Ted Nugent Charged With Antisemitism By ADL - 02/10/16
Not too many are going to argue whether the content of what he posted is wrong, just that they're butthurt about it.
Enter the Feelings Police.
Enter the Feelings Police.
You're going to make certain members of this board very, very angry.
Originally Posted by Slavek
You're going to make certain members of this board very, very angry.
Love the Nuge, but his mouth is his greatest asset, as well as his biggest enemy. Not the first time he's stcik his foot in it. He'll have a tough time with this people:
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"I'm a pro gun Jew and you can go [bleep] yourself for your anti semite post," wrote Dmitry Goosavich. "You knew what that picture was trying to comunicate. People like you don't help the 2nd Amendment. You just anger the other side and give them ammo to push there agenda."
"There are Jews who support gun control but many of us are gun owners ourselves and members of the NRA," Ariel Kotler said. "Quite a number of us are actually members of the [Gun Owners of America] instead because we feel that the NRA has gone along with too much gun control."
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Fact is, he is right. 85%+ of jews vote democrat and I am willing to bet an almost equal majority of jews in this country (note I didn't say "American Jews" are for gun control, extreme gun control.
If he is so wrong, why is it that all the biggest control advocates are of the Jewish persuasion? I am not anti-Jew by any means but the fact remains look at who is on the forefront on disarming WE THE PEOPLE. At least Ted has the guts to speak out an tell it like it is. I'm sure I've pissed off a few. Guess what, the truth hurts and I don't care.
I know, it's not politically correct. Well political correctness is an oxymoron promulgated by morons. It's also what's hurting this country. After all, we must not hurt someone's feeling or harm their self esteem. Bovine excrement!
Paul B.
I know, it's not politically correct. Well political correctness is an oxymoron promulgated by morons. It's also what's hurting this country. After all, we must not hurt someone's feeling or harm their self esteem. Bovine excrement!
Paul B.
Jews being butt hurt for someone telling the truth about them, what's new.
Oy, the sufferink!
Oy, the sufferink!
Not only do I not read that worthless, leftist propaganda rag, I look at those who do with contempt. Nothing they print can be believed.
The ADL is just another leftist organization with no more credibility than Black Lives Matter has.
Uncle Ted speaks the truth. Does anyone here not think that trash like Schumer, Finestein, Boxer, Bloomberg, et al are not our blood enemies? Hell there's even one running for president.
The ADL is just another leftist organization with no more credibility than Black Lives Matter has.
Uncle Ted speaks the truth. Does anyone here not think that trash like Schumer, Finestein, Boxer, Bloomberg, et al are not our blood enemies? Hell there's even one running for president.
Years ago I had a list of members from Handgun Control Inc. It read like a Jewish phone book.
Go Ted!!!!
I saw this a few days ago and went searching for some answers. Specifically, why are Jews overwhelmingly against gun ownership. I found my answers at an unlikely place - "Jews for Firearms Preservation" web site.
It’s no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called “gun control” is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanity’s villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.
In reaction to the Holocaust, American Jews adopted the phrase “Never Again!” If actions mean anything, they don’t believe it. That’s for someone else to do. How do Jews expect to put teeth behind the words “Never Again!” if not with the ability to apply and project personal force when righteous -- and necessary -- for survival?
Why then do so many American Jews hate guns and fear gun ownership so much?
Our research identifies ten reasons why these Jews feel the way they do about self defense in general, firearms specifically and your own right to keep and bear arms.
The adamantly anti-gun-rights Jews are bowing to:
1. A desire for utopian moral purity
2. A disproportional incidence of hoplophobia
3. A quest for power through victimization of peers
4. A utopian delusion that if guns would just “go away,”
crime would end and the world would be a peaceful safe place
5. Self hatred and a wish to be helpless, acting out guilt-based
behavioral problems that develop in childhood
6. The Ostrich Syndrome
7. Garden-variety hypocrisy
8. Adulterated religion -- Jews In Name Only (JINOs)
9. Feel-good sophistry
10. Abject fear that yields irrational behavior
Despite the modern American Jewish aversion to arms, it has not always been so, and Israeli Jews certainly understand the value of arms. Throughout history, there were Jews who fought in defense of their people and way of life. The Torah is filled with Jews who took up arms in righteous and valiant defensive action. See, for example, The Ten Commandments of Self Defense, (Bendory and JPFO, 2009); or recall, “When Abraham heard that his nephew Lot was taken captive, he took the 318 trained soldiers of his house and pursued the captors,” defeated them, brought back Lot, and exacted retribution with their looted property. (Genesis 14:14)
Contemporary Jews may have largely acquiesced to their WWII inquisitors, but Biblical Jews resisted their Egyptian slave masters and then fought countless fierce battles against invaders and anti-Semites, such as Amelek, the Philistines and Haman.
