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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...e/ar-BBwInKy?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=SK2BDHP

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/

The Arizona Republic, the largest newspaper in the state, endorsed Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, the first time the 126-year-old publication has supported a Democrat for president.

"Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles," the paper's editorial board wrote.

"This year is different. The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified. That's why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president," it continued.

Donald Trump, the editorial board wrote, does not understand the challenges the country faces, nor does he have the temperament to deal with them.

The paper acknowledged that Clinton has weaknesses but argued that her experience, pragmatism and disposition makes her well suited to occupy the Oval Office.

"Clinton retains her composure under pressure," reads the editorial. "She's tough. She doesn't back down."

"She is intimately familiar with the challenges we face in our relations with Russia, China, the Middle East, North Korea and elsewhere. She'll stand by our friends and she's not afraid to confront our enemies."

The paper also took a shot at GOP leaders who have backed Trump in the hopes that he will use the White House to advance conservative causes.

"[T]hey shudder at the thought of Hillary Clinton naming Supreme Court justices," the board wrote. "So they stick with Trump. We get that. But we ask them to see Trump for what he is - and what he is not."

"Trump's conversion to conservatism is recent and unconvincing. There is no guarantee he will name solid conservatives to the Supreme Court."
The Arizona Republic is owned by gannett, the same corporation that owns usa today, l.a. times, etc. It has NOT been conservative in nature since it was sold to gannett.
That is very far from the truth.
It's name here often is "the arizona repulsive."
it is an open borders, anti sheriff Joe, piece of newswipe good for bird cages.
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Wow!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...e/ar-BBwInKy?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=SK2BDHP

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/

The Arizona Republic, the largest newspaper in the state, endorsed Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, the first time the 126-year-old publication has supported a Democrat for president.

"Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles," the paper's editorial board wrote.

"This year is different. The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified. That's why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president," it continued.

Donald Trump, the editorial board wrote, does not understand the challenges the country faces, nor does he have the temperament to deal with them.

The paper acknowledged that Clinton has weaknesses but argued that her experience, pragmatism and disposition makes her well suited to occupy the Oval Office.

"Clinton retains her composure under pressure," reads the editorial. "She's tough. She doesn't back down."

"She is intimately familiar with the challenges we face in our relations with Russia, China, the Middle East, North Korea and elsewhere. She'll stand by our friends and she's not afraid to confront our enemies."

The paper also took a shot at GOP leaders who have backed Trump in the hopes that he will use the White House to advance conservative causes.

"[T]hey shudder at the thought of Hillary Clinton naming Supreme Court justices," the board wrote. "So they stick with Trump. We get that. But we ask them to see Trump for what he is - and what he is not."

"Trump's conversion to conservatism is recent and unconvincing. There is no guarantee he will name solid conservatives to the Supreme Court."


Big Takeaway: Carly can win!!!

ETA: No, I didn't read a fuggin' word you wrote. And I won't vote for Clinton, so go over to DU and peddle your wares.
Hillary helped cause all the problems in the middle east. Obama supplies money and weapons to the terrorist.
The "temperment" crap is BS, created out of nothing. It is specifically designed to denigrate Trump. Hillary has well documented problems with temperment and dealing with people. Just like Trump said, she has experience, but it's BAD experience. She did a lousy job. What a bunch of crap.
Holding up the Az. Republic as a "conservative" rag ?

..... good grief, talk about out of touch.

GTC
Conservative my ass!
What's the wow? The 'press' has been taken over by rich, agenda driven individuals who have financial interests contrarary to the good of America. They use pocket change to buy and sell the 'press.' The Arizona Republic is no different.
The Commercial Media has been for sale for a long time.

They sold out the American Public for special interest, profit, and big business long ago.

Every smidge of news anyone hears on MSM is designed and tailored to point or push you in the direction they want you to go.

Period.
Seek some kind of help Rob.
They have many FSA folks....just like Louisiana!!
I would not say the Republic is conservative. At least not in the sense that the WSJ and Fox is.
This is proof positive that you're a complete and utter moron.

