Her gender has come here on 24hr a number of times with guys claiming she's a transvestite. No more. She's 20 weeks pregnant. I've never heard of any operation that will allow a man to get pregnant.
You're welcome to store this info in your 'I don't give a damn' file.
Her gender has come here on 24hr a number of times with guys claiming she's a transvestite. No more. She's 20 weeks pregnant. I've never heard of any operation that will allow a man to get pregnant.
You're welcome to store this info in your 'I don't give a damn' file.
Her gender has come here on 24hr a number of times with guys claiming she's a transvestite. No more. She's 20 weeks pregnant. I've never heard of any operation that will allow a man to get pregnant.
You're welcome to store this info in your 'I don't give a damn' file.
No disrespect to Serena, but I think mounting that could be a little intimidating and perhaps tough to match up with physically. I think I'd just bend her over.
No disrespect to Serena, but I think mounting that could be a little intimidating and perhaps tough to match up with physically. I think I'd just bend her over.
Yeah. Bend her over and let Rover take over. Let it him give her a bone of his own. Better than getting behind and giving her thine.
I pay no attention to tennis, but I've seen pictures and short vid clips of her. She's a big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs.) I wouldn't call her ugly; in fact, she's fairly attractive.
Unless you happen to be a bigot, of course. In that case, her skin (ahem) colors your judgment.
I pay no attention to tennis, but I've seen pictures and short vid clips of her. She's a big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs.) I wouldn't call her ugly; in fact, she's fairly attractive.
Unless you happen to be a bigot, of course. In that case, her skin (ahem) colors your judgment.
I'm with Rocky. Serena is certainly not my type, but she's far from ugly. She has an elegance to her bearing and she is obviously very healthy, energetic, agile and fit. She's got nothing to be ashamed of even if she doesn't have strawberry blonde tresses and freckles.
I pay no attention to tennis, but I've seen pictures and short vid clips of her. She's a big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs.) I wouldn't call her ugly; in fact, she's fairly attractive.
Unless you happen to be a bigot, of course. In that case, her skin (ahem) colors your judgment.
Yep..and I'm sure she GAF what a bunch of random people think either
Serena Williams' Nipples Cause A Stir At Wimbledon
The nipples are out and people are noticing! She may have just secured her place in the Wimbledon final, but Serena Williams' nipples (instead of her backstroke) seemed to be making headlines this morning! The tennis champ caused a stir when she donned on tight white tank that appeared to show her nipples during her semi final match yesterday. Sadly instead of noting that Serena is on her way to the finals (which if she wins would end up being her 22nd Grand Slam victory), many tennis fans took to social media to complain that they were "distracted" by Serena's nipples showing through her tennis whites. While some trolls (who really need something better to do with their time), other fans came to her defense and told body-shamers to "grow up" and stop commenting on the sports star's appearance. We agree with the people who came to Selena's defense -- we should be focusing on the 34-year-old's record breaking achievement, which was beating Russia's Elena Vesnina 6-2, 6-0 in 49 minutes, making it the fastest ever defeat at a Wimbledon semi-final -- and not the fact that she just wore a shirt that maybe highlighted the outline of her nipples!
I pay no attention to tennis, but I've seen pictures and short vid clips of her. She's a big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs.) I wouldn't call her ugly; in fact, she's fairly attractive.
Unless you happen to be a bigot, of course. In that case, her skin (ahem) colors your judgment.
I pay no attention to tennis, but I've seen pictures and short vid clips of her. She's a big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs.) I wouldn't call her ugly; in fact, she's fairly attractive.
Unless you happen to be a bigot, of course. In that case, her skin (ahem) colors your judgment.
I pay no attention to tennis, but I've seen pictures and short vid clips of her. She's a big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs.) I wouldn't call her ugly; in fact, she's fairly attractive.
Unless you happen to be a bigot, of course. In that case, her skin (ahem) colors your judgment.
I agree
I agree, if you find " big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs" attractive. I don't...even if it's a former first lady.
