About two months ago I had four bobcats walking around my house. So I took some pictures of them. Then one day I check the fishing game website It turns out the season is mid October to the end of February. So I go into town and get some tags. The next day they came walking across my back lawn. So I grab my gun and get in position then I killed all 4. It was a female and her three large cubs.
Today the male just walked along my backyard. I shot him. That's five within a few weeks.
About two months ago I had four bobcats walking around my house. So I took some pictures of them. Then one day I check the fishing game website It turns out the season is mid October to the end of February. So I go into town and get some tags. The next day they came walking across my back lawn. So I grab my gun and get in position then I killed all 4. It was a female and her three large cubs.
Today the male just walked along my backyard. I shot him. That's five within a few weeks.
So...
You grab your gun and kill a female bobcat and her 3 kittens.
You must be really proud of yourself.
Assuming you are telling the truth, which I seriously doubt, what are you going to do with them?
I gave two of them to my buddy and he's having them mounted and I am having the female mounted. For the male I'm just gonna do a skull mount. I can email pictures to You if I had your email address. One was shot up pretty bad but my buddy took that one too he's going to do a skull mount for me.
Dayom. Yeah, im sure he just suddenly dreamed this up and told guys he did this to get hammered with chitt.
Young guys arent smart enough to yet realize us old guns have passed the stage of youth where killing a bobcat was still a big deal.
They are dumb enough to think they have accomplished something that will someday elevate them into the ranks of seasoned and accomplished hunters.
Us old hands now being more conservative and more PC than in our youth, we can agree to waste all vermin deer killing coyotes but some deer killing critters are less expendable, dont you see, tenderfoot.
In time you will be less full of spit and vinegar and just as smart as we- im sorry to say. Wink.
My sister (lives 4 doors down the road) had 2 goats killed. She didn't know what killed them. The male jumped the neighbors fence, my neighbor raises sheep. My brother (lives 2 doors down the road) had his cat disappear. So coyotes and bobcats get shot.
My sister (lives 4 doors down the road) had 2 goats killed. She didn't know what killed them. The male jumped the neighbors fence, my neighbor raises sheep. My brother (lives 2 doors down the road) had his cat disappear. So coyotes and bobcats get shot.
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Dayom. Yeah, im sure he just suddenly dreamed this up and told guys he did this to get hammered with chitt.
Young guys arent smart enough to yet realize us old guns have passed the stage of youth where killing a bobcat was still a big deal.
They are dumb enough to think they have accomplished something that will someday elevate them into the ranks of seasoned and accomplished hunters.
Us old hands now being more conservative and more PC than in our youth, we can agree to waste all vermin deer killing coyotes but some deer killing critters are less expendable, dont you see, tenderfoot.
In time you will be less full of spit and vinegar and just as smart as we- im sorry to say. Wink.
My sister (lives 4 doors down the road) had 2 goats killed. She didn't know what killed them. The male jumped the neighbors fence, my neighbor raises sheep. My brother (lives 2 doors down the road) had his cat disappear. So coyotes and bobcats get shot.
I certainly don't have a problem with you hunting what you can legally hunt.
If there is any skepticism on my part it's from seeing a user that's been here a week jump in and claim it just dawned on them that it's bobcat season, run down and spend $14 on 5 bobcat tags, get home, and immediately kill 5 bobcats. 3 of them being kittens.
I'm further skeptical about how much livestock they were killing.
Not being the only one in this thread that is skeptical, I may be the only one to point out that in many, many years of hunting predators, including some of that time as a Wildlife Specialist dealing with landowners, ranchers, and the public in general that have problems relating to predators, I can honestly say that I have actually encountered less than 3-4 cases of where bobcats were killing livestock. And only one case where they were killing deer.
So, kill them if you want to. I don't care.
But don't blow smoke up our asses about all the livestock, deer and pets they were killing....
If it DID happen, just admit that you wanted to kill a bunch of bobcats, and did so.
