........it's pretty obvious that Cruz/Kasich should just plain drop out - today.. It's over for those two; has been for Kasich since Feb..

And then Cruz referred to the hoop as a 'basketball ring'. LMAO. THAT'LL go over real well in IN...

So, after last night, if they continue to stay in, isn't it then fairly well assured that the GOP is working behind doors to figure out a way to defy the voters? And what will be THAT result? Voters stayin' home and giving the election to TFP?? Or will there truly be riots in the streets from voters who do NOT WANT another career politician being foisted on 'em by the establishment GOP? Will it be the final expiration of the GOP?

Or all the above?

yep , its time

^^^^ This! ^^^^

They'd rather lose to hitlery than lose their grip on the GOP..
THat's why the preacher is still in it.. His masters at the RNC have told him to stay until they can try and fix the nomination..

What's wrong with requiring a candidate to get 50% of the vote to decide who the nominee is?

...in a perfect world, nada . Then again, when you have a concentrated effort by the party elites to thwart a majority, we get what we got instead.

Nothing, what Cruz's plan to get the magic 50% before the convention?

Same for Kasich, what are his options to get to 50% before the convention?

That's just the GOPe riggin' the system.

After last night cruz has no political future of any kind.
Very much like Rick Santa-store-chit.
Standing on a party platform that crushes middle class manufacturing jobs and sucking chi-com cock will do that for you.

dave

Is this the first presidential election that any of you have ever experienced? The rules may suck, but you don't change them at the end of the game. You play by them. I don't hear anybody bitching about the fact that Trump has 22% more delegate count than his popular vote.

The majority was thwarted by the large number of hopefuls on the stage spreading the vote out between them until quite recently. Now I know you Trumpians will not agree but had there been 5 or 6 starting out, I doubt Trump would even be in it by now.

At worst, Cruz has the most secure seat in the Senate. You guys are out there.

Not a damn thing when the POPULACE actually has a vote.

Correct and we will need him once Hillary starts nominating liberal SCOTUS

If the other candidates stay in and can somehow maintain their voter support... Trump is looking at 1270ish delegates anyway.

Kent

Good.

If he wins it outright, maybe people will stop crying about arcane caucus systems that have been in place longer than most people here have been alive.

Then, they could focus their efforts into the general, and all their wasted whining into changing the primary systems in states they aren't residents in.

Reminds me of a certain very popular representative from Texas, whos never gotten a single bill passed.
cruz ego would not allow him to keep his pie hole shut.
He could have been VP.
He could have been on the SCOTUS.
Now he will be the most ineffective member of the senate.
Secesh are pretty good at making themselves irrelevant.

dave

Nothing. But in a year when the people are fed up with politicians and political maneuvering, trying to get to 50% through political maneuvering will be suicide. Cruz was right when he said kasich should get out when he had no path to the nomination. He was hypocritical when he stayed in after his path ended.

Now is the time for republicans to unite. But Cruz wants to keep fighting for a nomination in a way that will drive off enough potential supporters that there is no way he'll win the general.

For the first time, I really believe she's NOT gonna get in..

Mainly due to this: I think the Bernsies will NOT automatically go to TFP when he drops out. The majority of the Bernsies just HATE TFP, and they might very well slide over to DT (assuming he's the candidate). There's a LOT of Bernsies - and moving most of those against her via the GOP entry means she's absolutely TOAST..

That - and the fact that DT's got balls, and will go after her with a ferocity she cannot match - nor will her record in gov't help her one teeny bit.

And with the FBI breathing down her neck, I think she's gonna have a very BAD year..

I'll agree that starting out with 17 people didnt help a thing.
We cant very well start telling anyone they cant run for president though.
.... and as far as the process, you have to ask yourself, which candidate came by what he has the most honestly ? ...even after factoring in the Caucus states ?
Keep in mind there were never any : # never ... JEB! or
Marco or
Carly or
Christy or
Huck or ......

or meetings on Sea Island for the specific purpose of stopping anyone but Trump.... unless Ive missed something ?

Trump Likely to Break GOP-vote Record for All-Time
By KYLE CHENEY
04/26/16 11:42 PM EDT
Updated 04/27/16 12:06 AM EDT

With his five blowout wins Tuesday night, Donald Trump has passed Mitt Romney’s popular vote total from four years ago and is on a trajectory that could land him more Republican votes than any presidential candidate in modern history – by a lot.

