Yesterday our fellow citizens paid in blood and grief the price for the "right" to own high capacity, military style assault weapons. This type of firearm has zero place in the hands of civilians. I've hunted and shot all my life, chased squirrels with my CZ452, hunted quail with my Beretta A390, hunted Elk with my SHR970 (will again in '16) keep my SIG P245 for targets and the extremely unlikely personal protection scenario.

What we need is a ban on mags over 10 rounds, the AR-type rifle and its clones, a voluntary buy back on those in circulation, tightened licensing requirements, and increased mental health services.

Will this happen? Sadly I don't know. The gun lobby is patient and well funded by an industry reliant on assault rifle/concealed carry sales, and from a small segment of the populace with a lot of anger, fear, and prejudice. But I'm hopeful that as with tobacco, the weight of evidence and reason will win the day and we will take steps to limit the possibility of this tragedy happening in the future.

I will say this, I quit the NRA several years ago when it became nothing more than the fear-mongering, paranoia peddling marketing wing of the gun industry, and I will never go back.

GFY

Eric is another of those that long ago earned a permanate place on ignore.
He only surfaces during presidential election cycles.

Easy "ignore" right there!

Doing it Now.

10,9,8....

Once Eric gets his "Assault Weapons" and Hi-caps registered, and they come to confiscate them, and lead him to the pits, will anyone be there to intervene?

GFY!

I'm not much of a follower but this one is a given, bye bye!

Bullschit. No such weapon was used.



That SIG of yours is much more akin to what was used than your paid D party trolling bullschit.



No such weapon was used in that shooting.



Already proven ineffective, time and again.



Ds closed the facilities, turned the nuts out on the streets, and pump kids full of psychotropic drugs. Another failed idea.



Considering you are doing nothing but pimping lies, propoganda that is counter the actual evidence, and all your "cures" have been proven not to work, defeating your bullschit ain't that hard.



The weight of evidence debunks your bullschit. The "tobacco" bit gives you away as being on the Bloomberg payroll.



Who gives a f'k whether you are, or were, ever part of the NRA? You're a paid hack spouting bullschit for a propaganda machine paid for my a would-be dictator.

FOAD.

You want my guns? Molon labe, bitch.

And he's gone.

Laffin'....... I have too much to accomplish today to go buy another AR, but this idiot makes me want to.

I've seen the enemy.......

So how much does an Obama shill get paid these days?

NSA, or other agency?

We see you. You think you are clever, but not so much.

That, and to dance in the blood of innocents into order to push his paid-for propaganda.

You know my extreme dislike of ARs. I'll have one again soon, though.

Paid for by Bloomberg. The tobacco and "weight of evidence" bullschit tips that hand and is easily determined.

I actually DONT like ARs....but I don't like Dodge trucks either, and I haven't told anyone they shouldn't own either....

Your not the only one Eric, There is a shortage of real sportsman these days...

Another moron surfaces.

I already had to toggle his post to see it...now I see why...

Go away and take your "mom's demand action" sh$t with you!

The things someone will do to get a little puzzy...

Eric

Which one are you, Dumb or Dumber?

If you believe the crap you post it's hard to tell the difference.

Another Fudd.

Keep telling me how AR15's have no sporting use.





BTW... The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It has to do with protection. And having the ability to deal with a government that has gone against it's citizens.

Get a clue.

You can spout nonsense Eric but you never come back to defend it. Typicaly lieberal.

You DEFINE the term Puto / Pendejo.

so how much DOES Bloomberg grease you per word, or does he just send you his soiled underwear ?.

All Eric308 has to do is move to NY and he will have his wish
Eric GFY

Eric308 - GO [bleep] YOURSELF !

Why is this guy even on this site? Eric needs go hang out with the rest of the sheep. GFY Eric.

He's paid to be here.

Hey Eric, GFY.

What you all expect from a lawyer from Illinois LOL...

Good to know that. He calls himself a gun owner... what a fool. Off to find that button.

Thanks Sam

I just ordered two Lowers....I think I will build Two more...

All the low post count Democrat operatives have cranked up their machine again.
Notice they have been members for a while, never join in hunting subjects, and only chime in to post the dem talking points.
They serve only two purposes, to be a waste of skin and be a pain in the ass.
Tell us about your guns Eric, load data, what you use them for, stuff like that.
Do you even know how to load one?

Did the guy even use a AR? What a [bleep] tard......

