Two tablespoons of household bleach in 8 oz. of water poured down the throat or squirted down the throat with a syringe.

Follow up in 15-30 minutes with a dose of Pepto Bismal.

It has worked 100% of the time for me with young dogs that are otherwise healthy.

Parvo should be confirmed by bloody diarrhea and its unique odor before administering the bleach.

Be nice if Ebola was killed as easily.

What you did isn't proof of anything even remotely related to any "cure"

I suspect the dogs never had Parvo to begin with, or would have survived without your treatment

...."confirmed by bloody diarrhea and unique odor."

Good God. Or maybe whipworms, coccidia and about 100 other possibilities.

That big Injun on Yukon Men said he cures parvo in his sled dogs with bleach.
That's good enough for me.

And yet non of the Vets in the whole world have been able to figure it out

Get real

It's OBVIOUS you can't read or never smelled a dog with Parvo.

Parvo is a virus and it's spread through the body, not just in the digestive system. The bleach can't possibly get at it without killing a lot of things in there that you don't want killed. The dog has enough problems without being poisoned, too.

It's obvious you're an idiot.

But, they did teach me to read in College of Veterinary Medicine.

Good luck to you..... and your pets.

It was a joke, lighten up dumb ass.

Sweet Jesus, one of the dumbest things I have read on here that didn't come from TRH.

90% mortality rate with parvo. A little higher than ebola.

Nope
Jokes are funny

Your comment was a lot like many SERIOUS comments made on the internet, with no indication it wasn't serious.

Learn to tell a joke and maybe someone will laugh next time

Don't be so quick to judge,,,, no doubt TRH will be along shortly to confirm.

Not if you make em drink bleach, that'll fix em right up.

I've told two vets -NOT SMALL ANIMAL DOCTORS [there's a big difference] - and both said the same thing:

They would never recommend it, but would definitely use it if their personal dog got Parvo.

The "treatment" has been around [at least] since a big Parvo outbreak in Texas in the 'sixties. Vets advised disinfecting with bleach to avoid spreading the virus to other dogs. An old Houndman in Central Texas figured if bleach killed the virus OUTSIDE the animal, it ought to do it inside the stomach as well.

You really could benefit from learning which posters talk out their ass, or post straight from google, and those of us who post from experience.

I knew it was a joke no smiley face required. Just as I know you are.

I'm starting to suspect you're a little sweet on me.

Sorry,,, I forgot the obligatory happy faces required for hillbilly's.


Oh,,, and here's the one I owe you from my original comment.



And another just to show there's no hard feelings.

I already know which ones fit that description
It doesn't change anything I said at all

And THAT'S why I tried it. When the vets come up with a viable treatment plan, I'll listen. In fact, Arch Andrews of Archer County was my vet at the time, and he remembered the bleach deal from the 'sixties when he was at TAMU.

I watched 3 good young dogs die when I was told about the bleach by a fellow breeder. I saved the last three with NO damage from the bleach.

I've spread the word and have seen it work time and again.

I take it you haven't treated Parvo with bleach but you know it won't work.

One of Grandads cows was down with something or other and we couldn't get her up. The Ag teacher said on the phone to give her a pint of coal oil.

Well, Grandad figured if a pint would help a quart would cure so my cousins and I pulled her head up and back as the cider bottle drained it's contents down her gullet.

A few moments later she damned sure jumped up. I wish I knew if she would have survived the pint.

I have seen the effects of Parvo run through 100's of miles of country in any direction. Seen it take out entire coyote offspring. Totally. No pups left. Domestic dog pups have the same prognosis.

Basically, if you have young canines, they are going to die, with a pretty fair certainty.

If I knew my pups had Parvo, and I heard of this from an old dog man with a lifetime of experience that there was a chance to save them this way, I would try it... I know the outcome otherwise.

I have an 82 year old patient who went partially blind form an initial flare up of MS caused optic neuropathy which left partial optic atrophy in each eye many years ago.

