How on earth do people think you can "get a stern talk from a sheriff friend, or pray" to make this kind of sickness go away? Gotta love the religious fanatics!!!

Money is king that is for sure.

https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/c...sex-abuse-scandal--report-195532368.html

This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with keeping it under wraps so Joe Bob doesn't lose their show and $$$$$.

Especially considering that the LEO who "talked" to him is now in prison for child porn.

I can accept that he did the crime as a young teenager and may have reformed himself.....except that the utter hypocrisy of him being a moral loud mouth for focus on the family.

And the family holding themselves out the way they have in such a self-righteous manner.....methinks it's all about the money.

+1

I agree completely with the money, but they use their religion like a moral hammer (like many do) and it just gets old.

All the Duggers are about is pimping and using their children for self gain while having a Holier than thou attitude!!!

I saw it say that Duggar was 14. Did it ever say how old the females were, other than just "minor"?

That'd make a pretty big difference in how you view the story. A 14 year old diddling around with another 14 year old "minor" is a lot different than a 4 year old minor.

Problem is, some of the kids were his own sisters. It has been a cover up ever since.


Clyde

Shrug, maybe his sister seduced him.

To me it's the difference in Duggar being a teenage pervert (which lots of folks are) and a pedophile (which he oughtta burn for).

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And that effects the "cover-up" too. What was the family covering up?

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I'm no Duggar fan, but I've seen stuff like this go South quickly for families over acts that were mislabeled pedophilia.

Possibly, but a 14 year old diddling around with his 14 year old sister..?

That brings it to a whole other level of Molester/Perv...

Being as religions as the Duggars "claim" to be, they would have been familiar with the story of Amnon..

On the plus side, he ain't gay.

Not when you figure in that they are from Oklahoma

I've never seen the show and wouldn't know who the guy is except for reading this. That said, he was a 14 year old kid that touched some titties and vag. Not a good thing, but that's a big difference from being a true sex offender in my opinion.

Nah man, they're from next door Arkansas. Where everybody's got a pretty mouth....

He's done it more than one time. And when the girls where sleeping. That my friend, ins't "playing doctor"

So he was 14 then. How old is he now? Has it occured again, especially as he's gotten older? I don't enough about him one way or the other to say good or bad.

If he was 14, isn't there some crap about juvenile records being made public?

And you blindly believe the "I was sleep" story because why? TMZ confirmed it?

Super religious 13 year old gets felt up by her friend's brother. Boy talks about it. Parents hear about it. Boy confirms it. ------ Now what does girl do to stay out of trouble? She "was sleeping" and had no idea it happened.

You guys are living a sheltered life if you believe every allegation a teenage girl makes.

first time I have ever heard of Josh Duggar.

Yep, me too.

There are some folks who feel justified in telling almost any lie as long as it's "for the sake of the children".

So why then is he now admitting he was wrong?

Because he believes he was wrong. Duh.

I've done lots of things that were wrong, but that doesn't make those things criminal.

It takes a special type to stick up for a child molesting, sister groping hypocrite....especially when they are admitting what they did and agree it was wrong!

If it turns out that when he was 14 he played with some 14 year old boobies, does that make him a child molester?

It does, if one has the reading comprehension level and the critical thinking of a 6th grader, which is apparently the case with some of our 24HCF members...

Methinks there is much irony in your user name.

Wait,..wait,...wait...this is all starting to make sense.!

You played with your sisters boobies, didn't you.?

What a relief that is . . . . .

It's a good point Blue. The article just said with some of his younger siblings. They don't say the ages of the kids at the time.


Clyde

In the state I live in that is statutory rape - consenting or not - and it is against the law.

What state do you live in?

If you have a hormone crazed 14 year old boy and tell him he can't have any contact with the outside world and that when he does date he'll be escorted by his parents who won't let him touch the girl until he's married.....

And then you stick him in a house full of boobies, odds are that some of those boobies are gonna get touched, regardless of who they belong to.

Raise a kid in a weird household and weird things are gonna happen.

You didn't touch a boob until you were 18?

I bet if they dig deep enough they'll find out that Josh also sucked his mom's tits

And since when is second base "rape"?

And I bet she wanted him to.

Wow, critical thinking truly is a skill in today's world...

It is statutory rape against the 14 year old or the 14 year old?

That's my understanding of the law. It's unfortunate since I repeatedly raped myself at age 14, but I never told and was never prosecuted....

Glad to say "I have no idea who any of these people are", and plan to keep it that way.

They were both raped so jail the both of them
Oh and it just came across the home page their show just got cancelled.

That's good news.

I'm shocked. They should call Phil Robertson for advice.

The mainstream media will do anything to tear down "Christian" families, including reporting half of a story to fit their agenda.




And a ton of fools here will follow right along.

