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The networks are hyper-ventilating this morning over Flynn. It will be a test of Trumps' advisors to weather the storm.
Trump better review his "team" for the media will look for the next "weak link".

I support Navy Seal Harward for National Security Advisor.
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
The networks are hyper-ventilating this morning over Flynn. It will be a test of Trumps' advisors to weather the storm.
Trump better review his "team" for the media will look for the next "weak link".

I support Navy Seal Harward for National Security Advisor.


Isn't he the spook who warned Trump about Flynn's conversation being recorded?
Just a continuation.

It has been a full out attack since Trump became the Republican nominee.

SSDD
True, but now there's blood in the water.
Someone still watches "the networks"?

Some people don't know or forget that Flynn was a member of the democrat party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_T._Flynn
Flynn is no big deal in the long run. Not like he is the only qualified advisor out there. The Dems got a scalp. So what? Find someone they hate more.

This keeps the Dems busy slobbering over something, distracting them from Trump's next move. Just like the XO that the Left is still obsessed over. They've spent 2+ weeks on that, and Trump moves on. They hasn't given them time to start attacking Gorsisch, which will be difficult for them.
its their first opening against Trump

They'll try to make the most of it and show they can do some damage in what would otherwise seem a pointless existence in trying to stop the wrecking ball coming at them.
Originally Posted by hatari
Flynn is no big deal in the long run. Not like he is the only qualified advisor out there. The Dems got a scalp. So what? Find someone they hate more.


I find it interesting that the scalp they took was a Dem scalp.
What was Flynn's senate vote count?
Party lines?
the best thing about Flynn dominating the news cycle is nobody is talking about ICE rounding up all those Messicans.

Originally Posted by Raeford
What was Flynn's senate vote count?
Party lines?


NS Advisors are appointed by the President, not subject to Senate confirmation.
Originally Posted by walt501
Someone still watches "the networks"?



Well, you can ignore the interpretation of the news but not the news itself.
The MSM considers itself to be at war with the Trump administration.
This is a crack in the Trump Admin. armor and the Dems/media will try to side it with the next "weak link".
If this was Flynn under Hillary, it would be no big deal. The media would spike it and the R's would never say much of anything.

Clearly in the minority, the Dems never give up and keep finding ways to score small victories.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Raeford
What was Flynn's senate vote count?
Party lines?


NS Advisors are appointed by the President, not subject to Senate confirmation.


Thanks-I couldn't recall a vote[and couldn't do a search at the moment].
This is just the first salvo in a four or eight year long war, nothing more. The President will have his hands full, particularly with the no-load repubicans in the Congress who are already dragging their feet to protect the system.
More BS
Originally Posted by jorgeI
This is just the first salvo in a four or eight year long war, nothing more. The President will have his hands full, particularly with the no-load repubicans in the Congress who are already dragging their feet to protect the system.


Agree. A lot of people on both sides should stay off social media and the 24 hour news cycle and go decaffeinated .

This should not be an issue, he did wrong and Trump fired him (nobody resigns at that level). Problem solved, Dems want to run at trump, fine, his answer is "yes, he did a bad thing, so I fired him, any questions"
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

This should not be an issue, he did wrong and Trump fired him (nobody resigns at that level). Problem solved, Dems want to run at trump, fine, his answer is "yes, he did a bad thing, so I fired him, any questions GFY"
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
The networks are hyper-ventilating this morning over Flynn. It will be a test of Trumps' advisors to weather the storm.
Trump better review his "team" for the media will look for the next "weak link".

I support Navy Seal Harward for National Security Advisor.


the mistake was letting Mike resign, Holder didnt, Lynch didnt, Huma didnt, wasserkopf-shultz did but got a better job

idiots gave the narrative back to the dems when they acknowledged their accusations.
as long as republicans have anything to do with the decision making...they'll capitulate.
God help us when we need to hold the line.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Just a continuation.

It has been a full out attack since Trump became the Republican nominee.

SSDD


It is ALWAYS a full out attack on the POTUS by the opposition. All day, every day, 24/7/365. This is not news.
To quote a line from the movie absence of malice" Boy, the last time we had a leak like this, Noah built his self a Boat".
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Just a continuation.

It has been a full out attack since Trump became the Republican nominee.

SSDD


It is ALWAYS a full out attack on the POTUS by the opposition. All day, every day, 24/7/365. This is not news.


Not hardly. During the eight years of Barak Hussein Obama's reign, the Republicans rarely ever criticized BHO for anything, other than some obligatory, very mild whimpering. Most gutless Republicans (RINOs) were scared to death of the Marxist Socialist inspired, Democrat controlled media labeling them as "racists, racists, racists!".

