http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/transgender-military.html?_r=0




I have no words

The military exists to kill people and blow stuff up.


Why do they want in anyway?

More Obama.

Damn, I don't care for Romney much, but he had that beat all to hell and back..

I wonder what PT Test standard they follow?

I bet there's a bunch of WWII submarine sailors spinning in their graves, wattery and regular.

This sheet is going to get some good people killed!

Just fu^ckin' stupid..........but I expect no less from The Muslim's administration.

I can only say that I hope we never need to fight a real war again, because if we do, we are in a pile of schitt for many different reasons.

MM

And of course they announce it right before Independence Day. Just another way to stick it down our throat.

In less than 20 years, a LOT of the real warriors will have had enough of this sheit and it will be liberal mecca, literally and figuratively.

We caught that! grins.

Fuggin sad this is.

I watched about five minutes of that ass wipe's speech....had to turn it off after the first vein blew....

Overhead Purse Swing: swing a purse loaded with 5-lbs of cosmetics for 5 minutes, not letting the purse drop below shoulder level.

Endurance Crying: be able to emote tears for 10 minutes upon seeing lingerie ruined after field hike.

Fools always win.

Yeah, they're a sick bunch.

WTF? we might as well just roll over and die! sure NOT the America I grew up in!

You know we are f ed up when we allow trannies in the military. They need a head doctor not a stint in the army.

All this social issue crap goes on while the enemy attacks us from coast to coast.

The [bleep] politician in the half White House was discussing climate change with 2 other [bleep] politicians at a Summit meeting today.

Where is the summit meeting to discuss the death of ISIS?

Stupid. Incredibly stupid. What is the benefit, for the military? These people have life ass backwards.

Why do you think Bammy has been replacing top military officials?

Yes men, one and all.

They join the armed services and then the VA will pay for the medical "change".

This will scare the hell out of the jahdists. What good, self respecting, allah fearing muzzie wants to be killed by a queer wearing eye liner and spike heels.

Obama said he would make fundamental change and some folks laughed. Not very funny now - and someone has to clean up his sloppy messes.

Unreal. You can't make this zhit up.

They will turn off thousands of quality people who would have volunteered, to accommodate a few misfits.

I am so glad my Navy time is long over.

We may have had queers in during my time, but they were not celebrated!

Exactly.

In another 10 years, at this rate, why WOULDN'T another country attack us?

That's been Hussein's objective from Day 1: undermine, weaken, and eventually destroy the U.S.

I still don't understand what the end game is, because it will be the destruction of those that want to destroy it to.

I guess they are too f*cking stupid to understand that.

They believe that they are too special and will be the new royalty; that while all animals are created equal, they are the animals created more equal than the others.

The end game is to make the US into a third world [bleep] like they all came from, so we are all equal.

I'm thinking that some are giving those creeps too much credit for a supposed final/end game.

Another sick slide of our Country headed down the tubes. We should all be so thankful we were born when we were; to have known what a great Country it once was, and the good people that made it so. God help us all...

They won't have to...we're gonna eat ourselves with debt in another five....

So glad my retirement is approved....

I have always wondered at the insanity of that dynamic. Rich New York JAPS and left wing Boston liberals and tenured prof's at MIT and Harvard will all be burned up alike in the mushroom cloud. They ought to leave the Spartans alone to do their job and keep the barbarians at bay. How else can they march in gay pride parades with a sense of safety?

Me and the wife is gonna move to a better place with less nuke targets and then dig a big hole.

And grooming standards. Housing accommodations. Can dudes wear make-up?

I saw this all coming with the removal of the "man" or "men" from official and many time honored titles.

The administration started this "pogrum" of what was left of the warrior class, the minute he took office. Sad to say he is not the only one. This emasculation started in 1991 and the end came in 1996 with the lifting of Title Ten restrictions on women in combat roles. Bush 43 held the line for a while, but after 09, it was a tidal wave. There are still plenty of warriors, but once they reach the 0-5/6 level, the allure of the pension supersedes conscience..

Marines, we want a few good men for an all men orgy. This will give a new meaning to SEMEN in Submarines

I don't think it's the pension. That's a given at that point.

Many see stars on their shoulders at the point and that changes them. They become "yes men" to virtually anything that they think will make them Admirals and Generals and become very risk adverse to the point of moral cowardice. Flag grade is a very exclusive club and members are picked by members and that results in significant group think and "golden child" paths to those grades. The out of the norm percent of service academy grads in the flags isn't because they are necessary better officers.

