Everyone who's saying they do not want a wall and will not support a wall are adamant about it sending the wrong message. It's an ugly reminder. Not something USA folks on the border want...etc, etc. etc....
BUT.....
There's already a freaking wall!!!!!!! If they believe what they're saying shouldn't they lobbying to take down the existing wall!?
Here's what I don't understand. Everyone who's saying they do not want a wall and will not support a wall are adamant about it sending the wrong message. It's an ugly reminder. Not something US folks on the border want...etc, etc. etc....
BUT.....
There's already a freaking wall!!!!!!! If they believe what they're saying shouldn't they lobbying to take down the existing wall!?
How much more screwed up can this possibly be??
Don't believe everything you see on TV. There's not A wall, it's not a reminder of ANYTHING and it's a stupid idea. It's like selling your car to build a picket fence to keep rats out the cookies you leave on the back porch.
My problem with the wall is the expense, we have plenty of issues to spend that sum of money to improve...plus most are running back to Mexico on their own now.
I want a wall. I have never understood the concept of having people just walk into our country. I have a fence around my land and I lock my belongings and doors up. I despise politicians that pander to criminal aliens for votes or illegal cheap labor.
I don't give a $hit if Trump doesn't follow through with a single campaign promise (which I don't believe he has, nor will)...I am just STOKED that the Hildabeast isn't allowed to follow through with hers...
My problem with the wall is the expense, we have plenty of issues to spend that sum of money to improve...plus most are running back to Mexico on their own now.
No wall just arm the border agents with browning 50cal and shoot every pos that steps in the no go zone. Problem solved they will stay home or die. It's our border. [bleep].
I don't give a $hit if Trump doesn't follow through with a single campaign promise (which I don't believe he has, nor will)...I am just STOKED that the Hildabeast isn't allowed to follow through with hers...
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T. if a dink Roosevelt is ever on the list. Let me know.
My problem with the wall is the expense, we have plenty of issues to spend that sum of money to improve...plus most are running back to Mexico on their own now.
No wall just arm the border agents with browning 50cal and shoot every pos that steps in the no go zone. Problem solved they will stay home or die. It's our border. [bleep].
My problem with the wall is the expense, we have plenty of issues to spend that sum of money to improve...plus most are running back to Mexico on their own now.
No wall just arm the border agents with browning 50cal and shoot every pos that steps in the no go zone. Problem solved they will stay home or die. It's our border. [bleep].
Congress isn't going to give Trump money for his wall and Trump has tucked tail and said he would try again in September.
This fraud couldn't make a deal to save his life.
Maybe he's too busy playing 3-D chess to get one darned thing done?
No wall. No repeal and replace. No tax reform. No travel ban.
Tired of winning yet?
Tired of you not admitting you're Jordan Funk, a whiny little bitch of a #NeverTrumper who lost a bet with Fubarski when Trump won then reneged on the bet. Somewhere there's a neocon cock for you to suck.
There will be a wall. Even if getting funding for it is pushed back to September it will get built there's a lot to do between now and then that needs doing and doesn't need specific funding to do. There's a lot of moving pieces and each one is not independent of the others.
It sounds like BS to me that a wall is so expensive, look at a damn interstate highway with overpasses, bridges, cloverleafs, earthwork, tunnels, and on and on. It ought to be obvious to everyone that the interstate, and all other major highways would cost many times per mile what a wall would cost, and never in my life have I ever heard that we can't afford to build a highway. I wonder what they all add up to 100s of thousands of miles I reckon.
It sounds like BS to me that a wall is so expensive, look at a damn interstate highway with overpasses, bridges, cloverleafs, earthwork, tunnels, and on and on. It ought to be obvious to everyone that the interstate, and all other major highways would cost many times per mile what a wall would cost, and never in my life have I ever heard that we can't afford to build a highway. I wonder what they all add up to 100s of thousands of miles I reckon.
That wall is like building all those highways before cars were invented.
It'll be half as much as if a non Trump president were doing it and come in on time, relatively speaking for federal projects. Just having the cojones to reverse course on our immigration policies and get this far is more than I expected three months into it.
It'll be half as much as if a non Trump president were doing it and come in on time, relatively speaking for federal projects. Just having the cojones to reverse course on our immigration policies and get this far is more than I expected three months into it.
You're partially correct. The wall is stupid, but enforcing the law is invaluable. It's not that complicated.
Are you tryin to tell me Mexicans haven't been crossing the border yet Pat.
The too expensive BS is just what people who don't want it use for an excuse.