The picture that I saw of the shooter shows him with an M-1 carbine. That may be why the Army vet could take five hits and still take down that silly twerp.

Jim

You Sir, are an idiot. Probably lying about your hunting and gun ownership and most definitely a Democrat. So, trot on along and report to your Muslim President that we are not buying it. miles

Is that you O'Reilly?

With a little practice how long do you think it would take to drop a empty 10 round magazine and slap in another loaded magazine? A couple of seconds?

When some deranged person is so intent on slaughtering as many innocent unarmed people as possible, the only thing I can see that smaller capacity magazine MIGHT accomplish is stretch it out a few seconds longer.

I seriously doubt there would be any fewer dead and/or wounded (maybe even more - aimed shots vs wild spray), with smaller capacity magazines.

Well, from what I read, the guy had students lay down, while he RELOADED. Why didn't some of the guys rush him?

Also, why didn't some of the students over 21 have CC permits and shoot back? Fewer dead, will make most others think twice without knowing who is packing.

Another thing, was this guy seeing a councilor, psychiatrist? If so and they deemed him a danger to himself or others, why wasn't this reported to the police so he could be tagged and not be able to buy guns?

Dear Eric308

He hit ignore in record time for me. Liberalism sure is a mental disease.

THIS...type of logic reminded me of THIS...for some odd reason....

I'll say this back to you -

Just another opportunistic liberal troll.

I would - except it's entertaining to read examples of true mental illness..

Maybe you should focus on the pharmaceutical industry who is behind all of these nutjobs who are on mind-altering chemicals (Xanax/Ritalin/etc.) and freak out when they quit or alter their dosage. The big pharma companies buy massive advertising on television, so that prevents the MSM from investigating their paying clients. They send nubile young lobbyists to Washington D.C. with suitcases full of cash and hand that schitt out like candy at a parade, so Congress sure isn't going to investigate why Little Johnny went nuts with a bag of guns.

To blame "guns!!" and some mythical gun lobby is intellectually dishonest, especially on this forum. Maybe Democrat Underground is a better environment for your anti-gun screed.

You really should pass the word on Dodge trucks, you one deserves that harsh a lesson without being forewarned.

Eric308, perhaps you have thought like I have, that the President actually meant to imply that we have "too much freedom" in this country. Perhaps what we need are more controls on what we see and say. Perhaps we need to 'nationalize' our thinking just a bit. Certainly an argument could be made for having an official 'thought guidance' venue of a more positive nature than some of the stuff we have, an official 'national church' for example. Perhaps we do have too much freedom?

Yes, I have seen plenty of 'nuts' at a local gun range. Generally they are pup-popping away with the likes of AR clones, Mossberg 500-types, Tikka clones: (cheap Remingtons, Marlins, Savages, Rugers), and 10-22s. But while they are obnoxious, I don't believe they are a significant risk to society. I actually get a lot more uncomfortable when the windows on my car start rattling because some idiots pull up next to me hatin' on everything and everyone, or I pass by the theatre where certain films are being featured, or I walk into a 'Game Stop' or other venue which promotes the obsession with violence. Perhaps we do have too much freedom?

GFY

Move to NY state and all your dreams will come true. You can move in as I move out.

Cool story bro

Interesting. Another campfire member citing violent video games as a contributor.

ERIC, The tolerant liberal...

I don't totally agree with the video game angle


IMO it has as much to do with lack of parenting as anything


Hell I played "violent" video games as a youngster all the way up through my early twenties


They were entertaining but ive never fekt rhe urge to go on a killing spree, I was raised by good parents who instilled values allnd morals,

Were you on psychotropic medications during those times?

You also say "parents", as in "two". That is another difference between you and the shooters.

Eric, have you been reading 'How To Win Friends And Influence People' again?

Another Liberal POS Troll. Go back to where you came from and suck Obama Dick

I posted the below comments on another thread about the Oregon shooter.

ERIC, the useful idiot of the socialist party sounds like another pawn.

Sadly, the highly liberal culture of the public school educator is churning out 50 "Erics" for every one potential person who is willing to work hard for their goals, not blame others for their own failures, and not believe inanimate objects are capable of committing evil acts, by their own fruition.






"I have to wonder what type of meds he was on, and if he was seeing a counselor. You have to be having serious mental health issues to want to do something this evil.

Though a bit far fetched, I immediately noted the upcoming presidential election, and calls for stricter gun control.

Manchurian candidate?