Trump surged to 9.9 million votes, according to totals that include Tuesday’s preliminary results across the northeast and could rise further as the final votes are counted. That’s already more than 100,000 more than Romney earned in the entire 2012 primary season and tens of thousands more than John McCain earnedin 2008.

Trump is certain to pass McCain’s total next week in Indiana, but more importantly, he’s positioned to easily pass the modern record-holder George W. Bush — who collected 10.8 million votes in 2000.

That presents an uncomfortable reality for anti-Trump forces: they’re attempting to thwart the candidate who is likely to win more Republican primary votes than any GOP contender in at least the last 36 years, and maybe ever.

In an email to POLITICO, University of Minnesota political science professor (and Smart Politics blogger) Eric Ostermeier noted that only eight candidates have won more than 7.5 million Republican primary votes since the advent of the modern primary and caucus system. Ronald Reagan won about 7.7 million votes in 1980, the fewest other than George W. Bush’s 7.6 million in 2004, when he didn’t face a primary challenge.

George H. W. Bush clocked in at 8.2 million votes in 1988 and 9.2 million in 1992, while Bob Dole earned 8.4 million in 1996.

I haven't been following this much and I just plain don't get it. How can Trump win in one state with 71 delegates and only get 17 of them? And another state with 19 and only get 9 ?
I know he says the system is corrupt and screwed up....duh....

Because his absolute no-schitt never-to-be-broken don't-even-think-about-it ceiling is 25%, right?

Yes, I guess the best thing about not having cable TV is not being bombarded by media rhetoric trying to sell the latest story line, don't listen to radio shock jocks. I've even come to using a filter here where I balance my opinion with others.

I don't get being emotionally upset every three day cycle over what media thinks is the latest hullabaloo.

Kent

Not a huge fan of any candidate, but Cruz being a "lock" in Texas........
don't say a lot for Texas......
or Texans.

You guys, really??
Three months ago any #nevertrump people[not just Cruz folks] were stating how once the field narrowed Trump was done, finished, kaput. 35% was his ceiling no matter how many candidates were in. Doesn't seem like that is what happened.

The same way he can get 45% of the votes in Florida and gets 100% of the delegates.

Reagan won 525 electoral votes to 13 for Mondale in '84 by winning 49 states to 1.

Kent

Or get 43% of the votes and become president.

Looks like another Texan was working for the Dems in that election.

I don't think so. Democrats vote Democrat no matter what or who. Satin himself could run as a (D) and get the Democrat vote.

That said, the Bernie supporters are Socialists and hate Trump way more than Hillary.

To the Bernie babies, Trump is what is wrong with this country, an evil rich businessman that has taken from the poor and given to himself.

Trump campaigns on bringing jobs and growth back to America. Bernie Babies do not want jobs and do not what to work to be successful, they just want free stuff and for the Government to take care of them.

...and if they can't have Bernie, they will without a doubt take Hillary as they know that free stuff and increased welfare comes from the Democrat party, not the Evil Businessman.

Yup. Democrats have 47% of the vote to start.

Trumps home state of NY...wow he is bringing new voters to the polls in masses right? The Dems are staying home right?

Trumps votes in NY primary 1/2 Million, Sanders 3/4 of a million,Hillary 1 1/2 million votes

Keep fooling yourselves thinking Trump will bring more new voters than Dems can keep up with

Last hope is Hillary gets indicted

How man y did Cruz bring to the Republican table?

The Dem primary vote this year is down 20%.

Trump has far many more total popular votes than Clinton, by a huge percentage.

It's about swing states, always is. 2012 the difference in all swing states combined was less than 1 million votes. Florida itself was 74,309, .88%.

Kent

Guys be honest stop the spin,Cruz had 2 votes in NY one was mine.That just makes the argument even worse for the Republicans.The Dems will vote in the general the republicans will be butt hurt whether Trumpers or Cruzers or the anyone but Trumpers. Turn out will not be record setting in the general as in the primary race
Trumps starting with dumb comments already the Hillary woman comment yesterday was stupid and detrimental,but that's Trump he'll just roll with his 30-35% and remain there

F the popular vote.

Are we going to end up tossing the electoral college this year for Trump?

Add that the Bern has brought out many, many new voters and they are still down. And while the MSM is skirting this issue the Bern voters and HRC voters are fighting just as much if not more than the Cruz/Trump people. It's not all sunshine and lolipops in DNC land irregardless of how much DWS says it is.

We NEED to toss the electoral college...it would be one step towards your vote actually counting...

