http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/05/all-ur-base-no-longer-belongs-2-u.html

I think this may be part of what is sweeping the country as well.
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Definition: Republicanism is the ideology embraced by members of a republic -- a form of government in which leaders are elected for a specific period by the preponderance of the citizenry, and laws are passed by leaders for the benefit of the entire republic, rather than a select aristocracy. In an ideal republic, leaders are selected from among the working citizenry, serve the republic for a defined period, then return to their work, never to serve again.

Republicanism stresses several key concepts; notably, the importance of civic virtue, the benefits of universal political participation, the dangers of corruption, the need for separate powers and a healthy reverence for the rule of law.

From these concepts, one paramount value stands apart -- political liberty. For Republicans, political liberty entails not only freedom from government interference in private affairs, it also places great emphasis on self-discipline and self-reliance.




Political liberty keeps government out of individuals' lives (unless to do this threatens the republic as a whole), it also prevents the government from becoming a guardian to its individuals. The role of government in a republic is to safeguard the collective republic.



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More than anything, I think it's the desire for Nationalism that's driving Trump's support.

Globalism is wrecking the world,..and both the GOP and the Democrats are on board with the globalist agenda.

That's got to end if there's going to be an America in the world that's anything like it was meant to be.

Excellent! Spot on.

Yep. That and middle-aged white guy disenfranchisement.

"[F]or decades, beginning with the John Birch Society, conservatives have been reading people out of the conservative movement.

And now, they have read so many people out of conservatism that the movement is no longer, in any practical sense of the term, a popular movement ... I'm an alt right figurehead, but I'm no conservative. Jerry is an old school Cold Warrior, but he's no conservative. From Ann Coulter to John Derbyshire to Mark Steyn to Paul Craig Roberts, the best intellects of the right are all ex-conservatives.

And now the Republican base, has realized that they, too, have been effectively read out. Just as the Democratic Party left Ronald Reagan, conservatism has left the Republican grass roots behind."

Spot on.

I agree with you, globalism is killing us, but I also think Republicanism and Nationalism have a lot of similarities and coexist very well.

whatever possessed the GOP to go along with globalism is beyond me. The saying that the two parties are different sides of the same coin is not to much of a reach.

The neocons. The real right was gradually kicked, faction by faction, out of the conservative movement, till there was little left but neoconservatives, and they've run the show in the Republican Party establishment since the late 1980s, taking complete control after 9/11/2001.

About all you do anymore when voting republican is to vote against communism. Both parties have been lost to the enemy.

No doubt about it. In fact, it wasn't that long ago that Nationalism was a given regardless of which party was at the helm.

Nationalism isn't new. Globalism is.

Now, if you want to make sure to set yourself apart from the globalist movement you have to really hammer home a Nationalist message.

It's not just middle aged guys supporting Trump.

The reason his rallies take on the atmosphere of a rock concert is because of all the younger people in the crowd.

There'a a fairly serious backlash occurring against liberalism in the 25-40 age group.

The relentless advance of Communism in US politics has been intertwined with pressure for globalism.

Maybe, at some point, some of these milennial SJW's will realize that, while they are not AMERICA'S 1%ers, they ARE the world's 1%er's, and will be expected to "share" if they get their wish for globalism??? I doubt it, though.

Good point.

My 25 YO hard working redneck son agrees.

So you've been to a few rallies?

Like it or not, Bristoe, what you've said is like standing in front of a walking elephant and Trump can't change that. It's gonna happen in the fullest and most of Globalization already has happened.

Sorry if I missed it, but isn't Mr. Trump in fact a globalist? Does he not buy political influence with large donations to political candidates as well (most of them democrats)? Until we, as a people, seek and turn back to GOD, we are headed down the slope of bondage and despair without brakes. To even entertain the idea that Donald Trump as president is in any way going to slow down this crazy train, is like fighting over the bar tab on the titanic.