True, we only have half the story....the half from the Duggar perp....who apologized and substantiated that he was in fact the subject of the undredacted report.

The half we don't have is from the victims.

We don't need a victim. We have TMZ and Paradiddle's misunderstanding of the law.

As Dobson says in his book, "how to raise boys", never ever leave a 12-16 year old boy alone with young children. Ever. Doesn't matter how good the child. Puberty does weird things to boys.

You think incest is all that uncommon? Think again. So apparently the guy tried to diddle his sister(s) during a period (age 14)when his blood stream was virtually pure testosterone and he was walking around with a perpetual erection. Yeah, most of us prolly wouldn't have done what he did, but not sure he deserves a life-long label as a sex pervert for something he did as an over-sexed teen. Now, if he'd tried to fondle another boy, well Katie-bar-the-door on the condemnation in that case!

Seriously - what 14-year-old boy never copped a feel when he had the opportunity?

So what if it was a sister - It's the South , right? Everybody's just one chromosome off the same DNA strand, right?

I'd be reaaallllllly surprised if the law in ANY state says that 2nd base is statutory rape. Really, really, REALLY surprised.

You might want to post a link to verify your statement.

I couldn't agree more. Thank you for having some sense.

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I played doctor I'll show you mine you show me yours touchy feely with our 12 YO baby sitter.

She had hairs on it and lived next door. I was 7 and stiffer n a new broom that I had no idea what to do with...
For 2 or 3 years she came back for more.

My parents liked go out dinner and dancing couple nights a week.
Little did they know they were buying me a ho just to keep my mouth shut.

Anyway, I'll never forget what it was to be a pedophile, best most erect years of my life.
And I'll never forget them hairs, neither.

So every 15 year old boy, who slept with a 14-17 year ild female is a pedophile, a rapist, and an all around sexual deviant?


Some of you people had childhoods that really really sucked!

You gotta love how the MSM, which never misses an opportunity to glorify adultery and which is positively giddy about transgender sex and homosexuality, becomes downright puritanical over a teenage Christian boy copping a feel 20 years ago.

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I am by no means a Duggar fan.............but this. For sure.

Every poster on here who lost their cherry as a Freshman in High school should turn themselves in to the PO-Leece

Yep, nobody would probably give a chit if that "Christian" boy hadn't been running around waiving is finger at all the other "sinners" for the last 7-8 years.

He mentioned that he didn't ask Christ to come into his life until after his transgressions....


Convenient and to be expected of a 'Christian'...


But again, I don't think religion has much to do with this...just raging hormones and a double digit IQ

The parents are also impugned by the report. The last incident of abuse happened well over a year after the first incident had become known to the parents, which they had reported 3 months after finding out about it. Yet they never reported subsequent incidents, choosing instead to handle at their level. Probably because he would have been removed from the home and prosecuted. This course of action by them endangered their daughters, and whoever else became a victim subsequent to their failure to report.

I need a favor bro, can you please post bail?

Fugg who's paying my bail...i spent every monday night riding hone from away football games getting [bleep] in the back of the bus from the cheerleaders

Wow, you really have us figured out. I am sure that we have all earned your opinion of us. The next time we bust azz to help someone rebuild their lives or improve their standing in this word, I will make sure to tell them up front what awful people we are.

I've watched the Duggars many times and never seen them to be self righteous or to accuse anyone of anything. My gut says you are simply biased against Christians.

Christians aren't any different than anyone else. We don't have any special ability to resist sin. We simply rely on Christ's forgiveness and hopefully his love will transform us to love also and want to be better people.

+1 to the R_H comments.

A 14 year old boy that touched a minor girl?!!!

OH TEH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pondering this. 'Salt of the earth'...salt CHANGES the taste of stuff. It's SUPPOSED to make a difference. 'Light of the world'...light ILLUMINATES the darkness. It's SUPPOSED to make a difference.

Christians (adults in particular) aren't supposed to be 'of this world', although while they are 'in this world' they should strive to make a difference...a positive difference.

Here's a link to the police report.

http://m.imgur.com/a/zqPMi

I think someone needs to have a Bruce Jenner half hour special dedicated about what the Duggar kid did when he was 14......

This^^^^. Sounds like some are jealous holier than though types, or semigay and not curious.

A freshman? You sorry lowlife bastid. Took me 2 more years.

Sheet, I'm downright embarrassed to say how long it took me.

I agree with you brother. I suppose I should have said that we aren't any different in our ability to resist sin.Everyone sins,even Christians. I just get very tired of non believers pointing fingers with the "see I told you so" attitude.

I am saddened and compassionate about Duggar's situation. What I won't do is to use his sin to make me feel better about mine,nor will I allow the sin of a young boy to color my view of all the good he and his family have done.

