So what does it take to bring down an angry gorilla?

17HMR to the head? Or an'06 to center mass?

I seem to remember Papa Hemingway alluding to a certain hunter who shot gorillas in one of his stories. Actually I think the short story was about boxing. Been a while since I read it. I remember him also mentioning going to A&F to buy a Colt Woodsman in the same story.

223 AI, what else.

I was wondering that myself, with the news report of the zoo employee shooting it.

Got me to thinking it was probably a pretty substantial caliber. I mean, it might not be a 400lb gorilla they had to deal with. It could be up to rhino, hippo, or even elephant sized threats.

Forty shot and four dead in Chicago so far this weekend.
Mostly 9mm.

Can't speak for the Cincinnati Zoo, but our Riverbanks Zoo here in Columbia keeps a CZ .458 Win, a Whitworth .375 and a Winchester .338 Win on hand for "emergencies" . The keepers who work with the big animals must qualify with them every year. They buy the ammo from us (gun shop) and they bring me a big bag of the fired brass when they're done. We actually sold two CZs in .505 Gibbs to a large zoo up North several years ago.

Ruger .44 carbine.

That gorilla looks pretty excited about that little Ruger Carbine.

That'd go over well with the "Save the Gorilla" crowd...

LOL!

Rollin'


Aqualung

A turbo charged taser will work and you get a comedy skit in the bargain.

Since the other post about the African calibers, that may be. I think I would opt for a short range 12 ga with slugs or buck. I feel for the zoo person who had to do the job, I would not want to have to do that.

Good thing Mayor Rahm called for a no-gun weekend.

What was story with the 44 mag? I couldn't make out the text.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was a 308


I can'twrap.my mind around the "remorse" angle....it's just a fuggin animal

Regardless of the inability of the parent, the infants life is vastly more important than that ape

That's reasoning that escapes liberals.

It's a screwed up deal. The zoo ought to sue that woman for the cost of that gorilla.

A pat on the back and a written letter of apology?

Seems it escapes a few here as well

That woman should be banned from every zoo, aquarium and theme park for life. She should also be responsible for the value of the gorilla.

What value does a caged gorilla really have?...it has no trophy value which would provide money to local communities, it ain't going to end up on a wall, and it ain't going to feed hungry villagers.

This Walt Disneyesque ideology about animals is rediculous


It is what it is a an unfortunate incident that could have ended up with the zoo paying out millions over a dead child I'd call the dead monkey a wash

King Kong got it the same way; except he fell for a blonde

Looks more like a [bleep].

the phoenix zoo for quite a few years was buying ammo from a friend of mine's gun store. every year it was the same, several boxes of 30.06 180 grain corelokt.

I heard the Dallas Zoo keeps a .458 around, in case one of the big ones gets loose.

The value of an animal that is one of only several hundred in existence is increased by its rarity. I heard a conservative value of a million dollars. The gorilla actually earns money through attendance not to mention the other hard costs of permits and acquisition.

The zoos actually pay lots of money for those animals and male gorillas are a pretty rare and hit commodity. The kid should have had his ass beaten before it got to that point. Apparently, he had been talking bout jumping in the water well before he slipped through about three fences and did it.

First and foremost, the parents should have been watching him. Second, a child should not be able to defeat the barrier. Third, once the ape had the kid, there is no way of knowing what he would do. Hit him with a tranquilizer and chance that it might piss him off? Nobody wants to see a 4 year old ripped in half. Nope, drop him NOW. Whatever happened, the kid is a higher priority than the ape.

I know some of you are old enough to remember the "Oh what a feeling!!" Toyota commercials. That is the first thing I thought of when I saw the monkey in that picture.

The kraut officers used a 9MM Luger.They would haze the gorillas into making them charge and then head shoot them.

Nothing as he would have just given the lad the directions to get out instead of trying to steal his pants.

They should have thrown the parents into the enclosure to save their child!

Definitely agree...as it stands the parents should be liable for expenses occurred.

What about the responsibility of the zoo to have barriers that a young child can't pass through?

I sure hope they don't let the big ape go to waste. Have it stuffed, complete with small boy dangled by his ankle and displayed at the zoo. It would be a great example for the children.

Wonder if monkey meat taste like chicken?

There was a guy on another board who was familiar with the zoo who said that the kid must have been very determined to get in there and had to go through, around, and over something like three different barriers.

This is also correct.