She was confirmed buy neurologists in major medical centers in Dallas to have all tests positive in making the Dx of MS. A neurologist there devised a treatment program of IV folic acid repeated frequently, IIRC.

A prominent West Texas Physician performed the treatments and she is well and alive now with for all practical purposes having been cured of MS.

Unfortunately, by the time I started seeing her the Dr who had given her the treatments, 45 years ago, had passed away and I was unable to get her records.

Of course the neurologist from Dallas had passed many years before.

It's disturbing to think no one else picked up on this treatment, though IIRC her docs had reported on the cure or miracle.

She remains quite lucid as to the frequency of her previous IV treatments and looks to be about 70 years of age.

Are you sure it cured them.?

Maybe the dogs were just dreading a 2nd dose and decided to get their $&!# in order....

This thread is a prime example of the decline in the quality of conversation around this 'fire since it was first kindled. For a long time a man could relate his EXPERIENCES about most anything, and others could report different outcomes from the same experience.

But we didn't have idiots with no manners who claimed a man hadn't seen what he saw, or do what he did.

An exception was made for stories that defied all physical laws, like the infamous "spinning on the ground bullet story".

you guys know there's a vaccine for this, right?

You did it, you saw it , but you misinterpreted the results

The Vets both told you:



If they REALLY believed it would work, they'd tell the whole world.

My grandad suffered for years before he died while suffering a disease which has caused untold misery for millions and which supposedly didn't exist before about 1985 according to diagnostic history. By the grace of God it was discovered and thus I was saved from the devastating effects of the chronic stomach infection know known as Helicobacter Pylori gastritis.

That is inflamed guts from a bacterial infection that had my Grandad drinking Mylanta by the bottles, until he died.

Years later and with blocked guts and no BM for a week the dx and tx saved me from a life of the same misery, thanks to one dr the world tried to stifle and owes a debt of gratitude.

I often wonder if closed minds and fear of ridicule has prevented the developments of many other medical problems, especially one called MS.

Actually not. They have to worry about a lawsuit following if it doesn't work out well, which is why they stick to prescribing treatments that are widely accepted in their field.

This, in spades. We treat many diseases successfully with drugs approved for other conditions.

One of my fears with respect to O care is that drs will be reigned in and only allowed to treat with "approved" drugs.

For instance, bacterial corneal infections (bacterial keratitis) are typically treated with the best topical ocular antibiotics which have only been cleared for bacterial CONJUNCTIVITIS (not clear, thumbnail, 0.7 mm thick cornea) , which is a very uncomfortable debilitating ocular condition which is not typically blinding and which is typically self limiting- meaning, if you have an intact immune system you will develop an adequate immune response to defeat the infection and recover on your own.

Otoh, bacterial keratitis can be a blinding infection of the cornea which can perforate an eye and cause it to be lost. Btw, it can be interesting to goog 'bacterial corneal ulcers'.

A corneal infection with Pseudomonas Aeruginosa can blind an eye in 24 hours. All meds "approved" for TX of corneal ulcers are old meds and not the best antibiotics of choice to fight such infections. Getting FDA approval for treating those ulcers is much more rigorous and much more expensive so drug companies forgo the formalities and we risk our necks treating such infections with the best, newest, most drug resistant antibiotics which have only been ok'd for bacterial CONJUNCTIVITIS, not KERATITIS.

Now, what happens when despite your best efforts and use of the best ABs an eye is still lost becsuse treatment is started late? (Because the patient waited around).

How would you like to go to court and the lawyer suing your ass shows the jury you were not using a drug FDA freaking approved for bacterial corneal ulcers and you were ONLY treating with a drug approved for bacterial conjunctivitis?

I'll tell you what you do. You evaluate the ulcer size, depth, and location (central ulcers leave corneal scars which results in permanent vision loss to some degree or other).

