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Posted By: GunGeek Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/30/15
For their final tour, RUSH drummer Neir Peart had a very special drum kit built. The entire kit is made from a single log...a 1,500 year old log found at the bottom of a river in Romania.



[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu...8&v=o78bcxVXyVM&x-yt-cl=85114404[/video]
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/30/15
I played for 20+ years and loved to try and play along with Rush. Mentionng Moon was another biggee. Loved playing his stuff because it made people think you were really 'good'. Usually fast and energetic but not overly tricky really.

The snare rustling while he speaks brings back a lot of fond memories. My step son inherited many of my pieces and really took it to a scientific level. Can't wait for him to see this. Thanks GG.


Quandary- how can this be made into your spinning communist propaganda and Obama love by posting??
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/30/15
I can't wait to see them again when they come.

I was just inspired recently to build a kit that my son can eventually use. I will build using staves instead of ply glued together in a mold though.

Something like this, but a whole kit:

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f9/stave-drum-build-52391/
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/30/15
Originally Posted by kenjs1
Quandary- how can this be made into your spinning communist propaganda and Obama love by posting??
Well I challenge you to show me one instance of actual Obama love that I have shown. On rare occasions I've come down on the same side as the administration, but that doesn't mean I have any love for the SOB. It's kinda sad that you think anyone who doesn't agree with your political views is a communist. Republicans are a whole lot closer to socialist and communist than I've ever been.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/30/15
Originally Posted by goalie
I can't wait to see them again when they come.

I was just inspired recently to build a kit that my son can eventually use. I will build using staves instead of ply glued together in a mold though.

Something like this, but a whole kit:

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f9/stave-drum-build-52391/
That would make for a seriously beautiful kit. Clever way to mill it all round.
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/30/15
Yeah, a few simple jigs and a router. MUCH cheaper than a lathe large enough to turn a 22" bass drum.

You can actually make the outside jig adjustable for different sizes, and the inside jig just needs to be long enough to allow doing the inside of your largest drum diameter, and it will still work with your smallest size that you can fit the router into.

No 8" rack tom for me.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/30/15
Yeah it's an awesome solution, so simple.
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/31/15
Originally Posted by GunGeek
Originally Posted by kenjs1
Quandary- how can this be made into your spinning communist propaganda and Obama love by posting??
Well I challenge you to show me one instance of actual Obama love that I have shown. On rare occasions I've come down on the same side as the administration, but that doesn't mean I have any love for the SOB. It's kinda sad that you think anyone who doesn't agree with your political views is a communist. Republicans are a whole lot closer to socialist and communist than I've ever been.


PM sent. ByQuandry I meant - how could anyone??? To clarify for you and all, I do not think you are Pro bammy at all brother. Apologies for poorly executed jest.


Anyone else look at other sets these folks made? Beautiful stuff.
Posted By: MojoHand Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/31/15
Originally Posted by GunGeek
For their final tour, RUSH drummer Neir Peart had a very special drum kit built. The entire kit is made from a single log...a 1,500 year old log found at the bottom of a river in Romania.



[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu...8&v=o78bcxVXyVM&x-yt-cl=85114404[/video]


A heavenly kit for the God of drummers!


(Now, how much would it cost me to have a guitar made from that log.....) whistle

(I know....its oak, so...no) smile
Posted By: EdM Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 01/31/15
I was stunned watching Carl Palmer play among his surroundings.
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/01/15
It is much more fancy than the drum I am building out of 2x4's

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Thanks for posting this and getting my ass into the shop to get 'er going. It looks promising. Table-saw setup wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I used a digital angle gauge and was damn close the first try.

I will do another pine mock-up with 1x3 tomorrow before I start making sawdust with "real" wood.

Originally Posted by goalie
It is much more fancy than the drum I am building out of 2x4's

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Thanks for posting this and getting my ass into the shop to get 'er going. It looks promising. Table-saw setup wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I used a digital angle gauge and was damn close the first try.

I will do another pine mock-up with 1x3 tomorrow before I start making sawdust with "real" wood.



you do have band clamps,right?
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/01/15
I ordered some HUGE ones. Should be here Wednesday.

The pic was just a dry run to get the angles right. I will actually glue up the shell made from 1x3 pine and mill it round with a router jig.
I have about 20 winch straps that do the same thing. grin
still haven't come down with the cold.
been taking zicam every three hours.
wife and son are both miserable.
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/01/15
Originally Posted by fluffy
I have about 20 winch straps that do the same thing. grin
still haven't come down with the cold.
been taking zicam every three hours.
wife and son are both miserable.


Some of the stuff I have read about gluing up the shells say that the straps (instead of giant hose-clamps with a worm-gear tightening system) apply unequal pressure to the shell and can lead to slightly out of round shells.

