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Boston? Hah.. Opinions are like azzholes - everybody's got one..

Besides, the GOP can easily snatch defeat from the jaws of victory all by themselves - they don't need Trump for that..

Buncha bozos..
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“There is a lot of bluster and anger on Trump’s part, but a lot of his solutions are big government solutions,” Paul said. “I think eventually people are going to come to their senses and say ‘oh my God, I liked his angry vitriol, but I didn’t realize he was for gun control, Obamacare, increasing taxes, and taking private property.’ ”



I don't believe he is for gun control; but who knows.
I like Paul, but he's trying to prop up his run against Trump. I don't disagree with Paul at all, I don't trust Trump worth a damn, but Paul is desperation personified right now.

And yes, I STILL have the Paul sticker on my pickup from his Senate run, and a spare for next year.

I'd rather have Cruz/Walker or vice-versa, than Trump any day.
Originally Posted by Redneck
Boston? Hah.. Opinions are like azzholes - everybody's got one..

Besides, the GOP can easily snatch defeat from the jaws of victory all by themselves - they don't need Trump for that..

Buncha bozos..


Say's the feller from a State Left of Massachusetts.....
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Rand Paul says Trump setting up Republicans for their worst defeat since Goldwater


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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
I like Paul, but he's trying to prop up his run against Trump. I don't disagree with Paul at all, I don't trust Trump worth a damn, but Paul is desperation personified right now.

And yes, I STILL have the Paul sticker on my pickup from his Senate run, and a spare for next year.

I'd rather have Cruz/Walker or vice-versa, than Trump any day.


Rand Paul is the right choice. Shame some still believe the old core of Republicans are gonna lead them to the promised land.
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gun control, Obamacare, increasing taxes, and taking private property



Anyone have any facts?
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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gun control, Obamacare, increasing taxes, and taking private property



Anyone have any facts?



Donald Trump's eminent domain love nearly cost a widow her house by David Boaz:
For more than 30 years Vera Coking lived in a three-story house just off the Boardwalk in Atlantic City. Donald Trump built his 22-story Trump Plaza next door. In the mid-1990s Trump wanted to build a limousine parking lot for the hotel, so he bought several nearby properties. But three owners, including the by then elderly and widowed Ms Coking, refused to sell.

As his daughter Ivanka said in introducing him at his campaign announcement, Donald Trump doesn’t take no for an answer.
Trump turned to a government agency — the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority (CRDA) — to take Coking’s property. CRDA offeredher $250,000 for the property — one-fourth of what another hotel builder had offered her a decade earlier. When she turned that down, the agency went into court to claim her property under eminent domain so that Trump could pave it and put up a parking lot.

Peter Banin and his brother owned another building on the block. A few months after they paid $500,000 to purchase the building for a pawn shop, CRDA offered them $174,000 and told them to leave the property. A Russian immigrant, Banin said: “I knew they could do this in Russia, but not here. I would understand if they needed it for an airport runway, but for a casino?”

Ms Coking and her neighbors spent several years in court, but eventually with the assistance of the Institute for Justice they won on July 20, 1998. A state judge rejected the agency’s demand on the narrow grounds that there was no guarantee that Trump would use the land for the specified purpose. “TRUMPED!” blared the front page of the tabloid New York Post...
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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gun control, Obamacare, increasing taxes, and taking private property

Anyone have any facts?

In 2000 he was for 3 day waiting periods on gun purchases and assault weapon bans.
Now he says he's always been against any form of gun control...

Take your pick. Lots of people have evolved over 15 years on their gun stance. Do you trust him?
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Donald_Trump_Gun_Control.htm
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Ms Coking and her neighbors spent several years in court, but eventually with the assistance of the Institute for Justice they won on July 20, 1998.



I love a happy ending. smile
This Country has been led down the road to ruin by Politicians who change opinions like socks, no more.

We need Leaders who understand that Government has grown so large it threatens all of us.
I've lost a lot of respect for Rand. He seems to think that he is smart enough to game the system that defeated and disenfranchised his dad. He wants to run as an outsider but then cozy's right up to the establishment by trying to act as their attack-dog against Trump. He did a great thing when he filibustered against snooping. He should do more of that and build his base rather than attacking.
Trump is the only GOP candidate who will get out the vote.

