With recounts in three states (46 electoral votes) having to be certified by 12/13/16, is it possible that those 46 votes will NOT count when the electors meet 12/19/16?

If the 46 votes DON'T count, doesn't that lower the electoral count to 492? Trump would still have 260 to the c*nt's 232. Trump still wins, no?

Is Stein hoping the 46 votes don't count and that 30 electors will switch votes to the c*nt? Of the 50 states, how many states have laws stating the electors MUST vote for whomever carried that state?

Help me guys, is there anyway the libtards are going to steal this election? Find 40k votes in someone's trunk in PA? Retally MI and come up with 12k c*nt votes.

Ease my mind.

Not unless they want the killin' to start.

No

No.

I know of MI, WI .... what is the third State?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...nsylvania-judge-blocks-recount-petitions

Very doubtful anything will change.

FYI - there is a also group filing a lawsuit to contest the vote count in FL too.

https://protectourelections.nationbuilder.com/florida_recount

Once again, very doubtful anything will change.

WI, MI, PA If you add it up, they'd have to reverse all 3 for Hillary to win, or at least PA & WI. If a couple states didn't finish by Dec 13 and Trump didn't have the 270, it would go to the house where Trump should win easily.
I think this is a ploy to hopefully prevent the states from completing their count before 12/13 so their electoral votes won't count.

If it gets to the house, each state gets 1 vote. They'd have to choose between Trump, Clinton, and Johnson. There will be some battles there. 3 states, NH, NJ, and ME, have an equal number of R & D reps so they'd have to decide which candidate gets their 1 vote. It really won't matter, though, as 33 states have R majorities while only 14 states have D majorities. Trump by a landslide. It's possible that some R states would defect to Johnson but certainly not enough to let Trump lose.

LOL

This whole recount thing is only to try to make it seem like Trump is not the legitimate president. It's just a psychological game they are playing. That's why you see a headline every day in the news about how Hillary supposedly won the popular vote, which is also debatable but doesn't matter. They're mourning and looking for ways to make themselves feel better about their loss.

Thanks Rock Chuck, Outlaw & others. I DO feel better about it. What you last posted Outlaw makes sense.

^^^This^^^

I think those behind the recount efforts desire to go to any length to keep trump from assuming office. They're definitely not just trying to queer the deal.

Not just NO but Hell NO!

No way no how! Jill Stein is more idiotic than select ones here at the Fire, which says a lot.

POTUS Trump is solid as a rock!!

There is no mathematical path to the white house besides for anyone but Trump. This truly is a con to walk away with millions of other folks money. A pretty successful one too.

Kent

It is nothing more than a way for the pampered and entitled mass of sore losers to throw dirt and delegitimize Trumps presidency by hoping to have NYT types throw phrases out like "questionable victory" etc... for the next few years so that libs can continue the delusion of victimhood and evilness of conservatives. It is their rallying cry and all they have.

Back to the OP. The answer to this is that I'm guessing it would end up in front of the SCOTUS. The 12th Amendment requires a majority of the EC votes. The question would be whether that's a majority of the ballots cast or a majority of the possible electoral votes from ALL states. The 12th Amend doesn't mention whether all states must vote but you can bet that there would be lawsuits either way.

If neither had a majority, it would go to the house where they'd choose between the top 3 electoral vote getters: Trump, Clinton, and nobody. There is no 3 place since no one else got an electoral vote. Each state gets 1 vote so each state would have to decide who gets it. 3 states have equal numbers of R & D reps so that could be a battle royal. All other states are unbalanced. The R's have a majority in 33 states and the D's in 14 so most likely, Trump would win by at least a 2 to 1 margin.
I love this system because us little states get as many votes in the house as big bad CA and NY. Our 2 red reps can nullify a sea of blue from CA. Yeah!

Good point about why it would go to SCOTUS, Rock Chuck. The constitution says "if the number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed", do states appoint electors before the vote tally for their state is finalized, or after, or does that vary from one state to another?

With a split court, even that may not be final; maybe that is what the left is thinking of, to put pressure on congress to approve O's pick for justice.

(Hypotheticals rendered moot by court order in PA)

Well it appears the Pa recount is not going to happen.

only in their dreams....

the Clintoon Road Show is toast...

Yup. That would be the event that starts the scalp collecting.

Agreed. I think we have been dangerously close to that point for some time, all that's needed is a spark.

Just a seedy attempt at fund raising for the next election.

Dems never do anything but campaign.

Trump will be in the White House.

The libs are just in denial and grasping at straws. I don't believe they have some master plan.

I don't trust a lot of the electors. In the States that do not have commitments for the electors to vote for the winner. Those people, the ones getting the death threats from the liberals, better not cave in or go RINO on this deal.