I doubt I'm the only one that really doesn't want to see any pics of dead bobcat kittens, so I wouldn't worry about the inability to post pictures too much.
5 bobcats? Those pelts are worth some serious money. I hope you got them to a fur dealer.
I don't know anything about California regs, but you have to have a CITES tag for each bobcat fur sold in the US. Those and otters. In Texas, you just go to your local P&W office and ask for them. But that's why I don't mess with them, even when they show up in coyote sets.
Here in Kentucky, there is a season limit on bobcats. You can take five total, and that includes hunting and trapping, but only three with a gun. You have to check them in and get a confirmation number that has to be attached to the pelt. Several years ago, I could sell one for between $50 and $100 not skinned. They aren't worth much at all anymore, as far as selling the fur. I used to kill a few cats each year, as they are probably the number one threat to turkeys here, just behind the local Mennonites. Have to admit though, it's getting harder and harder to pull the trigger on one, as they're pretty cool to look at it. But, they are a predator, and they will eat whatever they can...fawns, turkeys, chickens, rabbits, ducks, geese, and the like. A man in the county I live in just trapped the largest bobcat anyone around here ever saw, after it got into his chicken and duck pen, and killed 16 of them.
My puzzy sleeps on the tractor seat when the weather is sour. I'm trying to teach him to fetch the paper in the morning, but you know puzzies, they don't listen.
'bout 20 years ago we had a small covey of Bobwhites on our deer lease. Fool that I was, I got to throwing out birdseed in a certain spot they frequented. Only took the Bobcats a few weeks to wipe out the whole covey. I did shoot four of them after that then decided why, whats the use. No more quail here anymore.
They did get a few turkey poults at first, but over time(10years) they wiped out the Turkeys also.
keep your chin up webster in louisiania!! actually saw three quail the other day s w missouri gave me great hope I might have a covey again someday!!!!!!
Anybody that doesn't believe this post has no idea what a bobcat factory most of California is, during the fur boom of the 70's and 80's the fish and game were cites tagging up to 14,000 cats a year. The habitat of this state is some of the best in the world for everything from salmon to elk, unfortunately they are being managed by urban emotions rather than science. Oh ya and now we have wolves too!🙄🙄
Myself I'll shoot a bobcat big or small short or tall -I'll skin it and eat it too . I ain't give a damn about them . Between all the predatory birds and four legged predators we have little to no anything -except predators . The president of our hunting club buys and releases wild turkey's to try and get a -start- of turkey's . I've seen a couple of them in the 6 years I've been in this lease . We have a private facebook hunting club page -in a discussion we had there I mentioned trapping coyotes and other critters that are eating/killing everything on the lease . The manager of our lease said "" no way on the trapping "" -"" the trapped animals would die of thirst if caught in a trap unless someone watered them every four hours "" . I about died laughing ! Only one other member agreed with trying to trap some predators -but never had a second thought of actually trapping .
Welcome to the forum Leonten .... and good shooting if something is killing the neighborhood pets/stock a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do .
I have no problem with killing Bobcats, we kill every one we see on our property in Woodville Mississippi.
they do kill fawns, rabbits, turkeys etc...
we have no use for them, we do keep the fur, my brother-in-law just opened a Tannery here in south Louisiana, he does awesome work, to the point that he has gotten so much work this fall he can't hardly hunt, I pick on him constantly about it.
go check out his Facebook page
DOOLEY'S QUALITY FURS LLC - he has pics of his work
he has wholesale prices for taxidermist and retail prices for walk-in/ship-in customers.
