Texas Republican Presidential Primary
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Trump 21,
Cruz 16,
Carson 12,
Bush 10,
Fiorina 6,
Rubio 3,
Huckabee 2,
Kasich 1,
Paul 1,
Jindal 1,
Santorum 1,
Perry 1

Trump +5

Well GRAHAM can't carry South Carolina either

Trump just might actually pull this thing off. Fun to watch.

Not at 21 points...

Oh I get it, in Bowsinger(Jethro Bodine cypherin')math, being at 4% is better than 21%. got it.

WTH is wrong with you?

WTH is wrong with you?
21-16= 5 point lead.

It's fairly amazing that one person is holding in excess of 20% in a 15(?) candidate field.

it's probably because a ton of repub, demo, and independent voters are so pissed off with the proceedings for differing reasons that no-one has a best idea as to what to do next.

the strength of trump might well emanate from all across party lines. sure, he might leave folks behind in every group, but he could well pick up enough to win the number of electoral votes needed. please remember this not a race based upon the popular vote.

that's for some other countries, not the US. the US is taxing it's citizens in order to police the world.

hopefully, other countries will soon choose to step forward and help share the load that our American citizens are now having to shoulder all alone.

Cruz is cruising to the top. We've got a long way to go. It's only a matter of time.

Run Ben run, your lagging behind.

Cruz ain't cruising anywhere. This is a Texas poll and Trump still handed him his ass.

trump's strength and attraction will express itself in the Big Election if he opts to hang in there.

a combination of demo-independent-repub votes could put him over the top in many "purple" states, as well as blue and red states.

the end game is being carefully thought out, or the hillary and bush would have already dropped out.

i suspect the trump has a few good strategists on his payroll as well.

the question remains, who do we average joe tax-paying, work-a-day citizens want to lead us for the next 4 to 8 years.

Can anyone find an Arkansas poll, love to know if the Huckster is carrying Arkansas

THANKS

Trump 21
Cruz 16

Cruz is behind five points in a state that he won when he started at the bottom.

Trump needs a lot more than five.

Some people still fail to realize that the GOP is badly split. There's the mainstream Republicans who continue to go along with the RNC's agenda, and then there's the protest vote made up of those who are having no more of the RNC's bullshit.

A big part of Trump's support comes from the protest vote. That's why the RNC's media machine can't shake it loose. The protest voters know the score and don't give a damn what the media says about a candidate who is obviously in the way of the RNC's plan.

The protest vote won't turn out for any of the other candidates. Essentially, they comprise a totally different ideology than that offered by the RNC.

On the other hand, Trump is acceptable to the mainstream Republican voters. If Trump is the nominee, the mainstream voters will turn out to vote for him in the general election.

If Trump isn't the GOP nominee, the protest voters will stay home.

Hence, it's Trump or another Democrat administration.

It's just this.

Lose the protest vote, lose the election,...just like in 2008 and 2012.

Amazing! This far out and you already know the outcome.

Yep.

Too many blue voters in the country today.

The GOP can't go into an election split and expect to win.

There's only one unifying candidate in the GOP race.

As much as we all like to tell everyone what's gonna happen, the fact is none of us has a clue how this will shake out. All I can say for sure is I'll vote for whoever gets the Republican nomination. I may not like the nominee at all, but I know damned well I won't like any of the Democrats. No doubt in my mind any Democrat would be absolutely disastrous.

I've got a pretty good idea. The RNC started out playing its games again,...trying to push Jeb. Jeb is at 4% now and the RNC is trying to destroy the candidacy of the polling leader.

If the RNC succeeds,..the Democrats win.

Seems to be something wrong with your poll. Perry's at 1 and he's not even in the race any more.

Actually, just the opposite is true. All the polls show several GOP candidates ahead of Trump in the favorability polls and head-to-head match-ups.
Those are the numbers that show who voters would vote for today. No way is Trump acceptable to mainstream voters.

In the overall race itself, Trump has dropped from over 30 to 23 points. And he just screwed the pooch backing Putin and Iran.

All Trump has had is the protest vote and the other two “outsiders” have cut that lead in half.
Name one candidate that Trump could beat in a one-on-one debate. It sure as hell ain't Fiorina...or Rubio...

And he is a New York Liberal. miles

I don't expect BOWSINGER to be convinced. Everything he knows about the world comes from FOX News.

Actually, he's a combination of a Populist and a Nationalist.

Liberalism and Conservatism doesn't figure into it all that much.

Spot on.

None of my numbers came from FOX.

And you still have yet to respond as to why Trump is positioned any better than other first place poll winners such as President Perry for example. Or Rudy.

