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Posted By: 4ager Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Confirmation hearings to start in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 20. That will kick off at least 3-4 days of Committee hearings, then an untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.

Just FYI - scheduled Senate Easter Recess is April 10-21.
Posted By: Gus Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
hopefully, he'll be shoo'd in without too much ado.

following other retirements, deaths, etc, and after the mid-terms, things might tighten up?

we should be making hay while the sun shines, ya know?
Posted By: RickyD Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.
Posted By: 4ager Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by RickyD
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.


Thus the mention of the Senate recess.

wink

That gets Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and saves the nuclear option for Ginsburg's replacement (who cannot come fast enough).
Posted By: hanco Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Slow process
Posted By: Raeford Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by RickyD
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.


Thus the mention of the Senate recess.

wink

That gets Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and saves the nuclear option for Ginsburg's replacement (who cannot come fast enough).


If there IS a Easter recess, can Trump.....?
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
A recess appointment isn't permanent, is it?
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by RickyD
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.


Thus the mention of the Senate recess.

wink

That gets Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and saves the nuclear option for Ginsburg's replacement (who cannot come fast enough).


Ok....I know I'm getting ahead of things, but like I asked in an earlier thread...which way would Gorsuch lean if the ACA were repealed and another "mandate" passed? Would Roberts flip flop?? Would he offer to rewrite it again so it would pass???

Because you know damn well that anything coming out of this administration will be challenged in court...and if the ACA is repealed without a good replacement I can see the headlines now....

DONALD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS LEAVE 25 MILLION AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by RickyD
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.


Thus the mention of the Senate recess.

wink

That gets Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and saves the nuclear option for Ginsburg's replacement (who cannot come fast enough).
A recess appointment is temporary, only until the end of the current session of the court. Thus, it would only be good until Oct.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
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DONALD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS LEAVE 25 MILLION AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE


That's already what the democrats are screaming at the top of their lungs.
Posted By: Gus Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
in a sense the ACA was a great success (say what?), because all anybody in either party is talking about is a replacement for said act.

nobody speaks of re-setting things back to the conditions existing prior to the passage of the ACA.

we've all been had, and don't even realize it. yet again...
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by RickyD
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.


Thus the mention of the Senate recess.

wink

That gets Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and saves the nuclear option for Ginsburg's replacement (who cannot come fast enough).
A recess appointment is temporary, only until the end of the current session of the court. Thus, it would only be good until Oct.


Precisely.

That why we need confirmation, not stalling.

I'd way rather they invoke the option as soon as it comes before the senate for vote.

It's what's gonna happen anyway.
Posted By: 4ager Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by RickyD
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.


Thus the mention of the Senate recess.

wink

That gets Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and saves the nuclear option for Ginsburg's replacement (who cannot come fast enough).
A recess appointment is temporary, only until the end of the current session of the court. Thus, it would only be good until Oct.


Precisely.

That why we need confirmation, not stalling.

I'd way rather they invoke the option as soon as it comes before the senate for vote.

It's what's gonna happen anyway.


Agreed, but it puts Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and confirmation can happen at any time thereafter.
Posted By: Gringo Loco Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by Gus
hopefully, he'll be shoo'd in without too much ado.

following other retirements, deaths, etc, and after the mid-terms, things might tighten up?

we should be making hay while the sun shines, ya know?

Hopefully, he'll adhere to the constitution and not be a Benedict Arnold like Roberts or former Judge Souter.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
If Mitch had any gonads, he'd tell the Dems that if they're going to filibuster, the minute there's a gap with no one talking, he's calling for a vote.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
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DONALD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS LEAVE 25 MILLION AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE


That's already what the democrats are screaming at the top of their lungs.


Well, I have to admit...I think they might be right...We hollered and screamed about how unconstitutional the ACA was...maybe the liberal side of the court will change their minds and agree once Trump rolls out his plan...

"REPEAL AND REPLACE" Maybe damned if he does....Surely damned if he doesn't....
Posted By: Steve Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
McConnell can invoke the Seanate Two Speech Rule as an end run around the filibuster.

Basically says that senators can only give two speeches on a question before the Senate in a legislative day. The day ends when the Senate adjourns, i.e. when McConnell says it does.

Make 'em take the floor and speak until their depends leak,
Posted By: Steve Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
And he should turn off the CSPAN cameras while it's taking place.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
If Mitch had any gonads, he'd tell the Dems that if they're going to filibuster, the minute there's a gap with no one talking, he's calling for a vote.


aye, and there's the rub................
Posted By: ironbender Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/17/17
I get the impression Trump doesn't want to play games getting the confirmation.
Gorsuch will be confirmed April 9, one way or another.
Posted By: Penobscot_99 Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/19/17
MAGA !
It's been a Great month!
God Bless America and Donald Trump!
Posted By: hatari Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/20/17
The Dems have made so much noise already, how can they make Gorsuch a biger villian than Devos or Price or any of the others they have stalled or opposed.

They will soon enough be like Chicken Little. The sky is not fallen every day.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/20/17
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by RickyD
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.


Thus the mention of the Senate recess.

wink

That gets Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and saves the nuclear option for Ginsburg's replacement (who cannot come fast enough).


Why??

Why do they need or want to save it?

Go for it now, leave it in place until Oct. 2020, then recind it until after the election.
Posted By: hatari Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/20/17
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by RickyD
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untold length of time for the Ds to stall in committee and then on the Senate floor.
It can remain untold because it won't be allowed. I believe Trump will be clear on that.


Thus the mention of the Senate recess.

wink

That gets Gorsuch on the SCOTUS and saves the nuclear option for Ginsburg's replacement (who cannot come fast enough).


Ok....I know I'm getting ahead of things, but like I asked in an earlier thread...which way would Gorsuch lean if the ACA were repealed and another "mandate" passed? Would Roberts flip flop?? Would he offer to rewrite it again so it would pass???

Because you know damn well that anything coming out of this administration will be challenged in court...and if the ACA is repealed without a good replacement I can see the headlines now....

DONALD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS LEAVE 25 MILLION AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE


You fight back with Trump makes heathcare more affordable for millions. They need to hammer that home. The Trump plan will make is cheaper and easiler to get aboard. Screw the subsidies. Just make a catostrophic plan cheap. Hgh deductable, and cover only truely major happenings.
Posted By: hanco Re: Gorsuch confirmation - 02/20/17
Raised my health insurance way up. What about that????
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