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Posted By: stillhunter73 Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
I'm just curious what people think about Comey, at this point.

For eons now, we've all been waiting for this supposed indictment. For the most part, it's been accepted that it hasn't come because they keep finding more crap to investigate. But if that's the logic to the overall process, it seems clear that this investigation could theoretically last 30 years. Isn't it reasonable to expect at this point that the FBI should/would have enough information to begin the process?

We all know Lynch won't accept the indictment but the "word" was that if the DOJ stifled the rest of the process we would see "high level resignations" followed by "serious leaks from the FBI" to the public.

No request for an indictment, no resignations, no significant leaks. It just seems like if Comey was truly concerned about the American people having the right to vote for "viable candidates", some or all of this should have already happened.

Add to that the strange behavior of Comey following the Orlando shooting. Within hours of the disaster, he's running around making statements that he's certain everything happened the way it should with regard to their original investigations of this guy. I just don't think he could have made an honest audit of that investigative process in the time he had before issuing that statement.

The thing that bothers me is that "if" Dir. Comey was still on the up & up, Orlando (and Obama's 8 years of policy) is the direct reason there is serious mud in the FBI's eye right now. What more could possibly be required before this man finally decides to take what he has and follow through as best as he can?

If you guys see this another way, please feel free to explain it to me. It's just that every day that goes by, I'm beginning to think they got to James Comey like they've gotten to everybody else.

Thoughts?
Posted By: stevelyn Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
I'm not sure what special rules the feral govt follows, but the way it works in the states is that the LE agency conducts the investigation and can arrest or forward the report to the DA who'll then either, dismiss it outright, file a complaint with the court and request an arrest warrant, or hold a grand jury hearing to determine if there is enough evidence to charge and go to trial.

The FBI can't do schitt if there are no AUSAs that will accept a case. AUSAs get their marching orders from the AG and Loretta Lynch is their Gruppenfuhrer right now.

So.................. Do you really think the Dept. of inJustice is going to go forward with prosecuting anyone in the regime?

As far as Orlando goes, I'm sure that Comey is under pressure from above to not call spades spades. It would explain his demeanor if he has any conscience at all.

If it were me, I would be fast-tracking my tell-all book and executing my exit strategy from the corrupt regime.
Posted By: stillhunter73 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Originally Posted by stevelyn


So.................. Do you really think the Dept. of inJustice is going to go forward with prosecuting anyone in the regime?



No, I said as much in that I know the DOJ won't move on it. But it's still incumbent upon the FBI to "do all they can", which would include filing their findings now while there is still time for the public to hear about it.

I don't know. The guy seems either defeated or complicit. He certainly doesn't seem like the guy he was even a few months ago.
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Sold out?
no, just following orders
Posted By: stillhunter73 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Isn't that branch supposed to be autonomous?
Posted By: Stevil Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Comey's dropped the ball big time, the political distraction of the ongoing Clinton bullcrap has meant the FBI is leader less.

He needs to resign asap as hes not upto the the job !
Posted By: stevelyn Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Originally Posted by stillhunter73
Originally Posted by stevelyn


So.................. Do you really think the Dept. of inJustice is going to go forward with prosecuting anyone in the regime?



No, I said as much in that I know the DOJ won't move on it. But it's still incumbent upon the FBI to "do all they can", which would include filing their findings now while there is still time for the public to hear about it.

I don't know. The guy seems either defeated or complicit. He certainly doesn't seem like the guy he was even a few months ago.



Comey has been put into a box.
Posted By: GeoW Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
No checks and balances. The radical Islamic [bleep] in the Whitehouse has this country by the short hairs... and knows it.

We twiddle our thumbs.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
We still don't know the outcome of the Jack Yantis case. My faith in truth, justice and the American way is wavering.
Posted By: LostHighway Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
You remind of the "birthers" 8 years ago grasping at straws. Dry your twisted panties and deal with reality.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
...How the FBI can look at all this and not recommend prosecution of someone for something in EmailGate strains the imagination. Yet President Obama has clearly signaled that it’s all no big deal.

Director James Comey has a tough job before him when he takes the FBI’s official recommendations regarding EmailGate to Attorney General Lynch for action, probably sometime this summer.
Since Comey is now under a cloud over the FBI’s embarrassing mishandling of Omar Mateen, the Orlando jihadist mass murderer, perhaps his resignation over that matter would be welcome in the White House, which then could find a new director more willing to bend to Obama’s wishes.

