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I do not care where the best people for the job built their resume as long as the are the best people for the job at hand. However, I still remember how Ted Cruz was crucified on Campfire because his wife had worked at Goldman Sachs...


Posted on HOT AIR, November 29, 2016 by Allahpundit: As expected: Trump to name Steven Mnuchin Secretary of the Treasury
For a moment earlier today, it looked like the president of Goldman Sachs had entered the picture as a dark-horse candidate for Treasury. Turns out it was a false alarm. We’re getting a guy who merely worked at Goldman for 17 years instead.
He’ll join Steve Bannon, another former Goldman employee, in the highest ranks of Trump’s administration, less than two months after Trump delivered a stemwinder on the trail aimed at Clinton for colluding with “international banks.” Consider this swamp drained...
Another butt-hurt, retarded Hillary voter exercising her freedom of speech.
The "Giant GS Squid" better watch her ass!
Wonder what Trump is using for bait.. laugh
“Mnuchin accrued a net worth estimated at about $40 million. while working for Goldman Sachs for 17 years, where his father had worked for three decades and had also made a fortune.”

Good for him. Mnuchin knows how to get things done. He is an Washington outsider with deep roots on Wall Street. He knows how Wall Street works.
I don't think Wall Street reform was as big of an issue for Trump as people wanted it to be. It was certainly a liberal issue.

I think he will get pushback for bringing in a Goldman Sachs person since Hank Paulson was as well.

I certainly would prefer he not.
Someone must think something is Positive with Mnuchin as
FNMA And FMCC are up about 30% as of now .
More money
I'm gonna give him a chance. He deserves a benefit of a doubt.

I'm not interested in political bluster. I'm only interested in results.

He has his chance. I hope he doesn't fugg it up.
I trust he will do well.
Well 'SNIFFER, what did Me-agyn have to say about it? We need her to report so you can decide and report to us what the FOX News is blowing up your hoohah.
Stop, just stop.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Stop, just stop.


Stop what?
Trump was never going to be able to resist the sweet talking from Goldman Sachs.......

A bit surprised after Hillary was booted out of the Bed that Donald would jump straight in.

Waitin for 4ager to tell me how his man is diff from the bitch now LMFAO !!!
Forbes says Mnuchin worked/works for Soros. Imagine.
Originally Posted by RGinther
Trump was never going to be able to resist the sweet talking from Goldman Sachs.......

A bit surprised after Hillary was booted out of the Bed that Donald would jump straight in.

Waitin for 4ager to tell me how his man is diff from the bitch now LMFAO !!!


Go away little girl!
He is the third Goldman Sachs boss to get the top Treasury job in 3 decades.....

Trumps has let Wall Street straight back in as the Democratics would have under Hilary.

So much for change Trumpkins, Im pissing myself with laughter

Cmon 1 of you punks tell me again how you got your man who was gunna chamge the system ...
.
Originally Posted by RGinther
He is the third Goldman Sachs boss to get the top Treasury job in 3 decades.....

Trumps has let Wall Street straight back in as the Democratics would have under Hilary.

So much for change Trumpkins, Im pissing myself with laughter

Cmon 1 of you punks tell me again how you got your man who was gunna chamge the system ...
.


Go away little girl!
Trumps chief strategist is ex Goldman and the guy most likely to get the treasury deputy role is also Goldman Sachs.

They have Donald by the short n curlies LMFAO
amazing when you want a business person in to try to help run things, instead of a politician, who generally hasn't a clue how to build/run/maintain and especailly keep things in the black, how few grains of sand it takes to irritate a pussy.
Originally Posted by RGinther
Trumps chief strategist is ex Goldman and the guy most likely to get the treasury deputy role is also Goldman Sachs.

They have Donald by the short n curlies LMFAO


Go away little girl!
Originally Posted by rost495
amazing when you want a business person in to try to help run things, instead of a politician, who generally hasn't a clue how to build/run/maintain ANYTHING and especailly keep things in the black, how few grains of sand it takes to irritate a pussy.


Added one word. laugh
After 8pm, it's past Cindy Ginthers bedtime. Night Cindy.
So Lightning your happy now that Donald has done a complete backflip and installed Goldman Sachs cronies in key financial and strategic position !!

