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I don't know that DONALD needs to run third party...just threaten to run third party...let the games begin...

From  Kevin Cirilli and Bob Cusac writing at The Hill:
Donald Trump says the chances that he will launch a third-party White House run will “absolutely” increase if the Republican National Committee is unfair to him during the 2016 primary season.

“The RNC has not been supportive. They were always supportive when I was a contributor. I was their fair-haired boy,” the business mogul told The Hill in a 40-minute interview from his Manhattan office at Trump Tower on Wednesday. “The RNC has been, I think, very foolish.”

Pressed on whether he would run as a third-party candidate if he fails to clinch the GOP nomination, Trump said that “so many people want me to, if I don’t win.”
Read the rest of the story at The Hill.
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.
Yeah, but if the RNC would shut there fuggin mouth. And be like every other citizen that is entitled to one vote. Then get behind the candidate that the people pick. Instead of the caniving, manipulating, POS that they are. That have cramed candidates down the people's throats for years. There wouldn't be this worry. Good for Donald for sticking it so deep up their arse that their tonsils hurt.


Take care, Willie
RNC needs to be beat over the head with a “creditable” third-party threat.

That is how a good negotiator like DONALD has his way in his deals
Ross all over again!
"IF" he could successfully pull off a 3rd party win, it could be the catalyst that changes American politics forever. Many of us believe 80-90% in one of the two parties, but if it were to include more choices......could be interesting.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


considering the candidates the GOP is offering it's members right now, I think another dhimmicrat president is guaranteed. We were burned by two George Bush administrations, and then blindsided by two failed attempts involving McCain and Romney. Both of those were unelectable, because the CONSERVATIVES balked, and would not vote.

If Trump does run third party, I bet the turn out for his candidacy will astound folks, and the GOP will see it's lowest voter approval in history.
I think the RNC will play nice!! Even though they are lower than whale chit. And are basically a sinking ship if they keep their heads crammed up their arse. If not they will insure their existence will be irrelevant. Rally on Rove,and Peepis!!! LMAO



Take care, Willie
The RNC owns the Republican party. They choose the candidates and the people who identify as conservatives are just supposed to shut their traps, keep their opinions to themselves, and vote for whoever the party sticks in front of them.

Even when it's McCain and Romney.

Right now, the people of the Republican party are favoring Trump across the board.

The proper response from the RNC would be to support the candidate that the people support.

But that's not how it works.

The RNC will attempt to manipulate the people's opinions in an attempt to direct them towards the candidate that the RNC wants.

That's why Americans end up with so many Democratic administrations.

It's the RNC's fault. Not the voters.
In all honesty. They should be just a voter, and spectator. Until the nominee is declared. Then poor money like heII to insure a victory. But elitist don't ever lose their spots. Just lose elections.



Take care, Willie
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


Makes me sick but if he does go third party we bay be beyond any hope for this country. The Dems will win and we will see first hand what the end of Rome looked like.
If Trump decides to run 3rd party, it's his business. I wouldn't mind seeing people running 4th, 5th, and even 6th party, also.

Either that or just completely do away with political parties and have individuals run on their own merit and personal ideology.

The reason this country is so fugged up is because we're only given a choice between crooked ass party "A" and crooked ass party "B".

,..and the leadership of crooked ass party "A" and crooked ass party "B" go golfing together on Sundays.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


They're going to anyway. Sticking your head in the sand by thinking diferently
Best thing that could happen is Bernie Sanders running as a third party candidate. He's a socialist running in the Democratic primary system but if he is competitive and Hillary and the DNC alienate him he could run as a third party candidate easily. It would be fascinating to see Trump and Sanders running as independent candidates.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
I don't know that DONALD needs to run third party...just threaten to run third party...let the games begin...

From  Kevin Cirilli and Bob Cusac writing at The Hill:
Donald Trump says the chances that he will launch a third-party White House run will “absolutely” increase if the Republican National Committee is unfair to him during the 2016 primary season.

“The RNC has not been supportive. They were always supportive when I was a contributor. I was their fair-haired boy,” the business mogul told The Hill in a 40-minute interview from his Manhattan office at Trump Tower on Wednesday. “The RNC has been, I think, very foolish.”

Pressed on whether he would run as a third-party candidate if he fails to clinch the GOP nomination, Trump said that “so many people want me to, if I don’t win.”
Read the rest of the story at The Hill.
I would guess Trump thinks anyone he can't control or buy is unfair to him. This has likely been his end game all along, with the promise of government largess to follow. Trump's always been a player and I have little doubt the American people are just being played.
Originally Posted by high_country_
"IF" he could successfully pull off a 3rd party win, it could be the catalyst that changes American politics forever. Many of us believe 80-90% in one of the two parties, but if it were to include more choices......could be interesting.