No matter former track record, no matter the make up of the editorial staff, no matter ANYTHING... anyone who endorses Clinton CANNOT EVER be considered even for a SPLIT second a Conservative!

No amount of words can make the case. It's impossible.

And you're dumb enough to post something to the contrary.

ES&D
Carly! Carly! Carly!
Originally Posted by RoninPhx
The Arizona Republic is owned by gannett, the same corporation that owns usa today, l.a. times, etc. It has NOT been conservative in nature since it was sold to gannett.
That is very far from the truth.
It's name here often is "the arizona repulsive."
it is an open borders, anti sheriff Joe, piece of newswipe good for bird cages.


Way to go Ron!

Bust his bubble but good, now what is Funk to do.
"...The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified....see Trump for what he is...no guarantee he will name solid conservatives to the Supreme Court."

Yup, they're all over it. Wish everyone else was. Can't see endorsing Clinton, though.
"The Republican Candidate is not a corrupt, opportunistic rentierist like Hitlery."
Conservative my aching arse. Just another member rag in good standing in the Propaganda Corps.
Most sorry-azz liberal progressive rag I have ever had the misfortune to try to read.

How anyone can refer to it as "conservative" is beyond me.
It used to be conservative. After Gannett bought it it wasn't anymore.
It had been sliding for a while but that purchase clinched it.
Lock in step with all the other socialist, collectivist rags.
I think AL Jazeera is more conservative that the AZ Repulsive.
A long, long time ago they embraced a pro immigration, anti-gun agenda with every op-ed tainted with self-imposed white guilt.

I wouldn't traumatize the cat by lining the litter box with a copy much less wipe my arse with it.
Look at all the Trump apologists having a cry.

Its a conservative state newspaper reflecting an altered reality for some it would appear...
All the papers are owned by sornos.
Jordan - wake up !! Be honest. The AZ Republic is NOT conservative.
Originally Posted by CCCC
CCCC - wake up !! Be honest. The Trump is NOT conservative.


I think this is what you meant
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Wow!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...e/ar-BBwInKy?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=SK2BDHP

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/

The Arizona Republic, the largest newspaper in the state, endorsed Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, the first time the 126-year-old publication has supported a Democrat for president.

"Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles," the paper's editorial board wrote.

"This year is different. The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified. That's why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president," it continued.

Donald Trump, the editorial board wrote, does not understand the challenges the country faces, nor does he have the temperament to deal with them.

The paper acknowledged that Clinton has weaknesses but argued that her experience, pragmatism and disposition makes her well suited to occupy the Oval Office.

"Clinton retains her composure under pressure," reads the editorial. "She's tough. She doesn't back down."

"She is intimately familiar with the challenges we face in our relations with Russia, China, the Middle East, North Korea and elsewhere. She'll stand by our friends and she's not afraid to confront our enemies."

The paper also took a shot at GOP leaders who have backed Trump in the hopes that he will use the White House to advance conservative causes.

"[T]hey shudder at the thought of Hillary Clinton naming Supreme Court justices," the board wrote. "So they stick with Trump. We get that. But we ask them to see Trump for what he is - and what he is not."

"Trump's conversion to conservatism is recent and unconvincing. There is no guarantee he will name solid conservatives to the Supreme Court."


Are you shidding me, God almighty, you just don't quit, get a fricking life for crying out loud.

I'll vote Trump because he is not Hillary, that it, that's all, and if you are thinking about pulling the lever for Hillary you are fugged up more than I ever thought you were.
Originally Posted by efw
This is proof positive that you're a complete and utter moron.

No matter former track record, no matter the make up of the editorial staff, no matter ANYTHING... anyone who endorses Clinton CANNOT EVER be considered even for a SPLIT second a Conservative!

No amount of words can make the case. It's impossible.

And you're dumb enough to post something to the contrary.