You decide if you want to gamble for $150 that you can treat and cure the condition with no resultant visual loss (small, peripheral ulcer). Then you can start treatment to try and help the pt. We used to also have pharmacies with a compounding lab make up concentrated (strong) AB eye gtts that are not available commercially. I like ordering concentrated tobramycin (it is quite effective in killing P. Aeruginosa which can destroy an eye before you can get culture and sensitivity results- which, btw are a big patient expense required to protect drs from lawyers in court- if you dont stop the disease before the culture comes back the eye is lost anyway kind of deal, but dont go to court without being able to show you took a culture, sent the patient to the hospital with it and ordered a sensitivity a for a few hundred measley bucks) along with commercial Vigamox rotating gtts every 15 min for three hours to start.

Now, because of .gov and lawyers there are essentially no pharmacies taking the risk of formulating especially strong ABs for drs, which increases the risk for me in not being able to intervene and prevent vision loss.

With respect to dealing with advanced disease, is it best to start treatment or just get the patient an appt in a few weeks (post Ocare) at Texas Tech medical school in Lubbock?

Well, the jury is still out on that one.

If it worked, that's not a problem

They would run tests and PROVE it works, rather than just doing it and deciding since the dogs didn't die, it "must have cured them"

Reality is you can't cure a viral disease by drinking Clorox, and they knew that.

Likely they agreed just to end the conversation

Grave diggers were once killed as heretics.

Bleach would have cured that labeling.

There wasn't at the time. I haven't bred dogs in the last several years so I don't keep up with stuff for them.

I believe Gene. We didnt use bleach, but we cured a pup that schit all over the place for a day, stank like hell, and the next day he just laid there breathing real short and slow. Wouldnt move his eyes, just stared straight. My ex called this place out west selling Parvaid or something like that. Cost $50, but wouldnt get there for 4 days. The lady on the phone said buy garlic, echinacea, and some other crap I cant remember.

The ex went down to Riteaid and bought the stuff, cooked it up on the stove and fed it to the pup througer dropper. Til we got that Parvaid stuff in the mail the pup was up running around like nothing happened. Was still slow eatin for about a week but he made it through just fine. Ex's nephew and the one neighbor got this pups brothers/sisters and they all died from Parvo. We had to try somethin cause the local vet said it would cost hundreds with no guarantee it would work.

If those herbs and crap worked, im sure the bleach will.

There's more than one vaccination as well. There are several different strains of Parvo, and even though the more common may have been vaccinated for, they can still get the other strains of the virus. To be mostly protected, I think they need 3 strains vaccinated against.

You start by vaccinating the pregnant bitch.

You must think the other readers are as dumb as you..... they read my entire post, not the part you highlighted. THEY WOULD USE IT ON THEIR OWN PETS.

And many knew that the IVOMEC for cattle that we injected at one cc per 100 lbs bodyweight each month was effective against heartworms and controlled ticks and fleas, but until Heartguard was approved, they mostly kept silent.

Except Arch Andrews. He had a farmer call me one time about a case of mange he had in some Rat Terriers. Arch couldn't tell him to use the same IVOMEC that he used on his cows, but knew that I would.

The mange cleared right up and the guy gave my daughter one of the pups.

A lot of Small Animal Doctors know that if they diagnose ANY case of diarrhea as "possibly Parvo", they have a license to steal. If it's not, and the dog recovers, they're a hero. If the dog dies, several dollars later, well, that's just to be expected.

Doc....... you are arguing waaaay beneath your station with this guy.

The point remains you really have no proof it cured anything and it's all anecdotal internet babble without a lot more evidence.

If you want to give your dogs a poison, and pretend it cures them, it's fine by me

It's funny you should say that, since you posted this exact same topic 10 years ago, and most people told you then it wouldn't work



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You log off the goddamm innanet, turn off Lou Dabbs, don't go plinking and get your butt to work taking care of the litter. Hopefully theyre weaned.

