Trump has high praise for a single-payer health care system (which is what Socialist Bernie Sanders and the Dems want---O-care was just intended to grease the skids in that direction).

The article from the Weekly Standard also references a poll showing Trump's supporters aren't all that conservative and what they like about Trump is his brash demeanor!


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...health-care-system-it-works_1006583.html

The Weekly Standard is Neocon Central. The more they dump on Trump, the more confident I feel about him.

Truth!

TRUTH!!!!! Puppets of the RNC, Along with Fox News gently incognito.



Take care, Willie

I've learned to listen to what people actually say and do themselves rather than what others, especially their opponents say about them. I'll let The Donald explain his own position.

As someone who benefitted most of his life from health care earned tax-free from my employer, I understand that it was, in effect, subsidized partially by the tax code. That benefit could have easily been passed on to everyone by a simple change to the tax code. What we got instead was a situation where the entire productive population ends up paying for the insurance of the rest of the county through higher premiums and taxes on stuff not even related to health care. Way to go O!

Bristoe, I feel badly for anyone who is as challenged with simple logic as you clearly are. That the Weekly Standard published Trump's many quotes favcring single-payer health care is no evidence whatsoever that Trump did not speak those quotes; it is no evidence whatsoever that Trump does not believe what he said or mean what he said. The facts are simple and they are this: Trump has repeatedly, over the years, stated that he favors a Canadian style-single payer health care system. Some neo-con organ did not put those words in Trump's mouth, Trump put those words in his own mouth. It is also indubitably true that the far-left wants a single-payer system.

There is good reason to believe that complexities and flaws were intentionally built into O-care on the assumption that when O-care began to collapse of its own weight (which it surely will do) that it would make the ultimate goal of single-payer health care more easily attainable. Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are the only candidates in the field who have ever stated support for a single-payer, socialized health care system.

Complaining that the Weekly Standard is the who published Trump's quotes does not make the fact that Trump said what he said any less true.

Jordan

Trump isn't advocating single payer today. Here's what he said:

"It could have worked in a different age"

Anything else you want to say?

Well, for practical purposes in this election, there are only two political parties: Republican and Democrat. Since you are a evident critic of the Republican Party and since you apparently support for president a former Democrat and inveterate Clinton supporter who favors socialized medicine, may we presume you are a Demonrat? I see no other logical conclusion.

That's because you're retarded.

Yes. What has changed since Trump praised the Canadian system (what, a few years ago?) that make single-payer health care (which Trump has favored) unworkable today? Only the sychophantic (and the gullible who perhaps actually favor a RINO?) would let a candidate (a former Demonrat no less!) off that easy on repeated statements so antithetical to conservative, limited government principles.

And yet another master of Third Grade elementary school logic enters the fray! I accept your name-calling for the concession that it is.

His stance on the subject.

Why Does Carly want to give legal status to illegals?

see?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/15/carly-fiorina-open-legal-status-adult-illegal-immi/

Well, I like to think of Mr. Trump as a supporter of "Romneycare"

Sycamore

Very astute.

And aptly put.

Why does Trump want to give legal status to illegals? He has favored amnesty. Fiornia has been very clear: she does not favor a pathway to citizenship for people who have come here illegally. Trump does favor such a pathway. BTW Fiorina was harping (no pun intended ) on illegal immigration years before Trump ever took up the issue.

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Trump isn't advocating single payer today. Here's what he said:

"It could have worked in a different age"

Anything else you want to say?
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What age would that have been? 5 years ago, 10, or 15 years ago? When?

I do not think that Thrump has ever claimed to be conservative. I may be mistaken...or perhaps he has come out of the closet?

Trump has knocked the dust off of a whole lotta people who are now paying attention to what is happening. If only a handful catch a glimpse of the underhanded, criminal and completely disgusting activities of the current administration, Trump has accomplished what the GOP has failed miserably to do for two terms now.

Trump is playing the tune and now even the media is dancing to it. Role reversal is evidently very painful for a select group of talking heads and I don't think some of those calling the shots for so long, take kindly to someone stealing the leverage they have been working so hard on.