I pay no attention to tennis, but I've seen pictures and short vid clips of her. She's a big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs.) I wouldn't call her ugly; in fact, she's fairly attractive.
Unless you happen to be a bigot, of course. In that case, her skin (ahem) colors your judgment.
I pay no attention to tennis, but I've seen pictures and short vid clips of her. She's a big, hard-muscled athlete for sure (Her bio says she's 5'9" and 155 lbs.) I wouldn't call her ugly; in fact, she's fairly attractive.
Unless you happen to be a bigot, of course. In that case, her skin (ahem) colors your judgment.
Serena could not be called 'attractive' on her best day, and that has zero to do with her color.
All told, this is probably the stupidest thread in ages.
For the longest time, I thought she was Mike Tyson wearing a padded bra and one o'them cheap ass "weave" rugs that they sell back on aisle 17 at the Target store.
I never did stay on a channel that she was on very long. I figured she was callin' herself "Typaul" or some such chit.
Her gender has come here on 24hr a number of times with guys claiming she's a transvestite. No more. She's 20 weeks pregnant. I've never heard of any operation that will allow a man to get pregnant.
You're welcome to store this info in your 'I don't give a damn' file.
No disrespect to Serena, but I think mounting that could be a little intimidating and perhaps tough to match up with physically. I think I'd just bend over.
She's no beauty that's for sure but still probably better looking than anything you wrinkly old geezers have banged in the last 30 years.
You are crazy. Bad batchitt crazy. It must be frightening what youve been through to make a statement like that. My wife ten years from now will make that look like a turd on two corner posts.
You just made me feel sorry for you. Man, Im sorry.
Her gender has come here on 24hr a number of times with guys claiming she's a transvestite. No more. She's 20 weeks pregnant. I've never heard of any operation that will allow a man to get pregnant.
You're welcome to store this info in your 'I don't give a damn' file.
A person could reach a reasonable conclusion that Serena Williams is either doping or has an unnatural level of testosterone.Normal women aren't able to develop such muscle without the use of ergogenic substances.
A person could reach a reasonable conclusion that Serena Williams is either doping or has an unnatural level of testosterone.Normal women aren't able to develop such muscle without the use of ergogenic substances.
Novak Djokovic
Normal women don't remain one of the best athletes in the world for 20 years either. Normal women don't compete at her level for even 1 minute.
She is beyond impressive. Maybe not the most conventionally attractive woman out there, but she is physical specimen for sure.
I have a good customer that is built just like her. She is a white chick that is just packed with muscle, despite rarely working out. On the plus side, she is a pretty girl with quite a unique look.
No disrespect to Serena, but I think mounting that could be a little intimidating and perhaps tough to match up with physically. I think I'd just bend her over.
Normal women don't remain one of the best athletes in the world for 20 years either. Normal women don't compete at her level for even 1 minute.
She is beyond impressive. Maybe not the most conventionally attractive woman out there, but she is physical specimen for sure.
Normal women don't remain one of the best athletes in the world for 20 years either.Except if they're doping.
Normal women don't compete at her level for even 1 minute.Bullchit.When maria Sharapova was 17 years old she beat Serena Williams.Williams has lost 130 matches in her career.
She is beyond impressive.Maybe for a doper.
Maybe not the most conventionally attractive woman out there, but she is physical specimen for sure.Again,maybe for a doper.
I have a good customer that is built just like her. She is a white chick that is just packed with muscle, despite rarely working out. On the plus side, she is a pretty girl with quite a unique look.
"A person could reach a reasonable conclusion that Serena Williams is either doping or has an unnatural level of testosterone.Normal women aren't able to develop such muscle without the use of ergogenic substances."
Sportingspecialist you are correct sir. I have always thought that those sisters were shooting testosterone. God don't give muscles like that to a woman.
But she wins all these titles. What, it would be racist to do a doping test on a black female? I guess so.
I am 66 years old. In my mis spent youth I banged some beautiful women, several Playboy centerfold class, though they were just innocent college girls.
