I wish I had your energy. My '92 Honda Nighthawk has had clogged carburetors for about 4 years now. Haven't had the energy/enthusiasm to just get started.
Sold my Sportster to get a 1985 Electra Glide. Sold it to get a bike to ride. Sorry guys, I like my Yamahas now - Just check the tire pressure and change the oil every 4k miles. Oh! I did tighten the drive belt on the Bolt once. No pans for drips. Yes, the Harley's look nice and have the whole "lifestyle" my brother loves. But, when I went to buy a coil and all the ones at the HD dealer were marked "Made in China", read the fuel injection was made by an Italian company, and that the parts for the new entry level bikes assembled in Indiana? were coming from India, well:
I never get tired of dumbasses badmouthing Harleys.
One of the purest forms of entertainment.
You sound like a good friend of mine who bought a Harley after we both retired. He spent a fortune on his new Harley, bought a whole new wardrobe at the local Harley shop, got some tattoos and headed to the big rally in Sturgess with some other Harley addicts. He made it from Austin to Denver where he broke down on the freeway on a Sunday. He finally made it to Sturgess and back after he got his Harley fixed. I told if he had planned on taking long motorcycle trips he should have bought a Honda. I never got tired of hearing stories about his Harley misadventures for the next 20 years.
Are you doing a full restore or just pulling one out of hibernation? I pulled my brother's ignored 1975 Sportster out and cranked it up after 25 years under a pile of junk in a garage. All I did was put in new points and plugs, replace the oil that was on the floor (for real, it had all drained out). Oh, a new Chinese "H-D" coil.
I wish people didn't make a contest out of it all the time. I like them, had them, but forgive me; I don't want to sleep with your wife either. It ain't personal. I was a Marine Sgt, don't need a brand of bike or fiberglass stock to prop my gonads up. Hey, you aint' special for buying one, my gay millenial neighbor has some Harley Touring thing. Wears a retro Bell helmet and dresses like Eric von Zipper. Take my Harley hating posts tongue in cheek, like my posts about 260 Creedmoor and 280AI. I don't hate sport bikes either, just the young guys who can still bend up like a pretzel without arthritis kicking their buttocks'.
I never get tired of dumbasses badmouthing Harleys.
One of the purest forms of entertainment.
You sound like a good friend of mine who bought a Harley after we both retired. He spent a fortune on his new Harley, bought a whole new wardrobe at the local Harley shop, got some tattoos and headed to the big rally in Sturgess with some other Harley addicts. He made it from Austin to Denver where he broke down on the freeway on a Sunday. He finally made it to Sturgess and back after he got his Harley fixed. I told if he had planned on taking long motorcycle trips he should have bought a Honda. I never got tired of hearing stories about his Harley misadventures for the next 20 years.
My experience has not been bad with H-D in regard to breakdowns considering the miles I've put on them. I live in Pa. For background, I've ridden them to 49 states. First longish trip was to Juarez in 85'. 2002 rode around the perimeter of the United States. 2006 made a solo run to Alaska. Rode them to all four points of the compass in the United States as far as you can go on paved road. All of the lower Canadian Provinces from British Columbia to Nova Scotia plus the Yukon. Death Valley to Denali.
Broke down in Delaware riding a 1983 XLX100 Sportster in 1983. Control module went out. Had been giving me issues for days before but thought it was a fuel problem. My bad.
Fried a battery in 1985 on a 1985 FXWG in Buena Vista Colorado. Bought a replacement at a gas station there (Sunday) same day. Not the bike's fault I reckon. This bike had wires to the ignition switch break their connectors and bike would not start after a gas fill-up in Kentucky 17 years later. Back on road rikki-tic. Same year the switch itself failed in my garage. Ignition pickup split open and bulged out whitish silicon material. Left me sit less than a quarter mile from my house. Sold bike for what I paid for it 17 years earlier.