Something he said he would eliminate thu out his campaign, these guys are the Anti Christ to the small guys, coal miners, rednecks, rural folk and honest hard workers who voted him in !

Youre a Punk lightning and now Im just waiting for 4ager to justify this backflip, should be spectacular LMFAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vST61W4bGm8
Originally Posted by RGinther
So Lightning your happy now that Donald has done a complete backflip and installed Goldman Sachs cronies in key financial and strategic position !!

Something he said he would eliminate thu out his campaign, these guys are the Anti Christ to the small guys, coal miners, rednecks, rural folk and honest hard workers who voted him in !

Youre a Punk lightning and now Im just waiting for 4ager to justify this backflip, should be spectacular LMFAO


In the future, try pecking out your scattered ramblings in Queens's English.
is that all ya got add ??

ya dont wont to defend Donald ?

Where the ph.u.c.k is 4ager, come out come out where ever you are........
Most of the picks he has made, are crony capitalists, billionaires, people hellbent on privatizing everything, Wall Street bankers and lobbyist..


But don`t worry.. they have now all changed their minds, and are now working on making America great again.
Remember Timothy Geithner that Obama nominated for Sec Treas?

It turned out he had not paid his back taxes.

Obama doubled down and said he was the only man that could do the job.

What sinks worse for a guy who runs the IRS, not paying taxes or took a pay check from Goldman Sachs?

[Linked Image]

Louise Linton, 34, is engaged to Steven Mnuchin.

Maybe Steve needed that paycheck to buy her a diamond ring.
Lets review:


  • Goldman Sachs employee
  • Hollywood Money Guy
  • Made a bundle with a failed bank, foreclosing on homes


Trifecta!
Not to forget Mnuchin, worked for Soros, running a wealth fund for him, got backing from Soros to start his own fund, and bought a bank, again with Soros.. then started forclosing on homes.


And lets not forget his new Commerce Secretary.. who lead the rothschild bankruptcy pratice for 25 years.


Originally Posted by Northman
Not to forget Mnuchin, worked for Soros, running a wealth fund for him, got backing from Soros to start his own fund, and bought a bank, again with Soros.. then started forclosing on homes.


And lets not forget his new Commerce Secretary.. who lead the rothschild bankruptcy pratice for 25 years.




Re: Mnuchin and foreclosures - here are some facts:

IndyBank, operating under Dodd-Frank that the left pushed through, made loans to people who could not afford them. The housing market turned, and those people who were over-extended started missing payments. IndyBank went into FDIC receivership, triggering the housing market bubble to burst due to the mortgage-backed securities horsechit created by Dodd-Frank.

AFTER, IndyBank goes into receivership, Mnuchin assembles a team of investors. The alleged investments by Soros are just that; alleged, with no factual basis yet uncovered supporting them. The Mnuchin-led investment group BOUGHT IndyBank out of receivership, renamed it One West Bank, and ACTING PRUDENTLY, foreclosed on over-extended, behind-payment mortgages, protecting the bank's assets and those of the shareholders. The bank was later sold for a $1.4B profit. Those foreclosed upon properties were NOT transferred to FDIC ownership, protecting the U.S. taxpayer from that eventuality had the Mnuchin group not bought IndyBank.

What were they supposed to do, socialist (Northman); allow people who were not meeting their financial obligation to remain in homes they could no longer afford and thereby give them either .gov or private welfare for making bad investments? That would not only be bad business, and bad for the U.S. taxpayer, it would also be very, very stupid.

If you want to start placing blame for the foreclosures, start FIRST with the people who borrowed more than they could afford, and SECOND with Dodd-Frank for creating and in fact forcing that situation. To blame a group of investors who protected not only the U.S. taxpayer from bailing out the mortgage-holders but also the private investors who turned around a failed bank is idiotic (though, it is patently socialist).
Odd that the socialists are up in arms about Goldmann Sachs NOW, and not when Slick Willie had a GS alum running the Treasury, nor when Hitlery was being paid handsomely by them and they were funding her campaign. Hmmm...
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Lets review:


  • Goldman Sachs employee
  • Hollywood Money Guy
  • Made a bundle with a failed bank, foreclosing on homes


Trifecta!


