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My cousin sent this article to me. I found it very interesting. I hope some of the Never Trumpers take the time to read it and think.

Donald Trump and The Pharisees

Donald Trump and The Pharisees

When you finally come to the conclusion there is a God, you’re likely to try to attempt to please Him.
And this is where it can get dangerous. You might be on your way to the sanctuary for worship, and you see a man curled up by the side of the road, bloody and beaten by robbers. Something tells you the man needs your help (that’s God talking to you), but you are wearing your Sunday best, and you’re not trained as a first responder, and you’ve been given the honor of opening today’s meeting in prayer, and, besides, this guy is probably a drug addict and you have little children you’re responsible for — so you hurry on to church and you prove that you have the spirit of the Pharisee — that weird inclination to ignore what Jesus called “the weightier matters of the law.”

The #NeverTrump movement is defined by this Pharisee spirit. It is chock full of it. Texas pastor Max Lucado is a great example. Max leads what he calls a “red state” church, but Max has a maxim: ”I don’t want anybody to know how I vote.” Max does this to make sure the Democratic voters in his church, the ones who support abortion on demand, Islamo-pandering, and class warfare are not made to feel uncomfortable. However, Max recently broke his neutrality pledge when Donald Trump called a bimbo a bimbo. According to Max:

I would not have said anything about Mr. Trump, never — I would never have said anything if he didn’t call himself a Christian. It’d be none of my business whatsoever to make any comments about his language, his vulgarities, his slander of people, but I was deeply troubled … that here’s a man who holds up a Bible one day, and calls a lady “bimbo” the next.

Think on that for a moment. Max closes his eyes to another “Christian,” Barack Obama, who stands foursquare for the slaughter of millions of unborn babies, at your expense, but Donald Trump called a lady a “bimbo?” Intolerable! Unthinkable! Impolite! Time to engage the Pharisee warp engines.

Donald is a blunt customer, but it looks like he does have a heart. When asked about abortion, Trump related a story close to home. He said that he knew of a pregnancy that was going to be terminated. ”That child today,” Donald continued, ”is a total superstar. It is a great great child.”

When Donald Trump picked the most pro-life running mate in history to be his partner in the quest for the presidency, Governor Mike Pence, he backed up that claim. He made good on his conversion to the life issue, and, in so doing, he proved to be the opposite of the Pharisee spirit — a man who cares about the “weightier matters of the law.” Max Lucado may value political fence-sitting in church, a pleasant smile, and a polite manners, but Donald Trump risked the wrath of a baby-killing culture, and even repudiated his own past, by embracing the politics of life.

Who is the real Christian here? The one who acts like it, or the one who puts on a polite show of neutrality?

Another of my Pharisee correspondents on Facebook wrote this about Donald Trump:

“If you are unconvinced that a foul mouthed, arrogant, strip club and casino owning, philanderer who boasts about being able to shoot people in the streets without losing voters, is immoral then I’m not really sure where to go with this conversation.”

Yet another invoked scripture in his rejection of Trump:

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”

I’ve been around church people all of my life. Even at Stanford, where humanism was the prevailing denomination, I can tell you the religious spirit — whether it is lamenting “gambling” or shaming someone who didn’t recycle his bottle of Pepsi — brings out the worst side of human nature, and it brings ignorance into high relief.

Let’s take a few of these, one by one, starting with wagering. The Bible, folks, doesn’t say much about gambling. Our pious ancestors in New England used lotteries to build churches. If your only objection to Donald Trump rests in casino ownership, you really would feel right at home with the Christ-killing band because you have imbibed legalism as doctrine.

Foul mouthed? I’m guessing you haven’t read scripture with any real scrutiny, because when God gets angry, He doesn’t hold back. His prophets call harlots harlots. His Son called religious hypocrites, “white washed tombs full of dead men’s bones.” “Vipers.” ”Sons of the Devil.” But even if you value a polite tongue, and that’s your virtue, don’t begin comparing that virtue to being courageous in the face of Islamic jihad. I will take a foul mouth defender of life over a church-sitting coward any day.

Arrogant? I always get a kick out of people who spend all day in some corner of the bureaucracy, who never need to make a sale, who never need to appear confident, because they get paid every day, whether they do anything useful or not. Donald has to convince people a skyscraper is worth building, folks. You are mistaking confidence, faith even, for arrogance, because you’ve never had to really make a sale. Try it sometime, and see if you can do it without boosting your confidence and risking looking a little “arrogant.”