2002 FatBoy traded at 75K. Made the perimeter and Alaska runs. No issues.
2008ish. Moncton, Canada. Heavy rains gave me sporadic operation on a 2007 FatBoy. Rode it to a dealership there and they traced it to wiring for my auxillary lights which were installed by my dealer in Pa. Back on the road in a short time with no charges.
284 just visit your local dealerships parts room and read the genuine HD parts made in China,India etc.Course they won't actually let you inside that parts room.For every HD that's ridden 50K,5500 metric bikes are ridden 100K just look at the market if HD was this superior brand why do metric brands have market share? Why does HD have a plant in India? Read the fine print "Assembled in Usa" don't mean "Made in Usa".
284 just visit your local dealerships parts room and read the genuine HD parts made in China,India etc.Course they won't actually let you inside that parts room.For every HD that's ridden 50K,5500 metric bikes are ridden 100K just look at the market if HD was this superior brand why do metric brands have market share? Why does HD have a plant in India? Read the fine print "Assembled in Usa" don't mean "Made in Usa".
Rather than start an argument may I suggest that you look into the number of vendor items used in the assembly of,say, a USA automobile.
You stated that the bikes aren't made in the USA which in fact they are.
There are people that ride Harleys, and then there are people that wish they did, but make one excuse or another why they don't.
Ya It pisses me off every time I go get parts for mine at the dealer and they have to take the made in China tags off of everything.
I'd worry more about living in Caliotoe than Harley parts made in China
I do not worry about the Parts being made in China. As for Communist Mexifornia well that is where I am right now but not for ever.
Everyone wants American made not just by name only.
At one time (I do not know about the present time) Toyota was the most made car in the USA but people would not buy them because they were Japanese owned.
We can all find faults with everything if we look far enough.
I am a Harley rider. What others want to ride is their business and I do not look down on them for choosing what they want. That is their choice.
There are people that ride Harleys, and then there are people that wish they did, but make one excuse or another why they don't.
Ya It pisses me off every time I go get parts for mine at the dealer and they have to take the made in China tags off of everything.
Bull chit. Other than the chrome bling name me one hard part that is made in China. Japan yes, The suspension and gauges are made in Japan. Frames, powertrain and sheet metal are made in the US.
I'd worry more about living in Caliotoe than Harley parts made in China
Many years ago when I started working for HD I stated that their plants in the future would no longer be manufacturing facilities but rather would be assembly plants. This was met with hostility and disbelief but it has come to be the norm for many of our industries.
There are many, many components that go into the making of Harleys from Australia,Great Britain, Japan, Germany, Canada and even Switzerland but China made parts are in there as well.
Welcome to the new USA manufacturing base. I believe it's here to stay.
284 just visit your local dealerships parts room and read the genuine HD parts made in China,India etc.Course they won't actually let you inside that parts room.For every HD that's ridden 50K,5500 metric bikes are ridden 100K just look at the market if HD was this superior brand why do metric brands have market share? Why does HD have a plant in India? Read the fine print "Assembled in Usa" don't mean "Made in Usa".
You do not have a clue what you are talking about. I have been in the motorcycle business for 45 years. I own a shop. How many photos do you want me to upload of Harley parts boxes? I see them every day.
You guys can have your Harleys. I've never seen the draw to just cruising around. I did have a motorcycle in college, and it sure was nice to use to get an easy parking spot near class, but never did see the allure of the "open road". I do like cruising around on my dirt bike, seeing where two track roads go though.
IDK, I otta let it go, but just pizzes me that everytime a Harley is mentioned, we gotta have snowflake types bitchin and moaning, like a buncha crybabies, typing on their PC or phone made in China, driving vehicles with at the least parts made world wide.
Wow, mention harley and you fire up quite a dispute, draw out all the haters and such. lol!
It is what it is.