Jews have been assaulted, accosted, and oppressed by nearly every nation and empire in history, including the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Ottomans and of course modern nations like Germany and the USSR.
Miraculously, Jews have outlasted all those who would annihilate them, typically by using force of arms. Perhaps their liberal modern approach to assault and suffering -- “Don’t fight back, it will only make matters worse” -- holds lessons for us. Or perhaps not: it is very hard to witness open-pit graves piled high with emaciated corpses without emotional revulsion. How much worse could matters get?
“Culturally proper” Jews will not want to openly face the tortured reasoning of their Faustian bargain behind “don’t make it worse.” That doesn’t make the following reasons any less real or mortally dangerous. And Jews are not alone in relying on these justifications for rejecting the fundamental human right of self defense. Many other gunless people will also recognize their feelings accurately described by what we have found.
We would not dream of interfering with a free person’s freedom to choose and embrace defenselessness or to go gunless. On the other hand, there can be no tolerance for anyone who attempts to force others to behave so dangerously.
For the Complete Article - Click Here
Ted's right, Jews are against gun ownership - he just went about publishing the fact the wrong way. On the plus side, it's time for a discussion on why Jews are against gun ownership and what can be done to change their views.
It’s no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called “gun control” is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanity’s villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.
In reaction to the Holocaust, American Jews adopted the phrase “Never Again!” If actions mean anything, they don’t believe it. That’s for someone else to do. How do Jews expect to put teeth behind the words “Never Again!” if not with the ability to apply and project personal force when righteous -- and necessary -- for survival?
Why then do so many American Jews hate guns and fear gun ownership so much?
Our research identifies ten reasons why these Jews feel the way they do about self defense in general, firearms specifically and your own right to keep and bear arms.
The adamantly anti-gun-rights Jews are bowing to:
1. A desire for utopian moral purity
2. A disproportional incidence of hoplophobia
3. A quest for power through victimization of peers
4. A utopian delusion that if guns would just “go away,”
crime would end and the world would be a peaceful safe place
5. Self hatred and a wish to be helpless, acting out guilt-based
behavioral problems that develop in childhood
6. The Ostrich Syndrome
7. Garden-variety hypocrisy
8. Adulterated religion -- Jews In Name Only (JINOs)
9. Feel-good sophistry
10. Abject fear that yields irrational behavior
Despite the modern American Jewish aversion to arms, it has not always been so, and Israeli Jews certainly understand the value of arms. Throughout history, there were Jews who fought in defense of their people and way of life. The Torah is filled with Jews who took up arms in righteous and valiant defensive action. See, for example, The Ten Commandments of Self Defense, (Bendory and JPFO, 2009); or recall, “When Abraham heard that his nephew Lot was taken captive, he took the 318 trained soldiers of his house and pursued the captors,” defeated them, brought back Lot, and exacted retribution with their looted property. (Genesis 14:14)
Contemporary Jews may have largely acquiesced to their WWII inquisitors, but Biblical Jews resisted their Egyptian slave masters and then fought countless fierce battles against invaders and anti-Semites, such as Amelek, the Philistines and Haman.
Jews have been assaulted, accosted, and oppressed by nearly every nation and empire in history, including the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Ottomans and of course modern nations like Germany and the USSR.
Miraculously, Jews have outlasted all those who would annihilate them, typically by using force of arms. Perhaps their liberal modern approach to assault and suffering -- “Don’t fight back, it will only make matters worse” -- holds lessons for us. Or perhaps not: it is very hard to witness open-pit graves piled high with emaciated corpses without emotional revulsion. How much worse could matters get?