You guys have made valid points. My point remains. He gets things done.
Says he can accomplish what Trump wants done.
Re: Wilbur Ross - Bill Daley, Slick Willie's former Commerce Secretary calls Ross "a really good choice". He built his own private equity firm, which he sold to Invesco. He created another investment company that specializes in the rehabilitation of distressed asset businesses, primarily metals, energy, and mining, and is a lead advocate for renegotiating trade agreements (based upon his experience renegotiating debt obligations, which is what he did as a Chapter 11 - not Chapter 7 - bankruptcy specialist).

Facts just tear socialists up, and no doubt Northman and Sycamore will be a-twitter about these two picks.

Of course, they were DEAD silent about Hussein's choices of Timmy "I don't pay my taxes; and please don't look at where money went during my tenure in NYS gov't" Geithner, or Jack "I helped Citi get the .gov bailout" Lew for Treasury, or of Penny "my family made money off of foreclosures and failed banks, and off of bankrupt hotels" Pritzker for Commerce Secretary. Hmmm...
Well, calling names gets us nowhere, you fascist ( 4ager ).

Avoid the facts; it's the only play you have.
Originally Posted by Northman
Well, calling names gets us nowhere, you fascist ( 4ager ).



Cheeky.

But I notice when someone raises valid counter points to you, or any of the other critics, they never get addressed in a cognizant manner.

Why is that?
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by Northman
Not to forget Mnuchin, worked for Soros, running a wealth fund for him, got backing from Soros to start his own fund, and bought a bank, again with Soros.. then started forclosing on homes.


And lets not forget his new Commerce Secretary.. who lead the rothschild bankruptcy pratice for 25 years.




Re: Mnuchin and foreclosures - here are some facts:

IndyBank, operating under Dodd-Frank that the left pushed through, made loans to people who could not afford them. The housing market turned, and those people who were over-extended started missing payments. IndyBank went into FDIC receivership, triggering the housing market bubble to burst due to the mortgage-backed securities horsechit created by Dodd-Frank.

AFTER, IndyBank goes into receivership, Mnuchin assembles a team of investors. The alleged investments by Soros are just that; alleged, with no factual basis yet uncovered supporting them. The Mnuchin-led investment group BOUGHT IndyBank out of receivership, renamed it One West Bank, and ACTING PRUDENTLY, foreclosed on over-extended, behind-payment mortgages, protecting the bank's assets and those of the shareholders. The bank was later sold for a $1.4B profit. Those foreclosed upon properties were NOT transferred to FDIC ownership, protecting the U.S. taxpayer from that eventuality had the Mnuchin group not bought IndyBank.

What were they supposed to do, socialist (Northman); allow people who were not meeting their financial obligation to remain in homes they could no longer afford and thereby give them either .gov or private welfare for making bad investments? That would not only be bad business, and bad for the U.S. taxpayer, it would also be very, very stupid.

If you want to start placing blame for the foreclosures, start FIRST with the people who borrowed more than they could afford, and SECOND with Dodd-Frank for creating and in fact forcing that situation. To blame a group of investors who protected not only the U.S. taxpayer from bailing out the mortgage-holders but also the private investors who turned around a failed bank is idiotic (though, it is patently socialist).





Great explanation but I fear it is wasted on some here.
And I find it amusing that we, who did not vote on trump (or hillary), should be mad about what slick willy did, what 20 years ago.

Where was the internett.. showing us what crap they where up to?

Now we have the net.. and can find out ourselves the things both sides have done, which is totaly F uped!


The fact is, he is putting wall street buddies, crony captialists, and establishment players in key goverment positions.


But, I guess they must all have seen the light.. and decided to work for the common man.. and not themselves anymore.

Ha.
Originally Posted by Northman
And I find it amusing that we, who did not vote on trump (or hillary), should be mad about what slick willy did, what 20 years ago.

Where was the internett.. showing us what crap they where up to?

Now we have the net.. and can find out ourselves the things both sides have done, which is totaly F uped!


The fact is, he is putting wall street buddies, crony captialists, and establishment players in key goverment positions.


But, I guess they must all have seen the light.. and decided to work for the common man.. and not themselves anymore.

Ha.


The internet existed then - many of us used it for research then as now (though slower with dial-up being the method then), as did the media and journalists (you know, those people who are SUPPOSED to investigate things and print them?).