Now I have had the same girlfriend for 20 years so naturally, I don't get around with the girls like I used to. But, whether I was a 24 year old college soccer player, or a 66 year old truck driver, I wouldn't touch either of those sisters with a ten foot pole! They are ugly as hell and look like men. Wouldn't f*** 'em with your d***.
How a millionaire Jewboy would match up with that thing is beyond me, he must have a screw loose. Probably closet gay who really wanted to marry a man. And what must his mother think? Big deal to Jewish mamas that their boy marry "a good Jewish girl."
And this guy not only got a "shiksa" but a "schwartzer!" One consolation for the Jewish mama, at least the bride is rich.
If you'd care to look, there are quite a number of women who have that genetic build that aren't on the juice. The difference is that while Serena is a world class athlete that trains consestently, most others with this build get fat!
I predict this is what will happen to Serena when she retires. She will pack on the the pounds and be a robust, mega butt, black chick. Tell me you haven't seen any of those? If you grab one of those and train them and lean them out, you get Serena.
Should have read the whole post. Saw all the 'christians' posting and thought it was about that Jesus dude who they claim is so awesome and who has changed their lives so much...
If you'd care to look, there are quite a number of women who have that genetic build that aren't on the juice. The difference is that while Serena is a world class athlete that trains consestently, most others with this build get fat!
I predict this is what will happen to Serena when she retires. She will pack on the the pounds and be a robust, mega butt, black chick. Tell me you haven't seen any of those? If you grab one of those and train them and lean them out, you get Serena.
That's hog-wash.When she is competing,she attains extraordinary size and muscularity.This indicates she dopes during her season.Tennis doesn't provide the necessary activity/resistance to create such size on a female.Look at the male athletes in that sport and you'll witness the type of physical appearance that comes from playing tennis..
When Williams is off season she appears to be just another self indulgent,fat woman.
Compare the pictures below with her off season appearance and then with the picture of her competing.
If you'd care to look, there are quite a number of women who have that genetic build that aren't on the juice.
No, she's not even built like top women's bodybuilding competitors. She has the physique of a man. Her lower waist curve starts below her bellybutton. That's a male characteristic. It cannot be changed with drugs.
sportingspecialist, please tell me how to lift a picture from another site and post it on a forum, without saving to a picture file. I do that all the time and it is a pain in the ass to go to photobucket every time.
sportingspecialist is right, again. Look at the male tennis stars, none of them has biceps like this "girl."
sportingspecialist are you involved in the medical field? You are astute and well-informed on this matter.
I've been involved in physical fitness all of my adult life.To that extent I've read literally several hundred books on various topics such as exercise physiology,structural Kinesiology ,nutrition,medical herbalism, homeopathy,alternative healing and conventional medicine.I've also read several books on the use of anabolic steroids and Williams fits the profile of a steroid abuser.
I've also read thousands of pages of published research papers on the above topics.
An adult life spent heaping ignorance on ignorance does not an expert make.
Do you have a personal opinion on what is "strong"? Have you ever been around any strong women? Watched them lift/train? Watched them get stronger? Seen them have arm definition and deltoids? Have you ever been strong? Have you ever let the strength and bulk slip away and then marvel at how fast it comes back? Did it occur to you that some tennis players do more than play tennis to train? Did it occur to you that explosive wielding of a racket by a female requires strength training? Do you know what a diminishing return is, in terms of male strength? Like perhaps, your djokovik hero makes enough racket speed at his current level of strength?
I married a NAIA collegiate all-American discus thrower (3rd in nation) and 2-time shot putter (3rd one year, 4th another). Her best HS sport was basketball and she was a D1 prospect/recruit. She walked on the college volleyball team and played 4yrs of reserve outside hitter, with the highest vertical jump on the team. The college football receivers and DBs did not like doing their Olympic lifts on the same platform with her...she's the product of colliding size, strength and speed genes from both of her parents. Doping for her was farm food and throwing beaucoup hay (making the hired help look bad) while growing up.
She's not a WC tennis player, but I bet she was stronger, back in the day.
Claims of doping are typically made by those with limited knowledge and/or personal physical achievement, IME.