You fail to see the effect of a closed state primary. With a closed primary more truth can be found in the writings on a restroom wall.

and insure democratic rule forever

What's so hard to understand about 1,237?

I could make arguments either way, and for the most part agree with you, but just like the TOTAL CLUSTER [bleep] that is the primaries, it is what it is right now.

Short of armed rebellion, it isn't going to help with the Hillary ouster.

Bullschit, Trump would have pulled a fraction of those votes away nothing remotely close to carry NY

Worst idea, ever.

I see Hillary as having more.

Nothing, by the time dust settles one candidate will have that... usually what happens.

Kent

I started out about a year ago as a fan of Scott Walker (still am) but he didn't last long. For a short while (real short) I thought Kasich might be a winner but soon tired of his self-centered rhetoric. I moved to Cruz and have stayed there for months.........until recently. I have come to a place where I can't stand to watch him speak with his mannerisms and bobble head ways. The teaming with Kasich and his politician stretching of the truth have ended my affair with Cruz. I have come around to just going to accept the fact that Trump is the likely nominee, and if so, will get my vote in November. And to be honest, if he wins and tries to do what he has stated he will do, he will be good for America.

Really go do a quick check of 5 stall and I bet you'll read at least one "you cruz you lose".

I will take all bets that Trump does not carry NY come November

Yeah dumping the EC would be GREAT - it would eliminate any voice from the 25 least populated states and make all those red states in the middle of the country irrelevant. Brilliant.

You/WE MAY want to do that!

However, the system we have has served 'fairly' well. Problems? Absolutely.

The reality is that there has NEVER been a direct voter/election of a POTUS.

Total votes cast that actually produced a POTUS since 1964 is 538 for each Presidential Election.

The States each have 'Electors' and it is the States that determine the method of selecting them and the guidance on how they are to cast a vote. Some 'Free-range' some based on the 'will' of the state citizens, or a combination.

It is a messy 'balance' to be sure.

One Man/One Vote sounds really good, however Constitutionally it was/is not contemplated.

Pure democracy is little more than SANCTIONED Mob-Rule.

JTHRaRoAPOMM

Bingo.............

OH, WI, FL, VA and NC. Everything else is already decided.

I will be the first to admit that Im ignorant on how our political system works. I find it frustrating that its not just plain simpler...i.e. people vote, you count them up and the guy with the most votes wins....

But that obviously is not how it works....or even close.


Makes me wonder why you guys get so spooled up about your 'vote'....

for the electoral college to go, only land owners and actual tax payers would be allowed to vote, among other things.

Until people legislated the workarounds.

It would be fun for about 20 years though.

I sure as schitt don't see anything wrong with that concept....

Ingwe, you are not alone.

Sadly, most in this country do not realize that the very first direct election of a U.S. Senator didn't occur until AFTER 1913, with the ratification of the 17th Amen.

Prior to that, Senators were appoionted/chosen/seleccted by the various STATE Houses.

You want to change something???


IMHO, repeal the 17th..................

19th while you're at it?

Yep. Things would be very different already if the popular vote was followed, rather than the delegate system. Reduce it to the top two and run them off. It works for the States.

The next step would be to make the vote counters accountable...

Believe it or not, I sometimes question their math.....

It's not the math, hanging electrons are small and hard to decipher.
Believe it or not, yesterday I voted by filling in circles on paper with a #2 pencil. It was fed into a card reader just like High School in the 1970s. This is after the state and counties invested in new high tech, fool proof, electronic voting machines to replace the old low tech paper punch voting machines. Where did that money really go?

I think we are going to wish that the senate had confirmed Merrick Garland for the Supreme Court once Hillary is elected.

If the R's lose, and it's looking more every day that Hillary will be handed the office by the Trumpinator, they can still approve Garland as long as Obama doesn't pull the nomination.

*That* is a succinct and accurate description of what is going on. The fact that so many self-professed 'freedom lovers' and 'conservatives' and 'Christians' here are supportive of it is hypocritically hilarious...but not surprising at all.

Basketball ring. Lmfao

Cruz voice..."Listen folks it's like this: if the rules of football require everyone to acquire a football bat....then you betta get a football bat."

I completely agree. I still don't care for Trump, but the majority of the voters do. The writing's on the wall. Momentum is everything in this process, and Trump clearly has it.

I for 1 like the college being there.

It stops the majority from screwing over the minority.

It was put there as a firewall to keep a dictator from jumping the country with a popular vote,as an example exiling all folks that train Police dogs.

If it happened it would destroy what we know as a free country.