Oddly, we heard none of your screeching about Hussein's choices (as detailed). There is no screeching by you about the fact that both Mnuchin and Ross were heavy backers of Hussein and Hitlery in years past (buying favors, no doubt). You also avoid facts that undermine your bogus claims against Mnuchin or Ross.

Keep avoiding the facts; it remains the only play you have.
I just have to ask.. if I should not trust information from the US goverment.. nor should I trust the MSM..

Where do I get news and facts from? Where do you?
Did Northman just throw the "ignorance" card?
Originally Posted by Northman
I just have to ask.. if I should not trust information from the US goverment.. nor should I trust the MSM..

Where do I get news and facts from? Where do you?


Facts remain facts; whether you continue to ignore them or not. It's still your only play, even if it continues to make you look foolish.
Originally Posted by RWE
Did Northman just throw the "ignorance" card?


It's apparently carved on his forehead...
Some people cant accept that trump is doing the same thing as obama did.. Rolled over to the actual people with power.
Originally Posted by Northman
Some people cant accept that trump is doing the same thing as obama did.. Rolled over to the actual people with power.


Some folks only complain now; hint. If you said nothing then, and you didn't, then saying anything now is hypocritical at best.
I supported Ron Paul in 2008..

To say I was sorry that Obama won is a understatement..

I was just amazed that the Republican party would run McCain.

Originally Posted by Northman
Some people cant accept that trump is doing the same thing as obama did.. Rolled over to the actual people with power.


It remains to be seen what the people under Trump do.

Do they use their super powers for good or evil?

Not everyone is guided by a moral compass, like you, perhaps?

Unfortunately, that's life.

If there were an abundance of really great, moral people, than the primary's would have looked different, and Hillary wouldn't have even been on the ticket.
Originally Posted by Northman
I supported Ron Paul in 2008..

To say I was sorry that Obama won is a understatement..

I was just amazed that the Republican party would run McCain.



None of that has anything to do with your absolute silence in critiquing Hussein or Hitlery. You were silent then, and silent on them; to be otherwise now is at best hypocritical.
Does seem to me that it would be a good idea to have someone there who knows how to turn on the lights.
Question for Northman and his ilk - if Trump or whomever else that is in charge is not supposed to take people who have been successful in banking, investments, industry, and various other business endeavors to head of the Treasury and/or Commerce, who - exactly - are they supposed to pick?
Originally Posted by 4ager
Question for Northman and his ilk - if Trump or whomever else that is in charge is not supposed to take people who have been successful in banking, investments, industry, and various other business endeavors to head of the Treasury and/or Commerce, who - exactly - are they supposed to pick?


This is where the chronic squawkers will fall firmly on their flat noses. They only know how to complain but offer no alternative.

They can't accept the fact that the biggest money generally draws the top talent. Trump is very aware of this fact. Capitalism is based on individuals acting in their own self interest.

Don't expect an answer.
Is this Northman NWA's alter ego?
Originally Posted by Northman
I supported Ron Paul in 2008..



No further explanation needed.... Enjoy your freeze dried food, even lasagna and ice cream...
Seems a Goldman Sachs president & COO, Gary Cohn has been talking with trump for place in the new administration.
Sweet!
Originally Posted by Northman
Well, calling names gets us nowhere, you fascist ( 4ager ).




thats the most accurate assesement of the Punk who goes by name 4ager I yet seen on 24hrCF !!

Youve been sold a pup 4ager, call it Hillary lite if you like but Trumps doing the exact opposite of what he stated.
Originally Posted by 4ager
Question for Northman and his ilk - if Trump or whomever else that is in charge is not supposed to take people who have been successful in banking, investments, industry, and various other business endeavors to head of the Treasury and/or Commerce, who - exactly - are they supposed to pick?



Distract and Spin ! keepin on dribblin like a f.u.c.kin retard 4ager !!
Originally Posted by 4ager
Question for Northman and his ilk - if Trump or whomever else that is in charge is not supposed to take people who have been successful in banking, investments, industry, and various other business endeavors to head of the Treasury and/or Commerce, who - exactly - are they supposed to pick?


Crickets?
He should pick somebody like the 2 dolts above who cannot balance a checkbook. That will work out real well.DUH ED K
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Northman
I supported Ron Paul in 2008..



No further explanation needed.... Enjoy your freeze dried food, even lasagna and ice cream...