I purchased a nice looking light weight harley jacket about 4-5 years back. I put it on in the store and then rode about 100 miles home. The jacket literally fell apart on my 100 mile ride home, hahahaha! Yeah I returned it and ordered a Fox river jacket, very high quality. I guess the jacket I got at the dealer was for posers that just need a neat jacket to wear at the bar or something.
Anyways...
Back to the original topic.
My uncle passed away a few years back. We were close, had a lot of fun together, lots of good quality family stuff.
When Dusty (my uncle) was a kid, he had a 40's model harley. He sold that bike when he was a kid. He was out of bikes for many years. Later on in the early 90's he got himself a new Sporty. Nice little bike, he rode it a lot on his work commute.
Then in around 96, he learned of the new Heritage Springer classic that would be released in 97. He was instantly in love, it reminded him of his 40's model Harley he had when he was young. He ordered one and patiently waited for the bike. He even got a big poster sized framed photo of the model in his color which had his serial number stamped on a plate for the artwork.
It's a stock carbed EVO with a set of fish tail slip on pipes.
Here's the bike.
That is me on the bike. The photo was taken on the day of Dusty's funeral. I rode the bike to the church where his funeral was held.
I rode the bike one other time between that funeral ride and today, it was having carb issues. That was a couple of years ago.
I know I'll have to pull the carb and give it a thorough cleaning. I'll change all fluids and filter, including brake fluid. The bike is in excellent condition with low miles. It just needs to be cleaned, detailed, serviced, and rode.
We are purchasing the bike from the family. I'm very excited and proud for the opportunity. I may try to bring the bike home next weekend.
Don't hate HD or most of the folks that ride them.HD has a factory in Bawal India no hoax it really is there. HD markets All American awesomeness...yet no one can explain why metric bikes flourish? Could it be folks would rather pay 12K for metric than 18K for HD? Simply look at hat brands folks that ride daily as transportation not showpieces
I never get tired of dumbasses badmouthing Harleys.
One of the purest forms of entertainment.
You sound like a good friend of mine who bought a Harley after we both retired. He spent a fortune on his new Harley, bought a whole new wardrobe at the local Harley shop, got some tattoos and headed to the big rally in Sturgess with some other Harley addicts. He made it from Austin to Denver where he broke down on the freeway on a Sunday. He finally made it to Sturgess and back after he got his Harley fixed. I told if he had planned on taking long motorcycle trips he should have bought a Honda. I never got tired of hearing stories about his Harley misadventures for the next 20 years.
Yep. You're on of them. See above.
I've been riding bikes since probably long before you were born. 50 years. Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Honda, Zundapp, you name it. Never have a bad word for any of them. Hell, I loved 'em all. And may get another Jap dirt bike or hybrid when I move up to the mountains after I retire.
Also just found out that one of our long time Fire members (284LUVR) may have actually built my bike. How cool is that? BTW- I've owned my Harley since it came off the showroom floor 21 years ago. It doesn't leak oil and has not left me stranded. And it's far from stock.
The Harley threads always become so hostile. Why ?
Here's a rear view of my hot rod Sportster which has run 9.1 @ 143 in the quarter mile but if I were to buy a bike tomorrow it would be a Beemer. Each to his/her own. Shrug. Peace.
The Harley threads always become so hostile. Why ?
Here's a rear view of my hot rod Sportster which has run 9.1 @ 143 in the quarter mile but if I were to buy a bike tomorrow it would be a Beemer. Each to his/her own. Shrug. Peace.
Don't have but a few pics as my old laptop ate 'em
The timeslips said it had 8.90s in it but my screwdriver just wouldn't work right for some reason. LOL Putting a new Bandit Machine lock up in it in this pic.
Another bike I really want is a Triumph Tiger explorer XC
I really want one of those.
