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Posted By: WayneShaw Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Only in Hussein's world does this happen.

Dirt Bike Gangs Are Running Wild In DC Streets And Cops AREN’T ALLOWED To Stop Them

Posted By Josh Fatzick On 11:28 AM 12/28/2015 In

In the nation’s capital, roving motorcycle gangs are terrorizing the community with impunity because police are strictly forbidden to chase them.

The Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) has a strict “no chase” policy, which stops police from giving chase to criminals on dirt bikes. The thinking behind the policy is that chasing suspects will create a more serious risk to citizens than just letting them go, and police can catch them later.

The reality, however, is that with police officers’ hands tied, illegal dirt bikers are free to ride when and where they want with complete disregard for the law.

Sunday night, two videos surfaced on YouTube showing exactly how these marauding dirt bike gangs operate.

The first video, uploaded Sunday evening, shows a gang of more than 100 dirt bikers and all-terrain vehicle (ATV) riders flying down a popular stretch of 14th Street Northwest, running a red light and weaving through traffic — several riders nearly get struck by a turning car.

The gang traverses the intersection and then proceeds south on 14th Street, moving towards downtown.

In the second video, also uploaded Sunday night, a different gang of motorcycle and dirt bike riders all but shut down traffic just outside D.C. city limits on Interstate 495 coming in to the city on one of the busiest travel days of the year.

Revelers can be seen exiting their cars and running toward the group of motorcyclists who have blocked traffic across all five lanes so they can perform donuts and wheelies.

People hang out the windows of their cars with cell phones in hand to record the madness as it insues.

Eventually, the gang starts moving further down the highway and riders can be seen doing wheelies and standing on top of their motorcycles, still blocking traffic in all lanes.

At the end of the video, about a dozen riders who missed their exit, turn around and drive the wrong way on the freeway so they can meet back up with the rest of the gang.

It is unclear if police responded to either incident. A request for comment from the MPD was not returned.

In July, D.C. Council attempted to crack down on the illegal bike gangs with legislation that would have them put them in jail — if police can catch them.

The new plan would give police the authority to tow any dirt bike parked on public property and put the rider in jail for up to 30 days. It would also enact heavy fines for people convicted of multiple dirt bike related offenses.

The call for new penalties came on the heels of several violent incidents that involved illegal dirt bikes.

[dcquiz] In June, the wife of a D.C. police officer was the victim of a drive-by attack from teenagers illegally riding around on dirt bikes and ATVs.

The woman was standing in her front yard when she said a group of around 12 teens on dirt bikes came racing down her street. When she yelled at the scofflaws to slow down, they turned their bikes around and tried to run the woman over.

In May, a young reporter in D.C. was killed in a drive-by shooting in which the shooter zoomed by on an illegal dirt bike.

The woman, Charnice Milton, was waiting at a bus stop when the intended target of the shooting grabbed her and used her as a human shield.

After shooting Milton, the teenager took off on the dirtbike and was never identified by police. Milton, shot in the chest, later died in the hospital.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTbbgdHlBYE
Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Same in Baltimore. Been like that for years there, too.
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
The running "trend" is that motorcycles in general are a "no-go" for pursuits (a shooting would fit "exception" in my world). I can tell you how chasing one of those dirt bikes in my Vic is going to end......
Posted By: poboy Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
NOTHING CAN BE DONE
Maybe nothing can be done by the police, but private citizens surely could stop it if there was no danger of prosecution. But, of course, the police have to be the answer to everyone's problems in the New, Bold America so we'll have to sit idly by and wait to be terrorized.
Posted By: FreeMe Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Decades ago, when I was a young and immortal scofflaw - we figured out that a good and smart rider on a good and properly set-up dual purpose bike was about impossible to catch. Unless the chaser was similarly equipped, that is. The decision to break off such a chase is more about public safety than the safety of the chased. Short of outlawing bikes entirely, I don't know how they will stop it. Outlawing dirt bikes only gets you into the never ending definition game.

As usual, the key to the problem is the fact that these places (especially DC) are overrun with criminals.
Originally Posted by FreeMe


As usual, the key to the problem is the fact that these places (especially DC) are overrun with criminals.


And the reason they're over-run with criminals is many, but chief is that there are no consequences for their being a menace. And the reason we as citizens can't deal with it ourselves is that we would end up being the one's thrown in jail.

But, turn a few creative rednecks loose on 'em and see how long it takes for that crap to stop.
Posted By: FreeMe Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by FreeMe


As usual, the key to the problem is the fact that these places (especially DC) are overrun with criminals.


And the reason they're over-run with criminals is many, but chief is that there are no consequences for their being a menace. And the reason we as citizens can't deal with it ourselves is that we would end up being the one's thrown in jail.

But, turn a few creative rednecks loose on 'em and see how long it takes for that crap to stop.


Yep.
Posted By: tzone Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
A Louisville slugger out my window at 75mph may help.
Originally Posted by tzone
A Louisville slugger out my window at 75mph may help.