“Culturally proper” Jews will not want to openly face the tortured reasoning of their Faustian bargain behind “don’t make it worse.” That doesn’t make the following reasons any less real or mortally dangerous. And Jews are not alone in relying on these justifications for rejecting the fundamental human right of self defense. Many other gunless people will also recognize their feelings accurately described by what we have found.
We would not dream of interfering with a free person’s freedom to choose and embrace defenselessness or to go gunless. On the other hand, there can be no tolerance for anyone who attempts to force others to behave so dangerously.
For the Complete Article - Click Here
Ted's right, Jews are against gun ownership - he just went about publishing the fact the wrong way. On the plus side, it's time for a discussion on why Jews are against gun ownership and what can be done to change their views.
HUGE difference between American and international jewry and Israeli citizens.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
HUGE difference between American and international jewry and Israeli citizens.
Dare we speak of it?
Israeli chicks grow tits before they grow arms and they are fascinated with ant-eaters...
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Wouldn't bother standing to answer the door if that clown was out there knocking. We're of the same generation, and while he pushes the great American image, I don't forgive or forget.
Originally Posted by 1minute
Wouldn't bother standing to answer the door if that clown was out there knocking. We're of the same generation, and while he pushes the great American image, I don't forgive or forget.
looks to me like all listed were jews.he is right.
its just the racist thing again
racist= any person who dislikes another race. thats me.its a free country we as americans don't have to like everyone.we are all racist.not being racist is part of what has [bleep] this country up so bad.
i have nothing against jews as a whole but the ones he list i have a big problem with.
its just the racist thing again
racist= any person who dislikes another race. thats me.its a free country we as americans don't have to like everyone.we are all racist.not being racist is part of what has [bleep] this country up so bad.
i have nothing against jews as a whole but the ones he list i have a big problem with.
It's not a jewish thing, it's a urban big city thing. Most U.S. jews are from the largest cities in the U.S. and their families have been there since they came to this country. They're anti-gun just like 99.9% of every other big city dwellers out there. It's not because they're jews, it's because they're urbanites.
Nonsense. Look at who has drawn up and promoted every single piece of gun grabbing legislation in the last 50 years.
They're 2% of the population.
Ted Nuggent is spot on! Far too many Jews are anti-gun and liberal!
I don't hate their religion at all and I strongly support them. However, I will not support those who are liberal or anti-gun.
I don't hate their religion at all and I strongly support them. However, I will not support those who are liberal or anti-gun.
I have no way to know whether or not T. Nugent is anti-semitic or racist (I understand racism as an extreme action intent) and, as far as 2nd Amendment issues go, it matters not to me if he is either.
He has stated some bold stuff and it will draw the usual fire from folks who feel hurt - but those cited are elected officials/public figures with some modicum of power, and they have taken their own bold stands on firearms issues. They should be big enough to control their hurt and gracious enough to take the criticism.
Lesson: the truth often hurts, maybe more when stated in offensive terms.
He has stated some bold stuff and it will draw the usual fire from folks who feel hurt - but those cited are elected officials/public figures with some modicum of power, and they have taken their own bold stands on firearms issues. They should be big enough to control their hurt and gracious enough to take the criticism.
Lesson: the truth often hurts, maybe more when stated in offensive terms.
Jewish folks ARE Liberal and anti-gun, how is that anti-semite?
No matter what the faith or the nationality of anybody, when you support a cause that many believe to be anti-American, you should be called on it.
No matter what the faith or the nationality of anybody, when you support a cause that many believe to be anti-American, you should be called on it.
Nugent is one of the reasons the NRA has a public image problem. Not a lot of common sense and he has a big mouth. I grew up listening to "Sweaty Teddy", saw him in concert back in "82" and loved the show but he is a terrible face for the hunting/gun owner of the country.
Wang Dang Sweet Poontang is a classy song. 
The mere fact NWA posted against Ted, should suffice for all of us to support TEd's position.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Nonsense. Look at who has drawn up and promoted every single piece of gun grabbing legislation in the last 50 years.
I guess Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Dick Durbin, Kirsten Gillibrand, Bob Menendez etc. are all jewish too? They've all sponsored gun control legislation so your statement is BS. I'm sure there are plenty of other non-jews behind gun control legislation, I'm too lazy to look it up. Pretty much any big city politician is going to have co-sponsored some kind of gun control bill if they've been in congress any length of time.
