Has anyone heard this story yet?

I'll did up a link or two but we need to sound of as hunters and boycott Under Armor

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bu...nt-video-2016-8?client=ms-android-att-us

https://www.change.org/p/under-armo...-armour-to-quit-cowering-to-anti-hunters

I don't have anything Under Armor.

But it sounds like they were sponsoring a woman hunter and instead what they got was her husband getting teary-eyed and emotional over whacking a bear over bait with a thrown spear, problem being from my viewpoint he hit that bear pretty far back, and we don't know how far and how long it went before being found.

Brings up the question of just how consistently you can hit the kill zone of a startled bear with a thrown spear anyhow.

They sponsored a woman hunter, and she made 'em sorry they ever did so. Not a win for our side.

JMHO,

Birdwatcher

Why do the make camo clothing then? I guess they thought camo was a fashion wear.

It only went about 60 yards, and they didn't look for it until the next morning since it was near dark when he speared it.

I won't be buying any under armor. Fu ck those liberal bastards..

Ehh...they make good [bleep]. They got bad press from someone they didnt even sponsor, for doing something that was destined to garner bad press.

They made a business decision. Until they stop making good gear, I dont see an issue.

Suppose we could ask em.

A spokeswoman for Under Armour, the No. 2 U.S. sportswear maker, said while the company is "dedicated to the hunting community," spearing the bear may have been a step too far.

"The method used to harvest this animal was reckless and we do not condone it," said Danielle Daly in an email on Thursday evening.

I fail to see a problem with the tool he used.

tedthorn;
Good evening to you sir - very likely tomorrow for you already I see.

This story is making the rounds up here on this side of the medicine line as well and garnering a lot of attention as well as no small amount of debate.

For a good many years when we're teaching the ethics night in our provincial Hunter Safety course I've typically said that if the hunter is proficient enough with their chosen hunting tool to hit a standard paper plate - every time, no exceptions - then they're good to go to hunt with it.

There is of course the proviso of the tool being legal, so here in BC for instance no rimfires for big game, no FMJ bullets and such. I will note that I can't see in our province where a spear would be illegal to hunt with and I've personally not heard of anyone doing so.

To the best of my knowledge the spear was legal in Alberta.

That all taken into account, we started to talk about videoing hunts a couple years back and to think carefully about what they/we post online.

I'm likely being cynical here, but it strikes me in this instance if the chap would've sat down and lit some sage on fire while gazing into the smoke pensively and talking in hushed terms about the bear's spirit and how he was going to eat it there wouldn't be an issue and we'd not have ever heard of them.

That didn't happen though and here we are.

While I do defend all methods of legal hunting and won't tell anyone how they should celebrate their kills, one has to also see that some of these videos don't do any of us many favors - if any.

It's a brave new world that couldn't be more different from the days of "what happens on the mountain stays on the mountain" anyway.

Good luck in your hunts this fall Ted.

Dwayne

Somebody trying to make "good tv" screwing it up for the rest of us. In the real world, I would think a bear that is dead within 60 yards after being speared isn't a bad hit. In the tv world, nobody ever makes a bad shot and animals fall right over, without any blood. As far as Under Armor, I never had any of it. Can't say if it's good or bad. They have to appease the people paying for their stuff. Simple as that. I don't hold it against them.

Fahq Under Armor. I don't buy their overpriced and overrated garbage nor do I spend my money in socialist schittholes if i can help it.

Under what? Never heard of them. Lol.

It's getting to the point of asking what companies are not owed by liberal scum

I have already written UnderArmor, and informed them that they have just 'Zumboed" themselves.

complete and utter BS, once again.................

I prefer cotton.

More chinese crap sold by big box stores.

I pity those that have not figured that out by now.