LOL
Ron Paul's ads for Harvest Right on the radio are for the Glenn Beck crowd.
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by 4ager
Question for Northman and his ilk - if Trump or whomever else that is in charge is not supposed to take people who have been successful in banking, investments, industry, and various other business endeavors to head of the Treasury and/or Commerce, who - exactly - are they supposed to pick?


Crickets?


you ask a stupid question and want answer LMFAO, Goldman Sachs does whats good for their Billionaire shareholers and when it goes to sheit they get the Public to bail em out !!
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
I do not care where the best people for the job built their resume as long as the are the best people for the job at hand. However, I still remember how Ted Cruz was crucified on Campfire because his wife had worked at Goldman Sachs...

I follow what you're saying but you know anytime you put the names Cruz and Trump in the same post on this forum is like sticking your face into a wood chipper.
Originally Posted by edk
He should pick somebody like the 2 dolts above who cannot balance a checkbook. That will work out real well.DUH ED K


Agreed. The same can be said about putting some big city [bleep] in charge of the Dept of Agriculture or Interior.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
I do not care where the best people for the job built their resume as long as the are the best people for the job at hand. However, I still remember how Ted Cruz was crucified on Campfire because his wife had worked at Goldman Sachs...



Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
I do not care where the best people for the job built their resume as long as the are the best people for the job at hand. However, I still remember how Ted Cruz was crucified on Campfire because his wife had worked at Goldman Sachs...

I follow what you're saying but you know anytime you put the names Cruz and Trump in the same post on this forum is like sticking your face into a wood chipper.


What I posted was the truth about Cruz and Trump.
Originally Posted by 4ager
Re: Wilbur Ross - Bill Daley, Slick Willie's former Commerce Secretary calls Ross "a really good choice". He built his own private equity firm, which he sold to Invesco. He created another investment company that specializes in the rehabilitation of distressed asset businesses, primarily metals, energy, and mining, and is a lead advocate for renegotiating trade agreements (based upon his experience renegotiating debt obligations, which is what he did as a Chapter 11 - not Chapter 7 - bankruptcy specialist).

Facts just tear socialists up, and no doubt Northman and Sycamore will be a-twitter about these two picks.

Of course, they were DEAD silent about Hussein's choices of Timmy "I don't pay my taxes; and please don't look at where money went during my tenure in NYS gov't" Geithner, or Jack "I helped Citi get the .gov bailout" Lew for Treasury, or of Penny "my family made money off of foreclosures and failed banks, and off of bankrupt hotels" Pritzker for Commerce Secretary. Hmmm...


So..you've convinced me. Trumps cabinet is the moral equivalent of Obama and Clintons cabinet. Pretty low bar.

funny how ytou're cheerleading now, when you were horrified before.

Same old/Same old...at least you voted for change!

Sycamore
Originally Posted by Sycamore

So..you've convinced me. Trumps cabinet is the moral equivalent of Obama and Clintons cabinet. Pretty low bar.
Sycamore


I would conclude just the opposite. Obama is the worst President in the history of the country and all Trump's cabinet choices show he is an improvement, reminiscent of Reagan following Carter.
Originally Posted by Clarkm
Originally Posted by Sycamore

So..you've convinced me. Trumps cabinet is the moral equivalent of Obama and Clintons cabinet. Pretty low bar.
Sycamore


I would conclude just the opposite. Obama is the worst President in the history of the country and all Trump's cabinet choices show he is an improvement, reminiscent of Reagan following Carter.


So far, it s like watching a Reagan rerun.Works for me.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 4ager
Re: Wilbur Ross - Bill Daley, Slick Willie's former Commerce Secretary calls Ross "a really good choice". He built his own private equity firm, which he sold to Invesco. He created another investment company that specializes in the rehabilitation of distressed asset businesses, primarily metals, energy, and mining, and is a lead advocate for renegotiating trade agreements (based upon his experience renegotiating debt obligations, which is what he did as a Chapter 11 - not Chapter 7 - bankruptcy specialist).

Facts just tear socialists up, and no doubt Northman and Sycamore will be a-twitter about these two picks.

Of course, they were DEAD silent about Hussein's choices of Timmy "I don't pay my taxes; and please don't look at where money went during my tenure in NYS gov't" Geithner, or Jack "I helped Citi get the .gov bailout" Lew for Treasury, or of Penny "my family made money off of foreclosures and failed banks, and off of bankrupt hotels" Pritzker for Commerce Secretary. Hmmm...