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
sportingspecialist is right, again. Look at the male tennis stars, none of them has biceps like this "girl."
sportingspecialist are you involved in the medical field? You are astute and well-informed on this matter.
I've been involved in physical fitness all of my adult life.To that extent I've read literally several hundred books on various topics such as exercise physiology,structural Kinesiology ,nutrition,medical herbalism, homeopathy,alternative healing and conventional medicine.I've also read several books on the use of anabolic steroids and Williams fits the profile of a steroid abuser.
I've also read thousands of pages of published research papers on the above topics.
I have no idea what she's taking, but I'd never accuse her of it without real proof. A picture is not proof... An observation, many older folks have not been around women who grew up doing what used to be guy things. Competing in sports from young ages, strength training, etc. The more I learn, the less I'm surprised.
sportingspecialist, please tell me how to lift a picture from another site and post it on a forum, without saving to a picture file. I do that all the time and it is a pain in the ass to go to photobucket every time.
Don't have any kids to teach me.
Right click on the photo and choose 'save image address'. Then paste that into the forum as a photo. There are a couple things: it must be a jpg or png file if it's on some forums or facebook, it might not work. I've had problems sometimes. if it's from an email, it won't work when the email is closed.
OK, Vek, now tell us how Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France legally, he wasn't taking dope.
How can you look at that giant female with biceps like an NFL linebacker, and believe she came by that honestly. Give me a break, you are a naive man.
That giant female is 5'9"; if you knew anything, you'd know it's easy to look ripped when that short. She'd look like a dwarf next to a 6'3" 245lb linebacker.
It is apparent that you have no experience in these matters. You've not spent time around strong and athletic people. Ignorance is bliss.
If you'd care to look, there are quite a number of women who have that genetic build that aren't on the juice.
No, she's not even built like top women's bodybuilding competitors. She has the physique of a man. Her lower waist curve starts below her bellybutton. That's a male characteristic. It cannot be changed with drugs.
Normal women don't compete at her level for even 1 minute.Bullchit.When maria Sharapova was 17 years old she beat Serena Williams.Williams has lost 130 matches in her career.
I've been involved in physical fitness all of my adult life.To that extent I've read literally several hundred books on various topics such as exercise physiology,structural Kinesiology ,nutrition,medical herbalism, homeopathy,alternative healing and conventional medicine.I've also read several books on the use of anabolic steroids and Williams fits the profile of a steroid abuser.
I've also read thousands of pages of published research papers on the above topics.
With all the reading you've done I'm sure you had Sharapova pegged years ago.
I've been involved in physical fitness all of my adult life.To that extent I've read literally several hundred books on various topics such as exercise physiology,structural Kinesiology ,nutrition,medical herbalism, homeopathy,alternative healing and conventional medicine.I've also read several books on the use of anabolic steroids and Williams fits the profile of a steroid abuser.
I've also read thousands of pages of published research papers on the above topics.
With all the reading you've done I'm sure you had Sharapova pegged years ago.
Dang, you must be a big fan to save photos and pay such close attention.
Apparently you're not smart enough to figure how to lift a picture from another site and post it here,without saving to any picture file.
Ask your kids,they may know how to accomplish this.
No, it's just that I recognize a fan (look at the origin of the word) when I see one. And I've never had a need to lift pictures from one internet site and post them on another. It's not something I do. And I've never really been concerned about what Serena Williams does or doesn't do, at least not like some of you guys here.
This thread (as well as a lot of other campfire gems) is a lot like watching the view.
Well, I've never watched The View. Just the thought of Rosie and Whoopie gives me mental hemorrhoids.
Yet your interested enough in whether an ugly n e g r o tennis player has a dick or not to start a thread about it.
Not at all. It's just that the question of whether she's a woman or a man comes up regularly here. I saw that she was pregger and posted it for the benefit of those who question what she is. Personally, I couldn't care less about her.
