H.R.258 - Stolen Valor Act of 2013 I hope that we all understand how serious this really is. The reason this is law is because there are good folks that have to put up with imbeciles that want to piggy back off of those that did their duty and nothing else. Beware 4321. You are known to the good people that defend and take this law seriously. Glenn Holcomb will be in a world of hurt if he keeps on being a pain in the collective Campfire's ass. And the Stolen Valor Act will make things right.
H.R.258 - Stolen Valor Act of 2013 I hope that we all understand how serious this really is. The reason this is law is because there are good folks that have to put up with imbeciles that want to piggy back off of those that did their duty and nothing else. Beware 4321. You are known to the good people that defend and take this law seriously. Glenn Holcomb will be in a world of hurt if he keeps on being a pain in the collective Campfire's ass. And the Stolen Valor Act will make things right.
Umm, SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional a few years ago.
Umm, SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional a few years ago.
H.R. 258: Stolen Valor Act of 2013
Introduced: Jan 15, 2013 (113th Congress, 2013�2015) Status: Enacted � Signed by the President on Jun 3, 2013 Law: This bill became the law numbered Pub.L. 113-12.
On June 3, President Barack Obama signed into law The American Legion-backed Stolen Valor Act of 2013, which now makes it a "federal crime for an individual to fraudulently hold oneself out to be a recipient of any of several specified military decorations or medals with the intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit."
The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the original Stolen Valor Act of 2005, deeming it unconstitutional because it was, in the justices� opinion, too broad in scope and violated the right of free speech. The Legion passed Resolution 283 during its 2012 National Convention, calling on Congress to amend the Stolen Valor Act of 2005, to provide that the elements of fraud be incorporated into previous Stolen Valor legislation. U.S. Rep. Joe Heck, R-Nev., and the Legion worked together to draft a new Stolen Valor Act that included this legal language in effort to meet the Supreme Court�s objections to the old Stolen Valor Act.
On Jan. 15, 2013, Heck introduced H.R.258, the Stolen Valor Act of 2013. The bill also criminalized the act of lying to gain unearned veterans health-care benefits or other rewards, such as employment reserved for veterans. And on May 20, the House of Representatives passed Heck�s bill by a vote of 390 to 3. Legion Commander James E. Koutz praised the overwhelming, bipartisan vote.
"The American Legion is impressed with Congress today," he said. "Those who deliberately lie about military service, wear medals they did not earn or make claims of combat heroism they did not achieve are more than just liars. They are perpetrators of the worst kind of fraud. Their lies are an insult to all who have truly stood in harm�s way and earned their decorations. We raised this issue at our national convention, and the House acted."
On May 22, the Senate passed the legislation by unanimous consent. Senators Dean Heller, R-Nev., and Jon Tester, D-Mont., introduced the Senate companion bill (S. 210).
Both Heck and Heller rejoiced at the president�s signature. "I�m pleased that the valor and integrity of our military awards, along with the men and women who have earned them, are once again protected by law," Heck said. "It has been an incredibly rewarding process, and I thank all of those who have helped along the way in making this bill a law."
"I�m pleased that President Obama signed the Stolen Valor Act into law," Heller said. "The brave acts of the men and women in our military should be honored and protected. Thanks to the hard work of Rep. Heck and those who joined us in support of this issue, the recognition that these men and women earned will be preserved."
Umm, SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional a few years ago.
I'd like to know when that happened. I'm just a regular guy from Texas that had something to do with the Stolen Valor Project and I didn't hear about all of our hard work flushed down the Supreme Court's toilet.
a Medal of Honor, a Distinguished Service Cross, a Navy Cross, an Air Force Cross, a Silver Star, a Purple Heart, a Combat Infantryman's Badge, a Combat Action Badge, a Combat Medical Badge, a Combat Action Ribbon, a Combat Action Medal, or any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law.
The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the original Stolen Valor Act of 2005, deeming it unconstitutional because it was, in the justices� opinion, too broad in scope and violated the right of free speech.
There is a difference between 2005 and 2013. Why do I have to do this? The dates are damned easy to know the difference from. Look it up. I did. Ain't going to do it for you again.
H.R.258 - Stolen Valor Act of 2013 I hope that we all understand how serious this really is. The reason this is law is because there are good folks that have to put up with imbeciles that want to piggy back off of those that did their duty and nothing else. Beware 4321. You are known to the good people that defend and take this law seriously. Glenn Holcomb will be in a world of hurt if he keeps on being a pain in the collective Campfire's ass. And the Stolen Valor Act will make things right.