What is truely too expensive is what the millions of illegals are costing us every year!
How is a 100' wall gonna stop an industrious people with a 101' ladder, a shovel or a boat/surfboard? Ace's is right...it's what happens to them once they GET here that matters.
I don't think anyone has ever claimed a wall would replace the Border Patrol and 100ft is an exaggeration a liberal would use to try to make people in favor of a wall look silly. I would imagine 20' or 30' would be sufficient if you had a few LEOs watching for herds of ladder toting beaners approaching, and a extra hot hot wire on top, maybe even some of them motion detectors around there. I bet a few of would still outsmart you, but I don't think a few million a year could, if you had a wall that is.
I don't think anyone has ever claimed a wall would replace the Border Patrol and 100ft is an exaggeration a liberal would use to try to make people in favor of a wall look silly. I would imagine 20' or 30' would be sufficient if you had a few LEOs watching for herds of ladder toting beaners approaching, and a extra hot hot wire on top. I bet a few of would still outsmart you, but I don't think a few million a year could, if you had a wall that is.
Honest question. Why do you think people who live many hundreds, or thousands, of miles away from the border think it's the answer to all their ills, but people who live relatively close think it's a dumb idea?
Honest answer, we had an election and the guy who said he would build it got elected even by people in Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico. So what you're telling me must be more about what you want than it is about what most of your neighbors want.
Honest answer, we had an election and the guy who said he would build it got elected even by people in Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico. So what you're telling me must be more about what you want than it is about what most of your neighbors want.
I want a wall. I have never understood the concept of having people just walk into our country. I have a fence around my land and I lock my belongings and doors up. I despise politicians that pander to criminal aliens for votes or illegal cheap labor.
This makes sense to me. These other posters don't live in reality.
[quote=T_Inman]I don't give a $hit if Trump doesn't follow through with a single campaign promise (which I don't believe he has, nor will)...I am just STOKED that the Hildabeast isn't allowed to follow through with hers... [/quot]
I guess you didn't hear about the judge. He gave the winning vote on the last decision.
It sounds like BS to me that a wall is so expensive, look at a damn interstate highway with overpasses, bridges, cloverleafs, earthwork, tunnels, and on and on. It ought to be obvious to everyone that the interstate, and all other major highways would cost many times per mile what a wall would cost, and never in my life have I ever heard that we can't afford to build a highway. I wonder what they all add up to 100s of thousands of miles I reckon.
That wall is like building all those highways before cars were invented.
Honest answer, we had an election and the guy who said he would build it got elected even by people in Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico. So what you're telling me must be more about what you want than it is about what most of your neighbors want.
Okay. Another question. How stupid are you? We voted for Trump in the general election because he wasn't Clinton. Less liberal is better than more liberal. Comprende'?
It sounds like BS to me that a wall is so expensive, look at a damn interstate highway with overpasses, bridges, cloverleafs, earthwork, tunnels, and on and on. It ought to be obvious to everyone that the interstate, and all other major highways would cost many times per mile what a wall would cost, and never in my life have I ever heard that we can't afford to build a highway. I wonder what they all add up to 100s of thousands of miles I reckon.
That wall is like building all those highways before cars were invented.
We're being invaded in case you haven't' heard.
Being "invaded" implies something sudden. This has been going on for almost 200 years. There is a reason for it,and it's not because of the lack of a fence.
Why hasn't trump issued an Executive Order that requires all employees be E-verified and then hammer any Company that does not comply and any one using a SS# illegally be prosecuted. That should help with the flow going south. JMT. Cheers NC
Why hasn't trump issued an Executive Order that requires all employees be E-verified and then hammer any Company that does not comply and any one using a SS# illegally be prosecuted. That should help with the flow going south. JMT. Cheers NC
That's been the law for at least 10 years. It's (still) not enforced.
Honest question. Why do you think people who live many hundreds, or thousands, of miles away from the border think it's the answer to all their ills, but people who live relatively close think it's a dumb idea?
Because it is the people who live hundreds/thousands of miles away from the border that have to pay for and put up with the vast majority of illegals.
I'm smart enough not to beat a dead horse, how about you LT?
TFF...you guys bought a dead horse and get pissed because nobody can resurrect it. Good luck. We all need it.
Well if your guy won the primary we'd be bitching about president Hilary and her new Supreme Court justice tonight instead of Trump not doing everything you want in the first 97 days. Your political acumen isn't worth chit.