I have no problem with killing Bobcats, we kill every one we see on our property in Woodville Mississippi.
they do kill fawns, rabbits, turkeys etc...
we have no use for them, we do keep the fur, my brother-in-law just opened a Tannery here in south Louisiana, he does awesome work, to the point that he has gotten so much work this fall he can't hardly hunt, I pick on him constantly about it.
go check out his Facebook page
DOOLEY'S QUALITY FURS LLC - he has pics of his work
he has wholesale prices for taxidermist and retail prices for walk-in/ship-in customers.
good deal. 5 fawn and calf killers gone. now maybe you can take out a coyote a day
I've never seen or heard of a bobcat killing a fawn or calf. I've only killed 2 bobcats in my life and their stomachs were full of rats or rabbits. I did see 2 coyotes kill a 10 point buck in south Texas though. I didn't witness the actual kill but the coyotes chased the buck into some thick brush and the buck didn't make it back out. I found the partially eaten buck in the brush later that day.
80 lb m lion supposedly can kill the biggest bull elk on the mountain.
My first bob was taken with my bow. It was caught by the doe feeding on acorns under me and followed it snorting for a few hundred yards. She jumped between it and her spotless fawns of the year that morning as it snuck toward them through a south Texas oak mott.
That evening they were back and it was sneaking in on them from the opposite direction through some high swamp grass when my Micro-Flight with a Bear Razorhead hit the front of its shoulder from my Ben Pearson Hunter recurve.
Heck of a trophy for me as a jr in high school at the time. Now, Id grab my phone and record the show for unbelievers.
A Texas game warden told me when a bobcat finds a covey of quail it will hunt them every day until they are gone.
I know for a fact a few barn owls will work together and hunt a single covey until all are gone. Harris hawks will also.
Unbelievably, when i was of high school age, biologists still were of the opinion that coyotes were not a significant predator of deer.
I was sneak hunting squirrels back then in the Mission River bottom when a coyote opened up ahead of my and 15 seconds later a walleyed doe and big fawn almost ran over me from the same direction. I thought "Dayom, that coyote wont bother yall". The doe knew the coyote was starting the heard hunt on them and one would die that day.
I didn't take time to look for the article I read of a University study of deer predation -somewhere in the N.E.- , they found and examined dead deer and many had bobcat tracks around the carcass . They found that almost all would have a broken neck and concluded that bobcats get on the deers head and hang on with teeth/claws until the deer finally injures its self from smashing into trees trying to get the bobcat off . Even small young bobcats were known to kill full grown deer .
Last year I killed 5 bobcats on my deer lease within 2 weeks in December. The first one was a female that had a squirrel in its mouth. The next day I shot a female and the two young males that were following her. 2 weeks later I shot a big male that was swimming a river on my deer lease. All 5 were killed within a 300 yards of each other along the river. All the guys on my lease wondered what had happened to our small turkey and quail populations. I guess that explains the rapid reduction in those coveys and flocks. I kill them and coyotes when I see them and the season is open.
good deal. 5 fawn and calf killers gone. now maybe you can take out a coyote a day
I've never seen or heard of a bobcat killing a fawn or calf. I've only killed 2 bobcats in my life and their stomachs were full of rats or rabbits. - -
Your experience seems quite limited when it comes to bobcat food. Try dissecting a few more - and do in good ranching and deer country.
I had a bobcat kill a calf right after Thanksgiving in 2014. Saw the cow come walking out of the brush and the bobcat was trying to drag off the calf. Became my mission in life to hang the bobcat on my wall. Killed him December 10, 2014 and he hangs next to one my Dad and I called yp in 1970.
Anybody that doesn't believe this post has no idea what a bobcat factory most of California is, during the fur boom of the 70's and 80's the fish and game were cites tagging up to 14,000 cats a year. The habitat of this state is some of the best in the world for everything from salmon to elk, unfortunately they are being managed by urban emotions rather than science. Oh ya and now we have wolves too!🙄🙄
^ This.
I despise many of my fellow Californians and their disgusting liberal culture.
That said, I have had a pretty remarkable life here that many would yearn for.
The hunting and fishing in certain parts of California is still extremely good if a guy wants to put in the effort.
Before the trapping ban a few guys were slaying prime cold country cats fetching big money.
My photobucket is dead right now but click on this link for an example of just how good it can be.