A company which markets clothing would seem to me to represent free enterprise in all it's glory (you know, using cheap labor overseas to produce stuff they then sell at a big profit in North America and Europe) yet here, on this forum, they are now a bunch of socialists because they choose not to advertise in a way which they feel would be detrimental to their sales. In essence, it seems some here can talk a good "free enterprise" line but don't really like to see it in action. If I was running any company, I think I would want to steer away from Mr Spear Chucker too.
In the end, a lot of this comes down to perception. If a guy used a spear to defend himself against a bear, he would be regarded as a hero. If the same guy uses a speer to kill a baited bear just to show that he can, it doesn't play quite as well. If he then acts like a fool on video after the fact and posts his foolishness for all to see, I can't blame any company for deciding to stay far away from him. The whole celebratory dance business, especially when posted online, stikes me as someone calling out, "Hey! Look at me! I'm a dork!". Plainly, not everyone feels that way but the Under Armor people must think enough do that they don't want to be associated with it.
I once knew a woman who killed a moose with an axe as it was climbing up a steep bank out of the lake. Maybe she danced around shrieking with glee afterward and maybe it was only the fact that Go Pro didn't exist in 1955 that saved her from posting a video of her accomplishment. Different time and different circumstances I guess. GD

Hey Grey Dog,

You are too politically Correct.

While I don't see a thing wrong with killing a bear with a spear, I do think that there should be some discretion on the was we broadcast what we do. In other words....not every hunt needs to be put on TV. I used to be a fan of the hunting shows, and would watch them for hours. I guess I just tired of seeing average sized 8 point bucks being shot, and then some hunter having a teary-eyed fit over the kill, acting as though he had just killed a new world record. Also, I didn't like seeing some hunter, mostly bowhunters, make a bad hit, shot a buck in the guts, then go back and find him the next day....after the coyotes had found him first. I realize that those things happen in the real world all the time, and I've been on some hunts when similar situations occurred.....but, you don't brag about it, and you don't publicize it for the rest of the world to see.

How so?

Or are you running on "feelings" too?

I don't care for hunting shows, with all of the made for TV fist pumps and hootin and hollerin after every behind a high fence, or professionally guided kill. I don't see how this woman or her husband did anything remotely wrong or unethical on this bear hunt though. The kill didn't look anything different from what you would expect with a bow.
Under Armour is just pandering to the suburbanites soccer mom and dad crowd that buy most of there gear and didn't like what they saw.

I'm a firm believer that Facebook video postage hunting pictures, YouTube post and TV hunting shows are now the enemy to the normal hunting communities.

They do more to arm the anti crowd then help the hunting crowd post Cecil.

Does anyone have a corporate email for UA?

Ted;
Good morning to you sir, hopefully you all slept better than I appear to have done or not done as it turns out.

Again that's why we are taking more and more time in the Hunter Safety courses we're teaching talking about just that.

I'm not hiding what I love to do, but neither would I care to broadcast for public consumption some of the events I've experienced. Without being actually present for the run up to the event and the aftermath as well really, it's tough for anyone to truly understand what took place in a soundbite of film.

For the same reason I don't believe we get the total picture with cameras on LEO or even dashcams in some instances.

Anyway those are my thoughts on it and nothing more this morning.

Dwayne

Don't own any and don't plan on buying any.

i'd use a spear.

Great post Dwayne!



If I were a betting man, I'd wager that the primary reason this guy came up with this idea for a hunt was so that he could film it and broadcast it. To each his own but IMO that's a pitiful reason to hunt.

Go Pro + Under Armor + Spear = douche bag.


Sticking a bear in the guts with a spear then waiting a day?

Was this guy wearing a sleeveless shirt? Biggest in his quartet?

Don't know about that but ten to one when he's pumping iron at the gym, he grunts loud and wears his baseball cap backwards.

I watched the video of this hunt. Other than the stupid gleefull jumping around nothing was done wrong. It was a good kill. Waiting till morning to find an animal that could kill you is not stupid. This is a bear not a whitetail. Opinions vary. ED K

We are often our own worst enemy.

Under Armour made a leap many years ago by marketing to the hunting demographic, a typically verboten market segment in relation to most mainstream sporting goods manufacturers. In that leap, they brought on good designers and consultants, and as a result, turns out very good gear. While I dont subscribe to the UA worship, and own very few non hunting items, their hunting and outdoor gear is top notch.

That being said, the hunting segment of their company is minute in comparison to the remainder of their company's product line. Angering their base, urbanites and yuppies, would be equivalent to cutting off their nose to spite their face. What we got, as opposed to a hard line stance, was a pretty good compromise. Under Armour, in essence, told us, and the world, that as long as we dont do stupid stuff that we KNOW is going to garner negative press, they will continue to support us.

Under Armour is a business, not a lobbying organization. When the hunting, or running, or football segment is no longer profitable, or in some negatively impacts the brand, that segment will be reevaluated. Anything else would be ridiculous.