Exactly.

The numbers are Trump +7

Does it have to be said that Americas done with having ANY black man as president.

In the overall race itself, Trump has dropped from over 30 to 23 points. And he just screwed the pooch backing Putin and Iran.

lmao you couldn't even begin to understand how a Texan thinks, we're not panty sniffers over here.

What you term "backing Putin and Iran" (which is nothing of the sort) only demonstrates he isn't drinking the Zionist Kool-Aid, and you just despise that realization, don't you?

That's the second time you've said that.

Quote me exactly what Trump said that makes you claim that "he's backing Putin and Iran".

Because he's not pushing for WWIII with Russia and Iran. To him, that's backing them.

Well?

Wait a while, he busy cypherin' that new math.

Nah,..he just got called for talkin' out his ass is what.

He'll jump in with a big paragraph which explains the inner thoughts of Trump and how he has taken that and concluded that Trump is "backing Putin and Iran".

These Trump threads are friggin' hilarious! Trumpsters get so pizzed off at anyone that dares not bow down and praise the almighty Donald.

I love it!

When people lie about somebody it's proper to call them on it.

Just to be a turd, I'll throw this out there.

I have identified in another thread several reasons why The Donald is the frontrunner and is perhaps the only GOP candidate who can win the general election. Who would have thought this a year ago?

Much of that comes from his toughness, candor and willingness to state his positions rather than waffle as the others do.

In fact, the more he speaks on different issues, his stands become clearer and the more confident I am that he is on track. In no way should he be more specific than he is, no matter how much the pundits complain.

As we draw slowly closer to the nominations, I think others will step away from supporting Carson, who after all is a very fine neurologist, smart fellow and thoughtful speaker, and Fiorina, who is a very clever speaker with tremendous baggage and a suspect record -– when they realize they are not up to the job requirements. I'd rather have an SOB than the nicest guy in the world.

The others are pols, who are likely to be stuck in the beltway and party mindsets that are the basis for so many problems.

There will always be some who hate him, but people do like a winner and many will come around. He is patriotic and respectful of the Constitution. I would trust his Supreme Court choices.

Trump says he is a financial and business success and a dealmaker who knows how to assemble a great team. Based in what I know, which is second-hand, but probably more knowledgeable than most (I have worked in the same areas with folks who know him), his claims seem valid. I think that is just what we need.

I also think most folks here, and hopefully enough of those elsewhere, appreciate his positions on some of the crazy things going on in the economy and with immigration.

We will see, but at present my view is that we could do a lot worse then Trump.

Serious question: What if Cruz were to climb in the polls between now and the primary? Would any of the Trump supporters consider him?

Not trying to be confrontational. Just asking. Is it Trump or nobody?

Some people would. Some people wouldn't. Cruz has demonstrated his allegiance to the Israel lobby. Some people are alright with that. For some people, that's end game.

It's a calculated position. Some people jump all over it. Some people try to ride the middle.

It gains some votes and it costs some votes.

Actually, I'm kind of surprised that Cruz isn't doing better in the polls. I'm not sure why, but I suspect that taking the side of the Israel lobby doesn't carry the clout that it once did.

Who knows why? But it's evident that Cruz isn't getting the job done.

Speaking for myself, I can't bring myself to vote for anyone who's already pledged undying loyalty to a foreign power ... Loyalty above what he owes to Americans. He's stated as much openly. "If you're not with Israel, I'm not with you." - Ted Cruz

That's just not acceptable for an American presidential candidate. I don't care what the context was. If he's the candidate, I'll protest vote third party.

Israel is our only ally in the middle east. Supporting them and standing up for them when the others have vowed their destruction isn't the same as supporting the lobby. Would yall just leave them hanging? At the very least, we should allow them to attack their aggressors.

What if Russia, China and Iran (who have now joined forces in Syria) decide to attack Israel? You wouldn't be in favor of coming to Israel's aid?

What if a candidate put the interests of America first?

That's what Trump's doing.

I'm so tired of that tasty bit of propaganda I could puke.

You're being played...like a friggen Kosher harp.

That's what worries me. It looks like too many have taken the position that if Trump isn't the nominee, then they'll stay home on election day. Trump, or burn it down. God help us if that's the case.

Also,..Fiorina recently said that we should be arming our allies, the Sunni Muslims in the Middle East.

It wasn't that long ago that U.S. Marines were fighting the Sunni Muslims in Fallujah, Iraq.

So who in the fug is that stupid wench talking about?

Sorry you feel that way.

The U.S. government recently fought a war to overthrow the Sunni Muslims in Iraq.

