conservative win in November. People are confident in it.

If it doesn't happen, I firmly believe the answer is apparent.
"All the polls suggested a Romney win."

Are you right sure about that?
Originally Posted by curdog4570
"All the polls suggested a Romney win."

Are you right sure about that?
As I remember it, the majority of the polls suggested the opposite, but a couple of the highly-touted polls...ones with supposedly high accuracy in the past elections, predicted a Romney win.
imo a path has been set, anyone that thinks conservatives (and there's not many of those in the GOP) are gonna make inroads to political power

and then the rest of the nation that is more liberal will jump on board if we just show them how much better our way really is....

hasn't been paying attention

you may very well see a slowing of the tide, if the GOP takes the Senate and retains the house majority.

but there ain't nada much anyone can do to avoid the train wreck that's coming, other than personally prepare your family as best as you can to your abilities.

and as much as so many of us around here hopes the SHTF so that we can rebuild as a conservative nation I don't see it playing out that way.

when there's blood in the streets (if it comes to that) armed gangs in shootouts with LEO

whaddya suppose TPTB are gonna decide what would solve that problem???


did you say gun control/confiscation? I thought so.

folks that think we're gonna right this ship politically are either very optimistic or a lil bit delusional
Things get worse, til things get better.
THIS!
Right, an engineered pandemic by obongo and co, ebola purposefully let in, holes in the border, more disease and illegals.

he would like to cause enough civil unrest to declare martial law and appoint himself ruler, funny thing is, he thinks he would survive the attempt.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by curdog4570
"All the polls suggested a Romney win."

Are you right sure about that?
As I remember it, the majority of the polls suggested the opposite, but a couple of the highly-touted polls...ones with supposedly high accuracy in the past elections, predicted a Romney win.




I remember most of the polls in 2012 within five percent plus or minus and they were right.

Today we got better numbers...

RCP Average 9/3-29 Right Direction 28 percent Wrong Track 65.7 percent -37.7 spread
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All the polls suggested a Romney win. People were confident in it.
As I remember Karl Rove was predicting a Romney win, not the polls and certainly not all of them.
Guys, how about you address the premise, that electronic voting is likely compromised and that Obama won because a bunch of azzwipes stayed home because Ron Paul wasn't on the ticket?
Originally Posted by RickyD
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All the polls suggested a Romney win. People were confident in it.
As I remember Karl Rove was predicting a Romney win, not the polls and certainly not all of them.




Karl Rove was one of those who said Romney would win in a very close race.
The same old chit will continue either way.
Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
I sense it will mean an end to any conservative hopes for reversing this progressive communist trend.

Think about this.

The government can reprogram your smart phone at will, without your consent and without your knowledge. They can turn it on after you've turned it off. They can track it and you and what you do or say on it.

The government can essentially do the same to your home computer if it's accessed to the world wide web.

Now tell me, do you really think your "ELECTRONIC VOTE" is secure?

All the polls suggested a Romney win. People were confident in it.

All the polls suggest a conservative win in November. People are confident in it.

If it doesn't happen, I firmly believe the answer is apparent.
Dan, I love ya brother...

But if you think a conservative win will put the government domestic spying in check, then let me tell you about this Nigerian Prince I met.

A conservative will still be a Republican, and the Republican party is 110% all for domestic spying; just like the Democrat party.
probably moreso
We don't vote electronically here in Montana so I guess I missed your point.

However, there are no Anti-federalists (conservatives) on any ballot in any state that's likely to get voted into office, at least at the federal level. Therefore, the quarter is in play and there won't be any change no matter who wins.
Originally Posted by GunGeek
Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
I sense it will mean an end to any conservative hopes for reversing this progressive communist trend.

Think about this.

The government can reprogram your smart phone at will, without your consent and without your knowledge. They can turn it on after you've turned it off. They can track it and you and what you do or say on it.

The government can essentially do the same to your home computer if it's accessed to the world wide web.

Now tell me, do you really think your "ELECTRONIC VOTE" is secure?

All the polls suggested a Romney win. People were confident in it.

All the polls suggest a conservative win in November. People are confident in it.

If it doesn't happen, I firmly believe the answer is apparent.
Dan, I love ya brother...

But if you think a conservative win will put the government domestic spying in check, then let me tell you about this Nigerian Prince I met.