Trump will fill his administration with the best people for the job.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is the only GOP candidate who will get out the vote.

Trump will fill his administration with the best people for the job.





But what about your preacher? grin


Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I've lost a lot of respect for Rand. He seems to think that he is smart enough to game the system that defeated and disenfranchised his dad. He wants to run as an outsider but then cozy's right up to the establishment by trying to act as their attack-dog against Trump. He did a great thing when he filibustered against snooping. He should do more of that and build his base rather than attacking.


He has no choice, that system that porked his Dad is porking him.

Why do you think Republicans and Democrats work so hard at making sure they are the only game in Town?



Been my premise for along time now. A candidate who refers to female newscasters as "Bimbos" and whose policies are a mish-mash of far left populist tripe has no chance in the general. Republican voters better wake up or we'll miss the best opportunity in a long-time to win back the White House---and to control the Supreme Court for the next 20 years.


Jordan
Originally Posted by Harry M

He has no choice, that system that porked his Dad is porking him.



Rand took himself out of contention before the system had a chance to.

The campaign staff Rand hired are a gaggle of idiots.

Rand started taking bad advice as soon as it became apparent that he was headed to Congress and it's gone from bad to worse.

Basically, Rand scuttled his Presidential campaign *and* destroyed the liberty movement the day he went on FOX and endorsed Romney.

Somebody much smarter than Rand advised him to do so and Rand didn't have the brains to understand why they chose for him to do that.
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Basically, Rand scuttled his Presidential campaign *and* destroyed the liberty movement the day he went on FOX and endorsed Romney.


Yep, I remember that day well. Still can't hardly believe it.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/why-rand-paul-endorsed-mitt-romney-2012-6
Originally Posted by Harry M
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I've lost a lot of respect for Rand. He seems to think that he is smart enough to game the system that defeated and disenfranchised his dad. He wants to run as an outsider but then cozy's right up to the establishment by trying to act as their attack-dog against Trump. He did a great thing when he filibustered against snooping. He should do more of that and build his base rather than attacking.


He has no choice, that system that porked his Dad is porking him.

Why do you think Republicans and Democrats work so hard at making sure they are the only game in Town?
Sure he has a choice. His dad wouldn't have attacked Trump. If Trump is bogus he will either be exposed as such or fool us all. Rand will make no difference to that one way or the other. You can't be the anti-establishment choice by working with the establishment. That "an enemy of my enemy" bs is just that. Rand successfully destroyed the credibility he had gained by going up against the likes of Boner and McConnell by then getting right in with all the establishment hacks and attacking Trump. [bleep], at this point maybe Rand will decide to be Jeb or Fatfuck's running mate if they ask him.
Read this: It's very informative. Pay particular attention to the role played by Trygve Olson.

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/02/02/can-ron-paul-be-tamed/
I believe Paul believed that Trumps 5 minutes of fame would have ended awhile ago. He said nothing in the beginning.
Originally Posted by Harry M
I believe Paul believed that Trumps 5 minutes of fame would have ended awhile ago. He said nothing in the beginning.
I wonder how much of the Koch's money Rand has taken. Honest wonderment, as I don't know. I know Cruz was bowing and scraping at the American's for Prosperity. I haven't heard how much of Rand's life they've bought.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is the only GOP candidate who will get out the vote.

Trump will fill his administration with the best people for the job.


This.
Rand Paul was at 2% in the last poll.

He needs to come up with something better then that if he's going to boost his numbers.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Rand Paul was at 2% in the last poll.

He needs to come up with something better then that if he's going to boost his numbers.


Well, in all honesty I believe his statements are an indication he knows he's done.
if not trump then who?

we're scraping the bottom of the barrel as it is.

if the republicans don't win this time around, they may as well fold their tent and steal away in the night.

I got excited by Trump's presentation and thought he had the nomination.

Now I am stepping back.

I never heard of Rand Paul til now.

We are watching.

Paul has only 3% in this poll!

Republican nomination

Originally Posted by Savage_99


I never heard of Rand Paul til now.







Hearing is noticeably poorer when your head is up your behind.
Originally Posted by Gus
we're scraping the bottom of the barrel as it is.




We are?




Travis
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Gus
we're scraping the bottom of the barrel as it is.




We are?




