Ann Coulter thinks it’s a “mistake” for Donald Trump to soften his stance on immigration.
Coulter has been one of Trump’s most fervent supporters, particularly for his strident stance on immigration. She said his recent indications that he could moderate on the issue sounded to her like “tired talking points.”
She appeared on MSNBC’s Hardball Tuesday evening, where Chris Matthews asked her to weigh in on recent remarks from Trump in which he admitted that he was considering “softening” his policies on immigration. “We’re not looking to hurt people,” Trump had said.
Coulter said Trump’s comments “sounded very consultant to me,” adding, “This could be the shortest book tour ever if he’s really softening his position on immigration.” Her latest book is entitled In Trump We Trust.
“I don’t think he is” softening, she added.
“I think this is a mistake. It sounds like it’s coming from consultants,” she said. “I’ve thought he’s made other mistakes, and I’ve given him constructive criticism when I think he makes a mistake. I think this is a mistake.”
For instance, Coulter was fiercely critical of Trump’s choice of Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, a move she said was “Trump’s first mistake.”
Coulter makes money by selling books and making appearances, so it's in her best interest to stir [bleep].
Very true, but a hard line stance on immigration was one of the primary things that got a lot of supporters to choose him over the other dozen candidates.
New campaign management and within a week you have a possible softening on immigration. Coulter does make sense that it does sound like "consultant" talk.
She's wrong...Like it or not, the presidential election is decided by the middle, not the right or the left. So taking an extreme position on anything isn't going to help you with moderate voters, and that's who he needs to appeal to...he already has the right sewn up, so why keep preaching to the choir?
And of all the positions to choose to dig your heels in on, immigration is the dumbest. Neither the Right or the Left has anything approaching a workable solution to immigration, so the chance that ANYTHING is going to happen with immigration is about nil. So why die on that hill?
he already has the right sewn up, so why keep preaching to the choir?
Ah, so he doesn't lose them? A lot of the people who supported Trump are not consistent voters. It won't take much wiggle on core issues to make them stay home.
he already has the right sewn up, so why keep preaching to the choir?
Ah, so he doesn't lose them? A lot of the people who supported Trump are not consistent voters. It won't take much wiggle on core issues to make them stay home.
How do you know that? I don't think you know what you're talking about. I think the people who support Trump have been screwed one time too many, by the establishment GOP types. Given a choice, they chose the non establishment candidate.
he already has the right sewn up, so why keep preaching to the choir?
Ah, so he doesn't lose them? A lot of the people who supported Trump are not consistent voters. It won't take much wiggle on core issues to make them stay home.
How do you know that? I don't think you know what you're talking about. I think the people who support Trump have been screwed one time too many, by the establishment GOP types. Given a choice, they chose the non establishment candidate.
She's wrong...Like it or not, the presidential election is decided by the middle, not the right or the left. So taking an extreme position on anything isn't going to help you with moderate voters, and that's who he needs to appeal to...he already has the right sewn up, so why keep preaching to the choir?
And of all the positions to choose to dig your heels in on, immigration is the dumbest. Neither the Right or the Left has anything approaching a workable solution to immigration, so the chance that ANYTHING is going to happen with immigration is about nil. So why die on that hill?
That someone your age doesn't get that still. Republicans will vote for the Republican, and Democrats will vote Democrat. The independents whom are mostly moderate are now a larger group than D's and R's combined; they are the one's who actually decide a presidential election. And it's been that way since I can remember.
he already has the right sewn up, so why keep preaching to the choir?
Ah, so he doesn't lose them? A lot of the people who supported Trump are not consistent voters. It won't take much wiggle on core issues to make them stay home.
How do you know that? I don't think you know what you're talking about. I think the people who support Trump have been screwed one time too many, by the establishment GOP types. Given a choice, they chose the non establishment candidate.
I recall in the primaries it was said about 20% of Trump voters identified as liberals or moderates. I view moderates and independents as mostly lieberals who are ashamed to admit it. Voting republican would not be consistent for them. Of course, the liberals could have been plants, too, who only voted R to get the candidate they believed could more easily be defeated.
We've all be screwed many times too many by the establishment. That is not an exclusive mantra for Trump supporters by any means. Many didn't buy that Trump was anything but the establishment, regardless of what and how he said it. I'll take him over Hillary and vote accordingly, but he's an unknown quantity with a concerning sudden change of "heart" that has never sat well with me. Time will tell.
Of course she's right. One of the main reasons for his success has been his hard line stance on illegal immigrants. Give that up, and he loses enthusiasm from his supporters. Many might even abandon him, taking it as a sign that the base has been tricked again.
