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Very little details right now.

active scene.

supposedly 3 victims so far.

Cascade Mall.
Is the shooter Sunni, Shiite, or BLM?
http://komonews.com/news/local/police-respond-to-possible-shooter-at-cascade-mall

http://www.kiro7.com/

Aww fugg. Hopefully criminal on criminal and no bystanders hurt.
Prayers on the way for the injured and the LEO and Medics responding.
Active shooter situation near Cascade Mall in Burlington, Wash., police say; suspect described as Hispanic male wearing grey; last seen walking towards I-5 - @wspd7pio
This is close to becoming a daily occurrence. Such a shame being that 95% of us are peaceful and o biding.

Godspeed!
KIRO 7 is confirming 4 dead
But it's a gun free zone.
Prayers sent for all survivors of the incident, and the victims.
[bleep].

This isn't good, and they ain't caught the guy.
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
But it's a gun free zone.


One has to wonder why this never happens in a Cabela's or Sportsman's Warehouse.
Antelope_sniper: Those were my first thoughts but according to reports the suspect is "hispanic"!
Sad.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Antelope_sniper: Those were my first thoughts but according to reports the suspect is "hispanic"!
Sad.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


If he was shooting up a rival gang, that's still a possibility.
There are some pics out of the guy. The media tried to initially say "Hispanic". He does not appear to be. Time will tell.

Something is pretty sketchy with this one, but as with all things during the initial aftermath, information is often not accurate and lots of thing need verified for accuracy.
Reports are 4 dead. See:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3805102/Four-people-dead-shot-Washington-state-mall.html
Prayers for the dead.

Does anyone recognize the (very blurry) rifle?
Originally Posted by BMT
Prayers for the dead.

Does anyone recognize the (very blurry) rifle?


Kinda looks like an AK variant.
the rifle does not appear to have a DBM (such as an AK banana clip)

Again very blurry but it looks like a Marlin 60 (22LR?)
I just heard that it was a .22. Not confirmed but several sources say .22.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Antelope_sniper: Those were my first thoughts but according to reports the suspect is "hispanic"!
Sad.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


If he was shooting up a rival gang, that's still a possibility.


This is local to me. Clean low crime area, used to be a small rural town that is growing a lot now with new businesses all over, but we've started having a couple gang shootings in the last few years. I suspect this one is gang related as well. Staying frosty, and packing every day, as always.
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
There are some pics out of the guy. The media tried to initially say "Hispanic". He does not appear to be. Time will tell.

Something is pretty sketchy with this one, but as with all things during the initial aftermath, information is often not accurate and lots of thing need verified for accuracy.


What sex is his goat?

Kinda looks middle eastern to me....

I know its a blurry photo, but that was my 1st imp.

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This article says the shooting happened in the makeup department in a Macy's store. This sounds targeted attack rather than random shooter to me. A domestic dispute or maybe an angry employee of some sort?

http://www.kiro7.com/news/north-sou...orted-shooting-at-cascade-mall/449595663
Originally Posted by byc
This is close to becoming a daily occurrence. Such a shame being that 95% of us are peaceful and o biding.

Godspeed!


I'm one of the other 5% I guess. smile
Any new info on this?

It is interesting that there is almost zero information on it the following morning.
Based on the photo, the perp looks like he could as easily be Middle Eastern as Hispanic. Guess we'll find out eventually.
Mexican my ass.
News conference on now. CNN.
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
This article says the shooting happened in the makeup department in a Macy's store. This sounds targeted attack rather than random shooter to me. A domestic dispute or maybe an angry employee of some sort?

http://www.kiro7.com/news/north-sou...orted-shooting-at-cascade-mall/449595663


It will be interesting to see the names of the victims. The majority of targets attacks happen within the same race. If one or more of the female victims were Hispanic, perhaps it was a Hispanic lovers spat. If they all sound like something else, that's less likely.
Starting to seem like a domestic dispute.

Dude probably took the rifle that was laying around, loaded up, and shot her. Curious if the one man killed was her new boyfriend, a manager he suspected of getting to close to his girl, or just a guy who got in the way.


Terribly sad.