Wonder how it compares to say stalking, harassment, defamation, or slander? As long as you're certain, probably nothing to worry about.
Wonder how it compares to say stalking, harassment, defamation, or slander?
I don't know Richard. Who have you stalked? Who have you harassed? Who's character have you defamed? Who have you slandered? Interesting questions if you want to be honest.
Dude, you really need to get a life, you take this internet way too seriously. Get a hobby or something...cooking chili obviously is not the answer to fulfill your time. If you don't like this guy just put him on ignore or simply don't read his posts...it's really that simple.
a Medal of Honor, a Distinguished Service Cross, a Navy Cross, an Air Force Cross, a Silver Star, a Purple Heart, a Combat Infantryman's Badge, a Combat Action Badge, a Combat Medical Badge, a Combat Action Ribbon, a Combat Action Medal, or any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law.
And uses it for financial gain.
WOW!!! This guy was one busy SOB. He apparently served in the US Army, US Navy, US Air Force and, maybe in the US Marines. Gotta admire him! (NAH)
While I obviously think he's as big of a dumbass as anyone, I doubt if his conduct on here is for his financial gain, and thus rises to the threshold of the 2013 law.
Thought I would add this article before thread goes downhill to far. I go to this gun store once in a while. Don't know if I have ever met this guy or not. He was arrested for his acts of receiving a reward from LGS that cared a lot for vets.
Thought I would add this article before thread goes downhill to far. I go to this gun store once in a while. Don't know if I have ever met this guy or not. He was arrested for his acts of receiving a reward from LGS that cared a lot for vets.
The alleged "perp" tried to convince me/us that I needed to have a waterproof,sealed Backpack while I'm drowning when crossing raging whitewater rivers,
He didn't try to sell me one, Which is why I find this thread, and the "perp" complete comedy.
While I obviously think he's as big of a dumbass as anyone, I doubt if his conduct on here is for his financial gain, and thus rises to the threshold of the 2013 law.
which dumb ass are we talking about ? Bart ?? Or this other guy that's playing all these fools like a cheap fiddle??
While I obviously think he's as big of a dumbass as anyone, I doubt if his conduct on here is for his financial gain, and thus rises to the threshold of the 2013 law.
If I recall correctly,there was money involved. Also...This isn't directed toward you goalie because I believe you get it. I don't care where this things lead. Yuck it up all you want but to anyone that haven't been involved in something as important as Stolen Valor,maybe it's serious and means more than some insults. So put beans in your chili and Coke and ice in your bourbon,I don't care. But act like a fool and lie about being in the Military or what you did while you were there,watch out because there are folks around that take that kind of thing very seriously.
there are folks around that take that kind of thing very seriously. ================================================= As they should!!
I got pissed when I saw some guys selling their Eagle Scout badges and certificates on e-bay! And of course the fakers who buy them. I realize it's not near the same BUT it's not at all right. Just WRONG!
Agreed Bart. Take A Schit, Countbacula, or whatever that dumbfucq calls himself this week, needs a good old fashioned azzwhompin if his lies are indeed just that.
Beans, ice, cola, fat chicks, tat tramps, all that is whatever someone prefers. No skin off my nose.
While I obviously think he's as big of a dumbass as anyone, I doubt if his conduct on here is for his financial gain, and thus rises to the threshold of the 2013 law.
If I recall correctly,there was money involved. Also...This isn't directed toward you goalie because I believe you get it. I don't care where this things lead. Yuck it up all you want but to anyone that haven't been involved in something as important as Stolen Valor,maybe it's serious and means more than some insults. So put beans in your chili and Coke and ice in your bourbon,I don't care. But act like a fool and lie about being in the Military or what you did while you were there,watch out because there are folks around that take that kind of thing very seriously.
He didn't bet me. I put up the 2k that he was not an active duty SF and he backed off his offered bet real quick.
I thought he was probably guard, but, his sudden disappearance and lack of promised disclosure has me thinking I gave him more credit than he was due......
I think you handled yourself like a gentleman and you were more patient with him than I ever could be. I always wonder what drives someone to act like an ass on an internet site like this. There must be something basically wrong with him. Probably still wets the bed or still sucks his thumb. Anyway,you called him and he backed off. Win-win.
I talked to 338Rem(Steve)and he said that he's going to try and make the get-together. I talk to him on the phone pretty regular and he's a very funny guy. Y'all are going to have a good time.
You know, it boggles my mind that there are really dudes out there who can do this. No self respect at all, I can't fathom that, I can't even begin to.
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