The Marxist Socialist inspired mainstream media NEVER, EVER, criticized ANYTHING BHO did or said. Nor do they do so today, as he forms up his seditious, traitorous "shadow government."

All opposition is reserved to stomp out Republicans, Trump, and destroy the United States as a Constitutional Republic.

That's the way it really is out there.

L.W.
former Obama appointee...
register demo rat...
good riddance. maybe Trump can find a Republican USMC GENERAL to take his place. Krulack may be available.
Originally Posted by ringworm
former Obama appointee...
register demo rat...
good riddance. maybe Trump can find a Republican USMC GENERAL to take his place. Krulack may be available.


There's a simple answer: Limpdick R's need to grow a pair...most all of them. wink
it's a full-scale "political ideology" war in both camps. trumpman attempting to drain the swamp/tip the swamp over, and the demo's pushing back to reduce the damage to their way of life.

the repubs will hardly lift a finger, but will give lip service to the trumpman. he and his staff will have a tough road to hoe. the American people will probably be on his side for the most part.
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Just a continuation.

It has been a full out attack since Trump became the Republican nominee.

SSDD


It is ALWAYS a full out attack on the POTUS by the opposition. All day, every day, 24/7/365. This is not news.


That is complete BS.

What rock have you been hiding under these last 8 years?

An interesting read.


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...o_take_out_its_critic_general_flynn.html
Flynn admitted lying to Pense. Maybe Trump was a tad too gracious allowing Flynn to "resign."
Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Just a continuation.

It has been a full out attack since Trump became the Republican nominee.

SSDD


It is ALWAYS a full out attack on the POTUS by the opposition. All day, every day, 24/7/365. This is not news.


Not hardly. During the eight years of Barak Hussein Obama's reign, the Republicans rarely ever criticized BHO for anything, other than some obligatory, very mild whimpering. Most gutless Republicans (RINOs) were scared to death of the Marxist Socialist inspired, Democrat controlled media labeling them as "racists, racists, racists!".

The Marxist Socialist inspired mainstream media NEVER, EVER, criticized ANYTHING BHO did or said. Nor do they do so today, as he forms up his seditious, traitorous "shadow government."

All opposition is reserved to stomp out Republicans, Trump, and destroy the United States as a Constitutional Republic.

That's the way it really is out there.

L.W.


Seriously? You are joking and your sarcasm button is working overtime, right? Have you been watching this website for instance? Listening to conservative talk radio/TV? On the net ANYWHERE? You must be from LA LA LAND.
The Dems think they all should resign including Trump. I wonder who they will go to work on next. Will it be Bannon or the chief of staff. Hasbeen
Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
The Dems think they all should resign including Trump. I wonder who they will go to work on next. Will it be Bannon or the chief of staff. Hasbeen


Both
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Just a continuation.

It has been a full out attack since Trump became the Republican nominee.

SSDD


It is ALWAYS a full out attack on the POTUS by the opposition. All day, every day, 24/7/365. This is not news.


Not hardly. During the eight years of Barak Hussein Obama's reign, the Republicans rarely ever criticized BHO for anything, other than some obligatory, very mild whimpering. Most gutless Republicans (RINOs) were scared to death of the Marxist Socialist inspired, Democrat controlled media labeling them as "racists, racists, racists!".

The Marxist Socialist inspired mainstream media NEVER, EVER, criticized ANYTHING BHO did or said. Nor do they do so today, as he forms up his seditious, traitorous "shadow government."

All opposition is reserved to stomp out Republicans, Trump, and destroy the United States as a Constitutional Republic.

That's the way it really is out there.

L.W.


Seriously? You are joking and your sarcasm button is working overtime, right? Have you been watching this website for instance? Listening to conservative talk radio/TV? On the net ANYWHERE? You must be from LA LA LAND.


Not joking at all, Beans, and if you were capable of reading and comprehending what I wrote which apparently you're not -- I was talking about the mainstream media, Democrats in total, and RINO politicians, not this Campfire site.

A few conservative radio talk show hosts and a few conservative commentators on Fox teevee, criticizing Obama as opposed to every pap dispenser on ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, virtually every major newspaper in the U.S., 99.5% of everything coming out of Hollywood, that was pro-Obama and now anti-Trump, proves my point. Obviously, facts and reason are not your forte.

Name one of the pap dispensing propaganda meisters who wrote or stated anything criticizing anything Obama did during the eight years he reigned.