Now, Fiorina is saying that America should arm the Sunni Muslims in order to overthrow Assad in Syria?

That bitch is crazy.

I think the above is a very good assessment.

She's a typical brainwashed student of the neocon bullshit ideology.

Very weary of it myself.

Cruz is one of two Senators currently serving Texas.

The Huckster has been out of Arkansas politics for what, 8 or 10 years?

Apples to organes. You cannot make that argument.

The Big Three are Ca., Tx., and NY. It's a given that Ca and NY are going Democrate in the general election.

Cruz had better win...and win BIG in the Texas Rep primary.

You better fall on your knees and pray that he doesn't.

Ain't no way in hell he can win the general election.

Hell,...he barely has any GOP support. You've *got* to realize that he has no chance at the crossover vote.

Exactly!

Did you hear how the outgoing Speaker of the House describe one of his own GOP candidates.

The RNC hates Tea Party concervatives more than the Democrates. They just won't play ball.

.....and Trump has the GOP support? I thought the GOP support was a bad thing. Not following your logic.

Of all nations to do that for, why Israel, which has spied on us, given our nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union, attempted to murder the entire crew of the USS Liberty, perpetrated terrorist bombings against us in the Lavon Affair, etc., etc.,. WWIII for them? What are you smoking tonight?

That's what the numbers say.

You could say it...but it would probably apply to just a few.

If skin color were the issue, Carter and Clinton were enough to stop me from voting for white folks.

The RNC wants Jeb. The Republican people want Trump.

Ok, you're taking about voters. I assumed you meant the GOP establishment. My mistake.

The GOP establishment wants Jeb or whoever the Democrats put up.

The GOP establishment would rather have Hillary than Trump.

That's a fact.

Absolutely it is.

I'm only making the point, that if Cruz can't win big in a State that he currently represents in Congress he has troubles.

I don't think any Rep. candidate can win with out Texas.

Scary ain't it.

We think all the dumb azz's in the country are on the demoRAT side, but plenty of proof around here that we've got our fair share.

I won't pull a lever for Fiorina

That would certainly be the toughest one of the current top tier, but you just got to realize the alternative, 4-8 MORE YEARS OF THIS!

if Fiorina is the best the GOP can give me, then I won't care

I have zero faith in her ability to govern

If it makes you feel better...I don't think you have to worry about that crisis of concious.

Can anyone post a single poll that Canadian CRUZ is leading?

He is a distant 2nd in Texas maybe Alberta.

I'm voting for him in the primaries. So he's leading in the poll with me.

Yep, all Y'all that have been bragging about how conservative that you are, are not it seems. Truth has a way of coming to the top, like cream. miles

Here's what people want.

Less emphasis on war, more emphasis on jobs, a hard line on illegal immigration.

Most of the GOP candidates are courting the more war vote, say hardly anything about more jobs, and are at minimum very mealy mouthed about illegal immigration. If fact, most are in favor of some sort of amnesty.

To sum up, there's no conservatives running. The big money doesn't want conservatism.

Bingo.

LOL! The cheering section! Every time someone praises Donald, TRH goes, "Right you are! Preach it brother!" TFF!

Donald wasn't mentioned in my post.

Trump will be submitting a detailed plan for spending cuts this week. The rest of the crowd will simply criticize it while offering nothing of their own.

Once submitted,I believe Trump will own the primaries through Super Tuesday.

My support for Trump himself is actually lukewarm. I support his candidacy only because he's bucking the establishment which is decidedly anti-conservative, and which hates him because he's decidedly more real than they are. We'll never get real conservative government until the neocon death grip that's on the Republican establishment is broken, and Trump is the best chance for doing that at this time.

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Bingo ..

That is normally their intention from the beginning. They have to be victims. It's what they do.

That's a good political move on his part, although the executive branch can't do more than approve or deny such endeavor.

They don't choose to be. But the system and the fuggin' idiots who don't recognize the system cause them to be.

That's why they ain't got no sympathy for the knotheads who can't decipher candidates like Cruz.

They won't play the idiots game.

,..too damn many people playin' it already.

are we at the stage where their votes don't matter and won't sway an election like we were in 2008 and 2012?

I've been kind've thinking of the same possibility.......

Casey

Yep........


Casey

Coming from you that's GOT to be tongue-in-cheek.......


Casey

I like your analysis, except that I am much more positive about Donald Trump because he conforms to my view of what a really good big businessman is. IMO, we could use someone with his skills and his greater honesty. Plus, his stance on issues is perfectly fine so far. I think he is taking the gun issue as far as necessary at this point.

