...and anyone who thinks it doesn't have a lot to do with M.E. immigration can think again.

BTW Dow futures are down around 650 points to 17252 as I write.

my British counterpart, https://www.facebook.com/gw4ofq yeah he's a Brit hells angel but i've been reading his post for a while, these guys will be going after the hajjis next.

https://www.facebook.com/gw4ofq

"Sorry this content isn't available right now"

Facebook take it down ?

Myron

comes up for me.

They passed it alright. From what I hear it passed without much effort. I'm sure that Euro turd shot right out.

that puss Cameron hasn't come out of his casa yet...

hope mike don't get caught up in any bs over there.

Link?

If final a true buying opportunity.

its down ed, don't have any links but watching fox now.

I am up here with minimal TV, Green Acres earlier... Need to head to the library tomorrow and work Fidelity via desktop.

down around 700 points as of right now,

oil down below 50

Short term reaction.

yup

I'm fine Rog, slept out up in the moors in the Pennines last night, sitting by the roadside in Alford now. Official announcement maybe 10 min ago. Brexit won 52% to 48, 83% voter turnout. And immigration had a LOT to do with it.

The 'fire is an amazing place, we have out own on-site reporter.

the pound has fallen to its lowest point in 30 yrs, their also saying Cameron will probably step down.

Ya, 40 degrees and blowing mist up on the moors this morning, first light at 4am.

What else ya want to know?

Thank you for that Birdie...incidentally, do you remember watching 'American werewolf in London'?

Satellite, DISH net or the like.

Place I had before this one, before satellite became available, we had one TV station and two sometimes, no cable, and they would only deliver the paper thru the mail. Had to drive to town to get Sundays paper.
I got used to it, and except for having to go to a bar or someplace to see major sports events, it was much better once you got used to it.
If it was big enough like 9/11, that one station covered it.
Wish I still lived like that.
, the world just kept on, and I never missed, what I missed.

Cameron has announced he is going by October and Osborne will probably be next...

This is going to cause turbulent times in the short to medium term that's for sure and the ripples are going to be felt around the world...

On the bright side Pete...there are a couple of things I have been holding off buying on pommie ebay.

People forget there is often a cost to Freedom and the right to self determination, but at least this time around the cost will not be in blood! Democracy in action at it best... I have to say I have never been more proud to be British...

Hold off 'til the brown clown is out of office then we can all back you if the huns attempt standover tactics like last time.

EU was a bad idea to begin with, but they had to try it. Glad GB had enough sense to get out.

Wish the majority of the populace in US had good sense. The POS in the WH is proof they dont.

Good on the 52% !, but I believe there'll be blood before its all done.... all over Europe.

I wouldn't bet on that...........wait 'til you folks start throwing the hajji's out.

Hope you're successful & the result will be worth whatever it costs.

Eventually the EU is going to implode or change significantly if it's able to marginally hold together.

MM

Good news all around.

Especially for Trump and the people with enough sense to support him.





Dave

Best news I've heard in awhile that didn't involve a rabbit.

This schit cracked me up....

Wish the vote margin was bigger, but such is such.

83% turnout is impressive, no?

My bet is we will see the 52% to 48% in November right here in America. I'm hoping it's Trump with the 52% and not Hillary.

kwg

it is, but a 4% spread isn't

That's what I was thinking.

Germany needs to demand the same referendum be called. Time to take back the country.

Great news! I didn't think it was going to happen with the global movement being so strong. This is another stinger for Obama and probably hurts Clinton too and the timing was almost perfect for us.

Let's hope we can even imagine an 80% turnout with a parallel outcome in November.

I wonder if Trump's bringing the insanity of mass illegal immigration and unvetted Syrians up here the last year and to world wide consciousness helped to solidify and motivate the Brits who voted against the EU.

Visiting here these past two weeks I have been struck by the parallels to our own politics.

First off you have an almost equally divided populace, in the rural areas I saw 10 "leave" banners for every "remain" sign. I am told that support for "remain" was biggest among the young and in the big population centers, exactly paralleling our Red and Blue States.

Likewise anyone raising a concern about immigration and the prospect of half a million immigrant Turks over the next decade were labelled as "racist" by the "remain" crowd.

This was a very close vote that could have gone either way, I expect that much of the youth, predominantly "remain", failed to show up at the polls just as they do here. Also the "leave" crowd were all angry, and driven. A general sense that the "remains" were winning in the week prior to the vote prob'ly help the "leaves" clinch the win; they were angry and the "remains" got complacent.

Totally unlike here is the prospect of a surprisingly Socialist Scotland wanting to remain a member of the EU and already talking about independence.

Northern Ireland wanted to stay in too or so I'm told, not much chance of an independence movement from them tho.

Birdwatcher

It seems to me that the youth is as split as any faction you care to mention.

The youth is primarily responsible for the Nationalist movement that has swept through western culture over the past couple of years and especially the past year alone. Of course, you have the youth in America who have been drawn to the Bernie Sanders campaign, but there's a fairly heavy element of "anti establishment" contained even in that bunch. I suspect that a significant percentage of them will soon learn the proper manner to work towards self representation and turn their backs on that silly Socialist crap.

I enjoy watching this video from a couple of years ago.

I gotta differ, IME in the US most merely spout what the electronic media and social websites tell 'em.

The same seem to be true here. those people in that website? As rare as those doing affirmative action bake sales on college campuses today; they exist to be sure, but there ain't many.

Birdwatcher