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Bought one for Dad, originally. When photobucket stops shietting the bed, I will post pics.

He had one in the tank with him, in theatre. original M2 with chopped stock.

I bought the closest I could come up with. He looked at me and said, no worries, I will take care of the rest. All I could do was smile.
I'm smiling too, nice gift. If he needs brass give me a holler.
you are talking about .30 M1 carbines?
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That's a nice little collection Sam.
Nice story there Dirt.

So what bayonet did m-1s take. Was it the Garand models or their own version.
When I was in high school, my dad and I were deer hunting with Dad's friend and his son, my age. The kid was carrying an M1 carbine with a 16 shot mag. We were all together when we jumped a doe which I lung shot with a Win 32 Spec. Then the kid cut loose with his 30 cal. We counted the holes - he hit it with all 16 before she went down due to massive lung damage from my shot. Most of his hits were in the hind quarters but he didn't spare the shoulders. Dad elbowed me to be quiet and congratulated him on 'his' deer and made darn sure HIS tag went on it.
Do you recall if the deer had made any sounds in German? It kind of sounds like a case of misplaced retribution to me. wink
always wanted one a friend showed me his one day and kinda sparked looking for one.Long before we had a computer.About 6-7 months later in the local gun shop see a nice inland for 250 so i decided to buy it came with ammo and a bunch of mags.Showed it to my buddy it turned out it was his and thun shop owner solod to me for what he paid not making a dime.Kinda funny how somethings full circle
As a pilot in Vietnam, there was not a lot of room in the aircraft for an M-14 or M-16 - I 'discovered' the M2 carbine with a folding stock full auto selector - loved it and had a canvas case that held twelve 30-round mags. Obviously couldn't bring it back frown
Originally Posted by Klikitarik
Do you recall if the deer had made any sounds in German? It kind of sounds like a case of misplaced retribution to me. wink



not much more gets me riled than a Nazi deer mad laugh
I had one as a teen, loved it and wish I still had her. I've looked around lately, prices are stupid expensive.
I have two of them. An Inland from the CMP and a Postal Meter. When I was a kid in the 1960's A lot of the WWII and Korea vets deer hunted with carbines and killed plenty of deer with them.

Handy little rifles.
Originally Posted by viking
Nice story there Dirt.

So what bayonet did m-1s take. Was it the Garand models or their own version.
the US .30 M1 Carbine takes the M4 model bayonet.
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Originally Posted by viking
Nice story there Dirt.

So what bayonet did m-1s take. Was it the Garand models or their own version.

actually the earlier carbines did NOT take a bayonet, a knife similar to a trench knife was issued. The earlier front barrel bands had no provision to mount a bayonet. It was later they started retrofitting type four barrel bands, and then the m4bayonet. WWII ones were leather handled. Korean war and later plastic or different materials.
The knife issued at the beginning had a leather scabbard soon to be replaced with the fiberglass type due to rotting.
They are not cheap today if you find one with an original leather scabbard.
And a true folder, i.e. with the original folding stock were only made by inland and winchester. They are quite pricy.
the carbine is the only rifle that i am aware of that started life as a semiauto, and with the addition of the nine magic parts, became a select fire, the M2 version.

you often find M1 carbines with SOME of the magic parts. To have all of them is a major boo boo. The hump back sear is a m2part, but not uncommon to find in a m1, and also not illegal in and by itself.
you will often find them with the potbelly stocks, on the left side of the reciever area is a cutout in the stock for the go fast switch. Earlier stocks did not have that.
Originally Posted by Offshoreman
As a pilot in Vietnam, there was not a lot of room in the aircraft for an M-14 or M-16 - I 'discovered' the M2 carbine with a folding stock full auto selector - loved it and had a canvas case that held twelve 30-round mags. Obviously couldn't bring it back frown

i have told this story before, a navy friend, now deceased, found one in a stream in vietnam, an m1, but in good working condition. Took it to an armorer, who converted it to a M2, and cut the stock to make a pistol out of it. Dave drilled a hole in the wood and tied a leather thong on it to carry around his neck. He called it his "whore house" gun. Very good in certain establishments.
Originally Posted by Offshoreman
As a pilot in Vietnam, there was not a lot of room in the aircraft for an M-14 or M-16 - I 'discovered' the M2 carbine with a folding stock full auto selector - loved it and had a canvas case that held twelve 30-round mags. Obviously couldn't bring it back frown