Trump is a businessman who is running for President on a Nationalist/Populist platform.

Globalists are politicians who want to flood America with illegal aliens and Muslim refugees.

I think you're right on with that summary.

I'm a conservative, Trump isn't a conservative. I liked Dr. Ben and Cruz, both conservatives. But, I'm a realist.

Trump brings some things to the table that are needed, namely a revolt against the status quo. That movement transcends party lines as seen with the Bernie phenomenon. Hopefully, Trump can mobilize some those folks and pull off a win. Not sure if that will happen, but it's possible.

Pundits and pollsters are often wrong, using data and formulas from past election cycles that are no long relevant. Few understand or will admit to what's going on, as it erodes their power bases and positions.

The media have a dog in this hunt, don't believe they don't.

Interesting times.

DF

Trump has millions of $$ invested in overseas businesses.

But he makes campaign promises that he's going to create trade wars that will raise consumer prices enough that jobs will come home.

Which would cost him a ton of income.

Everybody has to choose whether they believe a candidate or not for themselves.

That's a lie.

Why can't you Cruz supporters discuss the election without lying?

If jobs come home, cell phone prices will be more, most consumer stuff now made is sweat shops all over the world will cost more.

Will that be a "tax" on American consumers to strengthen the local economy? Not sure, but will it be worth it if it does? Could be inflationary.

Our whole economy, the world economy for that matter, is fragile, a house of cards if you will. Do we try shoring up our end, or ride it into the ground?

Doing nothing may not be the best option.

Letting Muzzies infiltrate and blow us up doesn't look to me like a smart move.

Letting our military become a P.C. social experiment may not be a good option.

Socialism doesn't work anywhere, hasn't worked anywhere historically, why push it here?

What's wrong with America First?

Lots of complicated questions, all with consequences.

BUT, we need to change direction or we're going into the Abyss...

America is still a great country, hopefully great enough to make necessary corrections before it's too late.

The jury is still out...

IMO,

DF

How's it a lie? You really have no idea at all of what Trump is for or against, do you? Just gobbling up the little sound bites of how awesome life will be.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-trade-idUSKCN0WQ0WG

Good post.

Bring the giant scam to an end, and it won't matter if things cost more, because Americans will be prosperous again, and able to afford it, and then some.

They don't care. Just posting the Trump lies and calling Cruz the liar.

4/7/16 Cruz: “Hillary Clinton has made MILLIONS of dollars selling power and access in Washington.
And Donald Trump has made BILLIONS of dollars buying power and access in Washington.”

Your candidate has a loose connection.

He went up to some Trump supporters today, launched into his "Trump hate speech" and ended up getting humiliated.

He's making an ass of himself every time he goes on TV.

It's time for somebody who has some influence on the man to intervene.

The world is learning that he's a nut.

His mental state is becoming a topic of interest on the cable news shows.

Simplistic reductionist thinking may help you rationalize why you choose believe a populist demagouge, but it doesn't make it true. You get to have an opinion but not to make up your own 'facts.'

Trump is running on a "Nationalist/Populist platform" because he thinks it will improve his chances of getting elected. But his record is one of off-shoring, hiring aliens - legal and illegal - to replace US citizens as cheaper labor, and of buying off politicians for his own plutocratic purposes.

That's the guy you think is going to turn back the clock to traditional American values and dethrone the Washington establishment? I'd laugh but it's all too tragically serious for that.

Having spent most of his life "swimming with the sharks" in Manhattan real estate and in building stuff all over the world, Donald has had to adapt and innovate to survive and flourish.

I don't think people can "pigeon hole" him to predict how he'll act in a Presidential role, by how he swam in the real estate/business/finance cess pool.

He'll adapt.

I'm not a Trumpster, just an observer.

IMO,

DF

The Washington establishment has been doing backflips for months to try to keep Trump from getting the nomination.

If you're too obtuse to see or hear anything else and to understand what it means,..you should at least be able to see *that*.