I've been involved in physical fitness all of my adult life.To that extent I've read literally several hundred books on various topics such as exercise physiology,structural Kinesiology ,nutrition,medical herbalism, homeopathy,alternative healing and conventional medicine.I've also read several books on the use of anabolic steroids and Williams fits the profile of a steroid abuser.
I've also read thousands of pages of published research papers on the above topics.
With all the reading you've done I'm sure you had Sharapova pegged years ago.
Does anyone know what person is the most tested for drugs in tennis whether man or woman?
Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer, and Serena Williams are the most tested pro tennis players. They are tested both on and off court. Off court testing is more prevalent than tournament testing.
An adult life spent heaping ignorance on ignorance does not an expert make. Do you have a personal opinion on what is "strong"? Have you ever been around any strong women? Watched them lift/train? Watched them get stronger? Seen them have arm definition and deltoids? Have you ever been strong? Have you ever let the strength and bulk slip away and then marvel at how fast it comes back? Did it occur to you that some tennis players do more than play tennis to train? Did it occur to you that explosive wielding of a racket by a female requires strength training? Do you know what a diminishing return is, in terms of male strength? Like perhaps, your djokovik hero makes enough racket speed at his current level of strength? I married a NAIA collegiate all-American discus thrower (3rd in nation) and 2-time shot putter (3rd one year, 4th another). Her best HS sport was basketball and she was a D1 prospect/recruit. She walked on the college volleyball team and played 4yrs of reserve outside hitter, with the highest vertical jump on the team. The college football receivers and DBs did not like doing their Olympic lifts on the same platform with her...she's the product of colliding size, strength and speed genes from both of her parents. Doping for her was farm food and throwing beaucoup hay (making the hired help look bad) while growing up. She's not a WC tennis player, but I bet she was stronger, back in the day. Claims of doping are typically made by those with limited knowledge and/or personal physical achievement, IME.
Your argument consists of a claim that your wife was a college athlete and the male football players didn't want to lift with her there apparently because she was stronger.LOL.Because of these claims you then intimate that Williams is not doping.Perhaps in your next post you can elevate yourself from an imbecile to a moron.
Then there's her strong objection to drug testing with her claim "that women don't take steroids".LOL.A very strange statement considering all of the drugs athletes could abuse Williams focused on steroids.She also raised similar objections before the 2004 Olympics in Athens until the WTA gave in. However,the IOC did not give in and required that Williams be tested.Williams then withdrew from the games and avoided being tested.
The incident in 2011 also indicates that she has something to hide.A ITF doping control officer arrived at her home and announced who he was.Williams ran to her panic room and called the police.Upon the police arriving the ITF officer explained who he was but he was still asked to leave.Williams was never tested.As a matter of fact she was never tested in 2010 or 2011.
The cheaters in sports have always remained one step ahead of the tests.Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones are examples of this.They were eventually caught but all during their career they passed multiple tests.
Then there is the matter of her strange injuries such as the pulmonary embolism and hematoma that Williams suffered in March 2011. Since embolisms and DVT's,Deep Vein Thrombosis,are more associated with sedentary lifestyles,it's unusual when healthy athletes develop this condition.There is enough evidence to suggest a link between anabolic steroid use and embolisms in athletes.Anabolic steroid use is one of the biggest risk factors for this condition in athletes.
Serena Williams playing schedule is also suspect.She takes a large amount of time off during the year,playing only a few tournaments other than the Grand Slams.Many sports writers,as well as tennis fans,have questioned how it's possible for a player to dominate the game,while not playing it actively throughout the year.Is it because she needs the time-off for her“doping cycle”?
Then there is the strangest of all incidents during the doubles tournament at Wimbledon in 2014.She was so disoriented that she couldn't even bounce the ball and failed to serve the ball over the net.This behavior is indicative of contraindications of several drugs.Her claim that she was dehydrated is laughable, given the fact that her last match was three days prior to this bizarre incident.
You can dismiss common sense,logic,ample evidence of doping and personal observations in order to excuse Williams manly physical appearance,her roid rages,her suspicious injuries and her bizarre behavior but then you're left with a vacuous and pathetic attempt at defending a doper.