She's wrong...Like it or not, the presidential election is decided by the middle, not the right or the left. So taking an extreme position on anything isn't going to help you with moderate voters, and that's who he needs to appeal to...he already has the right sewn up, so why keep preaching to the choir?
And of all the positions to choose to dig your heels in on, immigration is the dumbest. Neither the Right or the Left has anything approaching a workable solution to immigration, so the chance that ANYTHING is going to happen with immigration is about nil. So why die on that hill?
unfreaking believable..
Hate to give jorge a +1, but he hit the nail on the head with that comment.
Not too worry, Donald. Your True Believers won't turn on you, no matter how many times you change your position on every issue.
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he already has the right sewn up, so why keep preaching to the choir?
Ah, so he doesn't lose them? A lot of the people who supported Trump are not consistent voters. It won't take much wiggle on core issues to make them stay home.
How do you know that? I don't think you know what you're talking about. I think the people who support Trump have been screwed one time too many, by the establishment GOP types. Given a choice, they chose the non establishment candidate.
That someone your age doesn't get that still. Republicans will vote for the Republican, and Democrats will vote Democrat. The independents whom are mostly moderate are now a larger group than D's and R's combined; they are the one's who actually decide a presidential election. And it's been that way since I can remember.
The only thing absolute statements like yours demonstrate is a they are absolutely wrong. While you're at it, define "moderate" other than yourself of course.
The only thing absolute statements like yours demonstrate is a they are absolutely wrong. While you're at it, define "moderate" other than yourself of course.
Many call me a moderate just because I don't belong to either party; but I don't consider myself a moderate. I'm not wishy-washy on any political position I take. I just happen to believe that both the R and D parties are flatly BOTH WRONG on nearly every issue. The notion that there's only a right and left in politics is moronic. That kind of thinking has led to the political system we have of just two parties; neither of which represent anyone but corporations or billionaires.
Not to worry! Give this 7 days and when Trump sees no bump in his poll numbers he will fire his staff and go back to being the Old/New Donald..ie....Attack every Republican with in shouting distance.
Many call me a moderate just because I don't belong to either party; but I don't consider myself a moderate. I'm not wishy-washy on any political position I take. I just happen to believe that both the R and D parties are flatly BOTH WRONG on nearly every issue. The notion that there's only a right and left in politics is moronic. That kind of thinking has led to the political system we have of just two parties; neither of which represent anyone but corporations or billionaires.
Many call me a moderate just because I don't belong to either party; but I don't consider myself a moderate. I'm not wishy-washy on any political position I take. I just happen to believe that both the R and D parties are flatly BOTH WRONG on nearly every issue. The notion that there's only a right and left in politics is moronic. That kind of thinking has led to the political system we have of just two parties; neither of which represent anyone but corporations or billionaires.
The world and voters aren't binary as you imply. I personally believe in about 90% of the Republican plank. I happen to disagree with about 90% of the Democrat plank. That's why I always end up voting for the Republican candidate. I'd rather vote for 90% than for 10%. Why is this math complicated?
Open borders is a New World Order, one-world-government objective. It destroys a country's culture and sovereignty. And it's done intentionally.
Opening the USA's borders was done innocuously with Hart-Celler, but it's sponsors had an insidious agenda: destroy America's Occidental culture thus destroying America. To preserve America's Occidental culture, Hart-Celler must be repealed.
If Trump were to modify or abandon his illegal immigration position, he'd risk losing due to voter apathy.
jorje1 does not realize that this is not the same country created by our Founding Fathers, nor is it the same country in which I grew up. It has been intentionally polluted. Conservatives will no longer play the ruling elite's game. Bush 43 was the last neocon that was able to dupe conservatives. Romney was the first neocon to learn that conservative won't support an establishment candidate who espouses the ruling elite's mantra.
I don't know an authentic conservative who voted for Romney. I know a lot of people who think they're conservative because they vote GOP candidates, but they're really neocons.
Trump has to know that if he sells out, he will probably lose because it won't matter who wins. He did phenomenally well during the primary because he was not an establishment stooge who took orders from the ruling elite. Trump spoke often of Kate Steinle and many others who were murdered by illegal aliens. Were he to abandon his pledge to deport all illegal aliens and build a wall along our southern border, conservatives will sit out this election. If conservatives don't vote for Trump, he will lose.
We're well on the path of becoming a Third World nation, and we're to blame.
BTW, open borders is consistent with Keynesian economics. Bring 'em in, load 'em up with debt, and create the illusion of monetary velocity, hence a strong and growing economy. The only problem is a Keynesian economy is built upon unstable ground. It will collapse.
None of this hillary crap would even be happening without Trump. The GOP(Jeb Bush) would just roll over and STFU. That was the plan all along..not now.