Those who can't are responsible for the herd of globalists who currently run America.

The Washington establishment still hates Cruz more than Trump.

They know which one will "Make deals"

All the rest of the so-called conservatives have been "making deals" for years...none of them have benefited the country.

Do you remember when Bush 43 expanded the federal gov more than any president in the last 40-50 years?

And your words are supposed to make us all feel good about Trump????

We all know Clinton signed it, but who brought us NAFTA?

If Trump does 25% of what he says he'll do, he'll have done more than anyone has for a quite some time. Based on the last century of performance, we should ban presidential candidates from Texas...even Ike was a big government man to a fairly large degree.

Bristoe, I think you mean to say that Mr. Trump is a multi-national businessman. He profits from cheap labor in Mexico and China to produce goods with his "brand" name attached to them, in the U.S. He imports cheap foreign labor to staff his hotel in Florida, as well. He has a proven track record of giving money to democrat politicians in order to receive benefits in return. Somebody as connected as he is to the world banking, political, and business system has to be a globalist. Call his "platform" what you want, but his track record speaks for itself. Enjoy the carnival now folks, PT Barnum is guaranteed to entertain.

Who contributes large amounts of money to any politician and does not expect something in return? I'd say he has a pretty good idea what needs to be dealt with.

If any of you think Ted Cruz is not bought and paid for, you're deluded. I used to support Cruz fully. I've come to see that he's no real conservative, just a squeaky wheel looking for grease.

He's a very successful businessman. He's now running for the GOP nomination on a platform of Nationalism/Populism.

He's never been in a position to be a globalist. That's in the realm of political policy making.

Trump has never held political office.

Just wait. Someday when we're all dead, there will be one world government and it will be global communism. America will be working to support 10 billion people...

If Mr. Trump is the nominee, we are guaranteed a New York Liberal in the White House. Either Hillary, or Donald. Same coin, different sides. Let me know how that works out for ya. (By the way, Bush 43 was not a Conservative). If Mr. Trump's plans run counter to the rinos and dems in Congress, how, again, is he going to get them accomplished? Are you a Conservative? I ask, because I am very surprised at the number of people here at the fire, that are not.

So Bristoe, you can't be a globalist unless you've held public office? The dogcatcher in searchlight, nevada can be a globalist, but valerie jarret, michelle obama, and george soros can't be? What about all the wall street bad guys, all the Jews controlling everything, the FED, etc.? The carnival is indeed fun, no?

I guess we're screwed either way then.

The only president worth a [bleep] in my lifetime was a former California leftist.

I'm more of a constitutionalist than what is called a conservative, I believe in the founding principals. A lot of what passes for conservatism is a joke, to include Bush father and son.

As I said, ban all presidential candidates from Texas...I doubt any group has been more damaging to the country in the last century...aside from Obama himself.

Either way, yes, we get a New York City liberal. It's by design. . I would agree as to being a Constitutionalist. Bush senior and junior are in no way true Conservatives (or Constitutionalists for that matter). If we as a people do not turn back to GOD and HIS intent for this country (HE definitely guided the founding of this country), we will be lost. Sometimes, we have to hit rock bottom in order to reach out to HIM. Maybe we just aren't there yet. Matt 6:33.

Reminds me of an alcoholic. Those guys must hit bottom before they come to grips/terms with their pathology. From that vantage point, there's no direction but up.

And before the alcoholic gets to that point, you know he's lying any time his lips are moving...

Either America gets judged or Sodom and Gomorrah deserve an apology...

DF

Both parties used to fight for the middle ground politically, back in the late 40's- mid 60's, before special interests and donors started pushing each side to their prospective corners. The left started going farther left and the right farther to the right because with the donor support they would receive more money to campaign, and more support from individual groups, be it the NRA or NAACP. The core of each party started getting more devisive and less representative of the American middle.