Strip clubs and philandering. I won’t make any defense for that, but I would ask you to look to yourselves. Do you buy television cable services from a company that also offers pornography? Do you stay in hotels with adult content on their television screens? Is your stock portfolio scrubbed clean of anyone who profits from soft porn? What’s in your wallet and where are you spending it? The press has been watching Donald pretty closely now for 18 months. Have you seen any philandering stories? I haven’t.

And I would ask you to look to your Bibles again. God uses some pretty gritty characters to work His glorious and sovereign will. Jacob was a trickster who lied to his father. Abraham had wives and concubines. Samson kept a harlot. Solomon had hundreds of concubines. Peter betrayed Christ. Saul of Tarsus, was a murderous wretch.

You actually know all about that, but when you see a flawed man, in the flesh, you act just like a stoning torch mob, and you won’t even admit it.

Jesus knew all about this dismissive, self-righteous character of ours. He knew our nature. He knew there’s a Pharisee spirit in us that takes pride in being faithful to our wives, even as our horn-dog spirit wrestles with Donald Trump’s beauty pageants. Are we righteous, or just jealous? When the harlot adorns Jesus’ feet with precious ointment, are we accusing or praising God for forgiveness?

Donald Trump is more righteous than you think. He wants to protect you from Islamic zealots. He wants to protect your right to defend your families with firearms. He even wants to exempt your pulpits from IRS tyranny. He wants to end the death tax, so you can pass on your farms and your family business to your children. He wants to lower your taxes. He wants to protect the lives of unborn children and appoint Constitutional judges.

But you and Max Lucado don’t like his style.

Your priorities are all mixed up, just like the people who killed Christ.



God wants us to vote Trump. I know that now.

Thank you.
I thought God was pulling for ol' Ted.......did he change his mind? Wouldn't God be able to "rig" the outcome?

Does anyone know for sure?
Originally Posted by Calhoun
God wants us to vote Trump. I know that now.

LOL
Originally Posted by Calhoun
God wants us to vote Trump. I know that now.

Thank you.


He also wants you to play in traffic.
Hillary loves muslims and hates guns.

Trump doesn't care for muslims and likes guns.

I abhor muslims and love guns.

Makes my voting choice easy.
Originally Posted by NH K9
I thought God was pulling for ol' Ted.......did he change his mind? Wouldn't God be able to "rig" the outcome?

Does anyone know for sure?


Yeah...... I know for sure. God let the voters choose, and - right or wrong - they chose Trump.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Hillary loves muslims and hates guns.

Trump doesn't care for muslims and likes guns.

I abhor muslims and love guns.

Makes my voting choice easy.


Some cannot, or will not 'get it'.
Probably should have thrown a "smiley" thing up there.......
Posted By: RWE Re: Donald Trump and The Pharisees - 08/15/16
If we just elect Trump, he will be available to be made fun of for at least FOUR YEARS!

Otherwise, he'll only be a passing quip like Ross Perot - leaving us with a Clinton.

Think about it....
At least we now have a candidate more than capable of defeating Clinton.

Wouldn't have had that chance with the other 16.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed that the Democrats and RINOs are the modern Scribes & Pharisees.

Said much better than I could. But let me add to it how the modern Scribes & Pharisees create moral hazards and then claim to be heroes trying to solve those manufactured problems. Like replacing charity with welfare and screwing the people with uncontrolled, excessive immigration.
Originally Posted by RWE
If we just elect Trump, he will be available to be made fun of for at least FOUR YEARS!

Otherwise, he'll only be a passing quip like Ross Perot - leaving us with a Clinton.

Think about it....

No bitch and get to make fun of Trump- double bonus grin
Originally Posted by isaac
At least we now have a candidate more than capable of defeating Clinton.

Wouldn't have had that chance with the other 16.

If you're innocent of a crime and your lawyer can't get you acquitted, how is a guy ever sure that he wouldn't have been better off with a different lawyer?

Just curious, came to mind for some reason.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by isaac
At least we now have a candidate more than capable of defeating Clinton.

Wouldn't have had that chance with the other 16.

If you're innocent of a crime and your lawyer can't get you acquitted, how is a guy ever sure that he wouldn't have been better off with a different lawyer?