Great shooting and great job of ignoring some of these know it all jerks that called you a liar. Caused me to think a whole lot less of them as I did respect them previously but not now.
Re bobcats killing deer: I watched a bobcat stalk a fawn and my son came on a bobcat still on his minutes old kill of a button buck in the snow of December. Also I tracked an unsuccessful attack of a large bobcat on a young of the year mule deer in January snow, and called in the bobcat. The deer ran up to me and stopped, watching its back trail and more afraid of what was behind it than it was of me. So I back trailed it and saw where the cat had jumped it from atop a sandstone boulder. Pretty common for bobcats to kill deer, especially smallish deer.
I didn't say anything but I was skeptical of the original post about four bobcats shot at the same time. Based on my experience that is a VERY unusual event and unusual feat that you achieved. Thanks for posting the pics. I lived in CA for years and called plenty of bobcats while there. Lots of them, no doubt about that part.
A very common trait of people is that of thinking if they havent seen or done it, it hasnt been seen or done.
Unfortunately, truthful folks are often quite gullible and are often easily taken advantage of. OTOH, a trait of the untruthful is they often feel others share their shortcoming and perceive others as untruthful, often to the point of destroying relationships and thus suffering by thus ultimately paying for their own failing.
For certain there are many rare and unusual occurrences that many never report to others to prevent ridicule from peers.
Whoever digs a pit will fall into it; if someone rolls a stone, it will roll back on them. Proverbs 26:27
A very common trait of people is that of thinking if they havent seen or done it, it hasnt been seen or done. . . .
^ ^ ^ this^ ^ ^ these days folks are so dependent on trail cameras that they believe that if it hasn't shown up on camera that it's not there. some were doubting that there were'nt any mt. lions/pumas/panthers in east Texas until they'd seen them or lost pets to them. i've seen 3 on my place, and one of the neighbors had some dogs dragged off screaming. most all the neighbors on the f.m. have seen one.
Very interesting, Ranger. Yes, for years many sightings near Corrigan had been denied. About 15 years ago an aquaintance shot and bloodied one on a place i hunt. Coondogs would not take up the trail. This past season a woman gut shot one and ovarys were found in the blood trail. Neither cat was ever found.
The first cat was shot by a really good woodsman who was hunting squirrels in Piney Creek bottom with a 22.
He snuck up on a bunch of hogs he had heard and saw a ml stalking them. Lord only knows why he head shot it. I would have gone for the bulls eye-right behind the shoulder.
the newest neighbor didn't believe there were any there until he got one on his trail cam. he couldn't figure where all the deer had gone. i told him when the pigs show up, the cats follow and the deer haul butt to where they feel safe. after the pigs and cats go elsewhere the deer filter back in. SE Anderson cty adjacent to the Neches bottoms. the TPWD won't say it, but they're there.
good deal. 5 fawn and calf killers gone. now maybe you can take out a coyote a day
LOL< I've yet to loose a fawn to a cat... we harvest a few now and then if there get to be to many... and the hides are saleable. Damn sure never would loose a flipping calf to a cat... just ain't gonna happen here... 100 pound calf and mean momma won't let a 30 pound max cat win....
Coyotes too, I can't tell for certain after last years major flooding events if i lost a few fawns to water or yotes but before that, we had not lost a fawn to a yote in a LONG time that I can recall.
Other areas YMMV.
Love to watch both cats and yotes hunt. They are fun to watch.
Shooting animals for a reason is not a bad thing though. Shooting em to shoot em is. IMHO.
good deal. 5 fawn and calf killers gone. now maybe you can take out a coyote a day
LOL< I've yet to loose a fawn to a cat... we harvest a few now and then if there get to be to many... and the hides are saleable. Damn sure never would loose a flipping calf to a cat... just ain't gonna happen here... 100 pound calf and mean momma won't let a 30 pound max cat win....
Coyotes too, I can't tell for certain after last years major flooding events if i lost a few fawns to water or yotes but before that, we had not lost a fawn to a yote in a LONG time that I can recall.