First time in years we have had any discussion about the electoral college. Those libs are sore losers but still losers.

Lots of theories out there on what the Democrats are up to with this recount.

It is a given that they cannot find enough votes in all three States to give Hillary the needed 270 Electoral votes.

So, why the recount as it will not change the results?

One theory is to delay the results so as to deny Trump 270 so the House votes for the President and the Senate votes for the Vice President. Of the 50 votes cast in the House some say that there are enough Democrats and Anti-Trump Republicans to give Hillary the needed 26 votes. Long Shot, but a shot non the less.

Another theory is to cast doubt in the eyes of the American public on the legitimacy of a Trump Presidency. If the election comes down to a "Republican" House selecting the President and not the people, all hell will brake loose. On the other hand if the Republicans and Trump are successful in their efforts to stop the recount in PA by legal means, that will cast enormous doubt as to his legitimacy and the Media will have a field day with the,

"Trump files lawsuit to stop recount", "What does he have to hide, the American people want to know". and crap like that.

Another theory is that Stein is just taking $millions$ of dollars in donation to feather her own nest.

Then there is my theory, ready, get your tinfoil hat.

This recount is all smoke and mirrors and has nothing to do with this election, but everything to do with future elections. IMO the Democrats have been stealing elections for years, they are masters at it.

This is one reason why Democrats oppose voter ID requirements, etc.

They know where to look for fraud and they know where not to look, cuz they put it there. The recount will produce no change in vote count, the Democrats know this, that's why they picked "blue" states to recount as they didn't feel the need to cheat in these three States as it should have been in the bag.

There is a lot of chatter out there, now that we have a Republican Congress, a Republican President and a soon to be Conservative Supreme Court that the Feds will pass legislation requiring voter ID. As the Democrats need to cheat to win they can't afford this.

So, they engage in this phony recount that will show no fraud and no voting machine hacking. This will give them "Proof" and ammunition that voter ID is not needed and only a ploy by the Right to keep the poor and the repressed from voting.

It will work to. The poor and represses angle has worked in their favor in the past, add the results of this recount and there you have it, No Voter ID Required.

I agree with you to a point.

Everyone one knows how bad the system is abused in California. By the politicians , ILLEGAL Aliens and green card holders.

Trump will bring it up at some point in his term.
We actually stand a chance at getting a proper voter ID set up with Trump pushing both Republican Houses.
A slim chance but a chance.

My hope is that he can threaten the States that fight the Voter ID enough that they cave and do what is right for the country and not just what benefits the politicians for the corrupt elections.

Even Obummer was against them continuing with the recounts because he does not want them snooping to much into the known fraud.

I heard Stein chose not to pursue Pennsylvania due to a 1 Million $$ fee or deposit she would have to have paid. She said they couldn't afford it, even though they have received over 3X the money they needed for all 3 recounts. She must have found a house she can't live without. I hope someone keeps close track of that money, so the only house she lives in will have bars on the windows.

Anyway, with Penn out of the mix no way no how can the traitor win.

The PA ruling was by a state judge. Now Stein is pursuing it through federal courts. You can bet that she's judge shopping for a Bill Clinton or Obama appointee.

Stein and a shadowy Clinton are doing whatever they can to detract from Trumps' victory. Expect this and similar ploys for the next 4 years. If any state isn't done counting by 12-13-16, they no longer factor into the Electoral College vote.
Plus the magic number gets lowered commensurate to the states' electors.
EX. If 10 votes are missing due to a re-count, then the E/C # is 260.

Stein was on FNS with Chris Wallace and she talked over CW half the time.
She is a nut case of the highest order.
They ought to put Stein and the fake Indian Warren in a cage match as a charity event.

Even some democrats have come out and said "get over it".

She's Queen Moonbat. They revel in being so much more enlightened than we angry white men.

She doesn't realize just how angry we are and what she might bring down upon her and her cadre of little moonbats.

Any chance they'll manipulate the electors and swing it to another R? That's all the rage now since the recounts got nuked--to put in Romney or Kasich with Dem and 37 R elector votes.

Damn, I can't wait till this crap ends. After 12/19 I'm sure we'll have to deal with talks of assassination until 1/20/17!
We may need a civil war. Wonder how well it would work with the commies controlling the east & left coast and patriots dominating the other 30+ states? Don't really want to find out unless it comes to that.

They can have their Dog and Pony Show but DJ Trump is our new President and will be moving into the White House In Jan.

All of this makes one wonder what the Demo's future "new direction" will be. I say it will be much further to the left,,,like waaaay further.

Sanders' support, more of Pelosi, Ellison, etc. all points that way. Moderate demos are now rinos. The line is drawn.

amazing what some will pay when you throw a little guilt at 'em