+1 except imho it's not bias, it's hatred. Haters are gonna hate.

What's Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, and Lena Dunham's opinion on this?

I must be lucky.. I have no clue who this person is, and really don't give a damn one way or the other...

The Duggars are (were) one of the last vestiges of clean, family friendly programming on television.

You should care because the media is once again doing everything they can to vilify the traditional, Christian family.

The losers and guilty love company. You dont see them pointing fingers at this.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/slides...l-party-at-the-national-hotel-7622775/39

Christians have to bear some, if not most, of the responsibility for the negative light in which they are seen. You are what you are, not what you tell people you are.

What real Christians claim they are sinless?

Accusers are minions of the Great Accuser.

Speaking of sinners....

how many points are given for taking out Grandma in a cross walk....

with and without a walker???

That's an important part of this story.

I have a problem with the whole underpinnings of the Duggars TV show, though, and it comes from my experiences in the past in fundamentalist/evangelical Christian circles. It occurred to me many, many years ago that many of the folks who sought the limelight in church circles were not the healthiest people I knew (psychologically speaking).

The healthy Christians who make up the backbone of most good churches are solid, healthy, happy, folks... and from an entertainment point of view, dull and uninteresting. Almost inevitably, it seems, the ones who seek (and get) the most attention aren't exactly salt of the earth.

I worked for 4 years as a teacher and vice principal of a Christian school back in the early 80's. There was a lot of hoopla and flash about the host church, and the school itself. I didn't care much for that part of it, just did my bit to the best of my ability. The leader of the whole deal was a great pastor, a wonderfully charismatic guy who made everybody feel great about themselves and their church/school. Eventually the whole thing came apart, in no small part because this wonderful pastor was screwing the principal's wife (and half a dozen other prominent married women in the congregation), among several other scandals, including at least one family where sexual abuse of daughters/sisters was going on. I had moved on a year or two before this all came to light, thank God, but many good friends went through this and it wrecked a lot of lives.

I wish I could say that was an exceptional case, but I'm aware of many other cases like this. It doesn't seem to be as big a problem among more traditional church denominations, for what that's worth.

YMMV. This whole thing saddens me on multiple levels.

I heard recently that over 50% of men, and 42% of women, will end up cheating on their significant other.

Yeah, antlers, I've read similar numbers. I know from my own observations as a medical practitioner that an awful lot of people have trouble staying faithful. And that's not just the Christians, either.

It's a pretty sad statistic.

Kind of a tempest in a teapot. A good excuse for some folks to gloat at another family's downfall or shortcomings. Even if it is a 14 year old young man with serious hormonal issues, I have to say they put themselves in a bad position by sort of lecturing other folks. Jesus' main problem is not the attacks from his enemies, but the behavior of his friends





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I'm not sure the Duggars are really a traditional, christian family.

They belong to the "quiverfull" movement, espoused by Bill Gothard, and his organization, Advanced Training Institute.

There are a fair number of questions about his morals and whether it is a cult or not.

YMMV, you can certainly do a search on ATI or Gothard, and make up your own mind.

Sycamore

TV is for money...all BS.

I bet they are laying low on this.

With all the problems in the world wgaf about this bullspit. All of ya get a fuggin life.

It's a vagina, not a clown car.

I would have to agree, The Duggars are not a traditional Christian family in the sense most middle Americans consider "traditional". They hold to the Quiverfull movement, which is a fundamentalist philosophy (I don't know that it qualifies as a sect, or a cult) that adheres to very rigid concepts of morality.

A lot of the grouchy bastards who post on this forum regularly about the loss of traditional American values appear to be in agreement with the basic principles of Quiverfull folks, IMHO.

But having lived among folks of this strict fundamentalist mindset myself in the past, and being a long-ago graduate of Bill Gothard's Institue in Basic Youth Conflicts (now Institute in Basic Life Principles) I would not care to embrace their philosophy or lifestyle myself at all, at all. It seems like a sensible program until you start to dig into the nuts & bolts of it, and actually try to live it. Highly restrictive, inflexible, judgmental... these are terms that come to mind. They don't hold with liquor, dancing, screwing, divorcing, tobacco, etc... basically, they're Uber-Baptists. Makes me shudder just to type that!!!

Her body has to be destroyed. Child birth is hell on women!

They make up for it in spades...!

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Duggar boy was 15. One of the sisters he was diddling was 5 at the time...

"The report goes on to say that sister then told her father, Jim Bob, what had happened, and shortly after that Josh was sent to a program to do manual labor."

This is way beyond a 15 year old playing with 14 year old sisters boobies as has been surmised.

Sickening.

You must live in the state of confusion.

So is Bill Clinton

Who is Duggar?

Everything you need there to get 'Ol Duggar off the hook....maybe even marry his sister, dog or staircase!