The slippery slope to our demise just got a lot steeper and the speed to the bottom just drastically increased.

God help the real soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines that have to serve with these vermin and be "led" by the morons that foisted this gay/tranny BS upon them.

Agreed.


They need to start letting Warrant's set policy.

I never realized how fortunate I was to be hugging a f'n tree with an RTO and not wondering if he had on women's underwear, and if so, why.

As a survivor of three DC tours (two Pentagon one Bureau), I saw said officers at that level, whose duty it was to speak truth to power (like when the females in combat issue was being vetted and later the Kara Hultgren incident), fail miserably and it became clear to me they too had stars in their eyes. Here's a name that was particularly egregious at this that I'm sure you'll recognize: Joe Sestak. I worked for him when he was an 0-5 and I was an 0-4 .

I'm glad I retired when I did. It has really gotten to the point of ridiculousness. Regardless of whether it is mental illness, in-born, social choice or whatever, it should be treated like being too fat, too short, too tall, etc. The amount of money and effort to accommodate a small number of people will never be recouped in any increase in quality recruits and military capability.

The warriors will drive them out front to clear minefields and make them carry extra ammo. Improvise, adapt, overcome.


mike r

No Mike...they will be elevated above to rank, it is they that will be setting the rule.

There is something you lot have not considered, the taxpayer will be footing the bill for lifelong hormone treatment, and probably the bill for any maladjustment as well.

By the way...did I mention that the taxpayer is you.

You rarely fail to mention what is wrong with a country in which you do not live. Your demeaning comments are based on such ignorance as to render them and you irrelevant. But keep on commenting here so as not to pollute sites in your own country.


mike r

You are incorrect Mike, we are travelling along right behind you, I watch what you lot are doing because we will be doing exactly the same in very short order.

Now if you lot went all conservative and started walking the straight and narrow my lot would joyfully and blindly walk in your footsteps...because apparently what pass' for leadership in this country are clowns that simply want to mimic your clowns.


I am going to vote in the federal election in about twelve hours...my choices are between a crooked clown that is a proven backstabbing piece of rubbish, and a crooked clown that is desperately attempting to get his union mates in on bankrupting us.

Sound familiar.

Oh, and our military are at the making favourable public noises about gays in the military stage.

added...and I forgot to mention that the brass are also doing their level best to outdo your brass in pc double-talk, take a look at the renaming marines thread and guess what...yes, our lot are deciding what words should be used so as to make our soldiers more unisex.

Hey Mike, the feds are calling for more airport security here, and I am betting the 'talk about fcked up' thread is just around the corner for some 'lucky' disabled lass here as well.

Everything you lot do...these turkeys willingly follow suit.

Oh hell Mike, why stop there.

Our clowns here are importing the lowest form of filth and making damn sure they are getting access to a damn sight more of the government tit than Australians are entitled to...public housing lists, nah only applies to Aussies, illegals bypass that, illegal doesn't feel like working...no sweat, automatic government tit time, illegal wants medical assistance...no problem mate we'll remove a few aussies from the list.

Illegal needs to start a business, f ck no mate we'll help...need a car, sh t yeah man...what f cking colour do you want.
Need your mosque fast tracked with public planning, F CK YEAH, we can do that!

Does your kid need dental on the public healthcare system on public expense account at the Royal Dental Hospital of Melbourne...fine if you aren't a taxpaying white fella, if you are then you can f ck off...but be sure to keep funding it with your tax dollars.


Our lot are EXACTLY the same as yours, just more amateurish.

Maybe we can have 'Q' Divisions!!

Of note: many of the military tactics and discipline we see today are the result of America's early Inspector General, during the Revolutionary war. He is credited with revolutionalizing military training, tactics, even the design of encampments, to avoid disease. He didn't speak English, but taught the American army how to use their bayonets for more than just a food skewer. Developed a trainging regiment that would train the rest f our army. Who knows, we might owe our freedom to this guy.

Google: Baron Von Steuben, and you can read more about his achievements and his lover Benjamin Walker.

The problem with gays, women, tranny's, etc, in the military, is not that the individual pervert may or may not do a good job. The problem is how they affect how OTHERS do their job. It is a problem that does not have to exist, and adversely affects unit cohesion. Including them is for the benefit of the individual, not to the benefit of the military. THAT is the problem.

http://navy.army.com/info/join/medical

Just a few of the highlights which could be extrapolated to exclude "them".

Hermaphroditism (state characterized by presence of both male and female sex
organs).