Just curious, came to mind for some reason.

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I'm not surprised a nonsensical analogy came to mind for you.

Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by isaac
At least we now have a candidate more than capable of defeating Clinton.

Wouldn't have had that chance with the other 16.

If you're innocent of a crime and your lawyer can't get you acquitted, how is a guy ever sure that he wouldn't have been better off with a different lawyer?

Just curious, came to mind for some reason.
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I'm not surprised a nonsensical analogy came to mind for you.
I mean, for a poor schmuck who got hit with 8 years to life even after trying out 3 different criminal defense firms, and it's looking more and more every day that it's going to be a life sentence, how does he know whether he made the right choice or if this is all of his own making in choosing idiots?
Who would be the actual idiot, aside from yourself?
Originally Posted by NH K9
I thought God was pulling for ol' Ted.......did he change his mind? Wouldn't God be able to "rig" the outcome?

Does anyone know for sure?


Let's wait and see what comes from the hacked Soros and DNC emails before we rule God out.
Originally Posted by isaac
Who would be the actual idiot, aside from yourself?

Well, the 1st lawyer was let go because he just wasn't committed to an all out defense of the accused. The 2nd lawyer brought some idiot bimbo that kept making the defense look bad during arguments by distracting the court. The 3rd guy was GREAT when talking, but got every single fact wrong about the case and didn't know anything the facts - would frequently contradict himself 2 or 3 or 4 times in rapid succession. Assured the client that the specific facts weren't important to the jury, it was all about making them believe he was the lawyer telling the truth.

Now the schmuck is toast.

Should he have looked for another lawyer? The 3rd one assured him that he was the best and only one with a chance of getting him acquitted.
Do you ever actually think things through before you post them or do you just throw it all out there hoping you'll touch down somewhere?

You're becoming cartoonish.
Originally Posted by isaac
Do you ever actually think things through before you post them or do you just throw it all out there hoping you'll touch down somewhere?

You're becoming cartoonish.

You need to take up fishing and relax. Gonna hit the lake tonight, if it's too muddy from the downpour last week I'll just do some plinking and weed trimming.

Life is good for now. Enjoy it.
I like Max Lucado. He's far from a Pharisee.

So it comes as no surprise the author doesn't even know who killed Christ. He did, you did, and so did I.

Those who are conservative may vote for Trump but many will vote against Hillary. I will vote against Hillary, hoping one day I may be able to vote for a conservative. And whoever that may be, they killed Christ, too.
You'd think I'd remember that........
Originally Posted by Calhoun
God wants us to vote Trump. I know that now.

Thank you.



Nope that was "Lyin' Ted"


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Originally Posted by RickyD
I like Max Lucado. He's far from a Pharisee.

So it comes as no surprise the author doesn't even know who killed Christ. He did, you did, and so did I.

Those who are conservative may vote for Trump but many will vote against Hillary. I will vote against Hillary, hoping one day I may be able to vote for a conservative. And whoever that may be, they killed Christ, too.


In 8 years you will be able to vote for a conservative. His name is Mike Pence. The test is Donald Trump. Don't fail the test.

kwg
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Yeah...... I know for sure. God let the voters choose, and - right or wrong - they chose Trump.


Gene, most people don't understand that God is big on letting people choose. He even lets you choose Heaven or Hell. He could have made you with no choice, but He did not. miles
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The test is Donald Trump. Don't fail the test.
Not my test to pass. That one is Trumps and right now he needs lots of tutoring, but all too often he to reverts back to his old ways. Today was a good day for him, relatively speaking, but he/we can't afford another single bad one. He's had far to many of those already and given far too much ammo to the enemy. He needs to set up camp in battle ground states and stay on topic. Nothing more, nothing less. Then we all need to pray. Lots.
Originally Posted by RickyD
I like Max Lucado. He's far from a Pharisee.

So it comes as no surprise the author doesn't even know who killed Christ. He did, you did, and so did I.

Those who are conservative may vote for Trump but many will vote against Hillary. I will vote against Hillary, hoping one day I may be able to vote for a conservative. And whoever that may be, they killed Christ, too.