BMT
Originally Posted by bowmanh
Based on the photo, the perp looks like he could as easily be Middle Eastern as Hispanic. Guess we'll find out eventually.


I agree.

L.W.
I shake my head when the media or someone says they look "Hispanic." What does a Hispanic look like? It is like saying someone looks "Cajun." Hispanic is an ethnicity. Saying he looked Latino would be more accurate. He could be Brazilian which would nix the Hispanic thingy, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be Middle Eastern or similar decent when this is all figured out.
ruger 10-22 or Marlin 60 according to the news
Originally Posted by Longbob
" ...I shake my head when the media or someone says they look "Hispanic." What does a Hispanic look like? ..."


That's easy. Everyone knows what a Hispanic looks like.










wink grin

L.W.
Originally Posted by bea175
ruger 10-22 or Marlin 60 according to the news


Must have been a Model 60 Marlin. 10-22's jam. wink

Seriously though, the perp in the picture looks more like a friggin raghead to me.
Not too many ragheads around there but a chitload of wetbacks. He yelled a woman's name before shooting so it appears to be a targeted hit. I'm sure if he yelled a name that there's a clue as to nationality.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Not too many ragheads around there but a chitload of wetbacks. He yelled a woman's name before shooting so it appears to be a targeted hit. I'm sure if he yelled a name that there's a clue as to nationality.


"BITCH" cuts thru all language barriers.
Lolol. Like the racking of a shotgun, some things are universal and even the deaf can hear.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by BMT
Prayers for the dead.

Does anyone recognize the (very blurry) rifle?


Kinda looks like an AK variant.



You need your fahq N eyes checked. That's a wood-stocked sporting rifle.
I'd not be surprised to find out the woman's name he yelled was Alley Snackbar.
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Any new info on this?

It is interesting that there is almost zero information on it the following morning.


Probably because the Propaganda Corps can't spin it to fit the leftist narrative or it causes damage to it. Either way they aren't going to volunteer any information if it can't be used to their advantage.
Carry or be carried. That simple.
Originally Posted by MadMooner
I'd not be surprised to find out the woman's name he yelled was Alley Snackbar.


Either that, or Margarita, or Ayesha.

Regardless, the answer will be revealing.
They think they got the guy- arrested per the WA Staties.
Looks like they have caught the shooter:

http://www.king5.com/news/local/update-on-arrest-of-suspect-in-burlington-mall-shooting/325178535
Originally Posted by MadMooner
I'd not be surprised to find out the woman's name he yelled was Alley Snackbar.


Alaina Aguilar
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
Originally Posted by MadMooner
I'd not be surprised to find out the woman's name he yelled was Alley Snackbar.


Alaina Aguilar


Nothing like the 'fire...
The liberal press is sure hoping the suspect is a Mexican.

Hillary and the Halfican have forbid them to use the "terrorist" word
Arrested no name released or any other information, strange.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/24/suspect-in-washington-state-mall-shooting-in-custody.html
Originally Posted by 700LH


So it's not a white Christian.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by 700LH


So it's not a white Christian republican


Fixed it for ya wink
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People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.


Somebody say it ain't so.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
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People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.


Somebody say it ain't so.


Yea,

Who does that to a good hunting breed?
I'd read that his name is Arcan Cetin, moved here from Turkey when young, been a mental case before. We'll likely read that "recently he's been more radical", or some such crap.

http://mynorthwest.com/400470/cascade-mall-shooting-burlington/
Originally Posted by tucsonan
I'd read that his name is Arcan Cetin, moved here from Turkey when young, been a mental case before. We'll likely read that "recently he's been more radical", or some such crap.

http://mynorthwest.com/400470/cascade-mall-shooting-burlington/


What was the first question asked?

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Is the shooter Sunni, Shiite, or BLM?
Originally Posted by curdog4570
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People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.


Somebody say it ain't so.


Lol. PETA just went to DEFCAT 4.
name is Arcan Cetin age 20.
But the talking heads are still stumbling over themselves with "we're still trying to determine his motivation", etc. As a bonus, Gabrielle Giffords and The World's Stupidest Astronaut are capitalizing on it with comments about Unfortunate Gun Violence.