I only have one thing to say to these folks........
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Nonsense. Look at who has drawn up and promoted every single piece of gun grabbing legislation in the last 50 years.
I guess Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Dick Durbin, Kirsten Gillibrand, Bob Menendez etc. are all jewish too? They've all sponsored gun control legislation so your statement is BS. I'm sure there are plenty of other non-jews behind gun control legislation, I'm too lazy to look it up. Pretty much any big city politician is going to have co-sponsored some kind of gun control bill if they've been in congress any length of time.
American Jews vote 3 to 1 for liberals and liberal causes, especially gun confiscation. You would think a race/religion that is universally targeted for annihilation would think otherwise.
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The mere fact NWA posted against Ted, should suffice for all of us to support TEd's position.
I think that is a well thought answer and plenty of reason to follow the Pied Piper off of that cliff. Don't let that brain you have ever force you to think on your own!
Originally Posted by luv2safari
American Jews New York City residents vote 3 to 1 for liberals and liberal causes, especially gun confiscation.
You can make the same statement about residents of any big city. It's the urbanite part of them, not the religion. Heck, most american jews don't even believe in judaism, they're mostly atheists.
I know being an ignorant democrat hayseed, clouds your thought processes, but my initial post, based on FACT, not emotion, pretty much covers my position.
The fact Ted Nugent has been an asset not only to the NRA but to gun owners in general completely escapes the likes of a moron like you (he destroys everyone when he's interviewed by anti-gun reporters, you know democrats). I'm not that keen on some of his goofy acts he puts on, but get him around a table to discuss gun control and he'll have your lunch, then again, that's an easy thing to do...
The fact Ted Nugent has been an asset not only to the NRA but to gun owners in general completely escapes the likes of a moron like you (he destroys everyone when he's interviewed by anti-gun reporters, you know democrats). I'm not that keen on some of his goofy acts he puts on, but get him around a table to discuss gun control and he'll have your lunch, then again, that's an easy thing to do...
That is part of the problem. We let the 1 and 2% run our country.
Other leaders in the "gun control" movement (they're not all Jewish)
Paul Helmke, Lutheran upbringing, former head of Brady Campaign, Republican!
Carolyn McCarthy: Catholic
Terry McAuliffe: Catholic
The Chicago Daleys: Catholic
Look around, there's more....
and they're not all Jewish either.
Geno
Paul Helmke, Lutheran upbringing, former head of Brady Campaign, Republican!
Carolyn McCarthy: Catholic
Terry McAuliffe: Catholic
The Chicago Daleys: Catholic
Look around, there's more....
and they're not all Jewish either.
Geno
I think some of you are missing the point regarding the jews and gun control. It's a question of proportionality.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Nonsense. Look at who has drawn up and promoted every single piece of gun grabbing legislation in the last 50 years.
Nonsense. Big city liberals has drawn up and promoted every single piece of gun grabbing legislation in the last 50 years. Doesn't matter what religion they are.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Nonsense. Look at who has drawn up and promoted every single piece of gun grabbing legislation in the last 50 years.
Nonsense. Big city liberals has drawn up and promoted every single piece of gun grabbing legislation in the last 50 years. Doesn't matter what religion they are.
I bet you think Ted Kennedy masterminded the 1965 immigration act too.
You must dig deeper, grasshoppa.
The_Real_Hawkeye: I could NOT give a rat'sass LESS what the a.d.l. OR the huffpost says, thinks, does!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
The reason Jews are almost entirely urban dwellers, with no tradition of hunting and shooting, is that in Europe they were prohibited from owning property (land), which, until about 150 years ago was the primary source of wealth. Accordingly, when coming to America, they settled in cities instead of clearing homesteads etc. With no farming background they could not take up the rural life, including using guns, that many of our ancestors did.
They therefore have the same anti-gun traditions that most other generational city dwellers have, including Christians. That, plus a visceral belief that most of the right wing is in fact anti semitic (which seems to be borne out by many of the posts on this thread), makes them anti-gun.