Travis


why yes, I'd say we are.

the last two elections with two different repub candidates and one demo candidate kinda showed us the door, did he not?

as bad as he has been policy wise, somebody elected him, not our candidate in either case.

but, I digress from the current Trump vs. the field condition in which we find ourselves.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
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Basically, Rand scuttled his Presidential campaign *and* destroyed the liberty movement the day he went on FOX and endorsed Romney.


Yep, I remember that day well. Still can't hardly believe it.
Yep, it was a dark day in politics.
If Rand Paul didn't apologize so much he might have more than a couple dozen votes by now.

Nobody wants to vote for a guy that panders to liberals. Pandering just doesn't work.
Originally Posted by RobJordan



Been my premise for along time now. A candidate who refers to female newscasters as "Bimbos" and whose policies are a mish-mash of far left populist tripe has no chance in the general. Republican voters better wake up or we'll miss the best opportunity in a long-time to win back the White House---and to control the Supreme Court for the next 20 years.


Jordan

Do you try to scuttle every conservative candidate who has a chance?

Did you do this to Sharron Angle and Matt Bevin too?

Because of people like you, we end up with fcktards like Reid and McConnell.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is the only GOP candidate who will get out the vote.

Trump will fill his administration with the best people for the job.


Like this?

POTUS: Donald Trump
VP: Ted Cruz
Sec. State: Condoleeza Rice
AG: Trey Gowdy
Defense Sec: Lt. Col. Allen West

He needs to find a spot for Carson too, he's to damn smart to let walk.

Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is the only GOP candidate who will get out the vote.

Trump will fill his administration with the best people for the job.


Like this?

POTUS: Donald Trump
VP: Ted Cruz
Sec. State: Condoleeza Rice
AG: Trey Gowdy
Defense Sec: Lt. Col. Allen West

He needs to find a spot for Carson too, he's to damn smart to let walk.



His Secretary of State will be John Bolton.
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is the only GOP candidate who will get out the vote.

Trump will fill his administration with the best people for the job.


Like this?

POTUS: Donald Trump
VP: Ted Cruz
Sec. State: Condoleeza Rice
AG: Trey Gowdy
Defense Sec: Lt. Col. Allen West

He needs to find a spot for Carson too, he's to damn smart to let walk.

Treasury Secretary: Rand Paul
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Sec. State: Condoleeza Rice



Really? grin


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His Secretary of State will be John Bolton.


God help us if that twisted, war mongering psychopath becomes Sec State. His allegiance is to Israel, not the US.
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His allegiance is to Israel



pretty sure he told the UN to shove the small arms treaty. But you smoke pot right?
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Ms Coking and her neighbors spent several years in court, but eventually with the assistance of the Institute for Justice they won on July 20, 1998.



I love a happy ending. smile
You're one of the few on here that appear to. Most of the rest will do anything they can to destroy this country, including supporting the newest piped piper, Mr Frump.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by RobJordan



Been my premise for along time now. A candidate who refers to female newscasters as "Bimbos" and whose policies are a mish-mash of far left populist tripe has no chance in the general. Republican voters better wake up or we'll miss the best opportunity in a long-time to win back the White House---and to control the Supreme Court for the next 20 years.


Jordan


Do you try to scuttle every conservative candidate who has a chance?

Did you do this to Sharron Angle and Matt Bevin too?

Because of people like you, we end up with fcktards like Reid and McConnell.


Angle was the Legislature's village idiot, and Trump is no conservative.


Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
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His Secretary of State will be John Bolton.


God help us if that twisted, war mongering psychopath becomes Sec State. His allegiance is to Israel, not the US.
I had in mind to say the same thing, but glad I waited for you to say it.
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Trump is no conservative.


Not particularly, no, but he is antiestablishment, and he's right on the border question, and he's anti-PC, and Organized Jewry, despite his fawning words for Israel, seems to dislike him (likely due to the fact that their usual method for controlling Western governments is to threaten to cut off the money flowing into the elected leaders' pockets, and that won't work with Trump, since he doesn't need it), so that's a plus.
I didn't read any of this (yet), but I can assure all of you that "setting" people up is what he does. He's been lucky with it overall. Trump is a pirate...lot's a people dig that stuff.
I've had my fill of all the "country club" politicians, because all of them are just talking heads that will do the same crap they've always done. Yet people still feel comfortable picking from the Country club team. As the saying goes, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome." Anyone thinking electing another country club member will result in a positive change in this nation, has not been paying attention.