Other areas YMMV.
Love to watch both cats and yotes hunt. They are fun to watch.
Shooting animals for a reason is not a bad thing though. Shooting em to shoot em is. IMHO.
One day I'll learn to keep my mouth shut...
But here goes...
These bobcats are fruits of liberal game management in California. Or, non-management, I should say.
Populations get out of control and animals in suburban areas get conditioned to humans. That is obviously what these cats are.
Someone noticed cats in the neighborhood and went and got tags and cam home and shot them.
They were not called in a hunting stand scenario. They were shot in the back yard as they were seen numerous times. A female and her 3 kittens. They were too stupid to even run off after the first one was shot.
The following day the male bobcat was shot under the same circumstances. No hunting. No calling. Just shot in the yard as the live photo shows by the OP.
They were not depredating when shot. They were just shot.
So, forgive me if I don't hand out medals of honor for shooting human conditioned bobcats in an urban environment.
They probably needed to be shot to control the populace of cats within that human conditioned environment... And probably killing a few things they wouldn't be otherwise.
People are pretty quick to call someone they don't know a liar.
And some people like to put words in others' mouths. Never once did I use the word "liar". What I said was "I'm highly skeptical. I'm skeptical of 90% of what I read on the internet. Anyone with even half a brain is.
Cats (and Coyotes) don't do a tenth of the chit they get blamed for but as far as Cats killing Deer.....It's about as rare as killing four Bobcats at one time but it can happen. I'm "skeptical" when I hear about that too though.
How is shooting a mess of bobcats that are being a menace any different than shooting a sow and some piglets off a corn feeder, or popping off a bucket full of newly emerged ground-squirrel pups?
I'm surprised at some folks.
I guess it's because bobcats are cute and cuddly and they've watched too much Disney.
100 pound calves ain't common, but we don't have cats big enough down here, to tackle any calf basically.
YMMV depends on where you are at and relative size of things I guess.
Coyotes around here are only about 30 pounds. Females 20ish range. Biggest male I've ever seen AND shot was 51 pounds. That one was HUGE. Still not big enough to damage stuff. Wild dogs are MUCH worse on animals. MUCH MUCH MUCH worse.
good deal. 5 fawn and calf killers gone. now maybe you can take out a coyote a day
LOL< I've yet to loose a fawn to a cat... we harvest a few now and then if there get to be to many... and the hides are saleable. Damn sure never would loose a flipping calf to a cat... just ain't gonna happen here... 100 pound calf and mean momma won't let a 30 pound max cat win....
Coyotes too, I can't tell for certain after last years major flooding events if i lost a few fawns to water or yotes but before that, we had not lost a fawn to a yote in a LONG time that I can recall.
Other areas YMMV.
Love to watch both cats and yotes hunt. They are fun to watch.
Shooting animals for a reason is not a bad thing though. Shooting em to shoot em is. IMHO.
One day I'll learn to keep my mouth shut...
But here goes...
These bobcats are fruits of liberal game management in California. Or, non-management, I should say.
Populations get out of control and animals in suburban areas get conditioned to humans. That is obviously what these cats are.
Someone noticed cats in the neighborhood and went and got tags and cam home and shot them.
They were not called in a hunting stand scenario. They were shot in the back yard as they were seen numerous times. A female and her 3 kittens. They were too stupid to even run off after the first one was shot.
The following day the male bobcat was shot under the same circumstances. No hunting. No calling. Just shot in the yard as the live photo shows by the OP.
They were not depredating when shot. They were just shot.
So, forgive me if I don't hand out medals of honor for shooting human conditioned bobcats in an urban environment.
They probably needed to be shot to control the populace of cats within that human conditioned environment... And probably killing a few things they wouldn't be otherwise.
But, lets call it what it is.
