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Posted By: Mannlicher Flathead - 03/23/15
Ran across this article on the old Flathead Ford V8 engines. My dad had a 1950 Ford Coupe, with a flathead. Three speed transmission, Smitty exhaust and triple Stromberg carburetors. One of the fastest cars in Kissimmee Florida back in 1956.
link to article
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
Posted By: Seafire Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
old girlfriend's dad had one of those in a 46 Merc, that was pretty worked. He had a set of triple deuce carbs on it also...

He'd take it out on old Hwy 12 in Central Minnesota, where there was little traffic, and light those rear tires up...

Probably not the fastest car on the road in the local area, but it certainly could hold its own.....
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
I'd bet John, that about 75% of the 'fire members have never seen a Ford flathead engine. shocked
Posted By: Oldman03 Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
I have. Know where there is one sitting in an old junk car.

Posted By: W7ACT Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I'd bet John, that about 75% of the 'fire members have never seen a Ford flathead engine. shocked


You would loose that bet here as a classmate in high school had one in a '52 Ford Coupe with a 3/4 cam in it and it ran like a "Rapped Ape!" He was on the Washington State Patrol's most wanted drivers list.
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
Not sure if his records still stand, but at one time my buddy had the worlds fastest flathead in the streamliner we built together.

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Pretty trick with reverse flow heads to prevent the heat build up from the conventional flow heads. I don't think I have any pics of the turbo motor
Posted By: CCCC Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
Several HS friends were running these in 37 to 51 Fords/Mercs and we learned how to do a lot of good things on them. (Most of those did not look anywhere as good as that pic). If my mem is any good, it was a challenge to get potential perf out of those triple Stromberg setups without some sophisticated (for us, at that time) cam revision, valve work and what we called "porting and relieving" in the intake setup.

In those days, some "in" terminology applied to the extent of the mods were "1/2 mill. 3/4 mil, full mill" etc.. And, then there were "spring shackles","chop and channel" jobs, etc..

It all was a lot of fun for inexperienced kids and not real expensive as we ran around scrounging stuff - and there was a lot available for those engines. Seems like we always were looking for Lincoln Zephyr gears, too.

I worked on those flatheads a lot but never had one of my own - never had a cute Ford/Merc coupe or tudor.

Once I had some $$ I was able to get an old 56 Chev with that Duntov designed V8 - the OHV deal was much more interesting that the flatheads. Have been a GM V8 guy ever since.
Posted By: northern_dave Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I'd bet John, that about 75% of the 'fire members have never seen a Ford flathead engine. shocked


I have 2 of em.

One runs, one don't. An f1 and a two door, both are 51's
Posted By: bucktail Re: Flathead - 03/23/15
One of my neighbors is restoring a 34 ford truck that has one in it. He had 3 of them at one point, and one 4 banger for a model A pickup he's working on.
Posted By: OIDabble Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
My 37 and 40 deluxe coupes both had flatheads.My 47 had a 56 police interceptor,with columbia two speed rear end. I miss them,paid 75 for the 37,100 for the forty and 47.I miss them.A couple of years ago seven were sold for scrap in town here.I live in the house where I bought the 37.
Posted By: MILES58 Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I'd bet John, that about 75% of the 'fire members have never seen a Ford flathead engine. shocked


You might be right, but I've owned two of them, a 53 and a 54. Had two because the parts interchanged and they always needed fixing.
Posted By: Bigbuck215 Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
I have rebuilt several of them back when. I hated doing a valve job on them. eek
Posted By: OIDabble Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
I thought the 54 was a overhead?
Posted By: Kojac Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
Yes 54 was an overhead. 53 was the last flathead.
Posted By: Ron_T Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
My best buddy and I tore down a 8BA block flat-head Ford V-8, put new piston rings on the pistons, added new rod bearings, new gaskets all around and put it all back together and had it running in four hours flat.

Loved those old flat-heads and, believe it or not, you could open the hood and see the ground on either side of the exhaust manifolds... something you sure can't do these days !!!

Incidentally, Ford went to small block (244 cubic inches, I think) overhead valve V-8s in 1954... and it "ruled" over the Chevys in '54, but when Chevy went to their ohv V-8 in 1955, the "party" was over... and it got worse in '56 and even WORSE in '57 when Chevy "punched-out" their 265 cu.in. OHV V-8 to their famous 283 cu.in. small block V-8. That engine was a "screamer" !!!

I got a new 1954 Victoria hard-top in June of '54 which, after the Chevy's beat me to death, I eventually got the engine "exchanged" for a "punched-out" V-8, 312 cu.in. block with a "track-grind" full-race, high-lift cam and a "blown" (supercharged) 3-deuce carb set-up with progressive linkage. I had the heads milled down to 12:1... had to torque the head-bolts down to 150 lbs.

It had dual exhaust pipes, glass-pak mufflers together with big, fat chrome laker-pipes coming out just behind the front wheels, running down just under the edge of the car's body and kicking out just in front of the rear wheels.