A conservative will still be a Republican, and the Republican party is 110% all for domestic spying; just like the Democrat party.


The only thing I disagree with is is the term "conservative" Republican. There are none at least those who will be voted into office.
As long as you get 108% of a county turning out to vote and 100%
of them voting for the Dems, the conservatives will no longer win. Remember Al Frankin? He lost. But then there were enough votes found in the trunk of someone's car for him to win. Sure I believe all is legal and above board.
I once voted a straight Republican ticket on an electronic voting machine here in Travis Co. On the last page it asks "Want to review your vote?" Why would I review a straight ticket? I did review and found I had not voted for President or anything else above county Judge.All school board and dog catcher votes were solid Rep votes. All others said "No vote". I don't trust the machines.
Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
Guys, how about you address the premise, that electronic voting is likely compromised


Here in NC we don't have to worry about electronic fraud. The kay hagan bish will win , victory will be brought to her by a pizza delivery man , sean haugh.


Mike
Originally Posted by poboy
I once voted a straight Republican ticket on an electronic voting machine here in Travis Co. On the last page it asks "Want to review your vote?" Why would I review a straight ticket? I did review and found I had not voted for President or anything else above county Judge.All school board and dog catcher votes were solid Rep votes. All others said "No vote". I don't trust the machines.


That's a major reason Montana outlawed electronic voting machines. Most voting now is done be mail-in ballot.
Originally Posted by derby_dude
We don't vote electronically here in Montana so I guess I missed your point.

However, there are no Anti-federalists (conservatives) on any ballot in any state that's likely to get voted into office, at least at the federal level. Therefore, the quarter is in play and there won't be any change no matter who wins.





Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.

When she wins, that will put the GOP over the six needed in the Senate.
Originally Posted by bea175
The same old chit will continue either way.

Yes.

Domestic spying isn't a tool for giving Democrats more power. Domestic spying is a tool for giving the government more power.

Hence, if you're a politician you're going to favor it, and if you're not, you're going to oppose it.

The only way this is a Democrat/Republican issue is if a politician of one party can convince you that she is not as much in favor of it as a competing politician of the other party, so that she can be assured of your vote. Once the election is over and the winners are declared, the Democrat-vs-Republican nature of the issue will disappear and it'll go back to being ruler-vs-subject.

You say, "Oh, but my Republican politician would never do that, because she has impeccable conservative bona fides and she says..."?

If you're still stuck in the believing-what-politicians-say stage of your political development, then I don't have much to say to you, except to suggest that it'll probably be more fun to have a tea party with the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny than it will to waste your time talking to grownups about politics.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER


Today we got better numbers...

RCP Average 9/3-29 Right Direction 28 percent Wrong Track 65.7 percent -37.7 spread

Unfortunately, that doesn't mean they won't vote for the local Democrat or RINO.
Those "are we going the right direction or wrong direction" polls are so generalized and useless. One guy wants segregation back, another guy wants communism, and a third wants no government at all. Yet all three are reflected in the same "wrong direction" on the poll....
Originally Posted by Barak
Originally Posted by bea175
The same old chit will continue either way.

Yes.

Domestic spying isn't a tool for giving Democrats more power. Domestic spying is a tool for giving the government more power.

Hence, if you're a politician you're going to favor it, and if you're not, you're going to oppose it.

The only way this is a Democrat/Republican issue is if a politician of one party can convince you that she is not as much in favor of it as a competing politician of the other party, so that she can be assured of your vote. Once the election is over and the winners are declared, the Democrat-vs-Republican nature of the issue will disappear and it'll go back to being ruler-vs-subject.

You say, "Oh, but my Republican politician would never do that, because she has impeccable conservative bona fides and she says..."?

If you're still stuck in the believing-what-politicians-say stage of your political development, then I don't have much to say to you, except to suggest that it'll probably be more fun to have a tea party with the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny than it will to waste your time talking to grownups about politics.



Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.
When she wins, that will put the GOP over the six needed in the Senate.
That is when things will begin to change.

Joni Ernst record in Iowa is for real. She made a real difference.
Where you are stuck at cannot change those real facts.

Lt. Col. Ernst has always made a difference. She has earned the right to do the same in Washington.
Earned the right to try and with enough help there will be a difference. A change.
I've seen it happen before.
Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
I sense it will mean an end to any conservative hopes for reversing this progressive communist trend.