I hope that the NRA is smart enough to kick this bigot (Nugent) out of the NRA. He is an anti-semite who is an insult to the many Jews in such organizations as the JFPO who are pro-gun. He has no place in our movement.
They therefore have the same anti-gun traditions that most other generational city dwellers have, including Christians. That, plus a visceral belief that most of the right wing is in fact anti semitic (which seems to be borne out by many of the posts on this thread), makes them anti-gun.
I hope that the NRA is smart enough to kick this bigot (Nugent) out of the NRA. He is an anti-semite who is an insult to the many Jews in such organizations as the JFPO who are pro-gun. He has no place in our movement.
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I hope that the NRA is smart enough to kick this bigot (Nugent) out of the NRA. He is an anti-semite who is an insult to the many Jews in such organizations as the JFPO who are pro-gun. He has no place in our movement.
Once they endorsed Harry Reid because he was "pro gun", the NRA gave up the right to blackball ANY gun rights supporter for his politics or personal beliefs.
Here's the offending graphic:
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Talking head Debbie Schlussel showed her ass when she piled on her two shekels:
Debbie Schlussel Ted: As a religious Jew who testified with you in the Michigan Senate for relaxing gun laws and strengthening the 2nd Amendment, I'm absolutely disgusted but not at all surprised that you are showing what I always suspected: that you are a Jew-hater and a piece of crap. Ted Nugent Endorses Jews, then Announces He Hates Jews. Also, I'm sickened you invoke the slogan of Jewish Holocaust survivors, "Never Again" in mockery. Go to hell, @sshole!
She could have said "Yes, my race has a real problem and track record of confiscating guns when they get power, but I reject my fellow jews who don't stand for liberty and gun rights". No, she immediately took up for her race in a kosher knee-jerk reaction. Tells me everything I need to know about her....
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Talking head Debbie Schlussel showed her ass when she piled on her two shekels:
Debbie Schlussel Ted: As a religious Jew who testified with you in the Michigan Senate for relaxing gun laws and strengthening the 2nd Amendment, I'm absolutely disgusted but not at all surprised that you are showing what I always suspected: that you are a Jew-hater and a piece of crap. Ted Nugent Endorses Jews, then Announces He Hates Jews. Also, I'm sickened you invoke the slogan of Jewish Holocaust survivors, "Never Again" in mockery. Go to hell, @sshole!
She could have said "Yes, my race has a real problem and track record of confiscating guns when they get power, but I reject my fellow jews who don't stand for liberty and gun rights". No, she immediately took up for her race in a kosher knee-jerk reaction. Tells me everything I need to know about her....
I know many Jews who are pro 2A. One of them is so radically pro gun, he'd rival the most maniacal Christian redneck "gun nut" you know. Really, you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart. In the end, the only thing separating the two is that my buddy can spell.
This thread needs a few pics of some well armed jewish girls 
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Good man, Norman!
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You don't forgive him for what? Cat Scratch Fever? Lousy tune, but why hold a grudge for so long?
A bit wanting in character he is. Pulled some serious sh-t to avoid serving during the Vietnam era and arranged the adoption of a 16-17 (depending our source) year old island girl that he could not legally marry when he was near twice her age. Want to bet a paycheck that he was just being a benevolent dad by picking up some poor orphan? A little surfing can pull it up. Some combinations like Nugent, draft dodging, Hawaii etc will shake it out.
Struts around like he's a great American. He'd make a great politician (deny, redirect, or ignore, and it all goes away). He's great with the choir, but I don't think he's generated a single convert on 2nd Amend issues from outside the church.
Dug up a link
I'm proud to be a fan, the only celebrity that will stand up and is not afraid to lose ticket sales over it he does a great job far as I'm concerned, we need more like him if you want to keep your rights I'm not even a fan of his music really, just a great fan of what he does to help hunters and shooters
Originally Posted by rg475
I'm proud to be a fan, the only celebrity that will stand up and is not afraid to lose ticket sales over it he does a great job far as I'm concerned, we need more like him if you want to keep your rights I'm not even a fan of his music really, just a great fan of what he does to help hunters and shooters
Ted Nugent doesn't represent me or my interests. He comes across as a loudmouthed poser desperate to validate his authenticity. It's a shame the image of hunters and sportsmen has fallen victim to his celebrity.