The middle ground is where the majority of voters are, but by staying with the middle, special interest groups don't get fast results regarding social change, like with LGBT rights for example. What you do get with staying with the middle politically, is lasting and accepted change with social issues that are more widely accepted. But, that is not a quick enough turn around time for big business or the special interest's to take advantage of.

What Trump and Sanders have done is to gain support from the middle, where the donor class, special interest groups, and professional politicians have forgotten "the people". The result of that is 40%+ of the electorate is fed up with the system that doesn't represent them, has no intention of representing them, and so the middle roaders are flexing their muscles, and bringing the political system back to where it doesn't want to go...putting average American's interests first.

It shows how twisted the process has gotten, when the media and insiders think that the two primary politicians who are bringing in the biggest crowds (Trump and Bernie) are horrible candidates with unworkable platforms. That is what the electorate would rather have this round, horrible platforms that are not run by special interests and donors, rather than the status quo that takes them for granted, or forgets the people altogether.

Conservatism is all but dead, Liberalism has become a PC joke, and the only way to get representation is to go with an outsider no matter how "bad" he is. This election is a rebuke of the political establishment of both sides, and the establishment still doesn't understand, or really want to address that there is a problem.

That is how Trump gains support, by laying it out how the people have been getting screwed, what the reasons are, and how he is going to take hard stances against those policies that aren't PC in the least. Basically going after middle of the road Americans who have been forgotten by design of the special interest and donor political process.

He's put the dividing lines between D and R where he wants them, and once Cruz finally is done and we are on to the general election, the field now is much easier for him to gain voters than it will be for Hillary, which is a good thing for our side.

The media and "insiders" are like drunken sailors, relishing in their pathology, impervious to the "real world" or "fly over country" as they call us.

Well, I hope this election cycle changes that; it's a coup, a revolution of sorts...

The wind in the The Donald's sails, H-Dog is sailing against the "wind" of this new paradigm.

Pundits and pollsters are getting a lot wrong by using models and formulas from past election cycles. Well, the rules have changed and are changing.

DF

And you speak the truth do you?

A lot of names and general mud has been slung by the folks that support Trump,even when he has not reached 1237.

I don't know how one can do that then call someone else out for untruths,with a straight face.

I will vote the one running against the dem in the fall but some comments made by Trump still make me wonder what he will really do.

YMMV

Dirt farmer. Yes, we as a country are that Alcoholic. (or fill in the blank...) When we get to "rock bottom", we have a choice to make. Either turn back to GOD, or not. There will be no change (revolution or revolt) until the gov. checks quit coming and the grocery store shelves are bare. And even then, all the guys with any back bone are too old to do anything. This election will elect a New York City liberal, no matter what you and I think, feel, or do. We can only effect change starting with ourselves. If our country is made up of 300 million people who are self sourced and not Christ sourced, then we are in deep doo doo. Our Founding Fathers warned that an immoral people cannot rule themselves. Enjoy the ride boys, it's going to entertaining for sure.

As was Obama's last 2 elections. jus sayin.

Lolololol...like your/our vote counts.... Lolololol....sucker's!

Hmmm. Would you happen to recall, by chance, Bush/Gore and the hanging chads in Fla.? The SCOTUS decision from that, maybe?

Like the thread said,...

Fugg Cruz.

But is the GOP base large enough to affect change these days?

Bristoe, Martha Lane Collins brought Toyota to Kentucky in the eighties, Ford in Louisville and GM in Bowling Green has used "outsourced" parts for as long, Most Kentucky distilleries are owned by foreign companies and LexMark has been bought by the Chinese.

Tell me how Trump et al are going to reverse Globalism.

Tariffs,...just like Reagan did.

The biggest threat from globalism is the invasion of America with illegal immigrants and Muslim Refugees.

Trump will just say "no more of that".

Anybody in Congress who bucks him will get the veto pen applied to any bill they want passed.

They'll learn quick enough.