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You guys are a hoot.
whoever done that knew it, and hoped someone wouldn't notice.
If the insurance is right you might parlay this into a McMillian.
Ho Lee Fokk!

Tread marks on the box?
As bad as it looks,it can be fixed,but would most likely have to be refinished.
this is why I always ship guns in a wood box,ones that have their own strength ,and don't use the rifle inside to resist bending.
Man, that took a serious hit!
What did the box look like?
That just plain sucks. I got a scope one time from Midsouth that was bent. Shippers suck sometimes.
Lots of folks don't know how to pack stuff either. Not saying this was the case.

Originally Posted by Steelhead
Lots of folks don't know how to pack stuff either. Not saying this was the case.



Very true, but in this instance, it almost looks like a 'Demolition Expert' down at FedEx had his hand in this...

I am sure it is a freak accident...but the end results should make the insurance due pretty obvious...

Sorry the OP has to go thru this tho... pretty frustrating..
But, that IS the first response - "Inadequately packed"
I had a 3 month battle with UPS over that (I won!)
Thank You for your support
I got a good deal on a rifle a local dealer bought from someone back east, it arrived with a broken stock, right at the wrist or grip they may call it.
It was a Ruger heavy barrel in 22/250, got it cheap and bought a standard barrel channel Ruger stock, but kept the stock and just glued the broken one together, it is still holding up.
But I would have been ticked if that had been me getting that rifle you posted.
Just received a rifle from a very respected seller here, through USPS. Beautiful rifle. I have been admiring, tinkering, working with it since I got it.

Unfortunately, the front sight post was ridiculously bent when I picked it up. I know in my heart, in my conversations with the seller, he would not intentionally send me this rifle with that front sight the way it was when I received it.

So, I will not even bring it up to him. Period. End of story. I am thankful I got the opportunity to acquire the gun. The rest, I can fix or have my peoples that can, do the rest. *USPS took no responsibility, nor accepted any damage consideration. Nuff said.*

Like my Dad told me. You gotta trust somebody at some point, or the rest doesn't mean anything.

LD
Originally Posted by mark shubert
But, that IS the first response - "Inadequately packed"
I had a 3 month battle with UPS over that (I won!)


Yea. They always say that and you have to fight them on it. Worked for me with a broken stock on a Marlin 44 Mag.

Originally Posted by Gansettx
Here is the box, notice the crease right at the end of Remington. It was tightly wrapped with bubble wrap and styro-foam. When it left my possession the gun didn't move in the box. But that being said surely that break wouldn't have come from normal handling regardless of what was in the box...?

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No idea why people ship rifles in boxes that state "hey...there's a rifle in here".

Remington boxes are easy to turn inside out so there's nothing on the outside, but the buyer can turn it back and have the original box. I do it all the time. Either that or stick the factory box inside another box. Ain't that difficult.
Originally Posted by Gansettx
So I was working a trade with a fine member of this Forum...
FedEx delivers a day ahead of schedule (Kudos to them...right?)
Here is what the FFL found in the box:

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This is my rifle to him. Now I'm in a 5 to 7 day review period to see what the outcome will be. How flipping hard do you think it got wrapped around something for that to happen? So far they have been courteous but we shall see.


Didn't ship it in a hardcase? They are real cheap insurance when shipping a rifle to someone...
Originally Posted by 257heaven
Originally Posted by Gansettx
Here is the box, notice the crease right at the end of Remington. It was tightly wrapped with bubble wrap and styro-foam. When it left my possession the gun didn't move in the box. But that being said surely that break wouldn't have come from normal handling regardless of what was in the box...?

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No idea why people ship rifles in boxes that state "hey...there's a rifle in here".

Remington boxes are easy to turn inside out so there's nothing on the outside, but the buyer can turn it back and have the original box. I do it all the time. Either that or stick the factory box inside another box. Ain't that difficult.


I don't want to hurt any feelings, but this was asking for a damaged gun. Gun wholesalers even ship the factory boxes inside of other more substantial boxes when they ship to dealers.

I'm sorry for both parties to this transaction. It has to be disheartening. frown
Originally Posted by fluffy
As bad as it looks,it can be fixed,but would most likely have to be refinished.
I wouldn't accept a glued up stock. They broke it. They can replace it with one as good as they broke.
Please let us know if Fed Ex pays your insurance claim.
that sucks, sorry for your bad luck


hope everything gets resolved to your satisfaction
Just because...

That stock was asking to be broken from Day 1. The grain is absolutely horrible for any strength characteristic and would have likely failed at some point regardless.

As a wood technologist I would be happy to submit an opinion in writing to the manufacturer to the effect that it should never have passed QC in the first place.
I would start a thread skewering the seller. grin
Believe a wooden crate is the only "safe" package. USPS snapped a Lazermark for me...
For safe passage no matter the shipper, double boxed with adequate packing is the minimum. Inside an inexpensive hard guncase in a heavy cardboard box is better. A factory cardboard box was never intended to be a shipping box and was a poor choice by the shipper. You may have a difficult time with your claim with Fed Ex as the rifle really was inadequately packed.
take the stock off and ship it in a box with no label. Not trying to imply it should have gone down that way, and it sucks, but why advertise? I leave my wallet and phone in the car. I dont leave them on the dashboard.

