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Posted By: Dave_Skinner Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/28/14
At Thanksgiving, one of the clan asked me what he should get next. He's got two accurate rifles, one a 7 Rem Mag, and the other a .223 Rem.
So we got to bickering over what will fill the gap. Intended targets are coyotes and hopefully wolves, at somewhat beyond 223 distances. Not deer, we bickered about that, too.
Not a seven, as other clan members have 7-08s and 7x57s, just can't have the same thing.
Overall, this is an "off the rack," common-fodder kind of deal,
His two were either a 22-250 or 25-06.
Mine were 257 Roberts, or 6 Rem, with a possible eye toward improving either at some point.
Any other white-bread store-bought ideas?


Posted By: bruinruin Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/28/14
Tell him to get a .243 Win and call it good
Posted By: slm9s Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/28/14
fast twist 243? 260?
Posted By: Bama_Rick Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/28/14
.257 Weatherby
Posted By: ruffcutt Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/28/14
243, there's a bullet made in 6mm for just about any application. Common as a old shoe but ammo will probably be available every where ammo is sold.
Posted By: sackett Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/28/14
250-3000....87 grain speer TNT
Posted By: Esox357 Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/28/14
25.06

6.5-06
Well I usually dont get into these discussions, but what the hell...

.243 all day long.
Originally Posted by bruinruin
Tell him to get a .243 Win and call it good


This.
Posted By: antlers Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/28/14
.240 Weatherby
Posted By: safariman Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
Fast twist 220 Swift, 22-250AI or 22 Cheetah. I have used all three to good effect, fixin to turn my old school 220 Swift custom into a 220 WBY Rocket for grins and to finish burning out the barrel a bit more quickly grin
6mm rem.
Posted By: safariman Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
Originally Posted by deerstalker
6mm rem.
AI'ed, though. Original 6mm Rem stretches its cases pretty quickly, and there is a real world siginificant add in performance with the AI version.
Posted By: achadwick Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
This:

Originally Posted by bruinruin
Tell him to get a .243 Win and call it good
Posted By: 700LH Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
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Overall, this is an "off the rack," common-fodder kind of deal,


243 hands down.
Posted By: specialK Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
243
Posted By: 603Country Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
When all I saw on my place was coyotes, I used my 220. Then the pigs showed up, often at ranges out past 300 yards. Probably I'd have gone to a 243 AI, if I had one, but the next caliber size I had was my 260. I switched to the100 gr Nosler BT and no pig has survived the encounter. And I just stayed with the 260 and that bullet for deer season. That was 3 years ago, and 6 or so deer and a bunch of pigs and coyotes, and all is well.
Tell him to get a fast twist 6mm of some sort. For an off the rack caliber the .243 is the most logical choice. However, any 6mm needs to be paired with an 8 twist or faster barrel to shoot the 105/107 class bullets. I'm not aware of any factory rifles so twisted.

The 105 class 6mm bullets have a BC that lets them keep chugging at distances no .22 will work at. An 8 twist .243 shooting 105 amax's is an easy 1000 yd varmint rifle.
Posted By: Teal Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
243 or a 6.5 Creedmoor
Posted By: RickF Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
243 Win.
.243
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
i burned 50 rounds once shooting rats under a deer feed at 500yd with my 300rum.
Posted By: victoro Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
Tell him to get a Weatherby Vanguard .243 Win. (24" barrel) and some of these if the doesn't reload:

http://www.hornady.com/store/243-Win-75-gr-V-MAX-Superformance-Varmint

If he reloads then he can get some Hodgdon Superperformance powder and make his own. I don't varmit hunt but I think a 75gr bullet @ 3500+ fps will kill a coyote or wolf.
Posted By: BigNate Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
Off the shelf I'd go with a 6.5 Creedmore or .25-06.
Posted By: CCCC Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
"Bigger varmint caliber"
Are you seeking a caliber for bigger varmints, or a bigger caliber for varmints?
Posted By: eyeball Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
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Originally Posted by stxhunter
i burned 50 rounds once shooting rats under a deer feed at 500yd with my 300rum.


Roger, most of us have NO desire to burn 20 rounds of 300 RUM at anything short of Muzzies, much less 50. wink
Posted By: Bwana338 Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
26 Nosler ...

338 Win Mag ... A blast shooting prairie dogs, fox and coyotes.
Posted By: xxclaro Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
Hard to see a better option than the .243 for me.
Posted By: 280shooter Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
.270
Posted By: RickyD Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
25-06 or 243. I'd go with the 25-06.
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
"Intended targets are coyotes and hopefully wolves, at somewhat beyond 223 distances."

His 7mm Rem. Mag. shooting boat tails would be the fastest delivery and least expensive.

Posted By: Partsman Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
Originally Posted by RickyD
25-06 or 243. I'd go with the 25-06.


Yep 243 or 25/06
Posted By: FishinHank Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
243
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
For that application mine is a 6mm Rem and typically 85hpbt Sierras. So that or a 243 with same bullet.

Caliber seems rather obvious wouldn't you say?
Yep, looks like a six wins, or 25 ought six.
Funny thing is, I am shrinking my 25 to Better Bob from 06, because of what I actually use it for -- twere a short action, I'd go 25 Souper.
And my six is a 6-250....
I'll make sure he picks the fastest twist no matter what.
Posted By: VarmintGuy Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
Dave_Skinner: I vote for BOTH the 22-250 Remington and the 25/06 Remington!
Indeed I own several of each of these calibers and love them both.
Your "clansman" could get by with EITHER caliber but my motto is: "you only live once" and "the more the merrier"!
The 22-250 and the 25/06 are such useful and efficient calibers that a Hunter should just have one of each.
I say get one of each.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Posted By: JGray Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/29/14
Originally Posted by FishinHank
243

Yep�
Posted By: DakotaDeer Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/30/14
243 or Creedmore.

A Remington 243 has a tight enough twist to run 105 grain bullets almost all the time.
Posted By: 2muchgun Re: Bigger varmint caliber? - 11/30/14
Originally Posted by bruinruin
Tell him to get a .243 Win and call it good


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