People can hate on Trump all they want and no doubt they will, but the truth is he is stirring the pot and shaking some trees with hornet nest in them. He is doing exactly what this country needs and something the right could not accomplish and something the left has feared for a while now. Even if the man never gets elected, he has done a tremendous amount of good for this nation just by waking people up.

For the most part, I agree with this. The fact that he has driven Jeb Bush into the political wilderness is huge. The issue however is whether at some point a Trump candidacy hurts the change to elect a conservative Republican more than it helps. Time will tell.

Trump is the only person in the GOP field of candidates who has generated enough enthusiasm to win in the general election. Cruz has his fans too. The rest of them are about as exciting as a pan of dishwater.

Trump isn't my ideal candidate. But he's on the right side of a lot of issues.

At best, he's going level the trade deficit playing field and generate some employment for the people,...maybe slow down illegal immigration quite a bit.

At worst, he's not going to be openly hostile to American values like the Democrats are.

I'll tell you what I think.

Trump threw his hat in the ring and started out with some very strong language on the illegal immigration issue. I think he was just seeing if it would play,...and it did.

Then the machine tried to purge him and it only made his popularity go up.

Now that he's seen what has transpired and how popular he has become, he's all in.

He's having a hell of a lot of fun. He's one of those hyper competitive people and stuff like this is what keeps him energized.

I don't think he's a saint. In fact, I suspect that in his business dealings he's probably been a stone cold azzhole at times.

But the Presidency would be the crowning achievement of his life, and I think that he would work his ass off to make it a positive thing both for himself and for America.

This is a huge challenge for him and if the people make him President, he's going to do as much as he is capable of to show them that they picked the right man for the job.

,...and it's probably not for *the people*, necessarily. But it's "win win".

Trump wants to demonstrate that he could be a damn good President just to satisfy his own ego. But to do that he's got to take care of America.

So I'm all for letting him stroke his ego if it means that doing so will benefit America.

Trump isn't advocating single payer today. Here's what he said:

"It could have worked in a different age"

Anything else you want to say?
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What age would that have been? 5 years ago, 10, or 15 years ago? When? [/quote]



Yes. Single payer would not have worked in any age.

Single payer healthcare isn't a part of Trump's plans.

That's the beginning and the end of it as far as the voting public is concerned.

I think you have a very good sum-up of Trump at this early stage in the election.
Except I don't see any “purge.” Just a lot of people disagreeing with the front-runner.
And Trump IS Neocon Central.

You never do. But it's as predictable as the sunrise.

The machine has its candidate.

Anyone who gets in the way is subject to an attempted purge by the political machine.

So anyone who disagrees with Trump is part of your “purge”
Is Ron Paul now part of the “Machine”?

No,...Ron Paul was purged himself. He disagrees with Trump on ideological grounds. But Ron Paul has no control over FOX, MSNBC, CNN or the networks. He has no influence with the RNC.

Political purges are orchestrated by the news sources which are the government's propaganda outlets.

Ron Paul is just a citizen with an opinion.

My how times have changed...

No azzhole just another pissed off voter tired of losers being shoved down the Americans throats!!! I don't have a love affair with any worthless empty suits. And welcome Trump, Carson, and Fiorena to the party. But it appears you walk in step with Rance Pepis, and the dick with ears Carl Rove. As for me it does me pleasure to see the whole bunch. With their dicks in their mouth. Not knowing whether to chew, suck, or spit it out. Let's be patient and see if all of the know it alls piss with Trump.


Take care, Willie

B,

I enjoy the hell out most everything you post....but I never pegged you for an optimist.

This website is full of people who bitch about city-people, crooked shysters, yankees, draft-dodgers, job-exporters, self-centered egotistical jerks, and generally low class mofos.

Somebody shows up who meets all of these criteria, runs for president, and has half the people on here in a swoon.



I can't tell if Trump is a plant to make hillary look good, or JEB!

Sycamore

Just as long as he brings some of his,"stone cold azzhole" friends along,to do the countrys business.
I think we'll be fine..

dave

Well,...he's been rhetorically slapping the hell out of both of them.

He's not a plant.

Trump has supported a single payer system for years, have you guys been under a rock? His support for a single payer sustain is well established and has a strong base as a businessman. Here is your quote.



and he is right! A health work force means workers who show up to work and are productive...Duh?


and .....