I have had 3 litters contract Parvo. All from friggin "looky-loos" handling my pups and visiting multiple litters bringing the virus to my litter. All my experiences were before the vaccines were widely available.

It's five to seven days of round the clock keeping pups swaddled in cloth, scrubbing diarrhea with bleach. Pedialyte and an eye dropper non-stop. All you can get the pups to hold.

My success rate was usually only 1-2 pups out of 8.

YMMV

I was so riled up over our resident rabble rousers that I erred in this post.

Of course we had vaccines. I ordered the Seven Way from KV VET SUPPLY and it was shipped in via Next Day Air with dry ice. All the pregnant bitches got it prior to whelping and the pups at weaning.

We were told that pups "outgrow" the immunity every 2 to 3 weeks until they are 4 to 6 months old. Don't know if that's true, but my dogs WERE vaccinated.

I lived a long way from any neighbors and never hunted with anyone else, so I've never figured where the virus came from. There are a lot of similar stories which led to the idea that the virus can be carried in the wind.

I personally doubt that.

Since when is bleach a "poison" ?

Don't answer that, please.

Just go away.

Late to this thread but growing up on a farm, I know that lots of things work that you would not expect. Bleach on a wasp sting will stop the swelling and the pain and was always used by my mother for such. It is also good to put on chiggers when you get them. Personally, I trust old cattle and dog men more than Vets, unless you need an operation performed. The main problem with the ones not Vets, is they can't get the medical supplies that they want. I am not specifically knocking Vets but even MD's can't help you most times unless you tell them what you have. I could cure myself on most things if the drug store would sell me the medicine without a prescription. Now I think there is a place for both MD's and Vets but it should not be in small everyday things that most could do themselves if given a chance. If I have a sick dog that I think is Parvo, I will try Gene's cure, if I can remember it. miles

Bleach has always been a poison. A poison is anything that can cause harm to an organism and bleach, in large quantities, causes lots of harm. Here are some of the symptoms:

Symptoms of sodium hypochlorite poisoning may include:

Airways and lungs
Coughing (from the fumes)

Eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and throat
Burning, red eyes
Gagging sensation
Pain in the mouth
Pain in the throat
Possible burns on esophagus

Heart and blood vessels
Chest pain
Low blood pressure
Slow heartbeat
Shock

Nervous system
Delirium
Coma

Skin
Irritation of the exposed area
Burns
Blistering

Stomach and intestines
Stomach or abdominal pain
Vomiting

"cause harm to an organism".

That's what needs to be done to the virus, ain't it?

Your point is taken, which is why I cautioned to make sure you are dealing with Parvo before trying the bleach remedy.

And......... don't most folks drink "bleach" everyday if they use "city water"?

We use Clorox bleach in our dug well. Tastes and smells a little bleachy for a few days, but it sure kills any of the bugs from spring run off. Never killed me yet, or even made me ill.

Quick solution to your remedies.... "Try it on Yourself First"!

Geezus freakin crist!


Phil

Putting a little bleach in chickens' drinking water is also an old remedy for various conditions they suffer from. While I've never done that myself, I do use it to periodically super-chlorinate their drinker, but only overnight when they don't have access to it, and I change it out to fresh water before I let them loose again in the morning.

A drop or two in a gallon of water.... will disinfect.

Phil

Its a matter of concentration. The OP was for 2 Tb in 8 oz. That's some pretty strong stuff. To disinfect a well, city water, etc, a concentration of a tiny fraction of that is enough. For years, hikers have used 1 or 2 drops in a quart canteen. It would be a much more popular method if it didn't taste so nasty. I've used 1/4 cup (4 Tb) to kill the algae in a 50 gal stock tank.

IIRC it takes 8 gtts (possibly 16).

Sounds like it may work in getting rid of Ebola in Afreaka.

The Clorox website has instructions on how to properly purify water with clorox bleach.

https://www.clorox.com/dr-laundry/disaster-preparedness-purifying-water/


A bottle of Clorox should be part of every good disaster preparedness kit.