You've obviously been brainwashed by your far left wing masters.

L.W.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
The MSM considers itself to be at war with the Trump administration.


MSM self admittedly considers itself the fourth branch of government.
LW,
then you truly are an idiot. It is not hard to see why this country is so messed up.
Originally Posted by las
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
The MSM considers itself to be at war with the Trump administration.


MSM self admittedly considers itself the fourth branch of government.


Then we need to drain THAT swamp too!

They are self important idiots.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
True, but now there's blood in the water.

there has been 'blood in the water' ever since the 'grab 'em by the pussy' thing. It will never improve. The media is left wing, and anti American, anti Trump. They will not let up.
That said, the extreme view espoused by the left wing media represents a smaller segment of America than you might think.
A lot of liberals are getting tired of this chit.
The same liberal azzholes who said nothing about Kennedy's treason:
“On 9-10 May of this year,” the May 14 memorandum explained, “Sen. Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.” (Tunney was Kennedy’s law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) “The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.”

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

Ted's Treason

And Defended Obama with his hot mic offer. It's time the conservatives grew some balls.

Originally Posted by Coyotejunki
Some people don't know or forget that Flynn was a member of the democrat party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_T._Flynn



That was Trumps first mistake.
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by Leanwolf


Not hardly. During the eight years of Barak Hussein Obama's reign, the Republicans rarely ever criticized BHO for anything, other than some obligatory, very mild whimpering. Most gutless Republicans (RINOs) were scared to death of the Marxist Socialist inspired, Democrat controlled media labeling them as "racists, racists, racists!".

The Marxist Socialist inspired mainstream media NEVER, EVER, criticized ANYTHING BHO did or said. Nor do they do so today, as he forms up his seditious, traitorous "shadow government."

All opposition is reserved to stomp out Republicans, Trump, and destroy the United States as a Constitutional Republic.

That's the way it really is out there.

L.W.


Seriously? You are joking and your sarcasm button is working overtime, right? Have you been watching this website for instance? Listening to conservative talk radio/TV? On the net ANYWHERE? You must be from LA LA LAND.


There is a big difference between keyboard commandos like us and the all out assault by athe whole D.C. Establishment including that of both parties and the media that this new President has gone up against.

I think that is what LW was getting at.

You see the difference right?

If the resistance to Trump was just from liberal talk radio and the Democratic underground it'd be a much different scenario.
I have been thinking about all of this turmoil.

It seems to me that Trump should tell the dems and anyone else that don't like him to pound sand.

These are his choices and it is up to him and him alone to keep anyone or get rid and replace them.

They serve at the pleasure of the President.

Just my viewpoint.
Can't criticize black or female as not political correct (esp media). Open season(esp media) on white males esp conservative Christians. Some of the critical will have to have their feet held to the fire before the harassment stops.

Conservative Republicans don't have a clue how to go on the offense. Sad to say Kelly Conway & Sarah Palin both have more gonads than our whole House & Senate. GW
Originally Posted by CaneSlinger
Flynn admitted lying to Pense. Maybe Trump was a tad too gracious allowing Flynn to "resign."

I bet Flynn was TOLD to resign.
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I bet Flynn was TOLD to resign.


What I heard on the radio today, along with a lot of rino's wanting an investigation into Trumps role in the whole thing. They seem to be following the Dem's lead, and I hope it blows up in their faces. miles
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America makes a great mistake. So this is the "Honeymoon"? Cabinet pick resigns, FBI investigations, all within the first month. Ya buddy this guy is a winner. NOT!
Thanks LostHighway, for reminding me I wasn't logged in. Took me a second to remember why I was suddenly able to see your drivel...that's fixed now.



LostHighway is just an example of how easily some people bow to evil. He probably supports abortion and illegal immigration.
You're just upset because your house is on fire. grin

Originally Posted by LostHighway
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America makes a great mistake. So this is the "Honeymoon"? Cabinet pick resigns, FBI investigations, all within the first month. Ya buddy this guy is a winner. NOT!
"According to the report, Trump associates and campaign staffers were consistently and repeatedly in contact with senior Russian intelligence officials in the time leading up to the election. The Times story cites multiple former and current American officials who allegedly based their information on phone records, as well as intercepted calls".
(Reuters)
The Flynn controversy has now evolved into a full blown scandal. This isn't going away any time soon. Expect a full investigation by Congress in the near future.

We are living in interesting times.
Originally Posted by LostHighway
"According to the report, Trump associates and campaign staffers were consistently and repeatedly in contact with senior Russian intelligence officials in the time leading up to the election. The Times story cites multiple former and current American officials who allegedly based their information on phone records, as well as intercepted calls".