I don't know if that is true, but for under 40-bucks shipped I got a hundred feet of the metal band and enough hardware to make 10 clamps. I will make a few for snare/tom sizes and three or four bass-drum sized clamps and be set up for life.

Oh, and I got the crud. Next weekend doesn't work for me. I am going to winter camp with my son for Cub Scouts. I forgot that it was coming up so soon. I am off work Monday and Thursday this week though.
Originally Posted by goalie
[Some of the stuff I have read about gluing up the shells say that the straps (instead of giant hose-clamps with a worm-gear tightening system) apply unequal pressure to the shell and can lead to slightly out of round shells.

I can see that happening pretty easily.
most I have ever done is 8 pieces
this is a tabernacle stand I made a few years ago for a monastery.
the bottom is a turned octagon.

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the legs of this are turned octagons. basically made the same way as the drum ,just a bit longer.

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Posted By: pak Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/02/15
The woods that have spent time in a low O2 environment are suppose to develop a better tonal quality. I have a banjo that has a block rim made of sunken birch from the Great Lakes. One qualifier as to whether or not it has better tone, is a better player than I needs to bring out the tonal qualities.
Posted By: twofish Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/02/15
Originally Posted by MojoHand
Originally Posted by GunGeek
For their final tour, RUSH drummer Neir Peart had a very special drum kit built. The entire kit is made from a single log...a 1,500 year old log found at the bottom of a river in Romania.



[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu...8&v=o78bcxVXyVM&x-yt-cl=85114404[/video]


A heavenly kit for the God of drummers!


(Now, how much would it cost me to have a guitar made from that log.....) whistle

(I know....its oak, so...no) smile


I listened to a Rush album I had not listened to in a while the other day. He really is technically more advanced than anyone.

Any an incredible lyricist as well.

twofish
I love DW drums. The most awesome drums I ever played were Premier Signias. The best bass drums I ever played were Pearl Masters the bottom was amazing. DWs seem to be the most consistent. Toms are always open with lots of sustain unless they are wearing pinstrips and great tone, their bass drums are nice too. I don't know about any companies snares cause you can't beat a ludwig super sensitive. I am blessed to own 2 of them a 6.5" and a 5".

Neals new kit looks gorgeous but I would have loved to hear them!
Originally Posted by twofish
Originally Posted by MojoHand
Originally Posted by GunGeek
For their final tour, RUSH drummer Neir Peart had a very special drum kit built. The entire kit is made from a single log...a 1,500 year old log found at the bottom of a river in Romania.



[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu...8&v=o78bcxVXyVM&x-yt-cl=85114404[/video]


A heavenly kit for the God of drummers!


(Now, how much would it cost me to have a guitar made from that log.....) whistle

(I know....its oak, so...no) smile


I listened to a Rush album I had not listened to in a while the other day. He really is technically more advanced than anyone.

Any an incredible lyricist as well.

twofish


I love Neil but you need to listen to more music bro. Not being an azz, just there are more drummers out their with WAY more chops. Now a days every drummer that isn't a country drummer or some top 40 shmo is pretty bad azz. Derick Roddy, Gene Hoglan, Goerge Kolias, Chris Adler are some awesome metal drummers amazing feet. Vinny something I cant remember how to spell his last name he used to play for sting, its pronounced col-you-toe but spelled way different. Anyway he's a great drummer. Dave Weckle is in the same vein.

The days of idolizing guys from past rock bands is over imho. Technical playing has come a long ways. In the late 80s and early 90s I played in a touring metal band and everywhere I went people would tell me how my kickdrums were blazing fast or how brutal and technical my grooves and fills were but now I probably couldn't even get in a touring metal band if I had to audition, that's how far technical playng has come. The only part that has suffered from the technical advancment is most of the new drummers are pussified as they play with little tiny sticks and tap around on the drums like they don't want to break them. You gotta play with fire cause at the end of the day its what makes the music sound good, the right groove played with the right additude. That is why neil is so good he is balanced, good grooves, fills and played with fire! But he's definitely not the most tecnical.
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/02/15
Neil is good, but he is far from the best.

He would be the first to tell you that.
Yes, no disrespect ment at all. He's not just good he's great.
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/02/15
Damn, Fluffy needs to be building my drums.

Those legs made me fantasize about a big-assed lathe.
Posted By: smarquez Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/02/15
Originally Posted by seal_billy
I love DW drums. The most awesome drums I ever played were Premier Signias. The best bass drums I ever played were Pearl Masters the bottom was amazing. DWs seem to be the most consistent. Toms are always open with lots of sustain unless they are wearing pinstrips and great tone, their bass drums are nice too. I don't know about any companies snares cause you can't beat a ludwig super sensitive. I am blessed to own 2 of them a 6.5" and a 5".

Neals new kit looks gorgeous but I would have loved to hear them!