My 93' Sierra would make a Great Wrecking Ball!
Posted By: FreeMe Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Originally Posted by tzone
A Louisville slugger out my window at 75mph may help.


Sure. And after the rest of the gang piles on and you defend yourself with whatever means you have - guess who's going to jail.

TPTB have screwed the pooch. Fixing that will be a long haul.
Posted By: BamBam Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
They've been doing that in New York City for years. I've never seen them in the borough of Manhattan but I've seen them all the other boroughs. Remington 870 #4 shot, that would be a blast,pun intended :-)
I bet if you had a gun in plain sight, they would chase you to the end of the world...
Posted By: BamBam Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
You're probably right.
It's a shame the people have been neutered and have been told to stand down and wait for police. Gus and Woodrow didn't wait for the nearest lawman to show up, they hung ol' Jake Spoon right there on the spot. Seemed to work out just fine.

Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Originally Posted by Fireball2
It's a shame the people have been neutered and have been told to stand down and wait for police. Gus and Woodrow didn't wait for the nearest lawman to show up, they hung ol' Jake Spoon right there on the spot. Seemed to work out just fine.



A bunch of damnyankee and left coast socialists, and the ACLU, are to blame for that. Seems they had a problem with folks apprehending and passing judgment on suspects outside of the walls of a courtroom. Of course, if that's what you're advocating, well, by all means do continue... This should get interesting.
A spool of 50lb. mono filament come to mind.
I don't play your kind of games. I have a life.
Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Glad to hear it. Better than actually saddling up on a judgment posse and rendering lynch-mob Justice. That's far safer to advocate on the 'net than actually doing it.

American justice now appears to be ruled by the ghetto, and not so much from the court room. Police depts via the politicos that rule them have become largely impotent via decrees from their, so called, superiors. From this, the Enclave/Gated Community mindset of law abiders will only accelerate.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
I don't play your kind of games. I have a life.



Glad to hear that Fireball2. After musing the past thread about your wife problems I was beginning to wonder of you really did.
Our country is becoming a Mad Max movie !!!
They have the interstate at a stand still anyway. They know it's happening. Why can't police get ahead of them and block the whole road? How would they get off the road? All of them could be caught IF IT WAS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody that would live in a friggin city akin to DC, New York, Chicago, or one inhabited by multiple millions of azzholes is already 7/8 of a bubble from full plumb anyway!!
I'd sure like to have a coupla' three Million buck budget to build a prototype "Catch Vehicle"

Re-purposed Mower/Combine/Haybine front implement , feeding into a belt/screw/crusher/shredder,....and thence to a
tank / hopper.

Mounted on a 20-25 ton vehicle / chassis that handles VERY well at 180 MPH, sporting an excess of driveline and PTO horsepower and torque. Good converted Pacific Logger'll do.

Wanna' play Mad max?

....I'm your huckleberry

GTC
14th street was a toilet when i lived in DC 30 years ago. i can't imagine it has gotten better. i feel for the good people who have to live there for whatever reason. but until we can take off the PC gloves and call a spade a spade (no pun intended) it will only get worse. inner city blacks are destroying our cities on our dime and no one is allowed to say it.
Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
American justice now appears to be ruled by the ghetto, and not so much from the court room. Police depts via the politicos that rule them have become largely impotent via decrees from their, so called, superiors. From this, the Enclave/Gated Community mindset of law abiders will only accelerate.


Though I can't know for sure, that sounds rather much like South Africa, and in many ways like pre-Castro Cuba. Neither of those have turned out well...
Posted By: CCCC Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Compared to where almost all of us live, much of DC is a filthy hole - they have it the way they want it. This latest fiasco is a mess, but far from insolvable. There is no will to stop it. "What difference could it possibly make?"
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
I'd sure like to have a coupla' three Million buck budget to build a prototype "Catch Vehicle"

Re-purposed Mower/Combine/Haybine front implement , feeding into a belt/screw/crusher/shredder,....and thence to a
tank / hopper.

Mounted on a 20-25 ton vehicle / chassis that handles VERY well at 180 MPH, sporting an excess of driveline and PTO horsepower and torque. Good converted Pacific Logger'll do.

Wanna' play Mad max?

....I'm your huckleberry

GTC


Careful, 4ager will call you out! LOL. 4ager to the rescue.
Trump read my post,...just E-mailed me,....he likes it, as long as he gets to drive it now and than.

Suggested a retired RR snowblower.

I can handle that.

GTC
Washington DC





Baltimore

Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
I'd sure like to have a coupla' three Million buck budget to build a prototype "Catch Vehicle"

Re-purposed Mower/Combine/Haybine front implement , feeding into a belt/screw/crusher/shredder,....and thence to a
tank / hopper.

Mounted on a 20-25 ton vehicle / chassis that handles VERY well at 180 MPH, sporting an excess of driveline and PTO horsepower and torque. Good converted Pacific Logger'll do.