Birdwatcher
what part of 'complete and utter BS' are you having trouble understanding? lol

If anyone watched the original 12+ min video on Youtube before it was deleted would see the problem. The guy was a total douche.

I don't have a problem with UA clipping them, in fact, I support UA's decision. Too damn many people are doing crap to alienate the anti's while trying to get their 15 minutes of fame and it's disgusting to me.

These types of people base the success of their hunts on how many "likes and shares" they can get on social media. Just because something is legal doesn't mean you have to share it with the world. It's not so much the pissing off of the anti's that bothers me but when you piss off or shock the people that were indifferent to the sport of hunting it's not good for us. Some people will thrust themselves into the spotlight regardless of the damage done to the sport. Selfish and narcissistic IMO

I see through so much if this crap. People want their 15 minutes of fame so they'll go kill a giraffe and post a bunch of pictures, they'll provoke and antagonize the anti's into death threats and them talk about them like its a badge of honor. This was a publicity stunt they knew would get them attention and it did.

What's sad is the attention whores will profit from this while the company that took a stand against these types of actions is being boycotted. Looks to me like they got exactly what they went trolling for....

I have no problem with him spearing the bear.

And I have no problem with UA sponsoring only the people they choose to sponsor.

UA has always been supportive of the hunting, military, and law enforcement communities. They're simply choosing to not sponsor some d-bag and his ol' lady.




Travis

Travis;
Good morning to you sir, hope you're keeping cool enough down on your side of the medicine line.

I read your post and thought "Fine be succinct, see if I care"

Oh we're not in church this morning so don't look for me at the usual spot. We're packing up our youngest who starts back at university next week - wish me luck getting it all in my wife's SUV....

All the best to you all and good luck on your hunts this fall.

Dwayne

Best of luck on your Sunday Dwayne!

I'm headed to church shortly.




Travis

Translation: We (I) just got fired and I'll now need to work somehow to cover what we were essentially getting as easy money.........



Murder has been justified in some people's minds too, but it's never - or rarely- legal. Right, legal...... two different things.

I really doubt that rescuing the boss' wife from an abusive relationship would work out any better.


Getting fired is never easy. It can even make one's grammar get crazy.

Chalk up another one to social media.

Most of which is self inflicted.

Bingo.

The anti crowd does not need anything good or bad to support their cause. They are illogical and emotional. They want all hunting stopped. Even here among "friends" I was unmercifully attacked for a dozen or more pages because I showed no "respect" for a deer I shot in the head. They seemed to prefer a deer with a hole in the chest that didn't die before it hit the ground. That shows "respect".

Your reality is quite different than 99% of the people here.

I was thinking the same thing....

Pissing wars bore folks, me included, I was hoping for rational arguments as to how that lady and her husband didn't screw the pooch, it appears ya ain't got any <shrug>

I'll put it this way. The next time any of you guys fuqk up, somebody will slap your wife. That is substantially what happened here.

Hardly...but white knight it however you wish..

Business is not personal, yet so few seem to be able to grasp that.

Some people just don't get it, but a corporate sponsorship only lasts as long as the arrangement is making money, and/or good press, for the sponsor. When that no longer happens, the deal is off, and they find someone else to sponsor.

ET,
We'll agree to disagree here.

Looks to me they're more of a "we" package.



More:
https://www.instagram.com/bowmarbowhunting/?hl=en

A few posters have already noted this but the "antis" aren't who we need to concern ourselves with and I agree with Ringman on that much. Nothing we do/don't do is going to change their minds and I really don't care what they choose to believe.

It's the people in the middle, the ones who aren't strongly pro- or anti- that can make a difference and we don't need to go out of our way to alienate them.

And Under Armour didn't slap anyone or anyone's wife, they just made a choice about where to invest their advertising dollars.

Isn't that their prerogative?

Atlatls are legal for deer hunting in Missouri....probably not a UA approved method of hunting

Pretty much here with Stevlyn. I own 2 pieces - top and bottom underwear- of UA. Wore the top once, probably never again. Tight and clammy, and too expensive. Wear the bottoms occasionally when hunting with the snow machine. So I like tights - bite me! . I don't like tight tops- and like I said, it feels clammy.

I won't be buying any more UA.