Think about this.

The government can reprogram your smart phone at will, without your consent and without your knowledge. They can turn it on after you've turned it off.
What smart phone? None of those pos is in this house..

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The government can essentially do the same to your home computer if it's accessed to the world wide web.
All they'll see is a pic of my shop...

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Now tell me, do you really think your "ELECTRONIC VOTE" is secure?
Hell no.. It's why ALL voting should be on paper..

Originally Posted by Barak
Originally Posted by bea175
The same old chit will continue either way.

Yes.

Domestic spying isn't a tool for giving Democrats more power. Domestic spying is a tool for giving the government more power.

Hence, if you're a politician you're going to favor it, and if you're not, you're going to oppose it.

The only way this is a Democrat/Republican issue is if a politician of one party can convince you that she is not as much in favor of it as a competing politician of the other party, so that she can be assured of your vote. Once the election is over and the winners are declared, the Democrat-vs-Republican nature of the issue will disappear and it'll go back to being ruler-vs-subject.

You say, "Oh, but my Republican politician would never do that, because she has impeccable conservative bona fides and she says..."?

If you're still stuck in the believing-what-politicians-say stage of your political development, then I don't have much to say to you, except to suggest that it'll probably be more fun to have a tea party with the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny than it will to waste your time talking to grownups about politics.
About ten years ago I would have said BS... Not today.. I say you're spot on..
Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
I sense it will mean an end to any conservative hopes for reversing this progressive communist trend.

Think about this.

The government can reprogram your smart phone at will, without your consent and without your knowledge. They can turn it on after you've turned it off. They can track it and you and what you do or say on it.

The government can essentially do the same to your home computer if it's accessed to the world wide web.

Now tell me, do you really think your "ELECTRONIC VOTE" is secure?

All the polls suggested a Romney win. People were confident in it.

All the polls suggest a conservative win in November. People are confident in it.

If it doesn't happen, I firmly believe the answer is apparent.


You sure like to throw that word "conservative" around. In refererence to the last couple of elections...it's pretty tough for conservatives to win when there isn't one on the ballet. I agree with the fraud factor, for sure. Lots of it is not so sophisticated though. I watched bus after bus of invalids come to the polls last year, with a single (obviously Democrat) nurse "assisting" each with their votes. I can't even imagine how much mail-in stuff they cheat on.
I am a firm believer that SamboBama wasn't re elected in 2012....

the democrats are using Latin American election rules anymore....

and they justify it by claiming "Bush stole the 2000 Election Campaign in Florida"....

Same thing as the Washington Governor's race when Christine Gregore 'won' by 129 votes statewide... after supposedly they found 2000 absentee ballots in the front trunk of a rusted out VW Bug in a Junk Yard somewhere... and somehow amazingly, all 2000 of them cast, were cast for the Democrat....

Then the ACORN election episode....

We haven't had honest election results going on 10 years in this country....and the Democrats excuse is 'the Republicans started it'..

If the Mid Term elections go for the Liberals, you know we have illegal election results... period...
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The government can reprogram your smart phone at will, without your consent and without your knowledge. They can turn it on after you've turned it off. They can track it and you and what you do or say on it.


If you think this is a Liberial or a conservative issue you are confused my friend! Can you say Plutocracy?
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But if you think a conservative win will put the government domestic spying in check, then let me tell you about this Nigerian Prince I met.

A conservative will still be a Republican, and the Republican party is 110% all for domestic spying; just like the Democrat party.



Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
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Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.


Bullshit.

She's just another RNC brand Republican waving the boogeyman flag.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2014/05/13/jodi-ernsts-stunning-iraq-wmd-claim



Ground Truth from Iowa:
Des Moines Register: Do you believe there was actionable intelligence to go into Iraq?
ERNST: I do believe at that time there was. I wasn't at a level to know. Obviously, the president thought there was actionable intelligence. So, as an Iraqi War veteran I stand beside that. And I stand beside every other soldier I served with in believing we were on a clearly defined mission to go into Iraq.
DMR: Even though Saddam Hussein didn't have weapons of mass destruction?
ERNST: We don't know that there were weapons on the ground when we went in. However, I do have reason to believe there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. That was the intelligence that was operated on. I was not at a level to question.
DMR: Are you now?
ERNST: I have reason to believe there was weapons of mass destruction.
[...]
Consider: As recently as 2012, when polled on questions about the Iraq war, a supermajority of Republicans�67 percent�thought that Iraq had WMD when America went in.