Geezus, with all the unsporting, non-hunting shyt you Texicans do to kill deer and hogs and still call it "hunting" you've got some nerve putting someone else down for shooting anything, for any reason, any way they can. You and rost495 are some pathetic, full of shyt pieces of work, that's for sure.
The problem with bobcats, is that there are LOTS of them and they are everywhere. If there is a more secretive and undetected animal out there, I don't know what it is.
Wild dogs are very destructive and I don't hesitate to shoot everyone I can. They usually run in groups of two to five.
Our calves are generally 50 to 70 pounds. Prefer to have them closer to 50. Our smallest pasture is 800 acres and we use that for heifers. We calve on about 15 sections so aren't always around when calves are dropped.
Coyotes are generally 40 to 60 pounds full grown. Bobcats are usually about 30 pounds. The one I shot was larger than normal. Probably at least 40 pounds.
good deal. 5 fawn and calf killers gone. now maybe you can take out a coyote a day
LOL< I've yet to loose a fawn to a cat... we harvest a few now and then if there get to be to many... and the hides are saleable. Damn sure never would loose a flipping calf to a cat... just ain't gonna happen here... 100 pound calf and mean momma won't let a 30 pound max cat win....
Coyotes too, I can't tell for certain after last years major flooding events if i lost a few fawns to water or yotes but before that, we had not lost a fawn to a yote in a LONG time that I can recall.
Other areas YMMV.
Love to watch both cats and yotes hunt. They are fun to watch.
Shooting animals for a reason is not a bad thing though. Shooting em to shoot em is. IMHO.
One day I'll learn to keep my mouth shut...
But here goes...
These bobcats are fruits of liberal game management in California. Or, non-management, I should say.
Populations get out of control and animals in suburban areas get conditioned to humans. That is obviously what these cats are.
Someone noticed cats in the neighborhood and went and got tags and cam home and shot them.
They were not called in a hunting stand scenario. They were shot in the back yard as they were seen numerous times. A female and her 3 kittens. They were too stupid to even run off after the first one was shot.
The following day the male bobcat was shot under the same circumstances. No hunting. No calling. Just shot in the yard as the live photo shows by the OP.
They were not depredating when shot. They were just shot.
So, forgive me if I don't hand out medals of honor for shooting human conditioned bobcats in an urban environment.
They probably needed to be shot to control the populace of cats within that human conditioned environment... And probably killing a few things they wouldn't be otherwise.
But, lets call it what it is.
I think rockinbar surmizes the situation pretty good on the CA bobcat situation. The only problem I have on this thread and where it seems to fall apart is when hunters start passing judgment on other hunters on a legal hunting act. This negative commenting isn't that different than Jim Zumbo commenting negatively on Black Rifles because they didn't interest "him".
To make matters worse this hunter hails from a state that needs all the support it can get from hunters not opposition. The old saying "If you don't have something nice to sat don't say anything at all" might apply to this situation.
A little further north in 14 degree temps, 10 stands produced one coyote and one bobcat. I don't believe for a second that is the preditor ratio of dogs to cats. ][/url]
The one thing a cat has going for it is patience. If there was a cat in the area I was hunting I'd probably leave before 99% of them would ever show up.
If coyotes were nearly as stupid as cats there wouldn't be nearly as many of them out there on the loose.
Very true when it comes to trapping but quite the opposite when it comes to calling IME.
Originally Posted by Farming
The one thing a cat has going for it is patience. If there was a cat in the area I was hunting I'd probably leave before 99% of them would ever show up.
Agree....Also worth noting is their stealth...some of the Cats I've called were setting there staring at me when I finally discovered their presence. Lord knows how long they'd been there.
If coyotes were nearly as stupid as cats there wouldn't be nearly as many of them out there on the loose.
Very true when it comes to trapping but quite the opposite when it comes to calling IME.
Originally Posted by Farming
The one thing a cat has going for it is patience. If there was a cat in the area I was hunting I'd probably leave before 99% of them would ever show up.