The original novel was from the late 50s and essentially a pawn was used as an assassin by political powers (socialists/communists).

I am very far from a conspiracy theorist, but the timing of these things has often made me contemplate what some who wish to be in power are willing to do.

After working around diplomats/career politicians for years, I would put absolutely nothing past many of them.

They consider the average american nothing but a mouth breathing useful idiot (Proletariat)that they can manipulate in any way they see fit.

At the same time, they consider the political class aristocrats, and superior in every way.

I would put NOTHING past the current breed of socialists/marxists that are currently attempting to rule us."

There is no way Eric is real nor should anyone take the bait.

I read his post and laughed.

No chit. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't own anything semi-automatic and have zero interest in AR's but douche bags like eric make me want to go out and buy one just to support the industry.

Just landed a 6.8 SPC. Here's to you "Eric"!

That was my reaction as well. Definitley a plant.

I find it truly interesting people that are against me owning a military style firearm didn't have a problem with me having access to them while protecting their azz. If someone wants all of the said "assault weapons" confiscated then they should be the ones going door to door demanding them turned over. In other words you put your azz on the line for what you believe!!!

....And let the panic buying begin!!!

No, I was on the...if you do anything I disapprove of I'll put you over my knee and paddle your ass prescription plan.

Three HUGE differences between you and the shooters; no psychotropic drugs, two parents, and parents that actually took responsibility for their kid.

That's the same plan my parents used. And believe me, They NEVER got tired of filling my prescriptions!

My brother from another mother (and father)...

But, but, but……….I know gobs of people who shoot guns both carefully as well as quite randomly, some even spend lots of time fondling them…and they don't do shooting them up all over the place either.

(BTW, my previous post WAS tongue-in-cheek. ) When the president says "less guns" he might as well be saying "more Allah"…narc on your neighbor if he plays vid games more than an hour/day….rents too many Sharks-n-nigar movies. etc.

eric308,


Our current elected gov. has done everything in it's power to negate and erode the very fundamental principles of Family and social values that help deter the very things we are seeing play out in the news every day.

It takes a village my ass,....
This village mentality is what's got us where were at now.

GFY

My opinion of you has not changed since yesterday......you're still a F*cking idiot.

As for my AR, you can take it from my cold dead hands.

don't do that, buy a springfield m1a scout

It takes involved parents to raise a kid.

Whether those parents sre together or divorced is, I believe of little concern...both need to be active lull involved.

People like Eric have diluted that theory and replaced it with "community" parenting...that is not to say neighbors and the parents of and child's friends. Supervising or whatever you want to inject there, it means replacing the parent with teachers and medications. It has proven and ND failurw

Key sentence, but are they wrong? "They consider the average american nothing but a mouth breathing useful idiot (Proletariat)that they can manipulate in any way they see fit."

GFY

It was a 10-22

+1 on that

I just did EXACTLY THAT!!!!!!!!!!! Now if only the toggle to read was removed as well. Ignore IS ignore.

I LOVE it when you post. You breathe new life just being an an LEO. Thank you.

Eric is just a garden variety "useful idiot".

Stalin must have left seed.

Yep, never had a use for one but the last round of "gun control" crap really missed me off so I went and built one........I'm thinking it's time to build another one.

Another ignored one. Outbackandy

Magazine restrictions will work as well as speed limit signs.

I have been watching the news reports,(on several channels) about this shooting since the story broke.
I have not heard one word about a
high capacity assualt rifle", from any, not even the lib stations.

What kind of idiot are you Eric308??

Eric308 has been on ignore for quite awhile. I don't tolerate blithering f u c kwits very well.

If you paid $20,000,000 for a boxcar full of idiots, opened the door and Eric was the only guy in there, you would have gotten your money's worth...

Eric's not much of a gun owner. It sounds like he lives someplace where you can only hunt with slugs (read a blue state), and might have one real hunting rifle, tops.