Whether he is a Pharisee or not is a matter of opinion. I agree with the writer of the article. Lucado would condemn obedience in a heart beat from a holier than thou position.
Originally Posted by RickyD
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The test is Donald Trump. Don't fail the test.
Not my test to pass. That one is Trumps and right now he needs lots of tutoring, but all too often he to reverts back to his old ways. Today was a good day for him, relatively speaking, but he/we can't afford another single bad one. He's had far to many of those already and given far too much ammo to the enemy. He needs to set up camp in battle ground states and stay on topic. Nothing more, nothing less. Then we all need to pray. Lots.


I disagree. It's our test. Yes, Donald is getting evaluated by the masses and the vote is the test for Donald. We all know he is not perfect but I think the student of the mistakes and successes is Mike Pence. Let's hope he pays attention and on occasion he kicks Donald in the shin when he screws up.

Our test is patience. We are just going to have to swim the swamp and avoid the alligators to get the target. The target is the conservative Mike Pence.

I don't see any chance of a conservative running and getting the nomination. Ted Cruz came close but he failed. This means we have to have a throw down candidate that can win to get us there. I think Donald made a great choice in Mike Pence but Mike would never have gotten a presidential opportunity being a conservative. Even Ted Cruz now has baggage. Taking money from the big money donors. He is tainted. He better not give up his Senate job.

It's all about patience. We just spent the last 8 years tolerating a loser. We can wait 85 days to change that direction. But the real reward comes in 8 years if everything goes well. It's our job to make it go well.

kwg
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It's our job to make it go well.
Well, he better get an office here soon then. I can't find any listing of any campaign offices for Iowa or anywhere else. All I can find is the NJ office closed 4 days ago. Flipping nuts!

So who and in what state among you Trump guys are out there working for him? What's the strategy and has anyone reached out to any of you?
Go to the republican booth at the State Fair and see if they can give you an address.

kwg
If you're going to talk about the Pharisees, you shold at least know what the Messiah had to say to them. Yeah,...there's some bad spirits inhabiting the world.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A42-47&version=NKJV

And I would ask you to look to your Bibles again. God uses some pretty gritty characters to work His glorious and sovereign will. Jacob was a trickster who lied to his father. Abraham had wives and concubines. Samson kept a harlot. Solomon had hundreds of concubines. Peter betrayed Christ. Saul of Tarsus, was a murderous wretch

Does that mean he could work through Hilly as well?

When you finally come to the conclusion there is a God, you’re likely to try to attempt to please Him.
And this is where it can get dangerous. You might be on your way to the sanctuary for worship, and you see a man curled up by the side of the road, bloody and beaten by robbers. Something tells you the man needs your help (that’s God talking to you), but you are wearing your Sunday best, and you’re not trained as a first responder, and you’ve been given the honor of opening today’s meeting in prayer, and, besides, this guy is probably a drug addict and you have little children you’re responsible for — so you hurry on to church and you prove that you have the spirit of the Pharisee — that weird inclination to ignore what Jesus called “the weightier matters of the law.”

Your argument might hold more weight if Trump was bleeding by the side of the road and need medical attention...........not just needing my vote.

Think on that for a moment. Max closes his eyes to another “Christian,” Barack Obama, who stands foursquare for the slaughter of millions of unborn babies, at your expense, but Donald Trump called a lady a “bimbo?” Intolerable! Unthinkable! Impolite! Time to engage the Pharisee warp engines.

http://www.charismanews.com/politics/primaries/51296-donald-trumps-views-on-abortion-confusing

Who is the real Christian here? The one who acts like it, or the one who puts on a polite show of neutrality?
Only god can answer that
What are you smokin nealglen37, Politics and Religion are 2 completely different subjects, 1 deals with reality and the other is the stuff of fairytales ....

I will however say Trump is a False God and certainly no saviour !
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by Calhoun
God wants us to vote Trump. I know that now.

Thank you.


He also wants you to play in traffic.


laugh laugh laugh
Originally Posted by RGinther
What are you smokin nealglen37, Politics and Religion are 2 completely different subjects, 1 deals with reality and the other is the stuff of fairytales ....

Just for clarity' sake, could you say which is which?
Originally Posted by RGinther
What are you smokin nealglen37, Politics and Religion are 2 completely different subjects, 1 deals with reality and the other is the stuff of fairytales ....

I will however say Trump is a False God and certainly no saviour !
Ahh, the lieberal speaks. Thank you for sharing your imbecility with us.
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