Trump spews out all kinds of junk to "Chum" the base and the base eats it up without ever checking the facts.


Do some fact checking guys and you will see Trump is feeding you what you want to hear and in the process he is gutting your chances to be taken seriously.

So there's what the commies think of Trump.

That's good enough for me.

"This website is full of people who bitch about city-people, crooked shysters, yankees, draft-dodgers, job-exporters, self-centered egotistical jerks, and generally low class mofos.

Somebody shows up who meets all of these criteria, runs for president, and has half the people on here in a swoon."

You know, Sycamore, you're sort of right.

I agree with about 90% of what Trump has proposed, no candidate is going to be 100% in agreement with my concerns. We can work out the small stuff later if someone will actually lead this country out of the hole the azzhole lefties have dug.... and they will continue to dig deeper if left in power.

I remember people not wanting to vote for Newt Gingrich because of his divorces (I guess him being an ass hat wasn't good enough).

People didn't want to vote for Romney because of Romneycare

So you have to ask yourself what is the appeal of Trump for the people to look past his inconsistency, his personal life, his bankruptcies?

I think people like Rob Jordan can't see the forest for all the trees - they're focusing on one or two aspects of Trump as if he's another politician in the mix

Whether Trump is elected or not isn't going to be based on a particular stance he holds (although admittedly if he wasn't so anti-immigration I'd be luke warm about him) but how he connects to the apathetic voter who sees a Carly Fiorina, Cruz, or Carson as just another stump speech waiting for their shot to get ahead even if they don't fit the mold of a career politician.

There is a certain appeal to a man wanting to be president who doesn't need to be president, who didn't spend the last 20 years of his life selling his soul to be president and who is ready to point out the emperor has no clothes , hell, he enjoys doing it.

I know I'm not going to agree with Trump on issues but I know that whatever decision he makes, its not because he's going to be a puppet of someone who holds his purse strings.

He may end up going off the rails and losing my support - thats part of the wildcard factor he has but my point is right now, Trump is larger than issues on a stump speech.

A combination of politicians who just blatantly lie, take the voting base for granted, and who want big government have created an environment where Trump isn't a novelty, he's the alternative to the status quo.

And its obvious people are fed up with the status quo.

"Trumpism" has more to do with attitude than ideology.

Trump has at most, 20 years to live. He has enough money that if he never made another dime, he could burn a million dollars a day in a bonfire for the rest of his life and probably not run out of money.

Anyone saying that Trump is doing this for personal gain or in some sort of pact with the Clintons, is just not thinking clearly at all.

Trump is doing this because he thinks he can do a better job. I don't know if he can or can't. But the idea of a successful citizen who is undertaking this quest, not because he hopes to gain financially, but because he actually thinks he can do better, is refreshing.

Sure, ego plays a huge part in it. It does with all politicians. But Trump's come into play largely because he is arrogant enough to think that he is smarter and better than all these other chumps.

JoeBob,

I think that's a part of it. I think he does believe he can do a good job as POTUS, and put America back on track.

However, I also think Trump is interested in the job of President because it wins cocktail parties vs. Gates, Buffet, Ellison et al. The other billionaires might be smarter, richer, etc... but have any of them been President, meaning they're beloved by all the people (which he'll convince himself is the case)? Heck no, so they can all STFU.

Nothing could vindicate his braggadocio easier than winning the general election. It would confirm that all the stuff he thinks of himself is true, and if he doesn't win, well we're all too stupid to realize his singular awesomeness. Either way, his ego wins.

This is a well thought out business maneuver that he really cannot lose IMHO.

Yet She is not for sending them back. If they are still here, they are a problem. miles

I also ask these questions, as Trump is also a hard-core Neocon.
So am I, but the double standard is unbelievable.
Trump wants to arm the Kurds and turn them loose on ISIS.
When Fiorina says the same thing...she is called a dumb stupid broad.

Almost every person living in a first world country and every American 65 or older has single payer health care. Most like it fine. It also happens to be far more efficient than private health insurance.

I'm over 65 and my private health insurance is in far better shape than any government program. So is my retirement.

I stay as far away from SS as they will allow me.

all the other chumps are just as arrogant

You might be right, Trump may be the American Berlusconi.