My son had a Pearl endorsement for a couple years and I have always felt that the Pearl Masters bass drums were the best. They could cut through anything and always overcame acoustics in the lousiest rooms and lousy sound men.
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Posted By: GunGeek Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/02/15
Originally Posted by seal_billy
I love Neil but you need to listen to more music bro. Not being an azz, just there are more drummers out their with WAY more chops. Now a days every drummer that isn't a country drummer or some top 40 shmo is pretty bad azz. Derick Roddy, Gene Hoglan, Goerge Kolias, Chris Adler are some awesome metal drummers amazing feet. Vinny something I cant remember how to spell his last name he used to play for sting, its pronounced col-you-toe but spelled way different. Anyway he's a great drummer. Dave Weckle is in the same vein.

The days of idolizing guys from past rock bands is over imho. Technical playing has come a long ways. In the late 80s and early 90s I played in a touring metal band and everywhere I went people would tell me how my kickdrums were blazing fast or how brutal and technical my grooves and fills were but now I probably couldn't even get in a touring metal band if I had to audition, that's how far technical playng has come. The only part that has suffered from the technical advancment is most of the new drummers are pussified as they play with little tiny sticks and tap around on the drums like they don't want to break them. You gotta play with fire cause at the end of the day its what makes the music sound good, the right groove played with the right additude. That is why neil is so good he is balanced, good grooves, fills and played with fire! But he's definitely not the most tecnical.


Certainly not the most technical, he's more of an innovator making technical actually sound good. What I like about Peart is his composing. His drum lines can be technical and simple at the same time. Other "technical" drummers sound; well technical. Peart does the technical stuff (in an age well before Pro Tools, etc), yet it doesn't sound cluttered or forced, where a lot of guys who could out-drum Peart all day long, they sound cluttered and forced when they compose the drumming for a song.

Peart will go down as one of the greatest, because he's a monster musician, not just a technical drummer. I've seen several guys whom no one has ever heard of who are technically more sound, technically more gifted, and just tear up a kit much better than Peart.

But I've never seen a drummer like Peart who can hold his own with the best, is a master in his composing and making it all work in the song, to the better of the song, and not just to the better of Peart...and a work ethic of 40+ years of pushing the envelope of his craft. He's a world class musician...but there are oodles of drummers who are technically "better".
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/03/15
A lot of guys who have monster chops forget the first rule of having monster chops:

You don't always have to use the monster chops.

Neil doesn't overplay the song and make it about his playing.
Posted By: MojoHand Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/03/15
Most of the time in the world of music, less is more.....
gun geek and goalie your last post are spot on. The key is to play technical grooves and fills that feel smooth and at peace even though they may be hard to play or wildly timed. Dream theater is a prime example of the opposite of that. They can play but their music sux.
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/03/15
Steve Gadd > Mike Portnoy

In drumming, the groove is everything.
Posted By: goalie Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/03/15
Oh, and today I made some sawdust trying to perfect my stave shell technique on some innocent pine 1x3 boards.

It is coming together. Soon I will be ready for "real" wood.

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Posted By: 222Rem Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/03/15
I can't view the photo or video for some reason, but I knew who's drum set you HAD to be referring to before I clicked---------------if it was in fact UBER. Neil Peart is an insanely good drummer, and the real front man for Rush IMO.
Originally Posted by goalie
Oh, and today I made some sawdust trying to perfect my stave shell technique on some innocent pine 1x3 boards.

It is coming together. Soon I will be ready for "real" wood.

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nice work ,chief.
practice gluing them together ,also.
Posted By: BarryC Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/03/15
When it takes another musician to appreciate your work, you suck.

That's what I see with a lot of music today, great musicians who are so good they suck. I'll take a drummer like Meg White over tons of drummers who are "better". I especially see that in metal today. Talented, can play any beat you could ask for, but suck anyway.
Posted By: twofish Re: Most exquisite drum kit! - 02/03/15
Originally Posted by MojoHand
Most of the time in the world of music, less is more.....


Guess this is why I am more of a blues player than anything.

Sealbilly I'll give you that I have not "kept up" with alot of music made in the last 30 years or so especially in the Metal genre. I kind of gave up on it early in the 80's when it mostly went hair. Kind of felt like the music that I loved died about then.

Perhaps I should have chosen words more carefully than technical. The fast and furious world of speed metal and such just does not do it for me, technical prowess aside. No offense intended. grin

Goalie likely better described my feelings in his post. "But I've never seen a drummer like Peart who can hold his own with the best, is a master in his composing and making it all work in the song, to the better of the song, and not just to the better of Peart...and a work ethic of 40+ years of pushing the envelope of his craft. He's a world class musician...but there are oodles of drummers who are technically "better"."

I was listening to "2112" and "Moving Pictures" and listening to him keep 16th beats perfectly with his fills and expression impressed me once again.

I guess I am just old and stuck "back in the day". But that's okay with me! cool


twofish
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