Honest question. Why do you think people who live many hundreds, or thousands, of miles away from the border think it's the answer to all their ills, but people who live relatively close think it's a dumb idea?
Because it is the people who live hundreds/thousands of miles away from the border that have to pay for and put up .
Do you really believe that? I'm assuming you're in Oklahoma. How do you "pay for and put up with the vast majority of illegals"?
Congress isn't going to give Trump money for his wall and Trump has tucked tail and said he would try again in September.
This fraud couldn't make a deal to save his life.
Maybe he's too busy playing 3-D chess to get one darned thing done?
No wall. No repeal and replace. No tax reform. No travel ban.
Tired of winning yet?
Where is the Mexican government that Candidate Trump said would pay for the wall? Maybe, President Trump can just send them a bill and they'll gladly pay up!
People that voted for Trump as a choice of two evils ( we have plenty here at 24) are not really snowflakes, but they sure seem to do a lot of melting. Ice cubes maybe?
I'm smart enough not to beat a dead horse, how about you LT?
TFF...you guys bought a dead horse and get pissed because nobody can resurrect it. Good luck. We all need it.
TFF2U, I'm not pissed off about anything, Do I come off as pissed off on here? I've been smiling since last November. I really think it's pretty clear (even without the avatar) who has their panties all wadded up, and it sure ain't me. For such a conservative guy as yourself, you sure do use a lot of those DNC talking points, you ain't been gettin' your anti Trump blather over there have you?
Ha, I never heard that one before Watch4bear. Heck that dang wall is working already and they haven't even built it yet. Spec houses are booming again like the 80s and 90s and I haven't even seen one Mexican with a trowel yet this year. A little faith in the future was all the economy needed I guess. Even if the "wall" turns out to be a guarded fence with no rewards on this side, and laws we already have enforced, I'll take it. But if we build an awesome wall, we could use it for a damn tourist attraction like they did in China. It could be YUGE! Like all those 100 foot walls around prisons 😉 What do we give Mexico every year in subsidies? I think I heard over 400 million IIRC, so yeah we could build a wall and send 'em a bill, then just hold it out of their subsidies till it's paid for -- that would sorta be like they paid for it. I'd even help build it if they go block, if it wasn't so hot down there -- maybe blizzard season here, and I'll show up there with my sombrero and a trowel just to piss Pat off some more.
......Don't believe everything you see on TV. There's not A wall, it's not a reminder of ANYTHING and it's a stupid idea. It's like selling your car to build a picket fence to keep rats out the cookies you leave on the back porch.....
You have a way with words LT. Reminds me of Jerry Clower sometimes. (That's a good thing)
nforce the border by the most effective means possible
If entering a country illegally is a capital offense, fine by me
Prosecute employers and fine them heavily where it's not cost effective for them to hire illegals
Stop any and all benefits to those that aren't US citizens
Hell for that matter curb the benefits we give to us citizens and put an expiration benefit of 3 years on them
I do like this. As to the US citizens, those that are able should be required to work for their check. Something along the line of the old CC camps or the WPA.
Congress isn't going to give Trump money for his wall and Trump has tucked tail and said he would try again in September.
This fraud couldn't make a deal to save his life.
Maybe he's too busy playing 3-D chess to get one darned thing done?
No wall. No repeal and replace. No tax reform. No travel ban.
Tired of winning yet?
100 days, you numb khount. No Hillary. GFY
We need to look back at how Bush was blamed for everything Obummer did for his 1st (6) years in office and President Trump has only been in office 100 days and it is all his fault the country is such bad shape and he has not completed 100% of what he campaigned on to date.
Congress isn't going to give Trump money for his wall and Trump has tucked tail and said he would try again in September.
This fraud couldn't make a deal to save his life.
Maybe he's too busy playing 3-D chess to get one darned thing done?
No wall. No repeal and replace. No tax reform. No travel ban.
Tired of winning yet?
100 days, you numb khount. No Hillary. GFY
We need to look back at how Bush was blamed for everything Obummer did for his 1st (6) years in office and President Trump has only been in office 100 days and it is all his fault the country is such bad shape and he has not completed 100% of what he campaigned on to date.
Something smells bad
Just another example of lieberals getting a pass on their lies, but conservatives can't even get a pass using the truth.
Honest answer, we had an election and the guy who said he would build it got elected even by people in Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico. So what you're telling me must be more about what you want than it is about what most of your neighbors want.
Texas voted against Hillary, not for a wall we knew he couldn't and SHOULDN'T build.
Miles Patton posted the REAL deal killer earlier in this thread.
