What the heck is going on up there? We know you don't have any more, or worse, thugs living there than any other urban areas, and it ain't like "students" don't get themselves shot everywhere else. _____
High school student, 18, dead after off-duty St Louis police officer shot at him 17 times - just 10 miles from where Michael Brown was killed
An off-duty officer, who has not been identified, shot and killed high school student Vonderrit Myers Jr. last night in Shaw, Missouri Myers and two other men had fled when they saw the officer approach them and a chase and a scuffle ensued, police said Myers shot at the officer three times before the cop pulled out his own gun and shot at the teenager 17 times - killing him, police said But his family members insist the teenager was unarmed and said: 'It's like Michael Brown all over again'
An 18-year-old man has died after an off-duty police officer shot at him 17 times - just miles from where unarmed teen Michael Brown was gunned down by a cop in August.
Police said that Vonderrit Myers Jr. first opened fire on the unidentified 32-year-old officer in Shaw, Missouri, which is less than 10 miles from Ferguson, where Brown was shot dead on August 9.
The officer, who is a six-year veteran of the force, was in a car working a secondary job for a private security company when he saw three males in the street, St Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said in an early-morning press conference.
As he approached them, one of them started to run away, so the officer did a U-turn and then all three ran, Dotson said, the St Louis Post-Dispatch reported.
The officer jumped out of his car and chased them on foot before getting into a scuffle with Myers, who then reached for his gun, Dotson said.
Myers shot at least three times at the officer, who then returned fire - and when the teenager tried to fire again, his gun jammed, Dotson said.
The officer, a white male, then fired 17 times at the teenager - but it is not yet known how many times he was struck. He died from his injuries.
Police recovered a 9mm Ruger at the scene, he said.
Dotson said that the 18-year-old was 'no stranger to law enforcement', the St Louis Post-Dispatch reported.
His family said he was still in high school and disputed police claims that he was armed.
'He was unarmed,' said his cousin, Teyonna Myers, to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. 'He had a sandwich in his hand, and they thought it was a gun. It�s like Michael Brown all over again.'
The boy's uncle, Jackie Williams, also says he is not buying the story being told by police.
'My nephew was coming out of a store from purchasing a sandwich. Security was supposedly searching for someone else. They Tased him,' Williams said.
'I don�t know how this happened, but they went off and shot him 16 times. That�s outright murder.'
Officers are claiming they recovered a gun at the scene and that the officer did not have a Taser.
Another man, Lavell Boyd, who lives in the neighborhood, claimed to hear as many as 15 shots fired.
'When I pulled up I saw the cop standing over him [Myers] then he pointed the gun at everyone else telling everyone to get back while he was searching for another clip,' Boyd said.
It has been reported that the officer was not harmed.
This comes just days after St. Louis Cardinals fans were seen screaming racial insults at protesters in the city.
David Carson, a photographer for the Post-Dispatch, reports that protesters are already filling the streets near where the shooting happened and have been chanting 'Black lives matter.'
Some also vandalized a police SUV as they chanted 'F*** the police.'
High school student, 18, dead after off-duty St Louis police officer shot at him 17 times - just 10 miles from where Michael Brown was killed
Ten miles is a huge distance in an urban area. Maybe it was initially related and maybe it was just another gang/thug thing. It's not like St. Louis metro is Cut n' Shoot, Texas.
High school student, 18, dead after off-duty St Louis police officer shot at him 17 times - just 10 miles from where Michael Brown was killed
Ten miles is a huge distance in an urban area. Maybe it was initially related and maybe it was just another gang/thug thing. It's not like St. Louis metro is Cut n' Shoot, Texas.
So, what you're saying is that the media is the difference?
Not so big a surprise or big question dd.. Having been shot at 3 times from fairly close range and having likely never fired a shot in anger in his life, total self preservation mode kicked in and 17 rounds out lickety split.
Just don't seem fair does it? Bad guy only gets to shoot three times and the cop gets to shoot 17.