Originally Posted by luv2safari

I don't want to hurt any feelings, but this was asking for a damaged gun. Gun wholesalers even ship the factory boxes inside of other more substantial boxes when they ship to dealers.

I'm sorry for both parties to this transaction. It has to be disheartening. frown


I'm sorry this happened too, but that box is not adequate for shipping a rifle. That box is just designed to hold everything in one place while it's sitting on a shelf in a warehouse. I used to be a FFL dealer and every rifle I ever shipped or received was shipped with a box like that inside another much stouter box, usually with additional packing or shredded newspaper surrounding it as padding.

I hope they pay the insurance, but that really wasn't packaged properly.
Originally Posted by Gansettx
Here is the box, notice the crease right at the end of Remington. It was tightly wrapped with bubble wrap and styro-foam. When it left my possession the gun didn't move in the box. But that being said surely that break wouldn't have come from normal handling regardless of what was in the box...?

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1. That is not adequate packaging.

2. That is not legal packaging.........
Lucky it wasn't stolen. At least you
got to keep some parts.
Yep, that was PISS POOR packaging, which is what I see more times than not.

The factory rifle box is shiet for strength, to ship is just in that is asking for problems.

I knew I'd see a bunch of 'But I pack well', just like I see 'I'm conservative' from a bunch of Yankees.

Once again, people baffle me.


Yeah, I'd never think of shipping a rifle like that.
Double boxed at a minimum.
Thought the same thing as Sitka seeing that grain.
Pretty much a perfect storm of bad stock, bad packaging, and advertising of contents.
Some mike brown sympathizer works at ups, they done a number on a cracka's gun.


I agree, I'm no transfer pro but by God if I was shipping a long gun- it would not look like a long gun. Not in today's climate.
Probably was on the FedEx truck I saw laid on it's side the other day North of Austin.
Oops, someone has hurt feelers because they can't pack a rifle correctly.
I'll keep all who are interested on the outcome informed. Thanks for your input and support.
Thinking that this is going to be a tough fight for you with Fed-Ex considering packing. They will more than likely call it inadequate.

On a positive note, I did have a claim resolved with them positively on a damaged stock about a year ago. They did require photos of all packaging and explanation of packaging method.

Luckily the seller had done a really good job with double boxing and padding.

Good luck, hope it all turns out okay.

twofish
We know this was packaged poorly.

But to put pressure on the shippers to combat anti- gun sentiment that seems to strike the easily identified packages, maybe there should be a sticky created to keep track of these tales, then after so many are seen, confront the shippers with the evidence, and ask fhem to make changes to clean this up.

Its no coincidence to me that so many guns are "dropped" "bent" " mishandled" and arrive damaged.

Maybe they should put the cameras on the handlers to show just whats happening to these packages on their journey. Its no accident to me.

Cork soakers.
UPS broke a stock on a 336 once.

I sent them pictures of the packaging, the break, and a note saying if they had any further doubts, I would bring the gun to their office so they could see it first hand.

Check in a week.
Originally Posted by WillARights
We know this was packaged poorly.

But to put pressure on the shippers to combat anti- gun sentiment that seems to strike the easily identified packages, maybe there should be a sticky created to keep track of these tales, then after so many are seen, confront the shippers with the evidence, and ask fhem to make changes to clean this up.

Its no coincidence to me that so many guns are "dropped" "bent" " mishandled" and arrive damaged.

Maybe they should put the cameras on the handlers to show just whats happening to these packages on their journey. Its no accident to me.

Cork soakers.


might not be a bad idea, but doubt we'd get the changes we desire


probably more along the lines of strict rules for packaging


or worse yet, they decide not to ship firearms in the future


would think shipment of firearms would be a pretty small percentage of what they ship (though I don't know this for fact, it could be much higher than my assumption)


but it's just biz to them, if they're shipping them an item with a high amount of damages per number of items shipped, they're as apt to refuse to ship them as they are to have seminars for their employees on the "gentle handling" of some packages

they're slinging things to make a profit, doubt they're gonna change policy to "slow down, be careful"
According to someone in the know - The apes in the warehouse will run over things with a forklift, assuming they can't be knocked off an overhead conveyor.
I'm glad somebody here likes FedEx, because since 11/22, FedEx and I have been going round-n-round about a pkg they lost. I finally got them to admit they delivered the pkg to the wrong address and they cant find it.

FedEx cost me a weeks vacation, $800 dollars of non-refundable cost, and the purchase price of the harness.

FedEx sucks as far as I'm concerned.
I am the 'other' party in this transaction, and would like to let everyone know that Gansettx is handling things as a true gentlemen on my end. He is making me whole, and taking the fight with fedex.

Gansettx is GTG, and can be dealt with the upmost confidence in the future.....

Once again, Thank You Chad for being one of 'good guys' on the fire.

Sure wish I could see the pictures...
Originally Posted by Double_D

Gansettx is GTG, and can be dealt with the utmost confidence in the future.....

Once again, Thank You Chad for being one of 'good guys' on the fire.


Thanks Double D for the kind words and I appreciated your patience through this unfortunate issue.

True to my word I wanted to update everyone on the outcome. As of this morning FedEx has accepted responsibility for the damage and cut a check on 12/23. They were as an organization true to their word and followed their process to a 'T'.

Now you'll see my WTB for a stock in the classifieds...Anyone have a bead on where I can find one?
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