Wanna' play Mad max?

....I'm your huckleberry

GTC


Careful, 4ager will call you out! LOL. 4ager to the rescue.


Hell, I'll just call Greg. SOB is a mechanical genius.

Of course, you're still twisted up about ... something. What, only you know.
Will frangible slugs feed reliably through a belt fed arm ?

Safety first.....

GTC
Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Will frangible slugs feed reliably through a belt fed arm ?

Safety first.....

GTC


Yes, they will, depending upon the arm.

Sounds like a great excuse for some beta testing.

wink
Quote
Of course, you're still twisted up about ... something. What, only you know.


certainly one head I wouldn't want to be inside of.....must be pretty damned NOISY in there.

Honda and Suzuki just contacted me,....said they'll buy all the scrap residues, if we disinfect and sanitize them first.

Recycling is good for the planet, ya' know.

GTC
Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
LMFAO!

Amigo, you may be on to something here...
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Will frangible slugs feed reliably through a belt fed arm ?

Safety first.....

GTC


Yes, they will, depending upon the arm.

Sounds like a great excuse for some beta testing.

wink


Lotsa' room on those big old loggers,...more than adequate room for a turret or five.

I'm playing around with the idea of something like a bale wrapper,...that will spool out huge "sausages" of organic and metalic debris, and leave them neatly laid out behind the "harvester".

Those can be policed up and taken directly to the bio - diesel rendering plants.

GTC

Originally Posted by 4ager


Hell, I'll just call Greg. SOB is a mechanical genius.

Of course, you're still twisted up about ... something. What, only you know.


Way to stroke the crowd Sean.

You're so hyper sensitive about criticism you make it too easy.
Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by 4ager


Hell, I'll just call Greg. SOB is a mechanical genius.

Of course, you're still twisted up about ... something. What, only you know.


Way to stroke the crowd Sean.

You're so hyper sensitive about criticism you make it too easy.


You only have to convince you. Carry on.
Posted By: 4ager Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Will frangible slugs feed reliably through a belt fed arm ?

Safety first.....

GTC


Yes, they will, depending upon the arm.

Sounds like a great excuse for some beta testing.

wink


Lotsa' room on those big old loggers,...more than adequate room for a turret or five.

I'm playing around with the idea of something like a bale wrapper,...that will spool out huge "sausages" of organic and metalic debris, and leave them neatly laid out behind the "harvester".

Those can be policed up and taken directly to the bio - diesel rendering plants.

GTC



Afeared that McDonalds and BurgerKing would be the primary customers. Ponder "mad cow" and such as a result of feeding similar to bovines, and the consequences of the human populations...
BBQ'd Leroy, eh ?

....I'll pass.

GTC
Originally Posted by 4ager


You only have to convince you. Carry on.


And you only need the approval of the crowd.
Originally Posted by WayneShaw
The thinking behind the policy is that chasing suspects will create a more serious risk to citizens than just letting them go, and police can catch them later.

Without a video clearly showing a face (good luck with a full-face helmet) or an eyewitness to say who was operating the bike, that's not going to happen.
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Someone musta stolded my bike......and parked it back in the yard after!
Posted By: Huntz Re: Rogue Dirt Bike Gangs in DC - 12/29/15
Shut down the freeway entrances and exits.The ones around most cities are fenced in.Have at them with shotgun beanbag loads.Call it Sporting Azzhats.
Originally Posted by Huntz
Shut down the freeway entrances and exits.The ones around most cities are fenced in.Have at them with shotgun beanbag loads.Call it Sporting Azzhats.

I recall rocksalt loads discouraged many unwanted pests, in the day.
Originally Posted by NH K9
Someone musta stolded my bike......and parked it back in the yard after!

I loaned it to a friend of mine. Name is Raven. No, man, I don't know his last name, he's just like, Raven. He hangs out. No, man, I don't know where he lives or nothing. I don't know his cell. I guess he's got one, but I ain't never called him, you know what I'm saying? He just, like, hangs out and schidt.
If the voters in DC are so stupid that they will elect city officials who let this stuff go on, they deserve the protection they get.
I will say some of those guys got serious skills. Looks like they learn 'em on bicycles as kids, but damn, the casualty rate's gotta be high.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by FreeMe


As usual, the key to the problem is the fact that these places (especially DC) are overrun with criminals.


And the reason they're over-run with criminals is many, but chief is that there are no consequences for their being a menace. And the reason we as citizens can't deal with it ourselves is that we would end up being the one's thrown in jail.

But, turn a few creative rednecks loose on 'em and see how long it takes for that crap to stop.


I agree!

Now, let's see how long it takes for the doctor to disagree and call us stupid, ignorant, etc.
Looks like sport bikes to me
Originally Posted by TERRY8mm
A spool of 50lb. mono filament come to mind.


PowerPro, no stretch........
Oh, you vigilantes! Perish the thought!!! Just call the police they will take care of us! Right to the end when they load us in the traincars.
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