He didn't adopt his ex-girlfriend. He negotiated with her parents to get their permission to be her legal guardian (so who is sleaziest in that agreement) and it was at 16 not 17. Get your slurs right.
I worked with men who went to high school with Ted. A great guy to hunt with, but if you had a pretty wife or girlfriend he could not control himself. He always believed he was a pack Alpha (you know, wolf stuff) and therefore special.
I worked with men who went to high school with Ted. A great guy to hunt with, but if you had a pretty wife or girlfriend he could not control himself. He always believed he was a pack Alpha (you know, wolf stuff) and therefore special.
Originally Posted by 280shooter
Years ago I had a list of members from Handgun Control Inc. It read like a Jewish phone book.
You'd think that they would have learned at least one thing from Uncle Adolf...
Originally Posted by JBGQUICK
A great guy to hunt with, but if you had a pretty wife or girlfriend he could not control himself. He always believed he was a pack Alpha (you know, wolf stuff) and therefore special.
He sounds like a great guy to be around.
Yes Isreal is full of anti gun and liberals
Originally Posted by JBGQUICK
Yes Isreal is full of anti gun and liberals
My point exactly.
Ted is an entertainer, much like Rush, he makes money by being in the news, I find him lacking in almost everything I find good, about be a man, be a friend or even an acquaintance. Yet I see nothing wrong with what he said in this interview.
The truth some times hurts!
The truth some times hurts!
Originally Posted by walt501
I saw this a few days ago and went searching for some answers. Specifically, why are Jews overwhelmingly against gun ownership. I found my answers at an unlikely place - "Jews for Firearms Preservation" web site.
It’s no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called “gun control” is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanity’s villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.
In reaction to the Holocaust, American Jews adopted the phrase “Never Again!” If actions mean anything, they don’t believe it. That’s for someone else to do. How do Jews expect to put teeth behind the words “Never Again!” if not with the ability to apply and project personal force when righteous -- and necessary -- for survival?
Why then do so many American Jews hate guns and fear gun ownership so much?
Our research identifies ten reasons why these Jews feel the way they do about self defense in general, firearms specifically and your own right to keep and bear arms.
The adamantly anti-gun-rights Jews are bowing to:
1. A desire for utopian moral purity
2. A disproportional incidence of hoplophobia
3. A quest for power through victimization of peers
4. A utopian delusion that if guns would just “go away,”
crime would end and the world would be a peaceful safe place
5. Self hatred and a wish to be helpless, acting out guilt-based
behavioral problems that develop in childhood
6. The Ostrich Syndrome
7. Garden-variety hypocrisy
8. Adulterated religion -- Jews In Name Only (JINOs)
9. Feel-good sophistry
10. Abject fear that yields irrational behavior
Despite the modern American Jewish aversion to arms, it has not always been so, and Israeli Jews certainly understand the value of arms. Throughout history, there were Jews who fought in defense of their people and way of life. The Torah is filled with Jews who took up arms in righteous and valiant defensive action. See, for example, The Ten Commandments of Self Defense, (Bendory and JPFO, 2009); or recall, “When Abraham heard that his nephew Lot was taken captive, he took the 318 trained soldiers of his house and pursued the captors,” defeated them, brought back Lot, and exacted retribution with their looted property. (Genesis 14:14)
Contemporary Jews may have largely acquiesced to their WWII inquisitors, but Biblical Jews resisted their Egyptian slave masters and then fought countless fierce battles against invaders and anti-Semites, such as Amelek, the Philistines and Haman.
Jews have been assaulted, accosted, and oppressed by nearly every nation and empire in history, including the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Ottomans and of course modern nations like Germany and the USSR.
Miraculously, Jews have outlasted all those who would annihilate them, typically by using force of arms. Perhaps their liberal modern approach to assault and suffering -- “Don’t fight back, it will only make matters worse” -- holds lessons for us. Or perhaps not: it is very hard to witness open-pit graves piled high with emaciated corpses without emotional revulsion. How much worse could matters get?