The Flynn controversy has now evolved into a full blown scandal. This isn't going away any time soon. Expect a full investigation by Congress in the near future.

We are living in interesting times.


Keep drinkin' that KoolAid.
Originally Posted by LostHighway
"According to the report, Trump associates and campaign staffers were consistently and repeatedly in contact with senior Russian intelligence officials in the time leading up to the election. The Times story cites multiple former and current American officials who allegedly based their information on phone records, as well as intercepted calls".

The Flynn controversy has now evolved into a full blown scandal. This isn't going away any time soon. Expect a full investigation by Congress in the near future.

We are living in interesting times.


Odd that this is an issue but your POSOTUS Hussein had senior officials in regular communications with Iranian and Muslim Brotherhood leaders - and you and the MSM never said a word.

Losthighway was hoping to take in a few Muslim refugees, boys under the age of 14.

It hurts him that his dreams of unlimited buttfu*cking have been dashed.
Originally Posted by LostHighway
"According to the report, Trump associates and campaign staffers were consistently and repeatedly in contact with senior Russian intelligence officials in the time leading up to the election. The Times story cites multiple former and current American officials who allegedly based their information on phone records, as well as intercepted calls".
(Reuters)
The Flynn controversy has now evolved into a full blown scandal. This isn't going away any time soon. Expect a full investigation by Congress in the near future.

We are living in interesting times.


Standard Operating Procedures for new Administrations. Been going on for years, but of course since it's Trump, it must be a scandal. What you fail to see is the REAL problem and that is, the leaking of this information to the public for political gains at the expense of national security. Nothing new for treasonous democrats.
honestly, if Hillary was elected and the spook community was leaking damaging information about her in an attempt to undermine her presidency would we be concerned about the crumbling of democracy and our intelligence community carrying out its own agenda regardless of what the presidents policies were?

I would be so pissed that Hillary was president and she was moving forward with her liberal hawkish agenda I can't say that I'd be concerned about the intelligence community going rogue.

That's wrong on my part, but that's how I'd feel, so in that framework, I'm pissed they are trying to undermine Trump but I'm trying to avoid being hypocritical in condemning those that are supporting this.

The other side of this is - Trump and much of his cabinet aren't seasoned beltline wonks. I expect chaos and missteps from many of them in the first few months as they learn how this goes. I expect headbutting and I guess realistically some people either being fired or moving on from frustration. He's trying to move mountains here with an inexperienced team and a whole village fighting every move he makes.

Flynn isn't a new guy to Washington politics though - so I guess he can't get the same benefit of the doubt as the new staff.
But who is telling Manafort, etal, that denying the communication is a viable strategy?
Originally Posted by KFWA
honestly, if Hillary was elected and the spook community was leaking damaging information about her in an attempt to undermine her presidency would we be concerned about the crumbling of democracy and our intelligence community carrying out its own agenda regardless of what the presidents policies were?

I would be so pissed that Hillary was president and she was moving forward with her liberal hawkish agenda I can't say that I'd be concerned about the intelligence community going rogue.

That's wrong on my part, but that's how I'd feel, so in that framework, I'm pissed they are trying to undermine Trump but I'm trying to avoid being hypocritical in condemning those that are supporting this.

The other side of this is - Trump and much of his cabinet aren't seasoned beltline wonks. I expect chaos and missteps from many of them in the first few months as they learn how this goes. I expect headbutting and I guess realistically some people either being fired or moving on from frustration. He's trying to move mountains here with an inexperienced team and a whole village fighting every move he makes.

Flynn isn't a new guy to Washington politics though - so I guess he can't get the same benefit of the doubt as the new staff.


Excellent points. However, if Hitlery were POTUS, the leaks would not be happening because those leaking would be getting what they want - a new Cold War with Russia, and this time with the US aligned with Communist China against now (somewhat) capitalist Russia.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
But who is telling Manafort, etal, that denying the communication is a viable strategy?


Maybe, JUST maybe, Manafort is telling the truth about who he was talking to.
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by curdog4570
But who is telling Manafort, etal, that denying the communication is a viable strategy?


Maybe, JUST maybe, Manafort is telling the truth about who he was talking to.


He denied talking to ANY Russians during the campaign. He should have left himself some wiggle room.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Losthighway was hoping to take in a few Muslim refugees, boys under the age of 14.

It hurts him that his dreams of unlimited buttfu*cking have been dashed.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know what obsesses you.
No need posting it....
Hum
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