It was my "Chevy-killer"... and it DID "destroy" Chevy V-8s !!!

I use to wash that car on warm, lazy summer Saturday afternoons and would remove the plugs on the laker-pipes and just sit and listen to that big V-8 idle... ta-chukka-ta-chukka-ta-chukka... gawd, what beautiful "music" that big-cam'd V-8 made !~!~!

Those days surely were my "Happy Days"... Ohhhhhh YEAHHHH !~!~! grin


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.
Posted By: northern_dave Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
Nice!
Posted By: calikooknic Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
A buddy of mine has a 39 Merc convertible. Both of us being 46, most people that see it can't believe it doesn't have a small block Chevy or an LS swap in it. Hit me up with an FB request and you can look at a few videos of it running.

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Posted By: Seafire Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
Originally Posted by Bigbuck215
I have rebuilt several of them back when. I hated doing a valve job on them. eek


old guy I know who has since passed away was from Miles City.

he was a high school shop teacher.... Bill told me that to do a valve job, he use to loosen the heads, take the bolts off, and then give the engine a little crank, and those heads job popped right up...

have to take his word for it, but he was quite the innovative mechanical type guy... he use to work wonders with all sorts of mechanical stuff.... I use to bring him things so he'd have something to work on in the garage when he couldn't sleep at night...
Posted By: mathman Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
Originally Posted by Ron_T
I got a new 1954 Victoria hard-top in June of '54 which, after the Chevy's beat me to death, I eventually got the engine "exchanged" for a "punched-out" V-8, 312 cu.in. block with a "track-grind" full-race, high-lift cam and a "blown" (supercharged) 3-deuce carb set-up with progressive linkage. I had the heads milled down to 12:1... had to torque the head-bolts down to 150 lbs.

It had dual exhaust pipes, glass-pak mufflers together with big, fat chrome laker-pipes coming out just behind the front wheels, running down just under the edge of the car's body and kicking out just in front of the rear wheels.

It was my "Chevy-killer"... and it DID "destroy" Chevy V-8s !!!

I use to wash that car on warm, lazy summer Saturday afternoons and would remove the plugs on the laker-pipes and just sit and listen to that big V-8 idle... ta-chukka-ta-chukka-ta-chukka... gawd, what beautiful "music" that big-cam'd V-8 made !~!~!

Those days surely were my "Happy Days"... Ohhhhhh YEAHHHH !~!~! grin


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.




What was the supercharger?

12:1 compression with a supercharger?
Posted By: calikooknic Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
Originally Posted by mathman
had to torque the head-bolts down to 150

12:1 compression with a supercharger?



Mathman and I don't agree on vimens, but this is spot on.

Must have been a piston and head gasket killer too.
Posted By: tzone Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I'd bet John, that about 75% of the 'fire members have never seen a Ford flathead engine. shocked


In the 25% here! I love them. The sound engine tone can only be matched by a ford y-block and the can be worked more than a guy thinks. Some can get down right radical. There are a few of the sitting in the shed.
Posted By: kecatt Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
http://www.awesomehenry.com/

Posted By: noodlz Re: Flathead - 03/24/15
Have two sets of original Ardun heads in my "401k".

Posted By: RED53 Re: Flathead - 03/29/15
My 53 Ford F-100 sits in the garage with a 239 flathead and 4 speed. Restored 15 yrs ago with 33,000 miles. Noodlz want to cash in a set of those heads?
Posted By: P_Weed Re: Flathead - 03/29/15
The 1st vehicle I ever bought with my own money, in 1966, was a 1948 Willy's Jeep Pickup Truck,
4WD, with a Hi-Low range manual transmission, and a 1952 Ford Flathead V-8 engine conversion!

We got it running just a day before a major blizzard went through North Dakota,
and got it stuck on top of a 15 foot snow drift.

I was proud then and still am - to have owned and driven a Flathead V-8!

~ Flatheads Forever ~
Posted By: safariman Re: Flathead - 03/29/15
I have seen a few, and drag raced against a couple of them. Wonderful sounds and great looking mil when set up right.
Posted By: RED53 Re: Flathead - 03/30/15
Originally Posted by Kojac
Yes 54 was an overhead. 53 was the last flathead.

Canada used the flathead until 1954 in the Mercury M-100 Brazil used a flathead until 1969. 69's made by Chrysler.
I have a 239 in my 1953 F-100 pick up covered up in the garage. I have had several, most fun were the 60hp v-8's great in mini racers.
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: Flathead - 03/30/15
And Ford wasn't the only one to make flathead eights. If you want a really long hoodline, can't beat a Chrysler or Packard straight eight.

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Posted By: joken2 Re: Flathead - 03/30/15
Dad had a couple of late 40's early 50's flathead V8 Ford cars. Back around early 1952 when the construction project he had been working on ended, he hooked our little mobile home to a bumper hitch and pulled it with his flathead V8 Ford 2dr sedan all the way to the next construction site, approximately 400 miles away.
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