Agree....Also worth noting is their stealth...some of the Cats I've called were setting there staring at me when I finally discovered their presence. Lord knows how long they'd been there.
When calling cats scent/wind doesn't seem to be as big a deal as with coyotes in my experience. Been busted by coyotes many times when they circle downwind, don't think I've ever been busted by a cat because of scent when calling....or maybe I have and just never saw the cat.
If coyotes were nearly as stupid as cats there wouldn't be nearly as many of them out there on the loose.
Very true when it comes to trapping but quite the opposite when it comes to calling IME.
Originally Posted by Farming
The one thing a cat has going for it is patience. If there was a cat in the area I was hunting I'd probably leave before 99% of them would ever show up.
Agree....Also worth noting is their stealth...some of the Cats I've called were setting there staring at me when I finally discovered their presence. Lord knows how long they'd been there.
All very true but danged coyotes sure are learning fast. They need something new ever so often. Squeaky mouse seems to still be working.
When calling cats scent/wind doesn't seem to be as big a deal as with coyotes in my experience. Been busted by coyotes many times when they circle downwind, don't think I've ever been busted by a cat because of scent when calling....or maybe I have and just never saw the cat.
Same thing's true when trapping cats. I stink up my sets with human scent something awfull trying to keep the Coyotes out of em. Tracks in the snow indicate it works quite well too...ha
If coyotes were nearly as stupid as cats there wouldn't be nearly as many of them out there on the loose.
Very true when it comes to trapping but quite the opposite when it comes to calling IME.
Originally Posted by Farming
The one thing a cat has going for it is patience. If there was a cat in the area I was hunting I'd probably leave before 99% of them would ever show up.
Agree....Also worth noting is their stealth...some of the Cats I've called were setting there staring at me when I finally discovered their presence. Lord knows how long they'd been there.
When calling cats scent/wind doesn't seem to be as big a deal as with coyotes in my experience. Been busted by coyotes many times when they circle downwind, don't think I've ever been busted by a cat because of scent when calling....or maybe I have and just never saw the cat.
On this stand the cat came in from down wind. As we walked back to the rig we cut fresh coyote tracks that weren't there when we walked in " down wind in the timber" damn coyote was coming but didn't show cuz he winded us.
How it all happened. I got my tags. The next day I was sitting in my living room watching TV. It was a little after 9am and I saw the 'cats walking along my back yard. (I have a glass door facing my back yard). So I waited till they walked behind my hot tub gazibo. Then I go outside with my rifle. I only had 3 rounds in the gun. However I assumed at the first shot they would all scatter. So I shot the biggest one the others just froze. So I shot the second one but the third started running away. So I shot it on the run and hit it a little too far back which blew a hole in it. The fourth one jumped down the hillside. So I put the gun down and went to collect them. I got about halfway to them when the fourth one comes back. So I turn around, come back to my house, and go to my reloading bench and picked up some more cartridges. I then loaded my gun and the fourth one was just hanging around. So I shot it. I am anxious to get it back from the taxidermy. My buddy is having two of them mounted for his game room. And I'm having one mounted to put in my living room.
If coyotes were nearly as stupid as cats there wouldn't be nearly as many of them out there on the loose.
Very true when it comes to trapping but quite the opposite when it comes to calling IME.
Originally Posted by Farming
The one thing a cat has going for it is patience. If there was a cat in the area I was hunting I'd probably leave before 99% of them would ever show up.
Agree....Also worth noting is their stealth...some of the Cats I've called were setting there staring at me when I finally discovered their presence. Lord knows how long they'd been there.
When calling cats scent/wind doesn't seem to be as big a deal as with coyotes in my experience. Been busted by coyotes many times when they circle downwind, don't think I've ever been busted by a cat because of scent when calling....or maybe I have and just never saw the cat.
On this stand the cat came in from down wind. As we walked back to the rig we cut fresh coyote tracks that weren't there when we walked in " down wind in the timber" damn coyote was coming but didn't show cuz he winded us.