“Culturally proper” Jews will not want to openly face the tortured reasoning of their Faustian bargain behind “don’t make it worse.” That doesn’t make the following reasons any less real or mortally dangerous. And Jews are not alone in relying on these justifications for rejecting the fundamental human right of self defense. Many other gunless people will also recognize their feelings accurately described by what we have found.
We would not dream of interfering with a free person’s freedom to choose and embrace defenselessness or to go gunless. On the other hand, there can be no tolerance for anyone who attempts to force others to behave so dangerously.
For the Complete Article - Click Here
Ted's right, Jews are against gun ownership - he just went about publishing the fact the wrong way. On the plus side, it's time for a discussion on why Jews are against gun ownership and what can be done to change their views.
It’s no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called “gun control” is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanity’s villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.
In reaction to the Holocaust, American Jews adopted the phrase “Never Again!” If actions mean anything, they don’t believe it. That’s for someone else to do. How do Jews expect to put teeth behind the words “Never Again!” if not with the ability to apply and project personal force when righteous -- and necessary -- for survival?
Why then do so many American Jews hate guns and fear gun ownership so much?
Our research identifies ten reasons why these Jews feel the way they do about self defense in general, firearms specifically and your own right to keep and bear arms.
The adamantly anti-gun-rights Jews are bowing to:
1. A desire for utopian moral purity
2. A disproportional incidence of hoplophobia
3. A quest for power through victimization of peers
4. A utopian delusion that if guns would just “go away,”
crime would end and the world would be a peaceful safe place
5. Self hatred and a wish to be helpless, acting out guilt-based
behavioral problems that develop in childhood
6. The Ostrich Syndrome
7. Garden-variety hypocrisy
8. Adulterated religion -- Jews In Name Only (JINOs)
9. Feel-good sophistry
10. Abject fear that yields irrational behavior
Despite the modern American Jewish aversion to arms, it has not always been so, and Israeli Jews certainly understand the value of arms. Throughout history, there were Jews who fought in defense of their people and way of life. The Torah is filled with Jews who took up arms in righteous and valiant defensive action. See, for example, The Ten Commandments of Self Defense, (Bendory and JPFO, 2009); or recall, “When Abraham heard that his nephew Lot was taken captive, he took the 318 trained soldiers of his house and pursued the captors,” defeated them, brought back Lot, and exacted retribution with their looted property. (Genesis 14:14)
Contemporary Jews may have largely acquiesced to their WWII inquisitors, but Biblical Jews resisted their Egyptian slave masters and then fought countless fierce battles against invaders and anti-Semites, such as Amelek, the Philistines and Haman.
Jews have been assaulted, accosted, and oppressed by nearly every nation and empire in history, including the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Ottomans and of course modern nations like Germany and the USSR.
Miraculously, Jews have outlasted all those who would annihilate them, typically by using force of arms. Perhaps their liberal modern approach to assault and suffering -- “Don’t fight back, it will only make matters worse” -- holds lessons for us. Or perhaps not: it is very hard to witness open-pit graves piled high with emaciated corpses without emotional revulsion. How much worse could matters get?
“Culturally proper” Jews will not want to openly face the tortured reasoning of their Faustian bargain behind “don’t make it worse.” That doesn’t make the following reasons any less real or mortally dangerous. And Jews are not alone in relying on these justifications for rejecting the fundamental human right of self defense. Many other gunless people will also recognize their feelings accurately described by what we have found.
We would not dream of interfering with a free person’s freedom to choose and embrace defenselessness or to go gunless. On the other hand, there can be no tolerance for anyone who attempts to force others to behave so dangerously.
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Ted's right, Jews are against gun ownership - he just went about publishing the fact the wrong way. On the plus side, it's time for a discussion on why Jews are against gun ownership and what can be done to change their views.
good post
Originally Posted by JBGQUICK
Yes Isreal is full of anti gun and liberals
Close friends of my parents were Jewish when I was growing up. They were 100% anti-gun. When I became an adult, and they saw that I knew something about guns, Mr. Gold asked me to evaluate his handgun collection. Very surprised that there was such a thing at his home, I went there, and he opened a secret compartment under the stairwell to reveal a very fine collection of classic handguns. I told him that since he lives in New York State, those handguns are contraband, and not worth anything except on the black market, not being registered, and no legal way to get them registered. He said he had no intention of ever selling them anyway.
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