This nation is hungry for a change and has been for at least a decade. People looking for change was a major reason Obama won the elections, but he brought back into focus, voting just for the sake of change can be a huge mistake. Obama promised change and delivered a change no one wanted and still doesn't. His ideals of change were to go full Socialist and call it good. The man had no skills, nor experience in running anything other than community planning events and his two terms have demonstrated his incompetence loud and clear.

Trump represents a different direction of change and has already instituted some changes many are not even noticing. Political Correctness is now being looked at for exactly what it is, and the man is not even elected.

The illegal immigrant problem is now front and center, no longer a political suicide issue and some folks are being eyeballed for not doing something already, and the man is not even elected.

The liberal media that has run rough shod over the right for two terms now, has been called out and exposed for what they are, and the man is not even elected.

Hecklers are not allowed to over talk Trump and bandstand at his expense, and the man is not even elected.

Does this mean he won't do something stupid in the future?? Absolutely not, but right now he's batting 1000, while the career politicians are running around in a growing panic. They're desperately trying to figure out how to stop the damage to their plans being done by this man and figure out how to campaign against him. He's already been hit from multiple sides and instead of going down like they planned, his popularity is growing every time he's attacked by the career politicians or those supporting them. Most of the country club members are standing around stunned that nothing they've tried, seems to work.

The man IS causing change and he's not even elected! That fact should not be dismissed, whether you like Trump or hate him.
FOst...


I trust Trump just as much as I trust his buddy The Slickster. They're too much alike.

I still believe Trump is all set up to torpedo ANY GOP candidate, or to throw the election to Bill's criminal wife, should he get the nomination.

Give me ONE good valid reason why Trump should be trusted. I don't want his stump quotes; I want to see evidence of it.
Rand Paul can KMA...

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Well, if it makes you feel any better there's a bunch of nice, milquetoast RINOs you can vote for.

Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
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His Secretary of State will be John Bolton.


God help us if that twisted, war mongering psychopath becomes Sec State. His allegiance is to Israel, not the US.



Trump is Captain Neocon.Works for me...
In June Trump told O'Reilly: “I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth,” Trump told the Fox News Channel star. “Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left.”

He continued: “I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin.”
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Trump is no conservative.


Not particularly, no, but he is antiestablishment, and he's right on the border question, and he's anti-PC, and Organized Jewry, despite his fawning words for Israel, seems to dislike him (likely due to the fact that their usual method for controlling Western governments is to threaten to cut off the money flowing into the elected leaders' pockets, and that won't work with Trump, since he doesn't need it), so that's a plus.



Speaking to JNS.org, Trump said: “The only [candidate] that's going to give real support to Israel is me. The rest of them are all talk, no actions. They're politicians."

"I've been loyal to Israel from the day I was born," said the budding politician. "My father, Fred Trump was loyal to Israel before me. The only one that's going to give Israel the kind of support it needs is Donald Trump."
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Speaking to JNS.org, Trump said: “The only [candidate] that's going to give real support to Israel is me. The rest of them are all talk, no actions. They're politicians."

"I've been loyal to Israel from the day I was born," said the budding politician. "My father, Fred Trump was loyal to Israel before me. The only one that's going to give Israel the kind of support it needs is Donald Trump."
I know, and yet they still don't like him much. Likely because he's too wealthy to hook on their money flow, thus they can't keep him on the kind of short chain they're used to having our political leaders on.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Rand Paul can KMA...

[Linked Image]


Well, at least he closed his eyes... probably holding his breath too.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Trump is Captain Neocon.Works for me...
In June Trump told O'Reilly: “I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth,” Trump told the Fox News Channel star. “Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left.”

He continued: “I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin.”


Not Neocon at all. The Neocons left them have their oil and left the Chinese take it. The Neocons waged an insane war with stupid rules of engagement that got our men killed. The Neocons paid everyone for the slightest damage they suffered from the war.

The Neocons ran the war so poorly that, if we weren't printing money, it would have bankrupted us.

If you are going to wage war, do it right. Kill the enemy and loot their treasure to pay for it.
Is waterboarding ok? grin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Rand Paul can KMA...