I keep smaller bottles of clorox in my tornado BOB, fire BOB, riot BOB, national insurrection BOB, and especially the zombie apocalypse BOB.

I've watched pups die from parvo, only had one survive - and I can't remember what treatment(s) we used with him. Like several others, if I had to deal with that disease again, I would be willing to give the bleach treatment a try.

I've heard a rumor....but you know those damned vets Matt!

cain't be trusted, they'll sell you snake oil and bed yer women.

only reason they didn't become lawyers is cause they stayed in school too long chasing co'eds. And the universities declared them too smart to be lawyers.

You sir, are a liar. You misquoted the OP by leaving out those same vets said they would use the cure if it was their dog. Anyone with a functioning brain would easily understand why they would not professionally recommend it without reservation to their entire practice, though I'm sure there are patients with whom they would share it, with caveats.

Why are you always so rude, contrary, and mean-spirited? I pity anyone whose posts always display how much their life must suck. Learn to get along or move along.

Good info there. I did not know the recommendation is to use bleach that was purchased in the last 4 months. I didn't know it had such a short shelf life.

Bob

Over the years, I've had three pups come down with parvo. (Yes they were all vaccinated) two died & the last one survived because I took him to the vet & had him hooked up to an IV & was given meds. It was expensive & the vet only gave him a 50/50 chance at surviving.

Since this topic came up, I've been looking through different websites & my take on it is that for the people who've tried the bleach method, it works, at a much higher rate than 50/50 and also much quicker ...One breeder that stood out (in my mind) used a mix of 1 teaspoon per 8 oz. of water. I'm all for vaccinations, but if that chit gets past that, I'll be trying the bleach treatment...parvo is nasty chit...kind of like ebola for dogs.

What, exactly, is the difference? Here in Idaho you can't doctor small animals (for a fee) unless you're a licensed vet.

Yeah, right, and give my dog Autism.... No thanks

A Vet who's practice consists primarily of treating farm animals learns that cost effectiveness is always a consideration. They generally don't establish themselves in cities.


A Vet who's practice is mostly with pets learns real quick that the animal don't write the check, so he's more "empathetic" than "pragmatic". And he can locate anywhere.

Only a son of a bitch is at risk for Parvo so I can't try it on myself.

You, on the other hand, strike me as one at risk. Give the bleach a try when you catch it.

Snyper
But there is no money in that solution either for the Vets., or big Pharma. so why would they accept it!!! Just saying. Cheers NC

I think thats a fairly valid observation..Difference really comes down to how (generally) farmers and pet owners view the their animals..

Hey we should try this bleach method on unruly nursing home patients. Those that keep shtting the bed, dose em up purex, hell but 20 Mule Team in their grits too. Hey we seen it on the innanet.

I think you said a cup per half gallon, right?

LOL
Read the label and get back to us

I didn't "misquote" him, since what I posted is what he said

As to "rude, contrary, mean spirited", I haven't called anyone names or hurled any insults, as the OP has

Why aren't you nagging at him too?

I pointed out that three puppies doesn't prove what the OP is claiming


LOL
No thank you

(Is that polite enough for you?)

If not, I don't much care, since you're not forced to read anything I post, and I have no obligation to please you

Sure there is, since they can mix the formula, sell it, and don't have to tell anyone the ingredients.

In the end it all comes back to the fact that drinking Cloroz has never been proven to kill Parvo

Even when used to disinfect surfaces it has to soak for 10 minutes

There is no doubt it works. I treat many hog dogs, deer dogs, cattle, horses and etc in our area free of charge for those who know me and can't afford a vets lunatic costs these days... Cuts, tears, eyes, broken bones viruses etc.. I firmly agree with Curdog the bleach treatment works.. Note ..use one tablespoon in 8 oz of distilled water with a large dropper to force through esophagus, 15 minutes, one table spoon of Pepto to follow..

on another note.. Pepto Bismo is much better for H Pylori than the full trifacto of antibiotics given for such cases..

