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Posted By: Stormin_Norman Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
socialism, we will get it right this time grin.


"Traveling through the country this month I saw endless queues of people trying to buy food - any food - at supermarkets and other government-run shops.

I was stopped at a roadblock in the middle of the countryside by people who said they had eaten nothing but mangoes for three days.

I saw the hopeless expression of a mother, who had been eating so little that she was no longer able to breastfeed her baby.

I met a women affectionately known as la gorda - "the fat one" - whose protruding cheekbones indicated just how much weight she had lost in the last year.

I felt sympathy for all these people, but it was my family who really brought it home to me.

My brother told me all his trousers were now too big. My father - never one to grumble - let slip that things were "really tough". My mother, meanwhile, confessed that sometimes she only eats once a day. They all live in different parts of Venezuela, but none of them is getting enough to eat. It's a nationwide problem.
Image caption The roadblock erected by people who have been surviving on mangoes

A study by three of the country's main universities indicates that 90% of Venezuelans are eating less than they did last year and that "extreme poverty" has jumped by 53% since 2014.

There are a number of causes - shortages of basic goods, bad management, a host of speculators and hoarders, and a severe drop in the country's oil income.

Plus, of course, the highest inflation rate in the world.

The country's official inflation rate was 180% in December, the last time a figure was made public, but the IMF estimates it will be above 700% by the end of the year.
Image copyright Getty Images
Image caption Inflation obliges Venezuelans to carry fistfuls of banknotes

In an attempt to stop speculators and hoarders, the government years ago fixed the price of many basic goods, such as flour, chicken, or bread. But Venezuelans can only buy the goods at these fixed prices once a week, depending on the final digit of the number on their national identity card. If it's 0 or 1, for example, then you're allowed to buy on Mondays. For 2 or 3, it's Tuesdays, and so on.

Because there is a risk of the goods running out, people often arrive at supermarkets in the early hours of the morning, or even earlier. At 6am one morning in Caracas, I met a man who had already been in the queue for three hours. It was pouring with rain, and he didn't have an umbrella.

"I'm hoping to get rice, but sometimes I've queued and then been unable to buy anything because the rice runs out before I get in," he said.

Even if they are lucky, shoppers are only allowed a restricted amount of items per day. Those who can't get enough have to wait a full week until their turn comes round again - the tills will automatically reject anyone's shopping if they arrive on the wrong day ............"



http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36913991
When your entire economy is based upon a single product-Thick Oil and that product tanks your in trouble. Venezuela has never been a safe place for investment and is a wonderful example of how socialism can fail....Feel the Burn yet?
Posted By: rem141r Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
lack of food will cut down on their TP requirement. it will all work out in the end. they just need to get used to eating less. good news is they can get diesel for like 3 cents a gallon.
They also ordered all able bodied people to work on the farms for a period of 60-120 days to increase food production.

Only the "political elite" part of Caracas has electricity 7x24, and I'll bet they have plenty of food also. Socialism just a way to control a population while enriching the elite. I think the people of Venezuela might be realizing there mistake, I predict a change of guard soon.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
the hell with the Venezuelans. They voted in these commie fuggers, and they can life with it.
I run into a bunch of the 'elite' ones in Miami. Snotty, full of themselves, obnoxious.
Posted By: djs Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
With a socialist government and an economy almost totally dependent on oil, it is no wonder that the economy collapsed when oil prices collapsed.
Posted By: oldtrapper Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
When Chavez took power they were dancing in the streets like democrats that just nominated hiLIARy. I feel sorry for the little kids, only.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
My GAS factor DGAF. Actions have consequences.
Posted By: poboy Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
As a founding member of opec, where are their brethren?
Posted By: NVhntr Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
Socialism sounds real good when they vote for it. Free s h i t. But then you have to live with the consequences.

Hard to work up much sympathy.
That is a bit of a reach don't ya think? Kinda like Trumps claim that 1,000's and 1,000's of Muslims were dancing in the New Jersey streets after 9/11?
Posted By: Gus Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
there's nothin' quite like free troops (draftee types) in a war congealed into action by the mic (military industrial complex).

venezeula got sucked under by the allure of free money from the oil pumped from under the earth.

they're ahead of the game. it's likely to happen to many more people from other countries. i feel sorry for the rank & file.
Posted By: NDsnowman Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
Do you know what socialists used to light their homes before candles? Light bulbs!
Posted By: philgood80 Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
Surely New Jersey only has a dozen or so museums. They aren't that sophisticated are they to have 1000s?
Posted By: DakotaDeer Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
Each man is a museum unto himself. wink
Posted By: hanco Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
You can bet bunches of them are headed our way.
Posted By: Gus Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
Originally Posted by NDsnowman
Do you know what socialists used to light their homes before candles? Light bulbs!


lol. ve humans were originally designed to be capitalists. no doubt.

when the socialists came along we swayed off the road, and fell by the way side.
Posted By: rem141r Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
the only good museum is a dead museum
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
Venezuela has experienced the worst that Capitalism has to offer. They're now experiencing the worst that Socialism has to offer.
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
And Chavez's daughter is the wealthiest person in Venezuela. Odd coincidence, don't you think?

George Orwell spelled out how socialism handles inequality in his book "Animal Farm" many years ago:

'All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others."
This just might be us in a few years if Hillary is elected....The Democrats will be Dancing in the streets come Nov 4 ....But I will not!!!! But I will have to suffer there actions....So f##k all Democrats including the ones in my own family...They are Now my enemies...Last Christmas I sat at the same table with these Liberal pieces of chit. Never again. mad
Posted By: Oldelkhunter Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
SO they are going to send city folk out to the farms to do labor for up to a 60 day period. They need to import some workers we will gladly send them a specific jerkoff from Alaska, AUstralia and any other Hillary sympathizers that post here.