[Linked Image]


Well, at least he closed his eyes... probably holding his breath too.

That's becaus he's enjoying it. Al is giving Rand a reach around! wink
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
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His Secretary of State will be John Bolton.


God help us if that twisted, war mongering psychopath becomes Sec State. His allegiance is to Israel, not the US.



Trump is Captain Neocon.Works for me...
In June Trump told O'Reilly: “I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth,” Trump told the Fox News Channel star. “Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left.”

He continued: “I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin.”


Sounds like a hell of a plan to deal with the middle East

The only way to end terrorist organizations is to define them

The only way to do that is to destroy rich Arabic "royalty" families and leave them no money and no heirs
good news/bad news Rand

The good news - people are talking about you

the bad news - they're saying you're no Trump
Originally Posted by Savage_99


I never heard of Rand Paul til now.





Just when you thought the cluelessness of Dumbass Don could not reach a higher plateau, he one ups his own stupidity.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Sec. State: Condoleeza Rice



Really? grin




Damn, only my picks Bear, didn't know T didn't like Miss Rice, I sure do. smile
The bastids is beat afore they start!!

GO TRUMP!!
Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Trump is Captain Neocon.Works for me...
In June Trump told O'Reilly: “I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth,” Trump told the Fox News Channel star. “Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left.”

He continued: “I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin.”


Not Neocon at all. The Neocons left them have their oil and left the Chinese take it. The Neocons waged an insane war with stupid rules of engagement that got our men killed. The Neocons paid everyone for the slightest damage they suffered from the war.

The Neocons ran the war so poorly that, if we weren't printing money, it would have bankrupted us.

If you are going to wage war, do it right. Kill the enemy and loot their treasure to pay for it.
Yes.
Spin it anyway you want, but Trump is Captain Neocon.

Nothing wrong with that except taking the oil away from those who remain and who helped defeat ISIS is shear stupidity. That would set off a Jihad like we have never seen in our lifetime.
Good. It's time to sort those b@stards out anyway.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Good. It's time to sort those b@stards out anyway.


Yes. But...The Devil in in the details. Trump wants to use Kurd boots on the ground. That is a splendid idea.
But taking their hard fought oil away and giving it to Mobil would have Jihadists recruits lined up around the block.
Rand Paul must be on medication. News Flash Rand had Trump not decided to run for President the Dems would have won in a Landslide. WTF is wrong with him?
but they'd be some broke ass jihadists
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by BarryC
Good. It's time to sort those b@stards out anyway.


Yes. But...The Devil in in the details. Trump wants to use Kurd boots on the ground. That is a splendid idea.
But taking their hard fought oil away and giving it to Mobil would have Jihadists recruits lined up around the block.
I'm not hot on giving it to Mobil but Trump is spot-on about defunding them. I've said that since all this stuff started up. They can Jihad all they want to with some donated AK's. It's a far cry from their homey Obama giving them nukes. The problem with Trump's plan is Putin ain't going to just sit by and see his fuel supply dry up. But that's okay too. I'm not a Putin fan like the rest here. As far as I'm concerned, he can get in line to kiss our asses too.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by BarryC
Good. It's time to sort those b@stards out anyway.


Yes. But...The Devil in in the details. Trump wants to use Kurd boots on the ground. That is a splendid idea.
But taking their hard fought oil away and giving it to Mobil would have Jihadists recruits lined up around the block.
I'm not hot on giving it to Mobil but Trump is spot-on about defunding them. I've said that since all this stuff started up. They can Jihad all they want to with some donated AK's. It's a far cry from their homey Obama giving them nukes. The problem with Trump's plan is Putin ain't going to just sit by and see his fuel supply dry up. But that's okay too. I'm not a Putin fan like the rest here. As far as I'm concerned, he can get in line to kiss our asses too.


Point of correction - the ISIS/ME oil ain't going to Russia. It's going to China primarily. Russia is a major oil and gas exporter, not importer. China is the exact opposite and very dependent upon the ME. Increased production from the U.S. or the ME is a negative to Russia; decreased production benefits them. Again, China is the exact opposite.
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I'm not a Putin fan like the rest here. As far as I'm concerned, he can get in line to kiss our asses too


Frontline on PBS did a show about Putin last night. Seems he's worth more than $40 billion...all fleeced from the Russian citizens. He built a private palace for himself for a cool $250 million.