Agree with premise that it was a good kill, good follow up, bad post, and justifiable dropping of sponsorship

No.......she was fired

I myself didn't like the video....but then again I don't like hunting TV either

Way to make easy money and have a lot of fun.....find a pretty girl, teach her how to shoot a bow and gun, film her hunts, sell to men who like to watch a pretty girl dressed in camo. Worked pretty good till hubby got too cocky. No pun intended.

I found this thread very interesting and I see some parallels with the hunting/gun community and the African American Community. Both groups are minorities yet are very vocal. Both groups attack their own for agreeing with the majority, i.e. Uncle Tom or anti-gun/hunter. Neither group is willing to discipline or exclude those who are detrimental to their existence.

As a hunter/shooter, we all need to decide on what is acceptable and what is not acceptable. Spear hunting for bear? What's next slingshots? Maybe beefed up brush guards on our trucks cruising the road looking to run over something. I know this sounds absurd, but the attention seeking idiots will think of something else more absurd trying to make a dollar. I think we will start losing support from the general public who is the majority if we continue to justify all types of hunting and shooting. There is a line we can all cross which would not be acceptable and it needs to be defined. Just my 2 cents.

I guess her being in the video should carry no weight.




Dave

This is not a "we" issue.

This is a company deciding who they will and won't sponsor based on what type of product or performance is put out by those they sponsor.




Clark

It's not the lady, her husband, or the the spear so much as the camera, and the publishing of what the camera did which is the problem here. Her failure to understand that suggests a (common) disconnect between freedom and responsibility.

Trapping with legholds is legal in most states.

Should I make a youtube video of the procedures involved, and expect Under Armor to continue sponsorship after I post said video on YouTube?

Give me a fugking break. Nobody even knew spear hunting in North America EXISTED until this stupid f a g g o t and his do-nothing khgunt of a wife decided to affix a Go-Pro to a fugking spear.

And now I'm supposed to GAF that Under Armor isn't going to keep writing them checks? Under Armor made no admonishments to the hunting community. Under Armor has and will continue to endorse dozens of hunters. They simply chose to stop endorsing this pair of clown shoes.

As would I.





Clark

a spear with a stop against a bear would be something, let it charge then hope it runs itself through and the stop on the spear works.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that UA cut the sponsorship. What did the two morons think would happen when they used a spear, filmed it and showed it?
I can't support spearing and I have never owned a piece of overpriced UA stuff.

Klikitarik;
Good afternoon to you sir, I trust this finds you and your fine family well.

In Campfire parlance to what you've written - "this".

All the best to you all this fall Klik.

Dwayne

All the best back at you, Dwayne. (Good, safe success - however you define it- in all your fall pursuits!)

All that being said, Under Armor is for f ag g ots anyways. I mean honestly, who wears their schite?

You tried to but you determined you were too fat to do so.




Reality Dave

LMAO, guess I stuck a nerve eh?

I've never been one to worship trendy brands of clothes. To each their own....

the spastic contortions after taking an animal is what turns me off. same as the goofy prancing around after a touch down .
as far as taking a bear with a spear i see nothing wrong with that. my ancestors practiced that here for thousands of years , was a great way to control our population growth.
worked most of the time but when it didn't it made space for someone more proficient.

Everybody needs to step back for a second and regroup.


And I'm not just saying that because I happen to be on UA Pro-Staff(both upland and big game...).


I'm saying that because we as hunters need to unite as one.


Just because spearing a bear and then posting it on social media gives us 'normal' hunters a very poor imaage, doesn't mean that we all still can't loose a few inches off the ol' beer belly and slip into the latest form fitting, super stealthy UA camo pattern.


And now that we've teamed up with Scent Lok this chit is about to get real.....

Real deadly that is....



#UABUCKNASTY


Feel free to hit me up on Facebook!

[quote=Klikitarik]It's not the lady, her husband, or the the spear so much as the camera, and the publishing of what the camera did which is the problem here. Her failure to understand that suggests a (common) disconnect between freedom and responsibility. [/quote

Agreed,[bleep] morons.lmfao

Bucknasty, you have inspired me. You took Clarke's hurtful tirade (all he had to do was admit he digs trendy clothes with cool brand names) and made it positive. Will your ScentLok be good enough to absorb pickled eggs and saurkraut farts?

BroGruff, you will be amazed at the scent holding abilities and overall scent holding capacity of the all new Scent Lok series.