There's a lot of people out there that would like to have another option besides the liberal Democrat party and the slightly less liberal Republican party.
I said early on that Trump's vanity would not let him quit if he failed to get the Republican nomination.
He talks big and says things that are good to hear, but he loves himself more than he loves the country.
I see him as a dangerous enemy that will give the Democrats time to finish off what's left of the country.
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


They're going to anyway. Sticking your head in the sand by thinking diferently


Nice attitude. With your enthusiastic help we're sure to rally behind a true conservative and take back America. No wait, you'll be sitting on the couch eatin' Cheetos.

Get YOUR head out of the sand, and work to help elect a candidate that will work for us!
Originally Posted by Mannlicher

considering the candidates the GOP is offering it's members right now, I think another dhimmicrat president is guaranteed.


Ted Cruze is a good candidate. So is Scott Walker.


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If Trump does run third party, I bet the turn out for his candidacy will astound folks, and the GOP will see it's lowest voter approval in history.

Possible, but not likely. I hope you are right.

Believe me, I'd love to see a game-changer. Maybe Trump can bludgeon the parties into cooperation, but more likely they will join forces with each other and torpedo him at every turn.
Originally Posted by mbhunt
Ross all over again!


People were given a chance to vote for a non-politician with a credible chance of winning. a man who was speaking the truth.

If the people who threw their votes away on Bush had voted for Perot, Bill Clinton would likely have ended up in an Arkansas jail, and Hillary along with him.

But comparing Trump to Ross Perot is a huge insult to the latter.

Perot was the last chance we had to take our country back. and idiots can only vilify him for trying.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
If Trump decides to run 3rd party, it's his business. I wouldn't mind seeing people running 4th, 5th, and even 6th party, also.


Six minimally , 7,8 or 9 even better.

Amazing that after 200 plus years of electing attorneys and highly educated politicians to office,election after election, and figuring out that at best we're living in a corrupt shyte-hole on its way to overt communism ...and it was them that brought us here....

It would seem evident that not electing a "Trump" is only going to prolong what we have now.

Wake up you idiot peckerwoods , you're being duped.

Jesse Ventura ran a third party against Hubert humphrey's son in one of the bluest states and won. And Jesse is an idiot! A third party can win when people are fed up and I believe people from both parties are fed up. It will be fun to watch.
Anyone who vtes a certian "party" is an idot vote for the best person for the job
Trump is saying what he needs to say to get considered in the Republican convention.

Trump needs to get the Republican nomination to run for president.

In the poll I read most he is doing very well.

Here Trump has 18% to only 14 for Bush.

Republican nomination poll.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


Well there is this or a Dem with an R in front of his name.

I'd love to see the shackles of the two parties thrown off.

Obviously the Reps don't care about who their constituents favor.

More proof that they need to go, or we need to be more serious about demolishing our two-party system, or both.
Originally Posted by winchester70
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


They're going to anyway. Sticking your head in the sand by thinking diferently


Nice attitude. With your enthusiastic help we're sure to rally behind a true conservative and take back America. No wait, you'll be sitting on the couch eatin' Cheetos.

Get YOUR head out of the sand, and work to help elect a candidate that will work for us!


Yep. You have it all figured out. I don't even like cheetos.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Amazing that after 200 plus years of electing attorneys and highly educated politicians to office,election after election, and figuring out that at best we're living in a corrupt shyte-hole on its way to overt communism ...and it was them that brought us here....
It would seem evident that not electing a "Trump" is only going to prolong what we have now.

Pretty much. If you keep doin' the same things you've always done...then you're gonna continue to get the same things you've always gotten.
Originally Posted by winchester70
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


They're going to anyway. Sticking your head in the sand by thinking diferently


Nice attitude. With your enthusiastic help we're sure to rally behind a true conservative and take back America. No wait, you'll be sitting on the couch eatin' Cheetos.

Get YOUR head out of the sand, and work to help elect a candidate that will work for us!


Anyone who thinks ANY politician can "take back America" is delusional.
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A third party can win when people are fed up and I believe people from both parties are fed up. It will be fun to watch.



It'll even be more fun when the cok suckers pass laws so you can turn in your gun grin
I am thinking I would rather see a Ted Cruze Allen West ticket.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.

Maybe HE will take the White House.
Trump is drawing from the People not the Parties.
[quote][/q “Trump Threatens Third-Party Run”uote]

He might as well because the Republicans haven't offered us anything worth voting for in the last two elections.....and I won't vote Democrat no matter who it is.....
Unfortunately, Ross Perot got what he wanted.
The election of Billy Boy Clinton.
Ross Perot danced the night away after Billy won the election.

He even later asked where his pat on the back was for
his play in getting Billy Boy elected.
He was supposed to get some favoritism from Billy for
his help on getting Billy elected.

Yes, Ross Perot was instrumental in getting Clinton elected.
"Yes, Ross Perot was instrumental in getting Clinton elected."