My uncle figured out a way to bring his back from Korea. As I heard it, he stashed it in the smoke stack of the ship he came back on......... wink
there are a number of "bringbacks" floating around. I have one with the ship's name stenciled on the canvas sling. Another late 44 was brought back from germany
my late oldest brother had one that was the first rifle I hunted with in 1958. the first hunt he took me on, he shot a fork horn and unzipped him from stem to stern just as if he had used a knife to gut the thing.
it ran down the hill and lost most of its innards on the run. flopped down right behind the pick up and waited for us to get there then ran down a half mile into the bottom of the canyon.
after that my brother got a 308 straight pull.
I would trade half of my battery for that carbine today.
Originally Posted by Offshoreman
As a pilot in Vietnam, there was not a lot of room in the aircraft for an M-14 or M-16 - I 'discovered' the M2 carbine with a folding stock full auto selector - loved it and had a canvas case that held twelve 30-round mags. Obviously couldn't bring it back frown


We had a full bird colonel that had one. He was the CO of the cargo chopper bunch. He still liked to fly. He shot a couple o folks through the front window as I recall.

Quite a guy. Came up with the idea of dropping 55 gallon barrels of napalm ignited by WP grenades on close covered areas.

They mixed it too thick the first time and we had to light it off with A-4's running snakeeyes and 'nape.

I have my uncles old M-1 DCM carbine I got when he passeed. Way more accurate than most I have used.
I traded into a Quality Hardware M-1 carbine a few years back and have never fired it even though I have quite a bit of ammo for it. It's in excellent condition but I can't find any cartouches on the stock. It has a web sling, oiler in the stock and bayonet lug. CMP says that it's the 3rd rarest model but I am not a collector so that doesn't blow my skirt up.
I had a neighbor who killed his wife with one. Using hardball ammo he emptied the clip into her at very close range, then retrieved a pistol and finished her off as she tried to crawl out the door.

Once he finished shooting her, the Chicago Police officers - ordered by a judge to accompany her into the house to get her things - came out from behind the trees they had hunkered down behind. They had not actually accompanied her into the house as ordered, because the husband had assured them everything was cool.

(At this point we are supposed to say: "At least they went home to their families that night.")

The house sold at a tremendous discount after that incident.
Originally Posted by RoninPhx
Originally Posted by viking
Nice story there Dirt.

So what bayonet did m-1s take. Was it the Garand models or their own version.

actually the earlier carbines did NOT take a bayonet, a knife similar to a trench knife was issued. The earlier front barrel bands had no provision to mount a bayonet. It was later they started retrofitting type four barrel bands, and then the m4bayonet. WWII ones were leather handled. Korean war and later plastic or different materials.
The knife issued at the beginning had a leather scabbard soon to be replaced with the fiberglass type due to rotting.
They are not cheap today if you find one with an original leather scabbard.
And a true folder, i.e. with the original folding stock were only made by inland and winchester. They are quite pricy.


I did a look up and bayonet lugs were added starting in 1945 although few M-1 carbines with the bayonet lug made it to the ETO before the war ended. Starting with Korea all M-1 carbines had bayonet lugs. I know mine did, the one I used in the service in the 70's.

Just to back up with what you were saying.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
you are talking about .30 M1 carbines?
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Wow. Nice collection Sam.
Sam Yes sir. I was talking .30 cal M1 carbine. This one has DOB of 1944.
I know how we all like a lot of pictures. Enjoy.

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And yes. This one has an M4 bayonet with mount.
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Originally Posted by MColeman
I traded into a Quality Hardware M-1 carbine a few years back and have never fired it even though I have quite a bit of ammo for it. It's in excellent condition but I can't find any cartouches on the stock. It has a web sling, oiler in the stock and bayonet lug. CMP says that it's the 3rd rarest model but I am not a collector so that doesn't blow my skirt up.

the one I showed with the bayonet, is a Quality Hardware. The barrel is by RockOla.