So..you've convinced me. Trumps cabinet is the moral equivalent of Obama and Clintons cabinet. Pretty low bar.

funny how ytou're cheerleading now, when you were horrified before.

Same old/Same old...at least you voted for change!

Sycamore


It's pretty easy to show your hypocrisy. You were silent then, and whining now.

On Geithner, I didn't have a problem with him being from Goldmann. My problem was with him acting as though he was above the law and Hussein pushing that through. On Pritzker, I doubt I made any comments at all then, but it's ironic how she and hers made her money when the left is full of "moral outrage" about similar situations today.

The question stands, to Northman, Sycamore, and their ilk - if Trump, or any other POTUS, is not supposed to pick people who have been successful in business, finance, investments, etc., to head of the Treasury or Commerce then who - exactly - are they supposed to pick?
Maybe he should pick some who has voiced concerns about Wall Street, Lobbyist, Banks, Endles wars in the ME? Somebody who wants to "drain the swamp".. Somebody who belives and fights for the same things Trump ran his campaign on?


As of now he is picking people of the status quo.. people who for years has had no interest in doing so.


Maybe if they suddenly grows a conscience, and changes their minds.. I might start listening to him. As of now, actions speaks louder then words.
Originally Posted by Northman
Maybe he should pick some who has voiced concerns about Wall Street, Lobbyist, Banks, Endles wars in the ME? Somebody who wants to "drain the swamp".. Somebody who belives and fights for the same things Trump ran his campaign on?


As of now he is picking people of the status quo.. people who for years has had no interest in doing so.


Maybe if they suddenly grows a conscience, and changes their minds.. I might start listening to him. As of now, actions speaks louder then words.


Where would such a person come from, if they could not have been successful in business, investments, etc.? You're advocating beliefs, not experience; I'm asking about experience.
Why does everbody need to come from business? Or have made billions in the system that benefitted them?


There are republican and democrats that hates lobbyiests with a passion?

There are republican and democrats that hates endless wars?

There are republican or democrats that puts america first.. and stops spending trillinons interfering with other countries?


Those are better picks..


I think we all agree, that money in politics is the WORST thing for America. As it stops those in power of listening to the citizens needs.
It isn't possible to remove money from politics....or anything else for that matter. Never will.

Socialists and communists tried....for everyone except the ruling elite which is what you end up with under your hairbrained notion of "fairness".,and how things work.

Someone comes along and promises to remove the "inequality" of wealth and income distribution you better run the other way.,cause you're going to get a totalitarian regime. Bank on it.

Don't be naive, but I suspect it's already too late for you.
You know.. there aint Left and Right, Republican and Democrat, Facism - Communism

There is something inbetween. And most peoples belifes are inbetween.


As you can see in my tagline, America at the moment:

Socialism for big corporations ( or donors ) and military industrial complex

&

Rugged individualism ( or capitalism ) for the individual.



So, you are advocating for a President to nominate for Secretary of the Treasury, to oversee the monetary policies and budgeting of the nation, a person with no track record in business, finance, or investments?

You are advocating for a President to nominate for Secretary of Commerce, to oversee the regulations of interstate trade and to set domestic and international trade policy for the purposes and benefit of the nation, a person with no track record in business, finance, or trade?

Where would these mythical people who have no experience in the subject matter, but who are immensely qualified to lead the largest economy in the world, actually come from?

Would you likewise ask that a POTUS nominate for Surgeon General a person with no experience in the medical profession or public health?

I realize that it is one of your red herrings and that it has absolutely nothing to do with the positions of Sec. of Treasury or Commerce, but you keep prattling on about "wars"; the Secretaries of Commerce and the Treasury have nothing to do with military policy or defense - it is not their job. Further, nothing is known of (nor is it relevant) the positions of the nominees for these positions on any wars in the ME or elsewhere. It is an intellectually dishonest attempt on your part to insert that horsechit into a discussion of the nominees for Secretary of Commerce and Treasury.
Originally Posted by Northman
You know.. there aint Left and Right, Republican and Democrat, Facism - Communism

There is something inbetween. And most peoples belifes are inbetween.