I was just reading on another forum where several people "firmly agreed" you can cure Ebola by taking Vitamin C, and the reason the Dr's didn't tell anyone is because the Govt wants to reduce the world population

I have equal faith in their beliefs

I recall when my MIL had undergone breast cancer surgery in a San Francisco hospital in 1984 she became infected with the bacteria Serratia marcescens (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21976608). The bacteria once thought benign was used by the U.S. Navy in bacteriological warfare agent dispersal testing. The test was titled Operation Sea Spray involving bursting balloons containing Serratia marcescens over the San Francisco Bay Area on September 26 and 27 1950. By September 29 the bacteria began causing severe urinary tract infections of hospitalized patients in the test area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serratia_marcescens The pertinent information is toward the bottom of the article.

Quoting the article: "Since 1950, S. marcescens has steadily increased as a cause of human infection, with many strains resistant to multiple antibiotics.[1] The first indications of problems with the influenza vaccine produced by Chiron Corporation in 2004 involved S. marcescens contamination."

This is the bacteria my MIL contracted during surgery. By 1985 S. marcescens had destroyed her bladder which was removed. She was sent home with an urostomy, and a supply of antibiotics I had to mix and inject twice daily. When her incision did not heal in the presence of the bacteria, the superficial sutures were removed and my wife had to pack the open incision with gauze strips saturated with a dilute sodium hypochlorite solution provided by the pharmacy. This caused the bedroom to have the aroma of a laundry. So we know that sodium hypochlorite is a medically approved treatment for some conditions.

If you live in a area with municipal water treatment, you are drinking either chloramines (http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/rulesregs/sdwa/mdbp/chloramines_index.cfm) or chlorine, either from injection of chlorine gas or a dilute solution of sodium hypochlorite into the finished water. I operated a water plant that used sodium hypochlorite at a dose that would maintain a residual of 0.5 ppm after 30 minutes of contact time (set by automated on-line analyzer). So every time you drink the water you are drinking dilute bleach. I also installed an ultraviolet light sanitation unit that killed chlorine resistant organisms and their oocysts by scrambling their DNA so they couldn't reproduce. While some use ozone (such as bottled water producers) for water disinfection, ozone is a reactive gas and breaks down within about 20-30 minutes leaving no residual. Chlorine or chloramine is mandated in a municipal system to provide a measurable residual throughout the distribution system as confirmation that the system remains disinfected. Chlorine is good for more that bleaching your shorts.

I'd try bleach first...

An old family friend who passed away in 1988 was a WWII (Pacific Theater) war vet. He used to tell me about the water tanks provided for them in the field, and that no one wanted to be at the end of the line because by then you were filling your canteen with the dregs, which meant it had a high concentration of chlorine. He said it was so strong that he could hardly drink it. I wonder what the concentration was in those tanks, particularly as it got to the last of it.

PS I never understood why the highest concentrations would be with the last of the water, but that's what he said.

They probably used tablets that slowly dissolved so that the last water to be drawn would be more highly concentrated.

Makes sense. I could see why being last in line would be a bad thing, in that case. Must have tasted pretty bad. He didn't report getting sick from it, though.

By any chance did you miss the part of 0.5 parts per million? If my math is correct that equals 1 tablespoon full per 1,500 gal. Big difference than that originally posted!

Phil

Man walks up to a woman in a bar and asks her "would you have sex with me for a million dollars?"

She responds "yes, I suppose I would"

"wouldja blow me for a dolla?"

"what do you take me for? A whore?"

"we've already established that, now we're just negotiating price..."

The OP said 1 OZ Clorox to 8 OZ water

Thats a HUGE amount above what is safe drinking water

I know, that's why I said he ought to try it on himself first! Things people will do to their animals...

Phil

Not to get too far afield, but 2004?! That's like yesterday. And yet you have people recommend that crap!