The folding stock carbine is an Inland. All the parts are marked Inland.
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Originally Posted by Offshoreman
As a pilot in Vietnam, there was not a lot of room in the aircraft for an M-14 or M-16 - I 'discovered' the M2 carbine with a folding stock full auto selector - loved it and had a canvas case that held twelve 30-round mags. Obviously couldn't bring it back frown


P-Man. Nice story. I have a couple friends who have owned M2s. One was a door gunner on a Huey. He really liked it, a folding stock version that did not take up a lot of room. Hell of a nice guy and pretty funny, too. I asked him once if he had ever thought about staying in and making a career out of it. He said there was not a lot of career development opportunities available for a door gunner on a chopper.

Other friend was able to get it back and recently sold it as part of large package of guns.
Sam, if you don't mind me asking, what are you using to treat your stocks? They look really nice.
the wood was originally treated with BLO, the original stuff not that with the additives.
The bayonet lug was the type four, prior to that was a narrow band, then a medium band.
Most of the ones you run into are just like garands, mix and match. You have to know what you are doing tho, as more than one of the manufactures really didn't make the parts, they subcontracted them from other companies. And some of them that still had recievers near the end of production sent them to other manufacturers. Those are the "line out" and are considered rather special.
Most consider the irwin peterson the rare one, it is, but not anywhere near rare as some of the subspecies.
I am going off the top of my memory, but as an example a postal meter about the only thing postal meter is the reciever.
I should take some pictures of it, but just snagged some 1942 production military m1carbine ammo in a trapizoidal box. I should go back and buy the rest of it. To shoot it, not a chance, but it is fun to look at.
I found a leather jeep scabbard for a carbine last year which i considered a coup.
Originally Posted by GunReader
I had a neighbor who killed his wife with one. Using hardball ammo he emptied the clip into her at very close range, then retrieved a pistol and finished her off as she tried to crawl out the door.

Once he finished shooting her, the Chicago Police officers - ordered by a judge to accompany her into the house to get her things - came out from behind the trees they had hunkered down behind. They had not actually accompanied her into the house as ordered, because the husband had assured them everything was cool.

(At this point we are supposed to say: "At least they went home to their families that night.")

The house sold at a tremendous discount after that incident.


Very female sounding, and what a nice contribution.

I bought what I thought was an M1 carbine back in the late 90s. Didn't know squat about them, but it had wood stock and a Choate folding one (which at the time I thought was cooler that it really was). Turns out it's a Universal, not a real M1. And it's a POS that has never run well. Have had plans to turn it into a pump rifle, but have never gotten around to it.

FWIW I've never seen or handled an M1 that was converted to pump action, but have read about it. Thought it'd make a neat bunny gun or something.
I killed my first deer with an M-1 carbine. Still have it.

Friend of mine said his brother brought back an M-2 from Korea.

I've heard that ground forces didn't much like the M-2 in VN as it drew fire from both sides!
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Sam, if you don't mind me asking, what are you using to treat your stocks? They look really nice.


I have not done anything to the wood. Just wipe it clean from time to time.
Mine was an M-2 and there was no bringing home full-auto mil weapons, especially original US issue
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Nice guns guys...another I wished I'd bought back before prices got silly.
makes two of us...the new 300BO cartridge with a 110 grain bullet is very close to the carbine when fired from a 10 inch pistol barrel, interesting to me is that the 2100FPS BO velocity makes it more dependent on bullet technology (in my opinion). The Barnes 110 Vor-TX will punch both shoulders and exit leaving a quarter sized exit hole. IMO the carbine or the 300BO round is for sure more than any 9mm or 45ACP.
for plinking, I load up with the 110 grain FMJ bullets. For social work, I use the 110 grain SP. The most effective factory loading seems to be the Winchester 110 grain hollow point soft point.
First CF I ever had the pleasure to shoot was a M1 Carbine. Lot of fun.

Owned and Inland Division version about 30 years ago and though it shot well enough I wound up selling it. Have a Kahr clone today that shoots fine. It likes the Remington 110 grain SP atop a dash of Lil' Gun.

Have noticed of late that other than Winchester production, the prices seem to be dropping sharply at the gun shows.
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