I've had the same thing happen at my trap sites. Seen Coyote trax headed down the trail that turned off when they winded my lure then do an about face about ten feet from my set. Guys that target Coyotes have a chore on their hands keeping their sets scent free.
I still catch one once in a while but it sure ain't because I was trying to.
I was talking to the neighbor today and he mentioned that he used to raise chickens. But something got inside his fence and kill them all. His daughter liked the chickens so he got some more. They all got killed too.
As I was leaving he thanked me for taking out the bobcats, he still has two sheep.
I just heard two, maybe three, coyotes yodeling on the hillside behind my house. They were actually below my neighbors house. So I'm getting ready to take them out, during the daytime that is.
100 pound calves ain't common, but we don't have cats big enough down here, to tackle any calf basically.
YMMV depends on where you are at and relative size of things I guess.
Coyotes around here are only about 30 pounds. Females 20ish range. Biggest male I've ever seen AND shot was 51 pounds. That one was HUGE. Still not big enough to damage stuff. Wild dogs are MUCH worse on animals. MUCH MUCH MUCH worse.
As far as size mattering - it's not uncommon for folks around here to lose a horse to a mountain lion. Bobcats will take deer - especially fawns, and I'm sure they account for a few antelope fawns (those that the coyotes don't get). While I don't know of ever losing a calf to a bobcat, we seem to lose at least one a year that we can't account for due to rough country - some years more. While some loss is due to sickness, I'd bet some is due to predation. I've seen bobcats on deer kills - some fair sized deer.
At 9am this morning a coyote was walking across my back yard lawn. My gun is ready. However, he was heading in a direction that is unsafe to shoot. So I'm just waiting for him to come back.
I've got no problem with shooting bobcats, I shot many back in the day, and several since. The last one a couple of years ago. In the mid 80s and before, when coyotes were $80-$100, coons were $40 - $50, and Bobcats were $350 - $400. In Wyoming you could hunt these critters all year, but we didn't. In order to get the kind of prices above pelts needed to be "prime" winter coats. We would start shooting a few samples around Thanksgiving just to get a better look at the fur. Usually, it was closer to Christmas before things started to bring top dollar. Around March the fur starts "pulling" (shedding has begun) and once this happens fur bearers were nearly worthless. Northern Rocky Mountain fur (WY, MT, ID, and Canada) was the best of the best fur, followed by Alaska then Great Lakes. Even with coons being the lowest of the prices that I listed, that is where we made most of our money. It wasn't that tuff to get a lot of them. I shot 14 $45 coons out of one tree in about 5 mins once. Coyotes were next for payoffs. Bobkitties that got in our traps or sights were sweet, a very welcome bonus, but they are harder to hunt and trap. I think on our best years we only got 5 or 6 in prime season. The OP getting 5 in a week would of been quite a prize in a different time and place!
As far as predators killing game, especially birds, goes, I don't really mind if the bobcats get a few, at least they are supposed to be here. I would be many times more concerned with what the feral cats are doing -- there are billions of those SOBs and I shoot every one I can any day of the year.
I like how the mount came out. And I think you did a good thing as far as helping rid your neighborhood of excessive predators that had lost their fear of humans.
One of the additional videos linked to one of the videos earlier in this thread showed security footage of a bobcat attacking a Yorky terrier in a homeowners backyard. It reminded me of how heartbroken some friends of ours were when they let their Yorky out at their weekend cabin and an eagle swooped down and took it. Many people don't realize that 100 years ago eagles were considered unwanted predators and were shot as quickly as a coyote would be. Now eagles are honored and protected, but they are still powerful predators.
When predators of any kind, including feral cats, start brazenly cruising people's backyards, they need to be eliminated by one means or another. A small-farm neighbor calls me for help when coyotes start getting his chickens during the daytime. The chickens are cooped up at night. He tried having four ducks, but based on tracks, a bobcat got them at night.
Thanks for sharing your experience with these bobcats.
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