Consider also that Ernst's campaign thus far is pure tribalism, ads about the aforementioned barnyard skills and ads about how she keeps a pistol in her purse.

She's an Iraq war veteran; if she wins the primary, she faces a Democratic trial lawyer who did not serve.

Notice how her answer is 90 percent about her own service and patriotism, and how she rejects the idea that her fellow soldiers fought for a lie.
It comes down to how much voter fraud the Dems get away with again. They have been rigging the last two election cycles.
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
It comes down to how much voter fraud the Dems get away with again. They have been rigging the last two election cycles.



Urban Myth used by the Right to stir up fear with the base.....
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by derby_dude
We don't vote electronically here in Montana so I guess I missed your point.

However, there are no Anti-federalists (conservatives) on any ballot in any state that's likely to get voted into office, at least at the federal level. Therefore, the quarter is in play and there won't be any change no matter who wins.





Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.

When she wins, that will put the GOP over the six needed in the Senate.


If she had "impeccable conservative credentials" she would not be running for federal office.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Barak
Originally Posted by bea175
The same old chit will continue either way.

Yes.

Domestic spying isn't a tool for giving Democrats more power. Domestic spying is a tool for giving the government more power.

Hence, if you're a politician you're going to favor it, and if you're not, you're going to oppose it.

The only way this is a Democrat/Republican issue is if a politician of one party can convince you that she is not as much in favor of it as a competing politician of the other party, so that she can be assured of your vote. Once the election is over and the winners are declared, the Democrat-vs-Republican nature of the issue will disappear and it'll go back to being ruler-vs-subject.

You say, "Oh, but my Republican politician would never do that, because she has impeccable conservative bona fides and she says..."?

If you're still stuck in the believing-what-politicians-say stage of your political development, then I don't have much to say to you, except to suggest that it'll probably be more fun to have a tea party with the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny than it will to waste your time talking to grownups about politics.



Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.
When she wins, that will put the GOP over the six needed in the Senate.
That is when things will begin to change.

Joni Ernst record in Iowa is for real. She made a real difference.
Where you are stuck at cannot change those real facts.

Lt. Col. Ernst has always made a difference. She has earned the right to do the same in Washington.
Earned the right to try and with enough help there will be a difference. A change.
I've seen it happen before.


Lt. Col. Ernst will work to end Federalism? That will be something to see if she can pull it off.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Ground Truth from Iowa:
Des Moines Register: Do you believe there was actionable intelligence to go into Iraq?
ERNST: I do believe at that time there was. I wasn't at a level to know. Obviously, the president thought there was actionable intelligence. So, as an Iraqi War veteran I stand beside that. And I stand beside every other soldier I served with in believing we were on a clearly defined mission to go into Iraq.
DMR: Even though Saddam Hussein didn't have weapons of mass destruction?
ERNST: We don't know that there were weapons on the ground when we went in. However, I do have reason to believe there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. That was the intelligence that was operated on. I was not at a level to question.
DMR: Are you now?
ERNST: I have reason to believe there was weapons of mass destruction.
[...]
Consider: As recently as 2012, when polled on questions about the Iraq war, a supermajority of Republicans�67 percent�thought that Iraq had WMD when America went in.

Consider also that Ernst's campaign thus far is pure tribalism, ads about the aforementioned barnyard skills and ads about how she keeps a pistol in her purse.

She's an Iraq war veteran; if she wins the primary, she faces a Democratic trial lawyer who did not serve.

Notice how her answer is 90 percent about her own service and patriotism, and how she rejects the idea that her fellow soldiers fought for a lie.


What the hell are you trying to say?
Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain


All the polls suggest a conservative win in November. People are confident in it.

What candidates running are conservative?
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Barak
Originally Posted by bea175
The same old chit will continue either way.

Yes.

Domestic spying isn't a tool for giving Democrats more power. Domestic spying is a tool for giving the government more power.

Hence, if you're a politician you're going to favor it, and if you're not, you're going to oppose it.