Didn't say anything of the sort. 17 shots to take down a bad guy is piss poor shooting. That's a hell of a lot of shots flying around a heavily pack community. Let a civilian do it and said civilian would be in jail for a very long time.
Didn't say anything of the sort. 17 shots to take down a bad guy is piss poor shooting. That's a hell of a lot of shots flying around a heavily pack community. Let a civilian do it and said civilian would be in jail for a very long time.
Best pack up your vagina and head east! 'Dem boys need instruction!
It doesn't matter what a young, criminal black male does... His family will claim he's just an innocent boy, and a Dindu Nuffin.
Even when they have the 9mm and spent shell cases at the scene.
They are not looking for facts. They are looking for an excuse to [bleep]... AND they want to make the consequences of even challenging what a black person does so dire that they are nevermore challenged.
High school student, 18, dead after off-duty St Louis police officer shot at him 17 times - just 10 miles from where Michael Brown was killed
Ten miles is a huge distance in an urban area. Maybe it was initially related and maybe it was just another gang/thug thing. It's not like St. Louis metro is Cut n' Shoot, Texas.
So, what you're saying is that the media is the difference?
The media made a huge difference in the Zimmerman case also. Details like this and the tone set by commentary matter. I can drive ten miles in ten minutes from my house and be almost to the courthouse. The same ten miles in Kansas City or Tulsa could take a half hour easily. You could traverse several neighborhoods. You and I both know a mile in the city can make a vast difference in the neighborhood and its makeup. That's what I'm saying.
Not so big a surprise or big question dd.. Having been shot at 3 times from fairly close range and having likely never fired a shot in anger in his life, total self preservation mode kicked in and 17 rounds out lickety split.
That I can understand. I had a similar situation in the military fortunately, it was a training mission so no one hurt. I sure got reamed out for it. 17 rounds flying around a heavily pack community is unacceptable for the police or a civilian.
It's amazing how fast you can "empty" a firearm when your in a deadly force encounter!! Physiological changes occur in "fight or flight" situations like audible exclusion, tunnel vision, shallow breathing, and loss of fine motor skills, Time slows or speeds up ect. People who have never have experienced this usually can't understand why someone empty's a magazine or believes malice is at play?
Agreed, the cop should only be allowed to fire as many shots as were fired at him. Perp fired 3, didn't hit cop, cop fires 3 in return. Cop can't fire anymore rounds till perp fires more.
Okay, I've condensed this to the point that it is obvious that the media is purposely attempting to aggravate race relations in the area. Why? Is it to just sell news or something else?
Okay, I've condensed this to the point that it is obvious that the media is purposely attempting to aggravate race relations in the area. Why? Is it to just sell news or something else?
They want their wives and daughters to have black babies. White guilt runs deep in them.
Okay, I've condensed this to the point that it is obvious that the media is purposely attempting to aggravate race relations in the area. Why? Is it to just sell news or something else?
Okay, I've condensed this to the point that it is obvious that the media is purposely attempting to aggravate race relations in the area. Why? Is it to just sell news or something else?
That and to advance their socialist agenda of racism in America.
Unfortunately, the bad azz black guys are making it tough for the good black guys and there are many.
Okay, I've condensed this to the point that it is obvious that the media is purposely attempting to aggravate race relations in the area. Why? Is it to just sell news or something else?
I dunno Pat. The contingent causing all the problem ordinarily doesn't do a lot of reading. It seems the liberal press, goaded on by the Obama administration wants the Racial Divisiveness Clock turned back 60 years.The ruse, at least on me, is working. And on your question as to why the youth only got off three shots. I can only guess. He was a good boy. He wasn't doing nuffin except following the guidelines of the proposed laws for low-cap magazines.
As many as it takes. I had a friend who tried to arrest a crazy Haitian one night. When he knocked on the door, the Haitian answered it with a machete in his hand. Before he could react, the Haitian laid him open from temple to jawbone, and drew back for another swing. Porter fired 6 shots from his Glock 21, 5 of which hit the crazy bas*tard center mass. The Haitian never cut anyone else, and nobody ever questioned him firing 6 rounds.