That Heritage Springer is definitely a keeper, especially with the family connection. I have a 2003 FXDL and 99 Honda VFR. The Harley is more nostalgic, which I like, but the Honda rides, handles and stops better and for me is a little more fun to ride day in and out. I commute some and like the capabilities of the Honda better in heavy traffic. Better braking, acceleration and handling to get out of a tight spot. Both are good reliable bikes in my experience but I'm thinking of trading the Harley for a BMW 1200 GS or RT for long-distance touring and commuting.
For those that are talking about the factory in India, I believe that is where Harley makes the new 750 Street model. I could be wrong but don't think Big Twins are made there.
Don't hate HD or most of the folks that ride them.HD has a factory in Bawal India no hoax it really is there. HD markets All American awesomeness...yet no one can explain why metric bikes flourish? Could it be folks would rather pay 12K for metric than 18K for HD? Simply look at hat brands folks that ride daily as transportation not showpieces
I think Harley probably outsells all other brands in the US. I believe the Harley Street Glide is the most popular bike here right now.
Wow, mention harley and you fire up quite a dispute, draw out all the haters and such. lol!
It is what it is.
I purchased a nice looking light weight harley jacket about 4-5 years back. I put it on in the store and then rode about 100 miles home. The jacket literally fell apart on my 100 mile ride home, hahahaha! Yeah I returned it and ordered a Fox river jacket, very high quality. I guess the jacket I got at the dealer was for posers that just need a neat jacket to wear at the bar or something.
Anyways...
Back to the original topic.
My uncle passed away a few years back. We were close, had a lot of fun together, lots of good quality family stuff.
When Dusty (my uncle) was a kid, he had a 40's model harley. He sold that bike when he was a kid. He was out of bikes for many years. Later on in the early 90's he got himself a new Sporty. Nice little bike, he rode it a lot on his work commute.
Then in around 96, he learned of the new Heritage Springer classic that would be released in 97. He was instantly in love, it reminded him of his 40's model Harley he had when he was young. He ordered one and patiently waited for the bike. He even got a big poster sized framed photo of the model in his color which had his serial number stamped on a plate for the artwork.
It's a stock carbed EVO with a set of fish tail slip on pipes.
Here's the bike.
That is me on the bike. The photo was taken on the day of Dusty's funeral. I rode the bike to the church where his funeral was held.
I rode the bike one other time between that funeral ride and today, it was having carb issues. That was a couple of years ago.
I know I'll have to pull the carb and give it a thorough cleaning. I'll change all fluids and filter, including brake fluid. The bike is in excellent condition with low miles. It just needs to be cleaned, detailed, serviced, and rode.
We are purchasing the bike from the family. I'm very excited and proud for the opportunity. I may try to bring the bike home next weekend.
Cool! I had a feeling you would end up with that bike.
The India factory is to build bikes for non-US sale. No HD sold in the US is made off shore.
As to "market share" - Harley Davidson has 51% off all motorcycle sales over 600cc in the US. That's not cruiser sales but ALL sales regardless of style/brand. ADV, crotch rocket, nakeds, sport touring, bagger, super moto etc.
Over 1/2 are Harley Davidson.
MC sales are down from their peak before the recession but put it this way - Triumph or Ducati's best year in the US is about 15,000 units a year. Harley will sell that in 2-3 weeks. Literally.
Italian fuel injection was basically 1-2 years, HD scrapped it and it's Delphi now IIRC and has been for about 10 years.
Yep pre-07 twin cams had tentioner issues and I wish they'd tighten up their run out specs for flywheels but the twinkie is a good motor. The new M8 with a 120 kit on a stock bottom end is 150+ hp and torque from aftermarket guys that say there's still more to be had in the heads.
The India factory is to build bikes for non-US sale. No HD sold in the US is made off shore.
As to "market share" - Harley Davidson has 51% off all motorcycle sales over 600cc in the US. That's not cruiser sales but ALL sales regardless of style/brand. ADV, crotch rocket, nakeds, sport touring, bagger, super moto etc.
Over 1/2 are Harley Davidson.