Make no mistake, there are more than a few senior intelligence officials in Washington, DC, who are livid about Hillary Clinton’s willful disregard of clearly defined laws on the handling of classified information.
Her misconduct endangered sensitive intelligence programs—and lives.

Even if Comey is a sacrificial lamb here, there are high-ranking spies who are perfectly willing to leak the sordid details of EmailGate to the media if the president pulls a Dick Nixon and tries to subvert our Constitution to protect himself and his designated successor.

And in the unlikely event that nobody in our nation’s capital is willing to go public with exactly what Hillary Clinton did, it now seems the Russians may do so. It’s highly plausible that Russian intelligence services, among others, have many of Clinton’s emails, perhaps all of them, given how slipshod her security arrangements were."

John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he’s also been a Navy officer and a War College professor.
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Originally Posted by stillhunter73
Isn't that branch supposed to be autonomous?


Well, yes of course they are.............they just autonomously do exactly as The Muslim in the WH tells them to do.

And he has signaled that this email issue is"no big deal", so wishful thinking aside, it's all over but the shouting (or crying).

Hildebeast skates to POTUS as Trump continues to squander his capital & step on his (& ours, too) dick.

MM
Posted By: FieldGrade Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Comey's a hack just like the rest of the Washington elite...

Posted By: Barak Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
The word is that Julian Assange has several thousand more of Hillary's emails to release, and these are the ones whose content alone is incriminating, regardless of which server they were stored on.

We'll see. How much public legitimacy will the federal government have by the end of the year?
Posted By: FieldGrade Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Ain't nothing gonna happen to the lying bitch no matter who releases what....period....

Oh...and hell will freeze before Comey resigns...period...
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Constitutional crisis. That and the AG will never file anyway. Who would of thought that self centered, useless and greedy b!tch would ever get the nomination. Now that she has it sewed up to file on her now would cause a Constitutional crisis that would possibly keep Mr. Obama in the Whitehouse like many of us feared.

This is the moment he and his handlers has been waiting for so he can declare Marshall Law and suspend the Constitution. Which of course will cause a civil war. Comey is now between a rock and a hard place.

Yes, the security agencies all across America and especially those inside of the beltway are going to let out every little dirty secret Hillary violated but it won't do any good.

All we can hope for now is that Trump beats her in the General Election in November. (It's crazy. Donald Trump is our fall back position and possibly the only person in America to keep us out of a civil war) If she wins, we are all screwed. if Trump wins, I hope he follows through with the criminal charges he has promised. I hope Bill goes down with her.

kwg
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
I'm interested in what Wikileaks has to contribute. They're not as concerned about protecting the guilty as those in government are.
Posted By: Anaconda Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/19/16
Two possibilities;

#1 The call has been made, Obama’s orders. Hillary is the best chance to continue his legacy of liberal change.

#2 The Democrat leadership, DNC and Obama realize that if she is indicted now, before the official nomination, delegates will change their votes, and Bernie will be the candidate.
They don’t like Bernie anymore then the RNC likes the Donald. In their eyes, he is a trouble maker.

If she is indicted AFTER being nominated, they think they can shoehorn Joe Biden in. They like Joe, he will do what they tell him to do.
Posted By: benchman Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
Originally Posted by Anaconda
Two possibilities;

#1 The call has been made, Obama’s orders. Hillary is the best chance to continue his legacy of liberal change.

#2 The Democrat leadership, DNC and Obama realize that if she is indicted now, before the official nomination, delegates will change their votes, and Bernie will be the candidate.
They don’t like Bernie anymore then the RNC likes the Donald. In their eyes, he is a trouble maker.

If she is indicted AFTER being nominated, they think they can shoehorn Joe Biden in. They like Joe, he will do what they tell him to do.
You forgot the possibility of Trump winning. That might have her crapping her twisted panties....
Posted By: Redneck Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
Originally Posted by stillhunter73
Isn't that branch supposed to be autonomous?
I think THAT ship sailed...

Especially after reports that the FBI is to ignore mosques, do not investigate attendees or Syrian 'refugees'..

Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
there will be no hillary indictment. Comey is just one of the gang
Posted By: WayneShaw Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
And you can say the same for Trey Gowdy. He has forgotten what he was supposed to be doing.
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
Originally Posted by WayneShaw
And you can say the same for Trey Gowdy. He has forgotten what he was supposed to be doing.