As opposed to Stabbing Violence, Bus Violence, Pressure Cooker Violence
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by curdog4570
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People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.


Somebody say it ain't so.


Yea,

Who does that to a good hunting breed?


Good hunting breed? Hahaha. Funniest thing I've read on the fire in a week!
Arcan Cetin........ several towns in Mexico with those names.



Aren't there?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ured-suspect-turkish-muslim-arcan-cetin/
Originally Posted by tucsonan
I'd read that his name is Arcan Cetin, moved here from Turkey when young, been a mental case before. We'll likely read that "recently he's been more radical", or some such crap.

http://mynorthwest.com/400470/cascade-mall-shooting-burlington/


Correct.

"Local media identified the suspect as Arcan Cetin, 20, a native of Turkey "
Another damn foreigner. Who would have thunk it 🙈 Obama's reaction 🙊🙉🙈
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by curdog4570
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People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.


Somebody say it ain't so.


Lol. PETA just went to DEFCAT 4.


OK, the reason for this thread existing is horrible... but that schidt almost made me crap my drawers, Aces!
UH-OH! Sounds like he's a Hillary supporter, too.

(Click on his profile picture for some more photos of himself and family.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ArcanCetin/status/556955812896444416?p=v
Greetings from the religion of peace.

It's apparently ok on some college campuses now to segregate blacks from whites, so the blacks will have a "safe space" and not get their feelers hurt if a white guy says something insensitive.

OTOH, suggesting that we put tighter restrictions on Muslim immigration, seeing as how we are having weekly terrorist events is TOTALLY racist.....
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Arcan Cetin........ several towns in Mexico with those names.



Aren't there?


Yes, I know how to speak Hispanic and Cetin is Smith in Hispanic. crazy
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Mexican my ass.


Yep,

He is a Muslim.
I know it has been confirmed that the shooter was born in Turkey and migrated to the U.S. but I have yet to see any confirmation that he is in fact a Muslim.

Wife's dad, a protestant minister, spent some time in Turkey with the Red Cross back in the late '60s. He said although most Turks were Muslims there also were a fair number of Christian Turks back then.
Originally Posted by joken2
I know it has been confirmed that the shooter was born in Turkey and migrated to the U.S. but I have yet to see any confirmation that he is in fact a Muslim.

Wife's dad, a protestant minister, spent some time in Turkey with the Red Cross back in the late '60s. He said although most Turks were Muslims there also were a fair number of Christian Turks back then.



Ok, so there is a 2.2% chance he isn't.
Laffin,,

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The established presence of Islam in the region that now constitutes modern Turkey dates back to the latter half of the 11th century, when the Seljuks started expanding into eastern Anatolia. According to religiosity polls, 97.8% of the population identifies as Muslim,and only 2% is non-religious.

He's a legal resident with three priors for domestic violence aaginst his father and a drunk driving conviction as well. By failing to revoke his green card and deport this undesireable, the Feds are responsible for the 5 deaths.

When is the government going to make the safety of its citizens the priority instead of the "rights" of immigrants, legal or not?

Answer: fugging never as long as the libs control the White House. Hillary has declared that everyone in the world has a right to move to the U.S if they so desire, all 7 billion of 'em.

Those of you inclined to throw you vote in the sh*t can by voting for a third party candidate instead of the best one that actually has a chance of winning (and has declared his intention of getting a handle on immigration) ought to think about that.
Documents: Mall shooting suspect confesses to slayings

By MARTHA BELLISLE - Associated Press - Monday, September 26, 2016

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MOUNT VERNON, Wash. (AP) — The young man accused of killing five people in a Washington state shopping mall before leading authorities on a nearly 24-hour manhunt has confessed to the slayings, according to court documents released Monday.

The documents filed in Skagit Court say Arcan Cetin told detectives who interviewed him that "he did bring the rifle into Macy's and shot all 5 victims."

The 20-year-old was arrested Saturday evening following the slayings at the Cascade Mall in Burlington, on Friday evening.

Cetin, who faces five charges of premeditated murder, will be making an initial court appearance late Monday morning. Authorities are asking that he be held on a $2 million bond.