ES&D


Well said Eric

Rob has to be a idiot.
"the arizona republic" long time ago was called "the arizona republican." As a kid i like many others carried that newspaper in the morning through grade school and high school.
It was owned basically by the pulliam family, and partially owned by the Dan Quayle family, as in the vice president.
Then it was sold to Gannett, and it changed.
It has an editorial board that is composed of open boarder people, liberals, and all kinds of apologists. they do dislike sheriff Joe, disliked Jan Brewer, etc.
I finally quite taking the paper after almost a lifetime, a few years ago except for the wensday and sunday edition. And that was for the sales ad's on those days my wife likes.
They have in the past even imported people from california during the boarder war issues a few years ago, to write the sob stories. Conservative it isn't.
Plus, they deleted some really good comic strips to replace with their junk.
Ron,

you have to admit, they ALWAYS loved an open border.

open borders are good for keeping wages low in :

  • agriculture
  • construction
  • hotels and golf courses


If that doesn't define the power structure in Arizona, I don't know what does.

Sycamore
Lets look at why.....


http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/

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She is intimately familiar with the challenges we face in our relations with Russia, China, the Middle East, North Korea and elsewhere. She’ll stand by our friends and she’s not afraid to confront our enemies.

Trump said President Obama and Hillary Clinton were “co-founders” of ISIS, then walked that back by saying it was sarcasm.

It was reckless

Trump mocked a reporter’s physical handicap. Picked a fight with a Gold Star family. Insulted POWs. Suggested a Latino judge can’t be fair because of his heritage. Proposed banning Muslim immigration.


Trump’s inability to control himself or be controlled by others represents a real threat to our national security. His recent efforts to stay on script are not reassuring. They are phony.


And what was your question?
Either flat wrong, "misquoted", or taken out of context.

A polite way to call bullshit on their so-called reasons.

Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Lets look at why.....


http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/

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She is intimately familiar with the challenges we face in our relations with Russia, China, the Middle East, North Korea and elsewhere. She’ll stand by our friends and she’s not afraid to confront our enemies.

Trump said President Obama and Hillary Clinton were “co-founders” of ISIS, then walked that back by saying it was sarcasm.

It was reckless

Trump mocked a reporter’s physical handicap. Picked a fight with a Gold Star family. Insulted POWs. Suggested a Latino judge can’t be fair because of his heritage. Proposed banning Muslim immigration.


Trump’s inability to control himself or be controlled by others represents a real threat to our national security. His recent efforts to stay on script are not reassuring. They are phony.


And what was your question?
Originally Posted by RGinther
Originally Posted by CCCC
CCCC - wake up !! Be honest. The Trump is NOT conservative.


I think this is what you meant


I have seen few if any here claim Trump was a Conservative but that isn't what is at issue here.

Good attempt at changing the subject.

Not really.

The undeniable fact is that no one in their right mind can view Hillary as a better choice than Trump except a Liberal.

PERIOD.
Shakespeare had it all wrong. The first thing we do is kill all the MSM journalists and reporters. grin
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
"...The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified....see Trump for what he is..."


Hillary has never had a public office that was attained by her own merit, every government job she's ever had was due to her association with Bill. Even then she's managed to screw up every public job she's been handed. It would be hard to imagine someone less qualified to be president than her, though Obama comes close. To somehow infer that Trump is less qualified to be president than Hillary is laughable.

As for Trump not being conservative, conservatives are the bunch that have knuckled under to Obama for the last eight years and allowed the country to fall into the schist sandwich it's in now. We don't need more so called conservatives, we need a radical reformer. I've had enough of "conservatives" that roll over and show their belly when Obama chastises them. I'm all for burning the place down & starting from scratch. That's the only thing that's going to save the U.S.
in the same article i pulled this link: http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/23/editorial-board-members/81497424/
that gives you the editorial board. They are a bunch of sucks.
in one article they admitted to pounding trump for over a year. One of them was born in mexico, benson is an excommunicated mormon and sraight wacko. Most are women. Valdez is married to a mexican mexican and has been a bleeding heart forever. The editorial board and it's bias locally has been one of the prime reasons i dropped my seven day a week delivery that i had since the 70's.
that paper has been bleeding circulation for years. The biggest lie of all is to call it conservative. Anything but.
And Yahoo chimes in, again labelling it as a 'conservative leaning' paper:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-paper-facing-threats-endorsing-hillary-clinton-214743986.html
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Either flat wrong, "misquoted", or taken out of context.