Nowhere did I defend or excuse her - you are projecting your thoughts into my words and calling me an imbecile for it. I have adjectives to describe that sort of behavior on your part, but I'll save them because I'm not an [bleep].
My point is that you can't leap to the "steroids" conclusion without some sort of hard chemical evidence. Looks can be deceiving - that much is obvious to those of us who one way or another have spent significant time around multiple top-percentile female athletic specimens, rather than watching them on teevee.
I'll stand beside the questions I asked of you, and the final comment regarding lack of personal physical/athletic achievement. Doper claims are largely made by those jealous of the achievements of others. You've pointed out all of Serena's physical and behavioral issues, and have issued diagnosis based on your storied and accomplished history of reading about things. What have you DONE?
You don't need a Phd in Biology to figure this one out. Remember the baseball home run race scandal.
You had Bobby Bonds. I remember him playing against my Braves in the playoffs in 1990. He was a great athlete, looked like a college halfback, 6-2 and about 195. He was hitting 20 homers a year.
Ten years later, is 255 with arms the size of oak trees, and he is hitting 65 homers a year? Gee, you don't suppose Bobby was doing steroids, do you? And Mark McGuire. A 52 inch chest and 34 inch waist, suddenly hitting 590 foot home runs. Gee, who would have guessed that he was cheating. Damn guy looked like Superman.
But baseball got their scandal and all those guys got busted. But you didn't have to be a genius to figure it out. Same thing with these two Williams Brothers, obviously shooting testosterone and steroids. But, I am sure it is racist and sexist to do an investigation of a black female.
6'2 195 is the size of an average college defensive back, receiver or kicker... i.e. football's little speedbumps. Everyone else is bigger, with the exception of some novelty running backs and shorter receivers/DBs.
Are you claiming that, without steroids, it's impossible for an otherwise fit and athletic human adult male to put on 60 lean lbs?
(I'll wait for a reply that I'm defending Bonds/McGwire and therefore stupid, from posters who have no reading comprehension.)
And Mark McGuire. A 52 inch chest and 34 inch waist, suddenly hitting 590 foot home runs. Gee, who would have guessed that he was cheating. Damn guy looked like Superman.
One of my coworkers was friends with a player who played for St. Louis for a year and was then traded to the Braves. He asked about McGwire and he told him he had the smallest pecker he had ever seen on a grown man and that it was a running joke in the Cardinals locker room.
Some like a woman you could hitch to a plow some don't. i don't. They don't need to be built like a clydesdale in order to buck bales or shovel manure.
I care not one whit whether any given athlete juices or not. It's all pretty technical now, they're all juicing just whether what particular drug or hormone they are using has been made illegal or not is the game.
Side note, how can anyone find that critter remotely stimulating?
"6'2 195 is the size of an average college defensive back, receiver or kicker... i.e. football's little speedbumps. Everyone else is bigger, with the exception of some novelty running backs and shorter receivers/DBs.
Are you claiming that, without steroids, it's impossible for an otherwise fit and athletic human adult male to put on 60 lean lbs?"
Bonds would have been playing college ball in 1990, football players were smaller back then.
Yes, any man will put on weight between the age of 21 and 31. But he will not gain 60 pounds when he is a full time, all star baseball player. And his arms will not double in size. And, he will not go from 20 home runs, to 65 home runs in a year.
The idea that this is normal is absurd.
I see you bending over backwards to defend the Williams brothers, and now you are asserting that Bonds was not taking steroids? You really do live in la-la land, plus you really like to argue, even when your side of the argument is patently absurd.
Come on, tell the forum how Lance Armstrong was robbed of his legit Tour de France trophies. Good, all-American kid, right?
I can't believe so many "manly" men have so much interest in a tennis player, pro or con. Any of you ladies got a favorite for Dancin' with the Stars too?
Some like a woman you could hitch to a plow some don't. i don't. They don't need to be built like a clydesdale in order to buck bales or shovel manure.
It's a shame that I have to spell it out for you and sportingspecialgenius.