PS they don't have to give them back either
Posted By: Gus Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/29/16
when the time comes, and it is coming sooner or later, the humans in the countryside combined with refugees from the mega-cities will be looking for a way to survive one more day. it's a givene.

just how many can be re-indoctrinated in the countryside?
Originally Posted by Gus


just how many can be re-indoctrinated in the countryside?


Depends on how big of hole you dig.
Posted By: hanco Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
Why don't we just put them all in welfare. We have plenty of money?
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Socialism sounds real good when they vote for it. Free s h i t. But then you have to live with the consequences.

Hard to work up much sympathy.
Yep, the profit motive is the engine of productivity. Take that out of the equation, and productivity stops, thus no food, no TP, etc.. Just a law of economics. Can't get around it.
Posted By: Gus Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Socialism sounds real good when they vote for it. Free s h i t. But then you have to live with the consequences.

Hard to work up much sympathy.
Yep, the profit motive is the engine of productivity. Take that out of the equation, and productivity stops, thus no food, no TP, etc.. Just a law of economics. Can't get around it.


i agree totally, no argument. what we need is a better quality human. but that seems to be a pipe dream.
Posted By: jimy Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
We are closer to this mess than many believe, look what happened after Katrina, when the government has to tell people that they need at least 3-5 days of food in you home, well we have some dumb fu~ck breeding out there.
Posted By: Tracks Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
That is a bit of a reach don't ya think? Kinda like Trumps claim that 1,000's and 1,000's of Muslims were dancing in the New Jersey streets after 9/11?

You're quite a character.
When you can't troll, you agitate, when you can't agitate you lie. Must be a miserable life if this is your entertainment.
Posted By: Oldelkhunter Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
When your entire economy is based upon a single product-Thick Oil and that product tanks your in trouble. Venezuela has never been a safe place for investment and is a wonderful example of how socialism can fail....Feel the Burn yet?


Voting in a POS like Chavez and then electing Maduro in a rigged election could not possibly have contributed to this could it ? They have been in a downward spiral for at least 30 years.
Posted By: 6mm250 Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
If Venezuela needs farm workers so bad why don't we help 'em out & send 'em a schitload of messicans ? we got plenty


Mike
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
Don't you take the Alaska state money each year, that comes from oil?

You hipacrate ass!
Posted By: milespatton Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
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When Chavez took power they were dancing in the streets like democrats that just nominated hiLIARy.


I seem to remember a lot of happy people in the US. Mostly Actors and Actresses, but other socialist among us too. Chavez t-shirts and all that crap all over the TV. miles
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
The only difference between venazuela and the US is we have money printing presses and the population is armed.
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/30/16
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
the hell with the Venezuelans. They voted in these commie fuggers, and they can life with it.
I run into a bunch of the 'elite' ones in Miami. Snotty, full of themselves, obnoxious.


Mirroring my experience. Have to deal with them a LOT at work. Of all the south Americans, they are by far the biggest schmucks as a group.

To put it in the words of a very pleasant, soft spoken Portuguese man I met at work whose demeanor changed after watching me deal with one azzhat Venezuelan:

"They think our sole purpose in life is but to serve them".

Phugg em.
Posted By: arkypete Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/31/16
Why not allow these people to enjoy the consequences of their action. Let these people serve as a example of what the consequences of socialism is for the rest of the world.

Jim
Posted By: Oldelkhunter Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/31/16
Originally Posted by arkypete
Why not allow these people to enjoy the consequences of their action. Let these people serve as a example of what the consequences of socialism is for the rest of the world.

Jim


It happened in the USSR,China,Cuba,Venezuela,Vietnam,Cambodia ,North Korea but until it happens here they will never know the consequences.
Posted By: rem141r Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/31/16
maybe sean penn will head down there and help them since he loved chavez so much. i'm sure he would be warmly received.
Originally Posted by arkypete
Why not allow these people to enjoy the consequences of their action. Let these people serve as a example of what the consequences of socialism is for the rest of the world.

Jim
This.
Posted By: ihookem Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/31/16
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by arkypete
Why not allow these people to enjoy the consequences of their action. Let these people serve as a example of what the consequences of socialism is for the rest of the world.

Jim


It happened in the USSR,China,Cuba,Venezuela,Vietnam,Cambodia ,North Korea but until it happens here they will never know the consequences.


And then, , , it's too late.
Posted By: Gregoriev Re: Starving in Venezuela - 07/31/16
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." ~Winston Churchill
Posted By: hanco Re: Starving in Venezuela - 08/01/16
Lots of misery down there, not much food.
Posted By: conrad101st Re: Starving in Venezuela - 08/01/16
I went there in 1988 and it was a great trip for a gringo.
Hotel and food were dirt cheap. Stayed at the Hilton and ate steak every night. Polar beer was tasty. Used a lot of concrete in their architecture and looked very sleek and modern. Walked all over and felt safe.

Socialism and dictators obviously don't work.
Posted By: Gus Re: Starving in Venezuela - 08/01/16
it is interesting that a country will shift into socialism, or highly socialistic arrangements.

it's like the people grown dis-enchanted or something and they want something better. they try socialism and the system goes further down the crapper.

we see it happening is this country even now.
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