As you can see in my tagline, America at the moment:

Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex

&

Rugged individualism ( or capitalism ) for the individual.





Irrelevant horsechit. Address the actual topic at hand; meaningless pablum won't cut it.
Fact: Goldman Sachs hires really smart people not academics that would have trouble budgeting and running a boy scout troop.
OK.

He picks and is going to pick more Goldman Sachs employees for key goverment positions.

Are they all going to turn their backs on millions and billions of dollars in future profit, for the benefit of the American people?


Or are they going to do, excatly as they have done for the last 20-30 years. Serve their own best interests.


Originally Posted by Northman
OK.

He picks and is going to pick more Goldman Sachs employees for key goverment positions.

Are they all going to turn their backs on millions and billions of dollars in future profit, for the benefit of the American people?


Or are they going to do, excatly as they have done for the last 20-30 years. Serve their own best interests.


If you listen to fools, the mob rules.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Fact: Goldman Sachs hires really smart people not academics that would have trouble budgeting and running a boy scout troop.


Exactly.

The laws of economics do not understand politics, Left, Right, socialist,communist, etc. etc .

Stupid people like Democrats try to suspend those irrefutable laws of economics in the interest of "fairness", and "equality", just like no-score soccer games.

Useless dopes fall for it. Most politicians are dopes who could not cut it in the private sector....not all....but many.

We already let those dopes try...look what they did.
Originally Posted by Northman
Why does everbody need to come from business?



Because that's where the most qualified people come from.
Originally Posted by Northman
OK.

He picks and is going to pick more Goldman Sachs employees for key goverment positions.

Are they all going to turn their backs on millions and billions of dollars in future profit, for the benefit of the American people?


Or are they going to do, excatly as they have done for the last 20-30 years. Serve their own best interests.



Sorry, wrong questions and wrong answers.

Where, exactly, are the mythical people you want who have no experience but are qualified to run Commerce and the Treasury going to come from?
A politician is elected to do the bidding of the people. ( IN the general term )


Why does most politicians/presidents turn right around and sells out the American people with bad policies.

Because business pays them more, once in office.


And banks / wall street has the deepest pockets.
Originally Posted by Northman
A politician is elected to do the bidding of the people. ( IN the general term )


Why does most politicians/presidents turn right around and sells out the American people with bad policies.

Because business pays them more, once in office.


And banks / wall street has the deepest pockets.


Keep avoiding the questions posed to you and shrieking the same tired pablum; it really is the only play you have.
4ager: sorry. I answerd your question. This is a post on GS and White House. I answerd that.

I can´t name names, who he should pick. Trump is a smart man, and ran a campaign on kicking WS and the estambliment in the face. Why is he hiring them?

Originally Posted by Northman
A politician is elected to do the bidding of the people. ( IN the general term )




Let's take this one bit, which is the truth, and with it show that you have destroyed your own "position".

A POTUS is elected to lead the nation and do so in the best interest of the people. That's what they are supposed to do.

In doing so, they are obligated to nominate people to lead each Department and Agencies who will do the best job possible again in the best interest of the people. Part of that obligation, just as it is in business, is to "hire" the best qualified candidate in the interest of the shareholders (in this instance, the shareholders are the people of the United States).

So, here are the choices:

Candidate A for Secretary of the Treasury is a graduate of the top schools of finance and business. "A" has an extensive track record of success at the top investment firms and banks in the world, with increasing levels of leadership and responsibility and is regarded within those sectors as one of the best minds in the business. "A" has also lead investment groups that have bought out failed businesses, turned them around to profitability, and made billions for their shareholders.

Candidate B for Secretary of the Treasury has degrees in liberal studies and humanities. "B" has been an academic throughout their career and is a social critic of business and capitalist economic policy, but has no experience in the sectors of finance, investments, banking, trade, or commerce. "B" has written op-eds and white papers on numerous issues.

Now, as a shareholder, which of THOSE two candidates would you want hired to run the Treasury of the United States of America? If it were a business, whether for-profit or non-profit, which of those candidates would you want hired to run the finance department?

Originally Posted by Northman
4ager: sorry. I answerd your question. This is a post on GS and White House. I answerd that.

I can´t name names, who he should pick. Trump is a smart man, and ran a campaign on kicking WS and the estambliment in the face. Why is he hiring them?



