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Investigating whether a unknown object hit the windshield right before the crash. And now the Engineer claims he has no memory of the crash. Something smells in this investigation, to me.
And a brick to the windshield ain't gonna cause the train to speed up and crash!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/16/ntsb-examining-damage-on-derailed-amtrak-train/
Be interesting at what the FBI finds in it's investigation.
If somebody was throwing rocks or bricks at the train, in Philly, odds are it was a Obama supporter wink
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Be interesting at what the FBI finds in it's investigation.


There was not a second brick tosser on the grassy knoll!
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Be interesting at what the FBI finds in it's investigation.


There was not a second brick tosser on the grassy knoll!


TFF!
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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Be interesting at what the FBI finds in it's investigation.


There was not a second brick tosser on the grassy knoll!


Very good one
This whole deal smells like a cover-up.
Agreed.
Someone hacked into the train and sped it up
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
This whole deal smells like a cover-up.


Round up the usual suspects!!!!!
Are they saying the rock caused the train to accelerate by 55 mph?
And what was his other hand doing?????
Originally Posted by las
And what was his other hand doing?????


Gaining a stroke
Your killing me, Bob! Almost spit iced tea all over the IPad.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Someone hacked into the train and sped it up



Yeah, that was my first thought, too. There's been a LOT of talk about infrastructure vulnerabilities in the past several years, and this kinda smells like it.

Even the pansy engineer is unlikely to have a death wish, and running a train around a curve at 106 is admittedly dangerous.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Investigating whether a unknown object hit the windshield right before the crash. And now the Engineer claims he has no memory of the crash. Something smells in this investigation, to me.
And a brick to the windshield ain't gonna cause the train to speed up and crash!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/16/ntsb-examining-damage-on-derailed-amtrak-train/


The engineer has ALWAYS said he had no memory of the crash.

What if a brick (or any object) coming through the windshield hit him and he fell forward or backwards while on the throttle? It doesn't take much to move it.[/i][i]
Originally Posted by ratsmacker
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Someone hacked into the train and sped it up



Yeah, that was my first thought, too. There's been a LOT of talk about infrastructure vulnerabilities in the past several years, and this kinda smells like it.

Even the pansy engineer is unlikely to have a death wish, and running a train around a curve at 106 is admittedly dangerous.


If you can screw around with a centrifuge at an Iranian nuclear facility, you sure can mess with a state of the art Siemens locomotive. I think our great Govt is covering this up and deflecting towards the windshield. Stuxnet virus
Originally Posted by sackett
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Investigating whether a unknown object hit the windshield right before the crash. And now the Engineer claims he has no memory of the crash. Something smells in this investigation, to me.
And a brick to the windshield ain't gonna cause the train to speed up and crash!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/16/ntsb-examining-damage-on-derailed-amtrak-train/


The engineer has ALWAYS said he had no memory of the crash.

What if a brick (or any object) coming through the windshield hit him and he fell forward or backwards while on the throttle? It doesn't take much to move it.[/i][i]


He would have been killed with a brick thru the windshield, he had not serious head injuries of any sort.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter[/quote




He would have been killed with a brick thru the windshield, he had not serious head injuries of any sort.


At 100 MPH, that is for sure.

L.W.

Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by sackett
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Investigating whether a unknown object hit the windshield right before the crash. And now the Engineer claims he has no memory of the crash. Something smells in this investigation, to me.
And a brick to the windshield ain't gonna cause the train to speed up and crash!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/16/ntsb-examining-damage-on-derailed-amtrak-train/


Someone else before me mentioned a brick and I was commenting about that. He did get cut that required 14 staples in the head....so he did get hit with something.

The engineer has ALWAYS said he had no memory of the crash.

What if a brick (or any object) coming through the windshield hit him and he fell forward or backwards while on the throttle? It doesn't take much to move it.[/i][i]


He would have been killed with a brick thru the windshield, he had not serious head injuries of any sort.
The rock "ding" (those screens are big-time reinforced) was on the other side of the cab and just would have made a THUNK. "Oh, dang it, rocked again!" "Dispatcher, Amtrak 188. I just got rocked a mile south of Frankford Jct."
More likely he learned that running a train of the tracks at 106mph ain't the same as running an Airbus into a mountain at 500.
So listening to another interview from a former engineer who used to run that route. He said that upon leaving that station it is normal to twist the throttle up to notch 8 or as he said, "wide open" in layman's terms. It is only three miles to that curve and they accelerate up to about 80 mph, then, the throttle is released and the brakes applied.

If the windshield was hit with something and distracted the engineer right about the time he was to start slowing down, that might explain things. At those speeds and accelerations, all you would need is to be distracted for five seconds or so, and you would be screwed. Then, he had the wreck, got a concussion and doesn't remember a thing.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
So listening to another interview from a former engineer who used to run that route. He said that upon leaving that station it is normal to twist the throttle up to notch 8 or as he said, "wide open" in layman's terms. It is only three miles to that curve and they accelerate up to about 80 mph, then, the throttle is released and the brakes applied.

If the windshield was hit with something and distracted the engineer right about the time he was to start slowing down, that might explain things. At those speeds and accelerations, all you would need is to be distracted for five seconds or so, and you would be screwed. Then, he had the wreck, got a concussion and doesn't remember a thing.



That is a pretty good scenario
Originally Posted by ltppowell
More likely he learned that running a train of the tracks at 106mph ain't the same as running an Airbus into a mountain at 500.


Most likely scenario, IMO.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
So listening to another interview from a former engineer who used to run that route. He said that upon leaving that station it is normal to twist the throttle up to notch 8 or as he said, "wide open" in layman's terms. It is only three miles to that curve and they accelerate up to about 80 mph, then, the throttle is released and the brakes applied.

If the windshield was hit with something and distracted the engineer right about the time he was to start slowing down, that might explain things. At those speeds and accelerations, all you would need is to be distracted for five seconds or so, and you would be screwed. Then, he had the wreck, got a concussion and doesn't remember a thing.


Pretty damned convenient theory.
At this point, no matter what that guy did or did not do, if he doesn't go insane and make a confession, they'll never be able to charge him with anything or convict him if they do.
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