I commented initially about strength training for women, but no woman in particular. Not defending the subject of this string, but to present the notion that focused training on a genetic outlier can yield results that are difficult to accept by those not so blessed and/or those unwilling to work. I live with an outlier, and have watched her and others train. Sounds like they would terrify you, as you've obviously never been around a strong angry woman.
I asked about strength and bulk increase for a generic fit male, sans-steroids (not Bonds specifically). I made a statement foreshadowing your exact response below. Aaaaaaand, you came through.
If you don't think that a generic, unnamed, fit athletic adult male, let alone a 99th percentile specimen like an accomplished professional baseball player, a 40/40 player (one of 4, ever), a 500/500 player, a perennial all star, can put on that sort of strength and bulk over the course of a couple years without roids, then you need to learn more and fanboy the sportingspecialgenius, less. I gained 60 lbs in college (most between age of 20 and 22), playing my last season at d-end at a lean 245lbs. I got about 50% stronger in every tested powerlift. I am by no means a genetic anomaly (unrecruited white walk-on); some freak teammates transformed even more, and faster, because they had a full ride with full cafeteria access and 98th percentile genes. No roids.
Nowhere here or before did I say that the athletes named in this thread didn't roid. You have no proof on williams. McGuire admitted, and I don't recall bonds' exact outcome beyond it seeming real shady. But your stats claim below is way off: http://baseball-almanac.cloudhostedresources.com/?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.baseball-almanac.com%2Fplayers%2Fplayer.php%3Fp%3Dbondsba01&width=1280
Bonds dabbled in the 30s and 40s long before his big season.
You are batting about .200 or less on this thread. Keep swinging.
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
"6'2 195 is the size of an average college defensive back, receiver or kicker... i.e. football's little speedbumps. Everyone else is bigger, with the exception of some novelty running backs and shorter receivers/DBs.
Are you claiming that, without steroids, it's impossible for an otherwise fit and athletic human adult male to put on 60 lean lbs?"
Bonds would have been playing college ball in 1990, football players were smaller back then.
Yes, any man will put on weight between the age of 21 and 31. But he will not gain 60 pounds when he is a full time, all star baseball player. And his arms will not double in size. And, he will not go from 20 home runs, to 65 home runs in a year.
The idea that this is normal is absurd.
I see you bending over backwards to defend the Williams brothers, and now you are asserting that Bonds was not taking steroids? You really do live in la-la land, plus you really like to argue, even when your side of the argument is patently absurd.
Come on, tell the forum how Lance Armstrong was robbed of his legit Tour de France trophies. Good, all-American kid, right?
She has to have 2 X chromosomes to get pregnant. Theoretically, that should counter talk here on 24hr that she's a transvestite.
However...back in the 60's or 70's there was a Russian woman who was kicked out of the Olympics because she had an extra set of chromosomes. She was XXX and they figured that she was some kind of super woman. That's what set off the practice of DNA testing international female athletes. Whenever an extremely talented woman athlete starts beating all the competition, they test her for abnormal DNA, unless she's a man who's had the operation, in which case he's allowed to compete. Tennis player Renee Richardson was a man who was allowed to play big league women's tennis after being whacked.
She may be juicing, she may not be, but she is nonetheless, a gifted athlete. She is really just not all that muscular compared to female bodybuilders and powerlifters, some of whom DO suplement. Some people are just extrordinary. Hard to tell the difference, if they are not hitting the test hard. Either way, it's still a lot of hard work.
Pretty sure my friend Kate might be "supplementing".
Don't most of those competitors? Male and female.
I'm not a bodybuilder, but powerlifting has tested and non tested divisions. At my peak, around 50 and 190 pounds, I was very near the non tested numbers at that time. For my age and weight right now, I think I am over the non tested bench, geared. At a very low ebb in training right now. Some people are just suited for a particular thing.
Before Serena was her sister Venus, she dominated women's tennis including the majors. She wasn't doing roids when she looks like a scarecrow, 6' tall and 110 lbs. She won with talent, a big serve, and heart for the game.
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