Gowdy has not delivered on a single thing that he ran his mouth about...........not one single thing.

And his "tough" questioning of the Hildebeast under oath was bad joke.

He's all blow(probably blowing The Muslim) & no go.

MM
Posted By: 43Shooter Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
So far it looks like he's going to be as weak as Roberts.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
The FBI works 100% for the DOJ, so they are definitely NOT autonomous.

But, Comey is about as non-partisan a guy as you'll find in DC for his job. And if the DOJ passes up prosecuting not only Hillary but also Sidney Blumenthal, Hillary's aides and others from the Clinton Foundation because of Democratic CYA it could get very, very interesting. I don't think Comey would have any problem just quitting and going public.


As to Gowdy... don't write him off yet. It may be about timing, and post-convention or even October is the best timing.
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
I agree with your suspicions stillhunter. Something is rotten in Denmark.
The fix is in with Hillary, we shall have to see if this "highly ethical public servant" resigns. I bet he won't.
This is an election year...be expecting a "better than usual"...."October Surprise"...
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 06/20/16
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
This is an election year...be expecting a "better than usual"...."October Surprise"...


I never used to think this but Marshall Law?? Gawd I hope I'm (we) are wrong and it's a peaceful transition.

kwg
Posted By: Robert_White Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Bump
Posted By: benchman Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
He laid out a case that would have buttoned ANYBODY up in Leavenworth. THEN he made INTENT, basically something that is unprovable, the tipping point that would have made prosecution inevitable. The law makes no mention of intent at all, and criminal negligence certainly takes intent out of the picture. THEN, he basically said that another person who might do the same crime, may indeed be prosecuted. So, she's guilty, and I do not recommend prosecution for Hillary. Horsesheit. He is yet another traitor that I thought was on our side. The regular people on the right have few, if any, friends in DC. The list of those who have sold us out in a big way, is,getting very long.
Posted By: benchman Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
What's this about a Constitutional Crisis? The Constitutional Crisis is NOT prosecuting obvious criminal mishandling of government secrets. Prosecuting a candidate for POTUS for crimes committed, is a Constitutional Crisis? Why?
Posted By: Mathsr Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
I wouldn't think he could be bought, but something made him roll over and pizz on himself yesterday. So much for the FBI…
Posted By: milespatton Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Y'all do still remember that Hillary was found keeping files on FBI members back when Bill was in the White House. She has stuff on a lot of them and Comey seems to be one. Listening to His report yesterday, He enumerated lots of things that She should be recommended to go before a Grand Jury for, but then declined to recommend that. Tells me that She has something on Him or else He is not the straight arrow that everybody says. Both He and Loretta Lynch should apologize to the American People, during their resignation speech. miles
Posted By: arkypete Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
He joined this administration, he sold out! He's just another apparatchik in the system.

Jim
Posted By: bigwhoop Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
While Mrs. Clinton has escaped prosecution, what price will the American people pay for the sensitive information that is in possession of foreign governments?
Posted By: steve4102 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
While Mrs. Clinton has escaped prosecution, what price will the American people pay for the sensitive information that is in possession of foreign governments?


A better question is, How much did our enemies pay Hillary for total access to our State Secrets.
Posted By: Stray Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Gentlemen:

I think everybody's missing the obvious: Comey publically humiliated Clinton and went public with the bureau's investigative findings the only way he could: he seemingly closed his case for lack of prosecutive merit. He can't decline prosecution or take cases to the grand jury, only the USAO can. So, if he suspected that Lynch was going to stonewall the case, he wouldn't be able to comment on it and the MSM is only too happy to see the issue forgotten.

Comey sold out? Scorching Hillary publically, releasing all kinds of information that contradicts all of Hillary's public statements? Holy cow, I'm not sure how you get there. By going public, Comey also negated the need for any agent to risk his/her ass by unlawfully leaking details of the investigation and he torpedoed Hillary in the process.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Originally Posted by Stray
Gentlemen:

I think everybody's missing the obvious: Comey publically humiliated Clinton and went public with the bureau's investigative findings the only way he could: he seemingly closed his case for lack of prosecutive merit. He can't decline prosecution or take cases to the grand jury, only the USAO can. So, if he suspected that Lynch was going to stonewall the case, he wouldn't be able to comment on it and the MSM is only too happy to see the issue forgotten.