The only way this is a Democrat/Republican issue is if a politician of one party can convince you that she is not as much in favor of it as a competing politician of the other party, so that she can be assured of your vote. Once the election is over and the winners are declared, the Democrat-vs-Republican nature of the issue will disappear and it'll go back to being ruler-vs-subject.

You say, "Oh, but my Republican politician would never do that, because she has impeccable conservative bona fides and she says..."?

If you're still stuck in the believing-what-politicians-say stage of your political development, then I don't have much to say to you, except to suggest that it'll probably be more fun to have a tea party with the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny than it will to waste your time talking to grownups about politics.



Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.
When she wins, that will put the GOP over the six needed in the Senate.
That is when things will begin to change.

Joni Ernst record in Iowa is for real. She made a real difference.
Where you are stuck at cannot change those real facts.

Lt. Col. Ernst has always made a difference. She has earned the right to do the same in Washington.
Earned the right to try and with enough help there will be a difference. A change.
I've seen it happen before.



Both as Montgomery County Auditor and Iowa state senator Joni Ernst worked hard to cut government waste, grow jobs in Iowa and cut taxes.

Her time in the Iowa Senate saw unemployment rate drop 1.6 percent with over 130,000 new jobs.

The biggest Iowa tax cut ever and a $900 million budget deficit turned into into a $1 billion dollar budget surplus.

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU GUYS WANT FROM YOUR STATE POLITICIANS????
Progressives aren't the only possible utopians. just saying.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/democratic-state-senator-sentenced-for-perjury-voter-fraud/

http://gopthedailydose.com/2014/09/...-ayala-arrested-19-voting-fraud-charges/


suck it punk
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
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Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.


Bullshit.

She's just another RNC brand Republican waving the boogeyman flag.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2014/05/13/jodi-ernsts-stunning-iraq-wmd-claim





Maybe. But she was waving it pretty far away from home....while the schitbag opposition was whining about not having towels at the gym in D.C..
Originally Posted by Ringman
As long as you get 108% of a county turning out to vote and 100%
of them voting for the Dems, the conservatives will no longer win. Remember Al Frankin? He lost. But then there were enough votes found in the trunk of someone's car for him to win. Sure I believe all is legal and above board.


I had forgotten about that one...
Originally Posted by Seafire
I am a firm believer that SamboBama wasn't re elected in 2012....

the democrats are using Latin American election rules anymore....

and they justify it by claiming "Bush stole the 2000 Election Campaign in Florida"....

Same thing as the Washington Governor's race when Christine Gregore 'won' by 129 votes statewide... after supposedly they found 2000 absentee ballots in the front trunk of a rusted out VW Bug in a Junk Yard somewhere... and somehow amazingly, all 2000 of them cast, were cast for the Democrat....

Then the ACORN election episode....

We haven't had honest election results going on 10 years in this country....and the Democrats excuse is 'the Republicans started it'..

If the Mid Term elections go for the Liberals, you know we have illegal election results... period...


I had never heard of that Washington Gov race corruption.
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
imo a path has been set, anyone that thinks conservatives (and there's not many of those in the GOP) are gonna make inroads to political power

and then the rest of the nation that is more liberal will jump on board if we just show them how much better our way really is....

hasn't been paying attention

you may very well see a slowing of the tide, if the GOP takes the Senate and retains the house majority.

but there ain't nada much anyone can do to avoid the train wreck that's coming, other than personally prepare your family as best as you can to your abilities.

and as much as so many of us around here hopes the SHTF so that we can rebuild as a conservative nation I don't see it playing out that way.

when there's blood in the streets (if it comes to that) armed gangs in shootouts with LEO

whaddya suppose TPTB are gonna decide what would solve that problem???


did you say gun control/confiscation? I thought so.

folks that think we're gonna right this ship politically are either very optimistic or a lil bit delusional


I agree with this; every jot and tittle. Absolutely.

Every day I do something to ensure the safety of my family. Every day I seek to be more self sufficient to ride out what is coming. You are absolutely spot on: "folks that think we're gonna right this ship politically are either very optimistic or a lil bit delusional"

No scandal, no outrage from this administration shocks me. They are at war with me and it is certainly obvious. They are capable of anything, absolutely anything, right down to herding all the good folks into the camps.