I bet his one and only shot gun is Uncle Joe approved.

eric308: Your contentions are without merit and your thinking (rationalizations!) is/are muddled and bizzarre.
What the United States of America needs to help stop violence is an end to continuing the perpetuation of welfare spawn (one parent children, irresponsible parents who use children as a ticket to a "free ride" on the mans dime, over-medicated children, drug abusers being allowed to spit out children with no stigma or accountability and schools who refuse to discipline or educate children in their charge!).
Virtually ALL mass murderers in America are drug addled young men who come to teenage/young adulthood and start to realize they are NOT the center of the universe and do not have a clue as to how to blend in and become responsible productive members of their communities (society!)!
"Tightening licensing requirements", "magazine restrictions" and your other thoughtless specious (without merit!) blatherings will have NO effect what so ever on the problem in question (young men killing innocent people).
You are part and parcel to the medias propaganda "that the guns and the Second Amendment are the problem/enemy - that contention is false, liberal muddled thinking (like yours) and programs to accentuate welfare and anything goes parenting by anyone and over-medicated drug addled young men ARE the problems!
Sheesh!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Fixed that for ya-

The second amendment is not about hunting or outdoor sports. It and the other 9 amendments are all about limiting governmental power. Thomas Jefferson said this is the last means by which we the people can withhold consent of the governed. If you let them ban "assault" weapons it is only a matter of time before they come after the rest of the guns. Doubt this? It's already happened in places like Australia, where you can't have a semiauto or pump shotgun.

So, as said before, GFY!

You guys are going bout this all wrong. The proper response to the OP should go something like this:

ANCHORS AWAY!!!

This!

i'm willing to be that you have none of those guns mentioned and just read a story about someone hunting with those. you are a planted troll.

really

Yep. Time to build another one just to piss off Oobie and Eric.

ERIC. I ORDERED SOME PARTS FOR A NEW AR BUILD. I'M BUILDING IT JUST TO PISS YOU OFF, AND TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOUR ANTI-GUN RANT HAD JUST THE OPPOSITE OF YOUR DESIRED EFFECT.

GFY.

+1

GFY cock sucker

The original assault rifle still breaths...

My " Assault Rifle" is more modern...

looks like this....




It would be bad to underestimate the damage its capable of inside 500 yards...

Better wash up that truck, your making the rest of us in this state look bad

LOL. It would be bad to estimate how well I can hit with an iron sighted AR at 500 or even 1000... though 800 is much easier than 1000....

My assault weapon is more current than yours. LOL. But I have a few each, or did before the boating accident, of each genre of "assault weapons"

Eric308---I agree that you don't need your firearms anymore. Pm me a list and prices please.

Anyone else notice how Eric and Paddler haul ass when directly engaged, on point and with facts?

Hmm...

Yep. Cowards are prone to such behavior

Eric308,
You must be a Liberal fool. If you're not a liberal you are still a fool.

These guys are only instructed in disseminating talking points. They have no training in defending them against anyone who can think straight and knows the facts. They figure if they can change one mind at each website, they've done their duty to their masters and earned their pay.

TRH,

Bloomberg pays them by the post and counts each sycophant paid response as a "win",

Don't make me show you my other single shot.

I became a life member about that time.

So, Eric doesn't know what the Founders were doing with their militias, I guess.

you have the right to your opinion and I can respect that.


but your right to an opinion should have no bearing on my right to keep and bear arms as outlined in the Constitution.


it ain't the gun


it's the society


we've gone over and over how many of us had firearms in our trucks as school when we were kids.

how many folks here while being raised if we threw a fit in public and our folks "didn't" grab us by the hair and whup our lil azz right then and there, that folks would be whispering "what's wrong with those people, don't they discipline their children? do they want them to grow up to be hooligans?"

there wasn't all the blood and gore and special effects on TV and movies.


we didn't reward folks as princely for having kids outa wedlock, they ended up actually poor, not statistically poor and it sent a message to their neighbors that had a brain.



and during that time, very few mass shootings?????



and somehow it's the gun's fault?



and I'd think you'd know posting on a gun/hunting sight that most of us can lay as much or more lead on target with a shotgun at the ranges most of these shootings take place, as a semiauto normal capacity rifle.


or a 7 round .30-.30 or a 13 round .357 lever action.


yet if you ban semi auto hi capacity rifles you're going to stop these mass shootings?


c'mon dude, you've a right to your opinion, but for it to have merit it should be based on facts.


not emotion

Thinking I should double the asking price of my M&P15.

I believe that most of us on this site wish that they could have been there armed to stop the shooter. Even unarmed I am sure most of us would have made a quick plan and risked our lives to stop the SOB, while eric308 would have been on the floor crying and peeing himself.
These anti gun rants just make me more determined to teach more new people to shoot and help more people to acquire their CCW permits.
Maybe every one of us should train new shooters and post pics for the trolls of newbies with a big grin and an AR!

Holding their new NRA membership card. ;-{>8

Crackhead !