A Positive Perspective On Trump’s “Immigration Policy Shift”…
Posted on August 24, 2016 sundance/ Daily Pundit
A good perspective picked from the comments provided by Duke Taber:
With over 1,100 comments on this issue, obviously a lot of people have strong opinions about KC [Kellyanne Conway]. What I am about to say probably has already been said but here goes anyways.
I do not believe for an instance that KC’s comment/s were accidental. I don’t think most of you think so either. So the question is whether or not they were intentional for profitable design or nefarious design. The article has landed on the side of nefarious design. That is understandable considering the clients KC has represented in the past. I couldn’t stand “wolf in sheep’s clothing” Cruz.
However, I just don’t see this as something of nefarious design. If it was, the day that she started the narrative [Sunday], it would have been silenced by Mr. Trump. He has had no problem clarifying things that have been misspoken before.
However, not only has he not silenced this, but he has himself changed how he presents himself on the issue. And this is the real purpose I believe for this narrative.
On O’Reilly BO tried to paint him as supporting rounding up illegal immigrants and placing them in detention centers. Trump called him on it. He never said that. On Hannity last night he said that he doesn’t want to cause anyone personal pain in reference to illegal immigrants who have families here.
In both of those interviews, there has been one constant. The support for current immigration laws. What you are seeing is the removal of the narrative that Trump is the evil villain sitting high upon his golden Trump Tower looking down upon the poor illegal immigrant with racist eyes and plotting evil against them. This is also exemplified in his “humble Trump” speech and his outreach to the black community. All three of these things humanize Trump and remove the ability to demonize him.
It has become apparent at least to me, that the Trump campaign has decided that Mr. Trump needs to come across as more human and is wrestling with the human elements of decision making. I don’t believe he ever lacked humanity but I know that it took research to find examples of it demonstrated. Most people are too lazy to research so most do not know that side of him.
Tie this with his visit to the border, his town hall with Hannity last night highlighting the victims of crime by illegal aliens, including immigrants who came legally, the upcoming speech on immigration and the mantra of enforcing current immigration laws, and you see the design. In my opinion it is a profitable design. All the media will have to cover the speech because they have been covering this so-called change as news.
I believe that the campaign has made this choice to change the vernacular. No longer is it about deportation even though deportations will happen. It is about enforcing what others deemed was proper immigration law. If they do not like deportations, then talk to those that made the law. What they will not be able to do is claim this is Trump’s idea. Just like they are no longer able to claim that Trump does not care about Americans of African descent. It forces a different narrative. And that is what KC and Stephen Bannon were hired to do.
jorje1 does not realize that this is not the same country created by our Founding Fathers, nor is it the same country in which I grew up. I
I guess being a moron equates to poor reading comprehension. Had you a modicum of viable grey matter in that cavern that is your skull, you would have seen I've been saying that for years. Stupid, no credibility, being wrong is your standard, you must be a closet democrat, Raisuli/Laguna.
Ann Coulter is having a bit of a meltdown over this, posting more than a few tweets mocking Trump.
But Trump says a full plan will be laid out in the next week.
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Donald Trump pledged on Thursday to lay out his "exact plan" on immigration over the next week, after the Republican nominee has alarmed some conservatives by softening his hardline stances on his signature issue.
"I will be making a speech on that I would say over the next week, laying out an exact plan and I think people will have great respect for the plan" Trump said, as he met with African-American and Latino activists on Thursday morning.
“I look forward to that… Very strong on illegal immigration. We have to be. We have no choice,” Trump told members of the press after the meeting ended. “We either have a country or we don’t, we either have borders or we don’t. The wall is very important.”
Trump's campaign manager insisted on Thursday morning that his views on immigration haven't changed, despite Trump saying this week that he'd be open to a "softening" of immigration laws and that he will "work with" certain non-criminal immigrants who are in the country illegally.
The different tone on immigration — a sharp departure from his talk of a deportation force — comes as Trump has stepped up his outreach to minorities. But he has received criticism for not delivering his message in minority communities, instead picking areas with heavy white populations.
The meeting on Thursday, which was initially scheduled to happen in Ridgewood, Queens, was moved to Trump Tower in Manhattan due to “security reasons,” according to Pete Campbell, president of a Queen County GOP Club.
Trump met with fellows of the Republican Leadership Initiative, which trains young GOP activists in key battleground states.
“A very important part of the message for me are the African-Americans because they have really been let down by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats,” Trump added.
My opinion on this II crap. He needs to change the narrative to 'getting the influx stopped' first. No need in sending them through a revolving door. That's my .02 worth
Listening to his people defending him in the media, it sounds like his campaign is advancing a policy that's commonly called amnesty, i.e., the very reason Trump won the primaries, i.e., because he ran against the amnesty policy of his adversaries.