Folks laugh scoff and mock at such talk; go right ahead if so inclined.
Mr. Chamberlain;

In the big picture of all that is happening and what has happened in recent years I think your theory has some merit. Thanks for pointing this out; it is worthy of consideration.
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain

All the polls suggest a conservative win in November. People are confident in it.

What candidates running are conservative?

Yep thats what I figured. Ya know Elizabeth Warren's little toe is more conservative than the whole lot of em running.
Originally Posted by gunner500
Right, an engineered pandemic by obongo and co, ebola purposefully let in, holes in the border, more disease and illegals.

he would like to cause enough civil unrest to declare martial law and appoint himself ruler, funny thing is, he thinks he would survive the attempt.


He might be realizing people would not be to enthusiastic about taking a bullet for him, so the self appointed ruler thing might not be in the cards.
Which he will - with glee...

NWA sez all this total BS just to get a response.. Typical pos troll...
"If the Mid-Terms Go Against Conservatives...."

1) Say goodbye to your guns.

2) ..Be prepared to move to another country.

3) Start or join an underground anarchist movement.


DMc


Interesting how most folks still rely on MSM for their positions politically and socially... even if it's Fox news, Rove, Rush or talk radio.

In today's google world it takes a few minutes to see real world statistics.

The three million touted republicans staying home was really just over two million and what was left out was four and a half million democrats stayed home. Overall voter participation was down 4% from '08 and the repubs were down 1.2%.

Republicans are down to 25% from a high of 37% in '04, democrats are down to 31% from their high in '08 and independents are now at a high of 42%.

Old folks dieing, demographics changing.

Five swing states controlling the presidential election.

Neither party can win the presidency by themselves.

Crossover voting from democrat to repub or visa versa is statistically a nonfactor. The parties at 25% and 31% have been distilled down to their hardest core.

Fraud, voter ID, reorganization of district boundaries.

There are a multitude of real world issues that have to be addressed if we are to ever win another presidential election... but this was the same in '08 and '12 and few were listening.

Most would rather regurgitate the same old mantra they hear on the radio or TV and how we were F'ed by the hot topic of the day. Bitch about a Paul supporter in AZ, Alaska, Montana, Kentucky, Utah, who argue they will stay home... if it wasn't in a swing state it's just semantics and even if it was there wasn't enough stayed home to make a difference.

At the same time you work to change the face of our political future by changing the faces in politics... you better be doing what Randy said and be putting your family in the best position possible, in a hostile climate that may not be reversible.

Kent

That's a good post. The only place that I disagree is that conservatives aren't "staying home" in numbers great enough to make a difference. With 12 million fewer votes being placed than there were 14 years ago, it makes a difference. It's certainly not about Ron Paul though. People just don't trust the government or think their vote makes a difference.
Many of the new independents are conservatives who are sick of the GOP not being conservative enough. So when Rush or Hannity say republicans stayed home, it's really there are less republicans as the numbers indicate. 37% in '04 of registered voters were repubs, 29% in '08, 27% in '12 and polls show only 25% in '14. They may or may not be staying home, they are dieing off or leaving the GOP that's for sure.

Getting a feel for conservatives overall including independents would be a better indicator.

So far the independents are leaning conservative in the polls of '14, same as '10. But we need a three election cycle of turnover to change the face of politics. The opportunity was there in '12 but the GOP played it safe and lost.

I see no movement in the GOP to attack in '16, and if the states take care of business in '14 like they did in the house in '10, we are still in line to lose the nation in '16.

A dynamic candidate for '16 will bring many of the independent conservatives back into the fold, plus money and probably a presidential win.

Will the GOP recognize this...

Kent
The reason people are staying home is there is NO leadership in the Republican Party.

Where are the hearings on Fast-&-furious, Bengazi, IRS, the feds printing money, domestic spying, Gov't purchasing of millions of rounds of ammunition and hundreds of thousands of caskets? WTC-7!!! Media corruption. Unconstitutional immigration tactics, border security, States rights, Impeachment, and the list goes on...

Boehner and McConnell are no different than Reid and Pelosi.



DMc


Dan
Name a real Conservative worth voting for.
McConnel, Boner or that walking dead guy Thad in Miss.?
Plenty of progressives worth voting against.
Originally Posted by wildbill59
Dan
Name a real Conservative worth voting for.
McConnel, Boner or that walking dead guy Thad in Miss.?