That's a point that NEEDS to be discussed, if the fat cretinous combat pistol instructor can STFU for a minute or two.
I noted yesterday, and earlier this AM that EVERY damned article regarding that area appears to be biased in the direction of AGITATING, not cover actual fact.
I'm really pizzed at .J.J. starting his chit about the eboloid Liberian being "Dissed".
As many as it takes. I had a friend who tried to arrest a crazy Haitian one night. When he knocked on the door, the Haitian answered it with a machete in his hand. Before he could react, the Haitian laid him open from temple to jawbone, and drew back for another swing. Porter fired 6 shots from his Glock 21, 5 of which hit the crazy bas*tard center mass. The Haitian never cut anyone else, and nobody ever questioned him firing 6 rounds.
Neither would I. However, a civilian would be seriously questioned why he fired six shots and only five hit the target.
That's a point that NEEDS to be discussed, if the fat cretinous combat pistol instructor can STFU for a minute or two.
I noted yesterday, and earlier this AM that EVERY damned article regarding that area appears to be biased in the direction of AGITATING, not cover actual fact.
I'm really pizzed at .J.J. starting his chit about the eboloid Liberian being "Dissed".
We need to get a handle on this media BS.
GTC
Its been discussed, re-discussed and cussed on here. Many, such as myself, have been called racist for even broaching the topic...not on Dem Underground, but right here. The very suggestion that one race is favored over another by the media surely means that the suggester is himself racially biased unless the suggester is suggesting that racial bias is "good" as long as its directed at the right group.
Just yesterday I was looking at a news article in my AO about a guy who was just arraigned for the killing of a woman and her three kids. I wondered to myself what kind of guy could do such a thing. A fairly young woman...maybe thirty at most, with three kids the oldest of which couldn't have been over fifth grade. Raped her and then murdered her and the three kids. What manner of man can do such a thing? The possible answer popped into my head and I had to click on the expanded article to see if said possibility was right. It was. He was a Negro. The woman was white and the children were of mixed race.
Maybe Zimmerman should start conducting class. He's on his back getting his head beat to a pulp but manages to dig out his Kel Tec and fire ONE shot. One shot from his measly 9mm and that's all it took. One very dead kneegrow.
People who have never had shots fired at them have no idea.
Originally Posted by EvilTwin
Not so big a surprise or big question dd.. Having been shot at 3 times from fairly close range and having likely never fired a shot in anger in his life, total self preservation mode kicked in and 17 rounds out lickety split.
Firepower superiority means just that! Derby, you do remember that from basic training, don't you?
Actually, I think things have changed in that regard. Back in my day I got reamed out for two things: failure to identify my target and fire discipline. Apparently, that isn't taught today.
I was fortunate or unfortunate depending on one's outlook to have all instructors from Airborne, Ranger, or Special Forces.
And no I wasn't in any of those units that just happened to be the background of the instructors.
I'm done with this thread but it did help me to put a lot more people on ignore.
That's a point that NEEDS to be discussed, if the fat cretinous combat pistol instructor can STFU for a minute or two.
I noted yesterday, and earlier this AM that EVERY damned article regarding that area appears to be biased in the direction of AGITATING, not cover actual fact.
I'm really pizzed at .J.J. starting his chit about the eboloid Liberian being "Dissed".
We need to get a handle on this media BS.
GTC
Its been discussed, re-discussed and cussed on here. Many, such as myself, have been called racist for even broaching the topic...not on Dem Underground, but right here. The very suggestion that one race is favored over another by the media surely means that the suggester is himself racially biased unless the suggester is suggesting that racial bias is "good" as long as its directed at the right group.
Just yesterday I was looking at a news article in my AO about a guy who was just arraigned for the killing of a woman and her three kids. I wondered to myself what kind of guy could do such a thing. A fairly young woman...maybe thirty at most, with three kids the oldest of which couldn't have been over fifth grade. Raped her and then murdered her and the three kids. What manner of man can do such a thing? The possible answer popped into my head and I had to click on the expanded article to see if said possibility was right. It was. He was a Negro. The woman was white and the children were of mixed race.