That was my first thought upon hearing about this. What kind of a piss-poor excuse for a barrier was that which would allow a little kid to get in there?

Barriers probably erected for children of a reasoning age.

Little children would be watched after by their parents.

Parents screwed up and altered the calculus of what they prepared for by being so incompetent.

The zoo had 3 barriers that were effective for something like 38 years and millions upon millions of visitors. However if even one kid can figure a way around it the barrier needs to be improved. The zoo acted correctly in my opinion, the parents not so much.

And a simple plexiglass barrier 4 feet tall would have prevented this entire thing,


Sometimes we forget just how quickly a small child can dissapeared from our vision, especially if you are also supervising other young children (I'm not sure if there was any other kids, but it bears consideration )

Another woman tried for several minutes to stop the kid from going over the fence and to come back inside the railing while his negligent mom was completely oblivious.

This is the kind of kid who runs around raising holy hell in a public space while his otherwise oblivious parents occasionally look in his direction with an admiring smile.

I'd bet a paycheck those parents couldn't afford their tickets to the zoo with out government help.

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The parents of the year.

Yep, better get the govt involved here. Personal responsibility and basic parenting skills are way overrated.

They look better fed and dressed than I and mine.

Has nothing to do with the government.

It's simple liability mitigatiin

People don't want to see fences and plexiglass barriers and modern zoos are designed to limit the amount of unsightly physical barriers

Unbelievable, the word c h imp an z ee is censored. Political correctness has ruined this country.

A buddy of mine thinks the kid mistook the gorilla for his uncle.

From the looks of it, the gorilla probably didn't outweigh the kid's mom but by about fifty pounds.

guess black lives don't matter to again...

Fuçk zoos and fûck Seaworld.

The Dark Continent rocks. All this entertainment and no ticket for admission................


Gump had a few choice words about such things.

Gotta be photoshopped.


No way they could have known who the kids father was....

What is Darwin's view on this???

...would he would recommend feeding the parents to the lions.

Amusing as this thread has been, it is very likely the parents are still on their knees thanking God that the zoo staff shot the gorilla.

If they are not then they damn well should be.

There was a guy over on AR who was a cop that killed a loose gorilla with his double. Can't remember the caliber.

See the post with the unedited video and pretend the screams are from your child

A kid dumb enough to go thru multiple barriers to get to a large ape should probably be culled from the herd to stop the stupid gene from spreading to future generations.



I don't particularly have a fondness for apes but it's annoying some dumb kid with obviously dumber parents gets an ape who was minding his own business shot.

I read an account yesterday where eyewitnesses told them the 4 yr old had been threatening his parents to climb over. They were warned.

My boys at four had enough skills to climb a fence and about everything else. The parents are at fault.

I for one see value in the ape as there are very few of them around. On the other had there seems to be more than enough of these "good little boys". The loss of this child would have been a terrible loss to the family, however they might pay better attention to the rest of their children and dole out some discipline after. Had the boy been spanked more often he wouldn't have been acting like a primate himself.

Yeah, the gene-pool obviously needs a good dose of chlorine.

30-30

I'm one of those people that has lost track of my child a time or two. I don't know any (honest) parent that hasn't had that type of minor panic attack.

I also know if raccoons or my kids want to access something, they'll access it. I don't care what you build around it.

And I know I don't give a fugk about a big monkey getting shot.

Last but not least, I've hated zoos and SeaWorld type establishments since I was a child. If you want to see an elephant, buy a fugking plane ticket.

Go Trump.




Clark

Curious if this was a "lost track of child" issue, or a "hold him over the barrier so he can get a better look" issue.

I could care less about the Gorilla, but I wanna know as soon as they open Baboon season. I could shoot out several barrels on a good baboon colony in an afternoon and not even care.

I saw an Asian man dangling a 3 year old over the alligator pit at the L.A. zoo. I couldn't believe it. The pit was only 6' lower than the rail. And I mean leaning over the rail and dangling the kid. I didn't know if the 'gators had the learned behavior of leaping up to snatch treats from handlers but that was my first thought.

Funny, in that initially, folks were making this a "black lives matter" issue, until they found that and ape was killed to protect a black kid.

It's MIKEWERNER!!!




Dave

Read on twitter:

PRIVILEGE ALERT: As millions of people starve in Venezuela, wasteful Americans throw away hundreds of pounds of perfectly good gorilla meat.

Yeah, they're piss-poor shots...(holding the gun wrong,not used to the gun,(just recently stole it))