My list of real conservatives worth voting for begins with Joni Ernst because Bristoe doesn't like her.

�Bullshit. She's just another RNC brand Republican waving the boogeyman flag.�
Bristoe's quote should be worth a couple of points added to her momentum.

And I found this young lady to add to my list...
�Earlier this week, New Hampshire State Rep. Marilinda Garcia had a debate with incumbent Democratic Congresswoman Annie Kuster on the radio.
Okay, Rep. Kuster declined, but her Republican opponent showed up.
Kuster has yet to hold one town hall event since she her 2012 election win�and it seems she isn�t going to hold any in the last weeks of the the 2014 cycle.�
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suck it punk


My, my, my your vocabulary has grown by huge leaps and bounds!!


URBAN MYTH PERIOD!

Here is another one....BIG FOOT and BIRTHER!

Suckers!
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The reason people are staying home is there is NO leadership in the Republican Party.


Not true!

The GOP has an entire group of far right leaders who are causing the GOP to become a party of insignificance. It is not a lack of leadership but Piss Poor Leadership.
Are you gone dpschit, come November 5th.

Can't imagine why you waste your time here now, much less come the 5th of November.

Your party of idiots, much like yourself,are toast, as you well know.

Have you been working on your resume?
Originally Posted by krp
Interesting how most folks still rely on MSM for their positions politically and socially... even if it's Fox news, Rove, Rush or talk radio.

In today's google world it takes a few minutes to see real world statistics.

The three million touted republicans staying home was really just over two million and what was left out was four and a half million democrats stayed home. Overall voter participation was down 4% from '08 and the repubs were down 1.2%.

Republicans are down to 25% from a high of 37% in '04, democrats are down to 31% from their high in '08 and independents are now at a high of 42%.

Old folks dieing, demographics changing.

Five swing states controlling the presidential election.

Neither party can win the presidency by themselves.

Crossover voting from democrat to repub or visa versa is statistically a nonfactor. The parties at 25% and 31% have been distilled down to their hardest core.

Fraud, voter ID, reorganization of district boundaries.

There are a multitude of real world issues that have to be addressed if we are to ever win another presidential election... but this was the same in '08 and '12 and few were listening.

Most would rather regurgitate the same old mantra they hear on the radio or TV and how we were F'ed by the hot topic of the day. Bitch about a Paul supporter in AZ, Alaska, Montana, Kentucky, Utah, who argue they will stay home... if it wasn't in a swing state it's just semantics and even if it was there wasn't enough stayed home to make a difference.

At the same time you work to change the face of our political future by changing the faces in politics... you better be doing what Randy said and be putting your family in the best position possible, in a hostile climate that may not be reversible.

Kent


Excellent post!
My vote will cancle out yours!

See ya on the 6th of Nov.
Bob's spelling trumps yours.
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
My vote will cancle out yours!

See ya on the 6th of Nov.

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In the midterms?

My word, you truly are illiterate.
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
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suck it punk


My, my, my your vocabulary has grown by huge leaps and bounds!!


URBAN MYTH PERIOD!

Here is another one....BIG FOOT and BIRTHER!

Suckers!


You sound like Bagdhad Bob....

When confronted with evidence your response is... "nuh uh! didn't happen!"

Of course, always with no evidence to support your claim...
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
My vote will cancle out yours!

See ya on the 6th of Nov.


Good, since that removes you as a threat to American's, my vote will mean more. Thanks for playing...
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
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The reason people are staying home is there is NO leadership in the Republican Party.


Not true!

The GOP has an entire group of far right leaders who are causing the GOP to become a party of insignificance. It is not a lack of leadership but Piss Poor Leadership.


And which positions of leadership do these far right guys hold?
You'll be slapped back into reality come November 4th, just watch and see.

Even that idot on MSNBC MR "tingle up my leg" Chrissy Mathews knows what's coming in November.

And Begich is falling further behind in the polls against Sullivan. Getting rid of Begich would make an awesome Christmas present for Alaska.
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
My vote will cancle out yours!

See ya on the 6th of Nov.


Deal! You show up to vote on the 6th and i'll buy you a beer. lol
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And Begich is falling further behind in the polls against Sullivan. Getting rid of Begich would make an awesome Christmas present for Alaska.