I knew her. Know her family. What's the old saying, if you sleep with dogs you'll catch fleas? When you live by the bad boy , you die by the bad boy.
In the 60's it was taught that if you put more on Charlie than Charlie put on you, chances are good that you would win the firefight. Same rule applies today even though the rules of engagement have changed... and not for the better.
There has been 9 black men shot by other black men in the St. Louis area since the August 9th shooting of Michael Brown. Interesting enough, there has been NO crowds or protests about those 9 shootings....
Now take a look at the number of Chicago black on black shootings... again, where's the outrage??
Actually, I think things have changed in that regard. Back in my day I got reamed out for two things: failure to identify my target and fire discipline. Apparently, that isn't taught today.
I was fortunate or unfortunate depending on one's outlook to have all instructors from Airborne, Ranger, or Special Forces.
And no I wasn't in any of those units that just happened to be the background of the instructors.
I'm done with this thread but it did help me to put a lot more people on ignore.
I'll even amend the question. Derby (Tim, I believe it is, actually), how many times have you either 1) been shot at, or 2) been in an actual physical battle for your life that required you to fire rounds in defense?
I'll even amend the question. Derby (Tim, I believe it is, actually), how many times have you either 1) been shot at, or 2) been in an actual physical battle for your life that required you to fire rounds in defense?
Okay, I've condensed this to the point that it is obvious that the media is purposely attempting to aggravate race relations in the area. Why? Is it to just sell news or something else?
Excellent question. In my opinion, it is being done in large part to gin up the base for the upcoming election cycle.
Please have dogs, water hoses and roof top shooters available for next scheduled riot. Read the riot act once and show these people their unacceptable behavior will not tolerated.
A case of Buffalo Trace says the sandwich test positive for gun shot residue..
Please have dogs, water hoses and roof top shooters available for next scheduled riot. Read the riot act once and show these people their unacceptable behavior will not tolerated.
A case of Buffalo Trace says the sandwich test positive for gun shot residue..
The perps hand and gun will too, which is why I think this one will go nowhere. Just a lot of posturing, as on the video. The guy did shoot after all.
Not so big a surprise or big question dd.. Having been shot at 3 times from fairly close range and having likely never fired a shot in anger in his life, total self preservation mode kicked in and 17 rounds out lickety split.
That I can understand. I had a similar situation in the military fortunately, it was a training mission so no one hurt. I sure got reamed out for it. 17 rounds flying around a heavily pack community is unacceptable for the police or a civilian.
My son lives in SL and says the Ferguson thing has been way overblown by the media. Seems to be isolated to a very limited area and not involving many people.
I was taught one thing during training in 101st Airborne and when training you answered every thing in these words , to kill without mercy. You didn't stop shooting or fighting until the threat was neutralized. If being shot at by one of these monkeys and it takes 17 shots to win the fight then fire 18 just to be on the safe side. Do what it takes to stay alive and to hell with the collateral damage.
Okay, I've condensed this to the point that it is obvious that the media is purposely attempting to aggravate race relations in the area. Why? Is it to just sell news or something else?
You have to remember it's an election year. The progressive fascists need to make blacks angry enough to go to the voter booth. It worked for them in 2012 were they persecuted Zimmerman, lied about the case and Tyrant Obama the Liar has record turnout.
"The teen was �no stranger to law enforcement,� according to Col. Dotson, who said that even in the short time the teen had been an adult, he had accumulated a police record.
Mr. Myers was awaiting trial for a felony charge of carrying a concealed weapon, according to documents from the City of St. Louis Circuit Attorney�s Office. In June he had been a passenger in a vehicle chased by police. When the vehicle stopped, Mr. Myers allegedly ran from the officer and, while being chased, allegedly threw a concealed .380-caliber pistol into a sewer. The pistol was later recovered, the report said."
schithead caught 5-7 rounds. the shaw neighborhood is a nicer part of st louis city that has been on revitalize. folks just looking for a reason. alot of the ferguson protesters are white liberals
lmfao
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