Psychiatric Conditions: Schizophrenia. (For the previously disqualifying disorders of: Major depression, recurrent; Bipolar disorder; Panic disorders; Sexual disorders; and Personality disorders, severe; recommend courtesy review first, but NRD can request MEPS exam. MEPS examiner usually will decline and instruct that courtesy review be requested first.

Undescended testicle unless surgically removed or confirmed to be absent; congenital or surgical bilateral absence.

Substance dependence.

Anabolic Steroid Use. Any applicant admitting steroid use within the previous 2 months is not enlistment eligible. The Chief Medical Officer at MEPS may consider waivers on an individual case basis after attaining internal medicine consultation or appropriate history. If a waiver is recommended, request must be forwarded to CHBUMED (Code 25) via CNRC (334). Send the following test results for waiver consideration: (1) microscopic urinalysis and (2) liver function study. Dosage strength of steroids used must also be documented. Use of steroids longer than 2 months before applying for enlistment is not medically disqualifying; however, any indication of high steroid dosage and/or chronic use must have internal medicine consultation to evaluate late or residual steroid effects.

And a few that I would be suspect of:

Addiction to drugs.

Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS), AIDS Related Complex (ARC),
HIV antibody, or history of any of the above.

Body mutilation, piercing, branding/intentional scarring that are excessive or
eccentric are disqualifying. Some examples are:
A split or forked tongue. This is a surgical procedure done to make the tongue
appear serpent-like;
foreign objects inserted under the skin that creates a design or pattern;
enlarged or stretched-out holes in the ears (other than a normal piercing) This
typically occurs when rings of a progressively larger size are inserted in the
ear lobe. After time the hole is expanded. Any occurrence of this type is
considered faddish and therefore disqualifying. All questionable cases will be
referred to the appropriate Region Commander for final disposition.
Gold veneers on the teeth or any type of dental ornamentation are also
disqualifying.
branding/intentional scarring that appears on the neck, face or scalp is
disqualifying. All brandings/scarring that are offensive in nature, excessive or
eccentric are also disqualifying. All questionable cases will be referred to the
appropriate Region Commander for disposition.

Cirrhosis.

Idiocy (extreme mental deficiency).

Imbecility (feebleness of mind).

Neurosyphilis of any form (syphilis of central nervous system).

Silastic Implants (except breast).

Frederick Gotthold Enslin was the focus of one of three possible cases of sodomy documented in the Continental Army under General George Washington.[1] The case began with a charge against an ensign for slander against another soldier. At Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, in February 1778, Ensign Anthony Maxwell was brought before a court-martial charged with "propagating a scandalous report prejudicial to the character of Lieut. Enslin." The Ensign was ultimately acquitted of the charge.[1]

In March 1778, Lieut. Enslin was brought to trial before a court-martial. According to General Washington's report: "...Lieutt. Enslin of Colo. Malcolm's Regiment tried for attempting to commit sodomy ..." Washington's secretary continues to describe the results of the trial: "His Excellency the Commander in Chief approves the sentence and with Abhorrence & Detestation of such Infamous Crimes orders Lieut. Enslin to be drummed out of Camp tomorrow morning...."[2]

The diary of Lieut. James McMichael records the sentence being carried out on 15 March 1778: "March 15. — I this morning proceeded to the grand parade, where I was a spectator to the drumming out of Lieut. Enslin of Col. Malcom's regiment. He was first drum'd from right to left of the parade, thence to the left wing of the army; from that to the centre, and lastly transported over the Schuylkill with orders never to be seen in Camp in the future. This shocking scene was performed by all the drums and fifes in the army— the coat of the delinquent was turned wrong side out."[3]

Wonder how much fraggin will be going on in combat zones...

Here's a classic from a Bygone Age,

They must have known this day would come...

Falling fairies from the sky;
I broke a nail, oh I could cry!
Don't you like how my tush sways?
We are the HoMos of the Queen Berets!
Bill Clinton's words upon our ears,
"You guys have rights, be proud you're queers!"
I once was scared, now I'm Okay,
Cause I'm a HoMo in the Queen Berets.
Put silver earclips on our nuts;
We love the pain, now spank our butts!
The way you walk is awfully cute;
I sure would love to pack your chute!
Back at home, a young wife waits,
Her Queen Beret just won't go straight;
For his team he stays undressed,
Spreads his legs, and lies on his chest.
This Army stuff is really slick;
Free clothes, bunk beds, and lots of dicks.
When we retire, we'll still get paid;
We thank you, Obama, from the Queen Berets!