A polite way to call bullshit on their so-called reason
s.


You are now entering the TRUMP AONE! when confronted with actual facts always say things like "I never said that or NO NO NO No!"

Don't let facts ever get in the way of a good lie my man!
Stand up, stupid. My post went right over your head.
Rob, you confuse neocons claiming to be conservative with actual conservatives. Neocons are about as happy with establishment Democrats as they are with establishment Republicans. If it were Bush vs Clinton, they'd have a slight preference for Bush.

The main thing for them is that the candidate is beholden to Israel and organized Jewry. Beholden means they have to have something on the candidate to allow them to control him or her while in office. Typically, it's money.

They have no hooks in Trump, so they cannot tolerate him becoming president. Therefore they go with plan B, which is the other Party they control, i.e., the Democrats.
Originally Posted by bigfish9684
Carly! Carly! Carly!


Remember when she was running for vice president? That was awesome.
Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by bigfish9684
Carly! Carly! Carly!


Remember when she was running for vice president? That was awesome.
Carly: "The first thing I'm going to do when I take office is call my good friend Bibi and ask him for my marching orders."
Arizona is VERY close to turning Blue.

Neocons are Conservatives. They simply believe in the US exerting it's power throughout the world.

Otherwise, Neocons and Conservatives are cut from the same cloth.
Originally Posted by Harry M
Arizona is VERY close to turning Blue.

Neocons are Conservatives. They simply believe in the US exerting it's power throughout the world.

Otherwise, Neocons and Conservatives are cut from the same cloth.
You obviously don't know what a conservative is.
There are no conservatives, mainly neo-cons, which is why this Country is fugged up. The Republican's, mainly neo-cons, have sold themselves as whores and are directly responsible for Donald Trump.
I'm sure that all the illegals in Mexico don't have any influence on the color of Arizona.
Originally Posted by Harry M
There are no conservatives, mainly neo-cons, which is why this Country is fugged up. The Republican's, mainly neo-cons, have sold themselves as whores and are directly responsible for Donald Trump.
Conservatism is about decentralized government, states rights, strict construction of the Constitution, rule of law, small central government, central government minding its own business as to the American people and as to the internal affairs of foreign nations, non-debt spending, balanced budgets, sound currency, etc.. None of that resonates with the neocons currently disguising themselves under the "conservative" name.
Actually that is Libertarian.

Always interestin when i see a guy from some state i wouldn't want to even cross through like mass. is telling me what arizona is or isn't.
The major problem that we have is an infestation of cockroaches from california.
I can handle the mexicans, a lot of my family have lineage that way.
Californicators are a different story.
pendejo.
The usa today went against trump today, surprise. owned by the same corporate parent as the repulsive.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Rob, you confuse neocons claiming to be conservative with actual conservatives. Neocons are about as happy with establishment Democrats as they are with establishment Republicans. If it were Bush vs Clinton, they'd have a slight preference for Bush.

The main thing for them is that the candidate is beholden to Israel and organized Jewry. Beholden means they have to have something on the candidate to allow them to control him or her while in office. Typically, it's money.

They have no hooks in Trump, so they cannot tolerate him becoming president. Therefore they go with plan B, which is the other Party they control, i.e., the Democrats.


you ignore the reality that his Daughter married a Jew ! Trumps been infiltrated and he will bend for them as have many before !!
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Originally Posted by Harry M
Actually that is Libertarian.

No it isn't. It's what the icons of conservatism were promoting prior to the neocon takeover of the name.
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