Comey sold out? Scorching Hillary publically, releasing all kinds of information that contradicts all of Hillary's public statements? Holy cow, I'm not sure how you get there. By going public, Comey also negated the need for any agent to risk his/her ass by unlawfully leaking details of the investigation and he torpedoed Hillary in the process.


Comey's statement may have humiliated Clinton, if anyone actually heard it.

The only ones that watched or read it are the few citizens in the country that care.

The vast majority of voters get their information from the Liberal Media and they have already spun it into a complete and total victory for Hillary.

Comey's words will not be part of the MSM narrative, only that she was exonerated.
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Originally Posted by Stray
Gentlemen:

I think everybody's missing the obvious: Comey publically humiliated Clinton and went public with the bureau's investigative findings the only way he could: he seemingly closed his case for lack of prosecutive merit. He can't decline prosecution or take cases to the grand jury, only the USAO can. So, if he suspected that Lynch was going to stonewall the case, he wouldn't be able to comment on it and the MSM is only too happy to see the issue forgotten.

Comey sold out? Scorching Hillary publically, releasing all kinds of information that contradicts all of Hillary's public statements? Holy cow, I'm not sure how you get there. By going public, Comey also negated the need for any agent to risk his/her ass by unlawfully leaking details of the investigation and he torpedoed Hillary in the process.


I hope you are right. As Krauthamer commented last night, it will be easy to create TV ads showing HC claiming innocence, then showing a clip of Comey directly showing how she lied to the public. If the GOP/Trump goes for the jugular, it will not be hard to make her look bad, even to people left of center.
Posted By: kingfisher Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
I do think Comey is lying. He said he did not talk with anyone about this matter before the presser. Obama and Hillary already knew no indictment was coming. Otherwise the fools would of never jumped on the same plan to do a speech together.

I am thinking Obama is neck deep in this. The only way to hide the truth on Obama is Hillary as president. He will do what ever he has to to make her president.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
My plate of crow tastes like chicken.
Comey laid out in great detail the thorough and complete job his investigators did in building this case.
Then he dropped the ball.
Posted By: RickyD Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
We still don't know the outcome of the Jack Yantis case. My faith in truth, justice and the American way is wavering.
Wavering? Mine waved bye bye long ago. We live in a regime, not a republic.
Posted By: kingfisher Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
I do think Comey is lying. He said he did not talk with anyone about this matter before the presser. Obama and Hillary already knew no indictment was coming. Otherwise the fools would of never jumped on the same plan to do a speech together.

I am thinking Obama is neck deep in this. The only way to hide the truth on Obama is Hillary as president. He will do what ever he has to to make her president.
Posted By: milespatton Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Quote
Then he dropped the ball.


You heard a different speech than I did. He did not drop the ball, He threw it away. miles
Posted By: steve4102 Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Originally Posted by kingfisher
I do think Comey is lying. He said he did not talk with anyone about this matter before the presser. Obama and Hillary already knew no indictment was coming. Otherwise the fools would of never jumped on the same plan to do a speech together.

I am thinking Obama is neck deep in this. The only way to hide the truth on Obama is Hillary as president. He will do what ever he has to to make her president.


I did not hear/read that.

What I read was that Comey did not talk to anyone about what was going to be in his "press" conference speech.

He didn't say he did not talk to his superiors about the case, only about the content of his speech.

He did not need to have them read it prior, as they already told him what to say.
Posted By: Stevil Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
The Republican got outplayed, Comeys just a Puppet, I dont get why more didnt see that way ??

Hell you had GWB get away with murder and you thought Hilary doing something not even Illegal and would get fisted for it .... no chance
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Originally Posted by Barak
The word is that Julian Assange has several thousand more of Hillary's emails to release, and these are the ones whose content alone is incriminating, regardless of which server they were stored on.

We'll see. How much public legitimacy will the federal government have by the end of the year?


"The word" from what source?
Posted By: RickyD Re: Has Comey sold out? - 07/06/16
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Barak
The word is that Julian Assange has several thousand more of Hillary's emails to release, and these are the ones whose content alone is incriminating, regardless of which server they were stored on.

We'll see. How much public legitimacy will the federal government have by the end of the year?


"The word" from what source?
When it comes to IT, Barak's got people.

Problem is, incriminating, but just not to her. Something most already knew, even though some of us were hoping, "maybe this time". I'm fairly certain she'll burn in Hell though. You don't get this many passes without having sold your soul to Satan.
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