Then Romney was instrumental in getting Obama re-elected.

Did you vote for Perot, Bush, or Clinton in '92 ?
Originally Posted by efw
Anyone who thinks ANY politician can "take back America" is delusional.


You might consider paying a little closer attention to what's been going on in the senate for the last two years, before spouting off. Ted Cruz is no career politician, he stands for "we the people".
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


Well there is this or a Dem with an R in front of his name.

Ted Cruz is not a socialist.

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I'd love to see the shackles of the two parties thrown off.

Obviously the Reps don't care about who their constituents favor.

More proof that they need to go, or we need to be more serious about demolishing our two-party system, or both.


That would be nice, but with the way our voting is set up in the Constitution (winner take all), 2 parties is as natural and inevitable as farmers plowing in rows.

Having a multi-party system requires a different system of voting. https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/polit/damy/BeginnningReading/types.htm

I'm not so sure I like the idea of Communists and Greens having any representation. (At least anymore than they have now via the Democrat party)
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by winchester70
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by BarryC
Now *that* would screw things up and pretty much guarantee that a Dem takes the White House.


They're going to anyway. Sticking your head in the sand by thinking diferently


Nice attitude. With your enthusiastic help we're sure to rally behind a true conservative and take back America. No wait, you'll be sitting on the couch eatin' Cheetos.

Get YOUR head out of the sand, and work to help elect a candidate that will work for us!


Anyone who thinks ANY politician can "take back America" is delusional.


HEY!!! Don't forget your Cheetos!
Originally Posted by winchester70
Originally Posted by efw
Anyone who thinks ANY politician can "take back America" is delusional.


You might consider paying a little closer attention to what's been going on in the senate for the last two years, before spouting off. Ted Cruz is no career politician, he stands for "we the people".



TED has been in a very good position to walk the walk and has done more than most freshman Senators.
DONALD has not had that opportunity yet; still talking the talk.
No one the Republican Party has running at the moment has a chance of winning except Trump
Originally Posted by bea175
No one the Republican Party has running at the moment has a chance of winning except Trump



Trump has no chance at all of making onto the GOP ticket.
But his battle will be fun to watch.
Here's my obscure prediction on what might happen.

If Trump doesn't get the nomination, Walker or Cruz will.

Then Trump will run as a 3rd party candidate.

If it looks like Hillery is going to win and he's not, he'll drop out at the last minute and throw his votes to the GOP candidate.

It would be good to have someone running that would expose the stupid crap both the dems and repubs have been doing. I say take the filter off, and let the hits keep on coming. I don't like Donald, but a lot needs to be said and I hope he says it.
I think Trump does have an excellent chance of getting on the Republican ticket and winning if he does get on.

He still leads in this poll.

Trump leads in this RCP poll.
Lets see, Trump has already upset a major Mexican drug lord, and it looks like he might be upsetting senior figures in the Republican/Industrial/Military complex..

Could we see another Kennedy type assignation?
Assignation or assassination?

As long as doesn't screw Marilyn Monroe, piss off the Cuban expats or select a vice-president from Texas he should be okay.

He doesn't seem to be into necrophilia, so Marilyn is safe.


Isn't Cruz a Texas senator of Cuban descent?

Hmm, Donald might want to stay away from convertibles... shocked
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Assignation or assassination?

As long as doesn't screw Marilyn Monroe, piss off the Cuban expats or select a vice-president from Texas he should be okay.

He doesn't seem to be into necrophilia, so Marilyn is safe.


Hmm, isn't Cruz a Texas senator of Cuban descent?

Better watch your six, Donald... shocked


Assassination...But I swear this keyboard has a mind of its own some times! grin
I will not vote for Hitlery and I will not vote for another Bush so I guess this will be the first vote since I was eligible to vote that I will not be voting in.

Both party's have had a key place in destroying this country while stuffing their pockets.

My Uncle gave up on this country on the last vote.

He always told everyone that he met and I quote ( if you do not vote you can not say anything about how the country is being run).

I am about to give up on fighting the corruption.

Votes do not matter any more I has already been fixed.

At least I am almost there with that attitude.

If they do not give us an honest candidate that the people really want this go around I am done.
I like your coining her name as Hitlery.

cool
Originally Posted by Savage_99
I like your coining her name as Hitlery.

cool


I was not the first. Just a copy cat but it fits.
Originally Posted by bea175
No one the Republican Party has running at the moment has a chance of winning except Trump


You might check into his 60+% national negative rating. About 2/3 of Americans cant stand the guy.

I agree with his recent statements, but Trump is a dickwad showman, not material for a President.

Cruz is and would make a great President, IMO.


A 3rd party run by him will insure another Clinton administration. He has no chance of winning and every expectation of doing exactly what Perot did...elect Clintons.
Where do we read?