MC sales are down from their peak before the recession but put it this way - Triumph or Ducati's best year in the US is about 15,000 units a year. Harley will sell that in 2-3 weeks. Literally.
Italian fuel injection was basically 1-2 years, HD scrapped it and it's Delphi now IIRC and has been for about 10 years.
Yep pre-07 twin cams had tentioner issues and I wish they'd tighten up their run out specs for flywheels but the twinkie is a good motor. The new M8 with a 120 kit on a stock bottom end is 150+ hp and torque from aftermarket guys that say there's still more to be had in the heads.
Actually the India plant does produce the street 500 and street 750 that are sold in the US. They are assembled in Kansas city but all major components are India or Asian pacific in origin.
Nearly all Harley Davidsons,other than the street, sold overseas is a US produced bike no different than what would be sold to a US buyer. It might be assembled in India or Brazil. To avoid insane tariffs bikes are shipped in CKD form,complete knockdown, and assembled in those countries. Some bikes are shipped as complete units depending on model and which country they are going to.
Don't have but a few pics as my old laptop ate 'em
The timeslips said it had 8.90s in it but my screwdriver just wouldn't work right for some reason. LOL Putting a new Bandit Machine lock up in it in this pic.
Do you bump rev limiter on the start line, then release with a trans brake or foot brake it?
Regardless, I bet it a double handful of fun, I was looking hard at getting into Nitro Harleys till one weekend morning Wifey came up and wrapped both her little hands around one of mine and ask "Please Don't Do That"
I took that as a voice of reason and sanity and stopped my pursuit of the subject!
My uncle passed away a few years back. We were close, had a lot of fun together, lots of good quality family stuff.
When Dusty (my uncle) was a kid, he had a 40's model harley. He sold that bike when he was a kid. He was out of bikes for many years. Later on in the early 90's he got himself a new Sporty. Nice little bike, he rode it a lot on his work commute.
Then in around 96, he learned of the new Heritage Springer classic that would be released in 97. He was instantly in love, it reminded him of his 40's model Harley he had when he was young. He ordered one and patiently waited for the bike. He even got a big poster sized framed photo of the model in his color which had his serial number stamped on a plate for the artwork.
It's a stock carbed EVO with a set of fish tail slip on pipes.
Here's the bike.
That is me on the bike. The photo was taken on the day of Dusty's funeral. I rode the bike to the church where his funeral was held.
I rode the bike one other time between that funeral ride and today, it was having carb issues. That was a couple of years ago.
I know I'll have to pull the carb and give it a thorough cleaning. I'll change all fluids and filter, including brake fluid. The bike is in excellent condition with low miles. It just needs to be cleaned, detailed, serviced, and rode.
We are purchasing the bike from the family. I'm very excited and proud for the opportunity. I may try to bring the bike home next weekend.
The newer ones ain't anything like the old bikes.. I've got over 22,000 on my '14 UC and there's never a spot of anything under that bike..
I did spend a bit to get new headers, pipes, intake and tuned last fall.. Made it a whole new machine. Torque hits at 2,000 rpm and the line on the graph goes literally straight north.. Took a couple weeks for the grin to leave my face..
I'll be on it in about 5 weeks heading for the D.C. Memorial Day ride for veterans - one more 'bucket list' checkoff..
All my joking about hating H-D aside, cause I don't, I just like bikes:
My brother still has his old '75 Sportster and an Indian Arrow.
This India Army Model Royal Enfield was fun if you never went over 50. The mechs at the Harley shop always came out and asked to kick start her. Some lady in a Nissan told the cops "I didn't see him" in a parking lot and parked her car on top of it. Luckily, I jumped clear as she smashed it.
Current toy. Nope, I don't have a Harley anymore. This is fun though. Probably my last bike before I get too crampy to lift my leg over. I will NEVER own a tricycle.
I once got a rejection notice which had a pic of a white springer soft-tail from HD.
