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It used to be called "acting on emotion instead of logic".
Now it's revealed as a deliberate political tactic.

God help this country from the part of the population dumb enough to believe the Democrat horse-schitt.

Whoda thunk it?
Yep
These feel-good wealth transfers attract more wetbacks and cause worse treatment of all minimum wage employees.
Any thinking person understands that artificially raising the cost of labor increases costs and decreases hours and/or number of employees. But it puts more people onto government dependence.
The problem is liberals study things like liberal arts instead of business or math.

It's a simple math problem. If I have 5 employees making 9.96/hour and I'm forced to give them a 1.18/raise, I can do one of 2 things: 1) Pass the cost on to the customer, or 2) lay off my poorest performing employee and either give the remaining four a 1.18/hour raise and come out ahead at the end of the month, or, give the remaining four a 1.48/hour raise and break even.
Originally Posted by rlott
The problem is liberals study things like liberal arts instead of business or math.

It's a simple math problem. If I have 5 employees making 9.96/hour and I'm forced to give them a 1.18/raise, I can do one of 2 things: 1) Pass the cost on to the customer, or 2) lay off my poorest performing employee and either give the remaining four a 1.18/hour raise and come out ahead at the end of the month, or, give the remaining four a 1.48/hour raise and break even.

Or you hire illegals and abuse the hell out of them and everyone else.
And yet nobody is brave enough to finger the real reason beyond everything the Democrats do:


You can't force socialism on a successful economy.
yes, liberals really ARE that stupid
the Govt will make it mandatory that minimum wage workers must make up a certain percentage.

more govt control! get used to it!

Originally Posted by m_stevenson


God help this country from the part of the population dumb enough to believe the Democrat horse-schitt.



That number is hovering right around the 50% mark right now.........and growing.

Originally Posted by RockyRaab


You can't force socialism on a successful economy.


You can if enough of the voters are getting enough free schitt to keep voting themselves more largess from the public coffers........which is about where we are today.

You guys just don't seem to understand that we conservatives are now, more or less, a minority of the voting public.

November is our last chance to keep from going over the edge right now...........and even that is a big ????????

MM
What's being left out is how many man-hours it takes to do the job. Some jobs can't be done much faster by higher paid employees. If you lay off 2 of 5 workers because of the required higher paid, the remaining 3 can't do the job because it takes 5 to do it. The employer's only option is to pass the higher costs on to his customers and if that costs him customers, he's up a creek.
It always amazes me how many people have no idea at all that the government can't simply create 'wealth' by printing more money. Or that fining a big company $200 million won't come out of customer's pockets one way or another.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
And yet nobody is brave enough to finger the real reason beyond everything the Democrats do:


The raise to $15 was highly effective. The real reason is it bought votes for the Democratic Socialist Peoples Workers party for several elections which is, after all, their real reason.
so we're approaching the point that economics be damned? does that about describe it?
More is not better!!
Originally Posted by rlott
The problem is liberals study things like liberal arts instead of business or math.

It's a simple math problem. If I have 5 employees making 9.96/hour and I'm forced to give them a 1.18/raise, I can do one of 2 things: 1) Pass the cost on to the customer, or 2) lay off my poorest performing employee and either give the remaining four a 1.18/hour raise and come out ahead at the end of the month, or, give the remaining four a 1.48/hour raise and break even.


There's a problem with option 1. Consumer demand for fast food is very price elastic. It doesn't take much of a price increase in low end restaurants before customers choose not to eat at your location. Your only option is number 2, and then it become a question of how much additional you need to pay them for your requested increase in productivity, and 3) what additional capital improvements are available that will provide a better ROI than your now more expensive labor.
Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
And yet nobody is brave enough to finger the real reason beyond everything the Democrats do:


The raise to $15 was highly effective. The real reason is it bought votes for the Democratic Socialist Peoples Workers party for several elections which is, after all, their real reason.


And it buys those votes twice. Once when they THINK they are getting a raise, and again when they start collection welfare.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
And yet nobody is brave enough to finger the real reason beyond everything the Democrats do:


The raise to $15 was highly effective. The real reason is it bought votes for the Democratic Socialist Peoples Workers party for several elections which is, after all, their real reason.


And it buys those votes twice. Once when they THINK they are getting a raise, and again when they start collection welfare.



Yup, it has double potential to create more dem voters. Dependency is key.
Watched a state labor inspector checking Licenses, Workman's comp in a subdivision with several new houses being built. Funny thing was, He bypassed the houses with Mexican music playing on the jobsite radios. He stopped at all the houses with White guys working. How it works is there is one Mexican American with the subcontract, Paint-Drywall-Siding. The contractor/developer writes a check to this subcontractor as if he is doing all the work. The subcontractor then has 2-3 illegals working for cash. The state inspector looks the other way because his democrat masters will destroy his job if he actually do's it. Us poor slob American have to follow every rule. If we do not we get hammered by the state.
Liberals never learn..
There are already reports from Seattle concerning the fact that people covered by the wage increases are asking their employers to work them less hours, in order to keep them from losing their benefits, i.e. welfare, TANF, food stamps, etc.
Originally Posted by deltakid
There are already reports from Seattle concerning the fact that people covered by the wage increases are asking their employers to work them less hours, in order to keep them from losing their benefits, i.e. welfare, TANF, food stamps, etc.


There is the problem. They can work for $9 an hour and still get food stamps, free medical, a tax return exceeding what they paid in, and a free phone.

Until major entitlement reform, the white workers and producers will continue to take it in the shorts while the corporations and the unskilled workers come out as the big winners.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
What's being left out is how many man-hours it takes to do the job. Some jobs can't be done much faster by higher paid employees. If you lay off 2 of 5 workers because of the required higher paid, the remaining 3 can't do the job because it takes 5 to do it. The employer's only option is to pass the higher costs on to his customers and if that costs him customers, he's up a creek.


The other option is to automate, and lay off all the employees.
Originally Posted by Gus
so we're approaching the point that economics be damned? does that about describe it?


"Economics," as defined by Democrats, comes to them from their Greatest Heroes, Karl Marx, V.I. Lenin, Mao tse Tung, and Fidel Castro.... all the greatest economic scholars ever known.

Obama and Hillary know what's best, as their mentors are the above "leaders."

L.W.

Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
What's being left out is how many man-hours it takes to do the job. Some jobs can't be done much faster by higher paid employees. If you lay off 2 of 5 workers because of the required higher paid, the remaining 3 can't do the job because it takes 5 to do it. The employer's only option is to pass the higher costs on to his customers and if that costs him customers, he's up a creek.


The other option is to automate, and lay off all the employees.


http://www.businessinsider.com/self-service-kiosks-are-replacing-workers-2016-5
Originally Posted by Gus
so we're approaching the point that economics be damned? does that about describe it?


The country passed that point before any of us were born.
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