"You might check into his 60+% national negative rating"
Originally Posted by winchester70
Originally Posted by efw
Anyone who thinks ANY politician can "take back America" is delusional.


You might consider paying a little closer attention to what's been going on in the senate for the last two years, before spouting off. Ted Cruz is no career politician, he stands for "we the people".


There is no man, no matter how great, who can "take back America". Anyone who thinks there is, is delusional and likely ignorant of what has been going on in DC for a hellofalot longer than two friggin years.

And yes, Ted Cruz is a politician. And I don't say that as a cut; just a fact.

The problems we face aren't of the nature that allows any sane person to believe that elections can change things. Unelected career bureaucrats hold so much sway under the direction of so many years of bad laws that any one man hasn't the power to make the difference necessary to tip the balance.

Fight the good fight, but be realistic before "spouting off".
Ted Cruz has as much chance of being nominated as The Donald.

So yes, it'll be Dem or Dem-R.

Been predetermined. Sorry just a fact.
I'm with you; don't care for em. sick
If you think a president can't make a difference, how can you explain the changes Obama has made?

I think a better way to characterize it might be to say that to change the country back to conservative values is the real uphill battle. But yes, one man can make a huge difference. I just think it was easier for Obama to effect change since the predisposition of activists is liberalism. Reversing liberalism is difficult because conservative people aren't activists by nature so are more of a silent majority. JMHO.
Good way to say it.

Of course the reason THAT one man made such a significant difference is because he was "going WITH the flow" of the system.
Originally Posted by Fireball2

If you think a president can't make a difference, how can you explain the changes Obama has made?

I think a better way to characterize it might be to say that to change the country back to conservative values is the real uphill battle. But yes, one man can make a huge difference. I just think it was easier for Obama to effect change since the predisposition of activists is liberalism. Reversing liberalism is difficult because conservative people aren't activists by nature so are more of a silent majority. JMHO.



THIS:
Already answered above; he didn't make a difference AGAINST (ie taking BACK the country; reversal from current flow) the flow of the system as a real Conservative would have to.

Anyone who can't see the difference is delusional.

And yes, that "man" was in the generic, and includes "The Sarah".
Keep up the good work Donald!! WE the Conservative and Libertarian Patriots love you! We the People will speak on election day. The hell with the RNC and the liberal puke dems! A bunch of NWO pukes!
Originally Posted by efw
Already answered above; he didn't make a difference AGAINST (ie taking BACK the country; reversal from current flow) the flow of the system as a real Conservative would have to.

Anyone who can't see the difference is delusional.

And yes, that "man" was in the generic, and includes "The Sarah".


I voted for Goldwater and Johnson made one-hell-a-difference.
I voted for McCain and Obama made one-hell-of-a-difference.

I voted for Reagan and he made one-hell-of-a-difference.
Originally Posted by Savage_99
Where do we read?

"You might check into his 60+% national negative rating"


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ins-positive-territory/story?id=32450539


http://whotv.com/2015/07/22/poll-cl...tleground-states-trump-is-biggest-loser/

Even FOX polls showed him with a 2/3 nationwide unfavorability rating. They mentioned it many times in the last week.


I agree with what he says. I don't agree he stands a remote chance of being elected, and I don't trust him.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
RNC needs to be beat over the head with a “creditable” third-party threat.

That is how a good negotiator like DONALD has his way in his deals


The GOP would rather give it to the democrats than have their good old boy's club exposed.
Originally Posted by luv2safari


Even FOX polls showed him with a 2/3 nationwide unfavorability rating. They mentioned it many times in the last week.


I agree with what he says. I don't agree he stands a remote chance of being elected, and I don't trust him.


I love the way he says things; even things I disagree with. He plays like a non-politician who has nothing to lose because that's what he is.

He, like RP Sn before him, runs not because he can win but to sway the tone of the field, and clearly from what others have said here about Sen Cruz he has done that.

Good for him, f-polls and f-"the people"; the former has given us McLame & Romney, the latter Pres Obama.
I don't think that the GOP would mind a more liberal 3rd party being in the race but they sure don't want a more conservative 3rd party option to be available to the voters.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
"Yes, Ross Perot was instrumental in getting Clinton elected."

Then Romney was instrumental in getting Obama re-elected.

Did you vote for Perot, Bush, or Clinton in '92 ?


Matters not at all who I voted for.

No, I would never vote for any Communist Democrap, and they are
all communist no matter what the Democraps want to call
themselves.

The problem now, is, we are going towards the New World Order.

I don't give much hope for us or the World. The world is going
Socialist (Communist) no matter what.
The ultimate result will be World Leader by someone and that
will lead to Armageddon.
We are led by the powers that be in this world and now there
is little we will be able to do about it.
There, I said it, Its not a pretty picture.
The voter doesn't really matter anymore.
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