Tell me how your guy did at the Kodiak debate? Sullivan is still trying to figger out how he got talked into any debate let alone that one!

I promise not to rub it in too hard come Nov. because I know you are still chapped from that 2012 election.
that's sort of the depressing part


Walt shows his stupidity and his illiteracy here regularly.

he's a tiny minority here, but there are leagues of folks just like him.

and they vote.


McDonalds sells more hamburgers than anyone else, damn they must make the best burger evah???


well according to nwa/logic (how's that for an oxymoron?)
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
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And Begich is falling further behind in the polls against Sullivan. Getting rid of Begich would make an awesome Christmas present for Alaska.


Tell me how your guy did at the Kodiak debate? Sullivan is still trying to figger out how he got talked into any debate let alone that one!

I promise not to rub it in too hard come Nov. because I know you are still chapped from that 2012 election.


Don't know how he did and don't really care, they're all union fisherman anyways so it's expected they will vote for Begich.


See you on the 6th!! Dumbass!! lol
Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
My vote will cancle out yours!

See ya on the 6th of Nov.


Deal! You show up to vote on the 6th and i'll buy you a beer. lol

Special Commie-voting day.
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Don't know how he did and don't really care, they're all union fisherman anyways so it's expected they will vote for Begich.



Union??? Now you have just shown how uninformed you are. Most are/were and will allways be mom and pop opperations who own thier oown boats, nets and vote...But not for Sullivan!

Hell if Sullivan wins we will have elected another Beltway Republican who has moved to Alaska for the free meal! I know that is what you looking for in your next elected official! Can you say Murkowski?
do you stutter when you speak as well?


just wondering if the extra p and o's are representative of that?
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
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Don't know how he did and don't really care, they're all union fisherman anyways so it's expected they will vote for Begich.



Union??? Now you have just shown how uninformed you are. Most are/were and will allways be mom and pop opperations who own thier oown boats, nets and vote...But not for Sullivan!

Hell if Sullivan wins we will have elected another Beltway Republican who has moved to Alaska for the free meal! I know that is what you looking for in your next elected official! Can you say Murkowski?


Like I said dimwit, I could care less about what that group has to say or who they vote for, most of them don't even live in Alaska anyways.

I'd take practically anyone over Begich the weasel.
I'm still waiting for him to backup his claims.

1.) GOP has far right leadership. In what positions?

2.) Voter fraud is a myth. What evidence shows this to be a myth?
I'll help nwa out on this one


voter fraud is a myth


see Chicago, nothing but the truth, the whole truth, as long as it agrees with the machine

having a political discussion with Walt/nwa is like talking to your dog, except that your dog has the capability to understand some of what you say.

ole Walt is still trying to figure why his shoes smell so bad when he puts what he thought was shinola on them.
Originally Posted by HugAJackass
I'm still waiting for him to backup his claims.1.) GOP has far right leadership. In what positions?

2.) Voter fraud is a myth. What evidence shows this to be a myth?


He never backs them up, you should know that by now HAJ.
Oh, I know that.

Furthermore, he knows that.

It's just fun to call him out on it and watch him cower...

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.
When she wins, that will put the GOP over the six needed in the Senate.
That is when things will begin to change.

Joni Ernst record in Iowa is for real. She made a real difference.
Where you are stuck at cannot change those real facts.

Lt. Col. Ernst has always made a difference. She has earned the right to do the same in Washington.
Earned the right to try and with enough help there will be a difference. A change.
I've seen it happen before.

You're adorable.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
WHAT THE HELL DO YOU GUYS WANT FROM YOUR STATE POLITICIANS????

At the least, I want them to get out of my way and leave me the heck alone.

Optimally, I want them to get real jobs producing real value and stop extorting me for a living.
Originally Posted by Barak
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Iowa State Sen. Joni Ernst is ahead in her polls and she has impeccable conservative credentials.
When she wins, that will put the GOP over the six needed in the Senate.
That is when things will begin to change.

Joni Ernst record in Iowa is for real. She made a real difference.
Where you are stuck at cannot change those real facts.

Lt. Col. Ernst has always made a difference. She has earned the right to do the same in Washington.
Earned the right to try and with enough help there will be a difference. A change.
I've seen it happen before.

You're adorable.


I am right.
That's what I mean. After all this, still willing to put your faith in politicians. The indomitable human...ah...something.
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