Really? WHERE, exactly, did you answer the question about where - exactly - those mythical people who cannot have any experience or track record of success in business, finance, investments, etc., come from that would be qualified to lead Treasury or Commerce? Please quote your post on that, as I must have missed it.
There are two things that jump out at me Northman. First, the OP is an assclown. He did nothing but run Trump down along with several of his cronies. When you come on here partnered up with somebody like that, then you get labeled as another assclown.

The more I read your posts, the more you seem legit. The second thing is, you don't score points by bringing up Ron Paul. A lot of us on here originally were very much in Ron's camp. Now Ron comes off more like a bitter old hack who sees many of his ideas usurped by others. While I believe credit should be given him, he could have gotten on the Trump train and possibly be being considered for a Cabinet position. Instead he did everything he could to derail Trump's Presidency having to know that a Hillary Presidency would probably have resulted in Civil War.

I have grave concerns about GS cronies being in high level cabinet positions but unless you have something to replace the Fed with, ready-to-go, then you are going to crash the whole economy. Rand is more pragmatic than his dad to some that appears more "sold-out". It's difficult to tell whether Rand is going to be a constant critic of Trump or work with him.

I can tell you from firsthand experience that a Libertarian economy won't work. It has been tried in Kansas and the results were disasterous.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
I do not care where the best people for the job built their resume as long as the are the best people for the job at hand. However, I still remember how Ted Cruz was crucified on Campfire because his wife had worked at Goldman Sachs...


He was crucified because his senate campaign was financed by Goldman Sachs and his wife wanted an American version of the European Union.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Fact: Goldman Sachs hires really smart people not academics that would have trouble budgeting and running a boy scout troop.


Fact: I don't disagree, but you were on the opposite page a few months ago.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Fact: Goldman Sachs hires really smart people not academics that would have trouble budgeting and running a boy scout troop.


Fact: I don't disagree, but you were on the opposite page a few months ago.


uh-oh, somebodies paying attention! grin

Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Fact: Goldman Sachs hires really smart people not academics that would have trouble budgeting and running a boy scout troop.


Fact: I don't disagree, but you were on the opposite page a few months ago.


I don't like Goldman Sachs and how it manipulates things for sure. Is this guy going to listen to Trump or Goldman Sachs? He is working for Trump.
Originally Posted by 4ager
Odd that the socialists are up in arms about Goldmann Sachs NOW, and not when Slick Willie had a GS alum running the Treasury, nor when Hitlery was being paid handsomely by them and they were funding her campaign. Hmmm...


That fact is so [bleep] lost on these idiots.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Fact: Goldman Sachs hires really smart people not academics that would have trouble budgeting and running a boy scout troop.


Fact: I don't disagree, but you were on the opposite page a few months ago.


uh-oh, somebodies paying attention! grin



It damned sure ain't you.
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by Northman
4ager: sorry. I answerd your question. This is a post on GS and White House. I answerd that.

I can´t name names, who he should pick. Trump is a smart man, and ran a campaign on kicking WS and the estambliment in the face. Why is he hiring them?



Really? WHERE, exactly, did you answer the question about where - exactly - those mythical people who cannot have any experience or track record of success in business, finance, investments, etc., come from that would be qualified to lead Treasury or Commerce? Please quote your post on that, as I must have missed it.


Do we have an answer as to where these mythical people are supposed to come from yet?
So if you want to regulate brothels, you hire an old madam?
Crickets from Northman?

Hmmm...
thats probably because you keep on shfting your position as Donalds shifts his promises LMFAO !!
Where's Northman? Has he found the location of the mythical beings yet?
Originally Posted by 4ager
Where's Northman? Has he found the location of the mythical beings yet?


You still here?
Originally Posted by Northman
Why does everbody need to come from business? Or have made billions in the system that benefitted them?


There are republican and democrats that hates lobbyiests with a passion?

There are republican and democrats that hates endless wars?

There are republican or democrats that puts america first.. and stops spending trillinons interfering with other countries?


Those are better picks..


I think we all agree, that money in politics is the WORST thing for America. As it stops those in power of listening to the citizens needs.


Name them, please.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by 4ager
Where's Northman? Has he found the location of the mythical beings yet?


You still here?


Still laughing at you, SEATSNIFFER.
Everyone is laffin at him.
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