Cetin was described by a neighbor as so "creepy, rude and obnoxious" that she kept a Taser by her front door. He also had a string of run-ins with the law in recent years, including charges he assaulted his stepfather.

As investigators tried to piece together information on Cetin, a picture emerged of a troubled young man. Court records show more than a half-dozen criminal cases in Island County alone since 2013.

Authorities said the gunman in the attack at the Cascade Mall opened fire in the department store's cosmetics department Friday night, killing a man and four females ranging from a teenager to a senior citizen. The killer then fled.

Cetin said nothing and appeared "zombie-like" when he was taken into custody on a sidewalk outside his apartment complex some 30 miles away in Oak Harbor by a sheriff's officer who recognized him as the suspect in the rampage, authorities said.

Cetin immigrated to the U.S. from Turkey and is a legal permanent resident, officials said. He is expected to make an initial court appearance Monday.

As the surrounding area absorbed news of the arrest, critical questions remained, including the gunman's motive. The FBI said early Saturday that there was no indication the shooting was terrorism, but local authorities said later in the day that they were ruling nothing out.

On Sept. 17, a 20-year-old man stabbed 10 people at a Minnesota mall before being shot to death by an off-duty police officer.

Authorities said they are investigating the attack by Dahir Ahmed Adan as a possible act of terrorism.

On Monday, nine people were wounded when a man opened fire near a Houston strip mall. Police said the gunman, who was shot and killed by police, was a lawyer who was having problems with his law firm.

In Washington state, investigators searched Cetin's vehicle and the apartment complex Sunday and were seen carrying boxes from a rear, upstairs unit. The four-unit building was surrounded with yellow police tape. Detectives would not say what they found.

Amber Cathey, 21, lived in an apartment next to Cetin for the past three months and said she was so frightened by him that she complained to apartment management and kept a stun gun handy. Cathey said she blocked him on Snapchat after he sent her a photo of his crotch.

"He was really creepy, rude and obnoxious," Cathey said. She said she would try to avoid him by walking the long way around to her apartment if she saw his car in the parking lot. The two were in high school together as well, and Cathey said he acted the same way then.

The Seattle Times reported (http://bit.ly/2cWhxJY) that court records show Cetin faced three charges of assaulting his stepfather. The newspaper said Cetin also was arrested on drunken driving charges. It gave no details on when the arrests took place or how the cases may have been resolved.

In the assault case, Cetin was told by a judge last December that he was not to possess a gun, the newspaper reported. However, the stepfather urged the judge not to impose a no-contact order, saying his stepson was "going through a hard time."

Attempts to reach Cetin's family for comment by phone and social media weren't immediately successful. It wasn't clear if Cetin had a lawyer yet. A man who came to the door Sunday morning at an Oak Harbor address believed to be where Cetin's stepfather and mother live asked an Associated Press reporter to leave the property.

Police said that they interviewed the suspect's former girlfriend, who has worked a different Macy's. No other details were released, including her name.

Social media accounts apparently belonging to Cetin showed he had a fondness for the military and video games.

A Twitter account showed, among other things, selfies, photos of him in younger years and pictures of Turkish food. He once participated in paintball and said he "can't wait for Halo 5," the first-person shooter video game. He also tweeted: "Shout out to the ROTC peeps." A Facebook account showed he liked military-related sites.

Cetin also appeared to have blogs on the site Tumblr that had not been updated in many months. They included seemingly random posts about serial killer Ted Bundy, a collection of selfies, the top-secret Area 51 Cold War test site and photos of Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and Islamic State group leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The two blogs linked back to each other and one of them linked to what appeared to be his Twitter page.

Oak Harbor is a city of 22,000 on Whidbey Island with many military families associated with the nearby Naval Air Station Whidbey Island.
Per www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/us/washington-mall-shooting/index.html

"Cetin is accused of using a Ruger 10/22 with a 25-round magazine. His father told police that his Ruger 10/22 was missing, along with some ammunition, court records say."
Originally Posted by bufaf
Per www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/us/washington-mall-shooting/index.html

"Cetin is accused of using a Ruger 10/22 with a 25-round magazine. His father told police that his Ruger 10/22 was missing, along with some ammunition, court records say."



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