Really great businessmen –– and there are a few –– attract intense loyalty because people trust them. I do not confuse this with persons like JFK and BHO who gather henchmen who would be no-talent nothings without their connection to the boss.(I know that JFK had McNamara, Bundy, et al., but in retrospect they had such insufferable egos that they got much of what they did wrong and later admitted it.) Really great ones like Ike, Truman and Reagan did not think only Ivy League cronies were competent.

I like(d) several of the other GOP candidates including Cruz, but I do not see any at this point who can carry it all the way. I could be wrong, but that is what I see.

Let's hope they get lucky this time and pull it out. We won't survive them taking their ball and going home again.

What I am seeing is that the Donald is a very good salesman. I also think that most of what is known in the sales world as "puffing", which means stretching the truth to make your product look better than it is. Now if I could trust the Donald to do as promised, or at least try to, I could get behind him. miles

I think that we are on the same page.

Let me add that in his business ventures, whether it is hise-rise buildings, resorts, business suits, steaks or whatever, he insists on quality and doing it right. Maybe sometimes he fails, but the goals are clear and people stand in line to get his stuff.

Clearly, he has a huge ego. They all do. In his case, I believe that he will do his absolute best to further the interests of the country, if only for that reason.

Great businessmen take pride in offering great products and services and not screwing the public. At least, the ones I value do.

He can't win outside of Texas. And now, it looks like he can't win in Texas.

He does great things for the US and for Texas but his delivery of the message stinks. He creepily looks in to the camera and preaches to us like a preacher and a politician. That's not what the people are looking for.

I love his stance and that he has the balls to stand up to the current congress and POS of the US, but he needs a different was to say it.

I hate to say it but yes. I believe B nailed it. If anyone besides Trump or Carson runs against the D's, it's more of this crap for 4-8 more years.

TFF...Herman Cain led Romney by 20 points at this time in 2007. Any of you Texas boyz get invited to that poll?

Absolutely I'd support him. I'd rather him be the front runner from the start. Politically, I agree with him on many many fronts.

Truth be known, I'm worried about these old farts voting for Bush in the primaries.

Christ I hope not.

You know who I'm talking about. They won't follow any of it until election day and they'll go with whoever's ad they saw last on the weather channel.

You are right... they are just "stuck in stupid"
Primaries are still 3 months out...
I want to see more action in the "debates"... time to weed out a few more from this clusterphuk... then we can get to some serious issues.
Anybody here besides me that has looked at and compared the "party platforms" from 2012?

Yeah riiight...Cruz can't win in Texas...

That is a very genuine concern and the movement has already started.

For Rubio...not Bush

He loves lieberals.

What is TFF is that TRH's old hero, Ron Paul has no use for Donald. Says Donald is “dangerous”

No what is TFF is that people like you still want to vote in a status quo pos and then expect a different result...all the while the country swirls down the schitter.

Time is short. Somethings gotta give.

I-have-never-supported-any-status quo pos-for-president.

Having no other real choice, I have had to vote for a couple in order to try and stop Obama.

Who I have supported is crystal clear and makes your statement...stupid.

Texas Republican Presidential Primary

Texas Lyceum

Trump 21,
Cruz 16,
Carson 12,
Bush 10,
Fiorina 6,
Rubio 3,
Huckabee 2,
Kasich 1,
Paul 1,
Jindal 1,
Santorum 1,
Perry 1

Trump +5

Well GRAHAM can't carry South Carolina either

Who loves Liberals? If you mean me, then I have to laugh again. Just because I'm not kissing Trump's a$$, doesn't mean I'm a liberal or for the status quo. But, as I've said before, I'll show up and vote for whoever the Republican nominee is.

I think he was talking about me.

In Ricky D's opinion, anybody who doesn't want to blow up the planet is a liberal.

Some funny chit on this forum!

How has Trumps poll numbers changed over the past 2 weeks?
Texas?
Iowa?
NH?

Paddler has been looking for you.

He brought his paddle.

You better hurry.

Thank you sir may I have another!

Thank you sir may I have another!!

Thang u ser may I haaave anuver!,,

You guys know where I am going with this don't ya!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-polls-gop-race

yeah,...you're going to spew some more commie chit like you always do.

You must be right! You always are

Take a look

September 11-

Donald Trump has the support of 27 percent of Iowa likely Republican Caucus participants, with 21 percent for Ben Carson and 9 percent for U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

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Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/425154/poll-shows-trump-trailing-carson-iowa-eliana-johnson



So.........




Is Trump ready to exit the race? Not yet...By Christmas is the smart money.


What does Las Vegas say??


The odds of Trump winning the GOP nomination fell 8 percentage points to 12 percent, according to the Political Prediction Market from CNN and Pivit.