Just as well. The only reason I sent in my resume' was because I met this woman up there that I wanted to hose on a regular basis.
In retrospect, her pussy wasn't good enough to put up with 60" of snow a year.
Well,...it probably was at age 40,.....but much beyond that a woman has to have some seriously good pussy to make a man tolerate a blizzard on Easter Sunday every year.
Nope. Used a "two step". Hold the throttle WFO with clutch pulled in on the line. Module is set to a pre set RPM and it will only go WFO after the clutch is released. Also used a shift minder and shift counter. Very consistent runs if the rider does his/her part.
My son just bought himself a VROD. It is all black, even the engine. I don't know where it is made but Porsche engineers helped design it from what I hear.
I was able to look things over yesterday, drained the old fuel out of the tanks, cleaned the carb, tried to charge battery but it wouldn't take a charge. I'll pick up a battery this week and likely ride the bike home next weekend.
Dave, check for any weapage around the balance tubes at the front of the tanks where the fitting is brazed to the tank. There was an issue with them around that time.
Dave, check for any weapage around the balance tubes at the front of the tanks where the fitting is brazed to the tank. There was an issue with them around that time.
I looked that over yesterday when I was draining the tanks, looked good. I need to pick up an air cleaner this week, maybe an engine oil change and filter would be a good idea as well.
I'm looking at AGM type battery for the bike, anybody use them in motor bikes?
Go AGM Dave. I put one in my 4 wheeler over 3 years ago. Still going strong. Cost is a little more, but well worth it. I don't even have the bike on a tender. It starts every time even after sitting for months. Was going through lead/acid every other year. You won't be disappointed.
Dam nice Bike Dave! I rode one almost like that, about 15 years ago for a buddie, he bought the bike and was afraid to ride it the 35 miles to his house! I was happy to do it! I did ride thru 2 diffrent parks on the way back, while he followed in his pickup, didnt want to park it! Have fun with it and be Safe!
I'm looking at AGM type battery for the bike, anybody use them in motor bikes?
Go AGM Dave. I put one in my 4 wheeler over 3 years ago. Still going strong. Cost is a little more, but well worth it. I don't even have the bike on a tender. It starts every time even after sitting for months. Was going through lead/acid every other year. You won't be disappointed.
I would normally pull the choke a bit for engine warm up to keep the rpm up a bit higher, but I was enjoying the fact that she'd run down that low. It made me feel good about the carb rebuild because that idle port inboard of the butterfly is the clogginest of cloggins.
If it pulled fuel properly that low, then things went well with the carb work.
That and the bottom end goes clunk, clunk, clunk with hot oil. Valve train doesn't like it at all. Everything should work in harmony. Not very technical but true.
I would normally pull the choke a bit for engine warm up to keep the rpm up a bit higher, but I was enjoying the fact that she'd run down that low. It made me feel good about the carb rebuild because that idle port inboard of the butterfly is the clogginest of cloggins.
If it pulled fuel properly that low, then things went well with the carb work.
That and the bottom end goes clunk, clunk, clunk with hot oil. Valve train doesn't like it at all. Everything should work in harmony. Not very technical but true.
I would normally pull the choke a bit for engine warm up to keep the rpm up a bit higher, but I was enjoying the fact that she'd run down that low. It made me feel good about the carb rebuild because that idle port inboard of the butterfly is the clogginest of cloggins.
If it pulled fuel properly that low, then things went well with the carb work.
Did ya try those links ?
Yes I did, are you a believer in the carb mods and jetting up?
I was just curious, every tech article I have read or watched they are jetting up without even reading the plugs.
Was HD notoriously lean in jetting? =====================================================================================
My early 90s carb bikes up till they went to FI were notoriously lean to comply with the emission regs. Was a real pisser to make a quick stop for coffee or a sammie and the engine didn't want to restart when warm.
Don't get rid of that CV carb as it's very smooth.