Don't know how much is true.
Saudi Arabia has the 3rd largest military budget in the world

Seems like every terrorist prior to Isis gets his seed money from the Saudi's

Isis is a bit different because they are selling oil and robbing it - shutting down Isis money flow would be a start but not enough, IMO.
I voted for Goldwater and got my revenge when I voted for Reagan.
Originally Posted by KFWA
Saudi Arabia has the 3rd largest military budget in the world

Seems like every terrorist prior to Isis gets his seed money from the Saudi's

Isis is a bit different because they are selling oil and robbing it - shutting down Isis money flow would be a start but not enough, IMO.


Saudis are known for funding terrorists but not sure ISIS is in that group.
Originally Posted by FOsteology
Well, if it makes you feel any better there's a bunch of nice, milquetoast RINOs you can vote for.



That still doesn't tell me why I should trust Trump.


...and no, the milquetoast RINOs don't make me feel anything but betrayed since the last election.
So, who do you trust? I don't trust anyone anymore. I wish the libertarians could run someone who didn't sound and act like Gomer's cousin, because I'm really leaning that way.

Unless we get someone who puts the country first it's over. It's that simple.

The establishment on both sides have been selling out to special interests for years and the majority of this country have suffered as a result.

Both sides come in every four years and spout off things they think people want to hear, and then go about paying back favors they were given during their campaigns and forget all about what's good for the country.

We've sold out to the 2% of the queers in the country. We've sold out to the environmentalists, we've sold out to corporate America, and we've sold out to foreign countries.

They may think people are stupid, but I think people have had enough. If the GOP establishment picks the candidate, Pubs simply stay home.
My general outlook on the world is libertarian but there's no damn way in the world that everybody in the country is going to wake up tomorrow and want to give up whatever it is that they perceive that they get from big government.

So that's out.

My criteria for President now is,..Don't steal my 401K and don't blow up the world.

It doesn't seem like much to ask, but it's more than 90% of the candidates are offering.
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Sec. State: Condoleeza Rice



Really? grin




Damn, only my picks Bear, didn't know T didn't like Miss Rice, I sure do. smile


Huh:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/05/rice-congratulates-obama_n_141414.html

http://yellowhammernews.com/politic...esident-obama-trade-promotion-authority/

If DT liked that RINO, I'd be suspect.
Very telling, I've never heard bad of her, plainly clear I need to research them more closely.
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by FOsteology
Well, if it makes you feel any better there's a bunch of nice, milquetoast RINOs you can vote for.



That still doesn't tell me why I should trust Trump.


...and no, the milquetoast RINOs don't make me feel anything but betrayed since the last election.
You shouldn't trust Trump. Who you gonna vote for if he's the R candidate? Hillary? Uncle Joe? Moochelle?
To paraphrase SE Cupp from today's oped, the GOP just killed one of the arguments made by Rand Paul and some others who have leveled the charge, "Trump isn't a real Republican". Ummm, lol... I guess he is now, since they made him sign his "I R teh Republican" pledge.

Kinda defeats that charge, while totally legitimizing his campaign as a serious candidate.

And since he kicks all their azzes at social media, expect him to turn this into "Why The Donald made the RNC his beotch by making them admit he's the alpha candidate who they know would wreck the GOP in the election based on his pure awesomeness and galactic levels of win."

Give it less than 48 hours, and Preibus is Trump's ho. laugh
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by FOsteology
Well, if it makes you feel any better there's a bunch of nice, milquetoast RINOs you can vote for.



That still doesn't tell me why I should trust Trump.


...and no, the milquetoast RINOs don't make me feel anything but betrayed since the last election.
You shouldn't trust Trump. Who you gonna vote for if he's the R candidate? Hillary? Uncle Joe? Moochelle?



The informed here know I'll vote for the nominee and NEVER for socialists. If it's Trump, he'll get my vote, but meanwhile I'll support someone who doesn't advocate 3 day waiting periods, government single-payer health insurance, pro-abortion, and a once-democrat supporter of the Clintons.

Yeah, sure...I trust the Donald. smirk

You can't give me any reason to trust Trump, so you have to resort to schoolyard taunts.
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