In your case I'd go with the Quick Lok series men's under garments. Designed specifically for sudden(and powerful) flatulence.

http://www.apparelsearch.com/financial/stocks/wholesale/delta_galil_industries.htm

I wear UA stuff, although I find some of it extremely overpriced. I get cold easily, and their products work well for me. What they did was simply a business decision, and the guilty party may very well have violated the terms of their contract as far as I know. We live in a era in which it seems that all the 40 and under age group seems to think they have an obligation to put everything they do on social media for the world to see. I'd be willing to bet that the hunter who speared the bear couldn't wait to show all his buddies what a brave and daring thing he had done, and probably never gave a second thought to offending anyone. Sharing everything they do is just second nature to all the Facebook and smartphone junkies.

Fact: You're too fat to wear the Under Armor you were gifted.

Fact: You've too much Israeli in your DNA to buy your own Under Armor that would fit so you could actually test it.



Clark

silk and wool work better than UA ever did for us, and it doesn't stink like UA does after the first use....

I determine what is, and is not trendy.




Dave

I'm too dumb to figure out how to work a go-pro and certainly don't know how to make a Youtube video so I'll probably never be in this situation, but I will NEVER apologize or try to hide from the anti's the fact that I am hunting something legally.

There's folks out there who think hunting with anything other than a longbow or atlatl or whatever other weirdo homemade "primitive" weapon you can dream up is unethical. If those folks said posting any video of a rifle killed critter makes us look bad, would everyone here follow suit?

Give the anti's an inch, they'll take my dick length. Don't apologize for or hide ANY legal hunting, but also don't go out of your way to give them ammo.

Feel free to sponsor this dynamic duo.




Dave

Try washing it.




Dave

LOL. No kidding.

Who wouldn't want to hunt with the guy?

BGG and Flave used to be in really awesome shape.

I still can't believe he left me for Douche Adair.

(Tear font)



Dave

Spot on.

More or less the theme behind this guy's jewelry, it is my understanding that about half the time the grizzly won, but if you DID pull it off, a necklace of claws pulled the women big time. Judging by the claws ol' Many Scalps there was two for two.

He was a Sauk from Illinois, to get within range of a grizzly those guys had to pass undetected through the lands of enemy tribes to the West coming and going. It is my understanding it was generally a solitary endeavor that could take months.

Besides all that, that guy Many Scalps didn't get that name by being a barber, leastways not as we presently understand the term.

Birdwatcher

Fugkin' Democrat.




Dave

I almost spit dip on my 'puter.

I never met a democrat from illinois that didn't Sauk, or any democrat for that matter....

Sums up my thoughts on the matter pretty well -

99%?

Too kind....

+1

You misspelled "dick."




Clark

And a yankee to boot. Lower case.

Didn't spit it, but my wife drooled some of her dip on this one.

Well you must not like archery kills either. The spear has a 4" wide cutting head and is hugely damaging. More deadly than an arrow, just not long ranged.

No, you were "attacked" because you're an ass hole.

Did your washing machine break?

https://m.facebook.com/UAHunt/

The guys that created UA, did it for hunting. They're not anti-hunting. They're anti-ass hole. The video was not much different than ass shooting a bear, let it sit in a valley over night and have your guide kill it with an uber .44 mag, then fetch it out with 6300' of winch cable.

Teds latest elsewhere.

"It was a bad video with an even worse end zone celebration

Maybe with UA dropping this sponsorship they will follow with others.

Is Waddell or Pig Man sponsored by UA ?

99% of hunting TV is horrible to watch

Product placement and even worse acting and shot/track reenactments

I hit him a bit back......this means I shot him in the gutsie
It was getting dark so we backed out until morning...guts again
End zone dancing, fist pumping after shooting a deer with a name
Fist pumping BBD after shooting a buck you have 500 GB worth of game camera pictures of

The list could go on and on and on

It wouldn't bother me.....as a matter of fact as I have thought about this the past day or two....I wish UA would get out of the hunting industry.

They won't because hunters $$$$ is easy and ripe for the picking.....YETI anyone?

Step on in Willie Robertson.....he loves to accept checks from UA

What bothers me is UA didn't pull this sponsorship without an anti hunters petition prompting them to do so"

I was going to say something..but it was for the other, other, other UA drops hunter thread. Seems like the topic is fairly covered.

I like under armour products. Their shirts are all I wear, it really helps wick away sweat. The Bowmars in my opinion are the Georgia Florida line of the hunting world. Hope they go away.