We have a handful of "contraries", here at the fire. Without exception, they have all exhibited the need to piss people off. They know damn well, that they won't change any opinions - especially with that tactic. They just have "fun" poking and prodding, specifically to do nothing more than to promote an angry response. It must be a liberal gene or something, because that tactic is used continually, by the left. They are basically relying on the tolerance and civility of the right, to accomplish . Ironically, it is THEY who accuse US, of having neither tolerance nor civility. THEY have little control at all, being prone to violence and bullying to get their ideology to the forefront. To hell with the law (ironically, most of the laws they break were enacted to protect that ideology - not that of the right) their cause is more important than following laws...there is zero tolerance, for any view but their own. They are able to construct an alternate reality, and see THAT as reality. Supported by lies and bogus "facts" that fly in the face of actual data, they are able to justify any action they take - legal or not - hateful or not. I see liberals as human burrdocks. Annoying. The latest incarnation has added violence and physical confrontation, all the while claiming to be victims of virtually non-existent like treatment, by the right. Delusional.

They are part of the "plan" They aren't here randomly nor by accident. Bannon has it correct in that the "left" has become so radicalized that they are simply an agent to turn America into a Socialist Country. And they have made tremendous progress in doing so. The Communists have always predicted America would be destroyed from within. Public "Education" including Colleges have been brainwashing and indoctrinating the youth of this nation for decades. Politicians have allowed rampant immigration by those who have no interest in being Americans but making America resemble the hell hole from which they came. Politicians have also allowed damn near 50% of the population of this country to receive some sort of Government handout. Reliance on Government is the hallmark of all Communist nations. And the media has done its part in ignoring this and to report that those who protest what is happening to America are racist and bigots.

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One of the things that somehow sticks, though untrue, is the racist and bigot accusation. It's as if they have no idea what it actually means, only that the connotation is bad. There is no need for any proof. The accusation is considered to be true, if made by a leftist. I guess it really doesn't stop there. The claim that the right is fascist, sticks too. THIS, from an ideology that has government controlling all facets of life. It makes no sense at all. I conclude that the lefties have no idea what it means, only that it has a bad connotation. They are content with that. WHAT they call us, is irrelevant. The words can mean whatever they FEEL they should mean. Dang, it's hard to fight stupid.

Even the Progressives

Are telling you they have taken over the Democratic Party. And BTW, study the picture carefully.

Never mistake the Leftists as being stupid...

The movers and shakers are not stupid. I think a lot of the minions are short - sighted, at the least. The other option, is evil. That is also possible.

Leftists do what they do because the right have PROVEN to be a bunch of puzzies and the leftists know they can get away with just about anything without consequence.

there is little doubt, that liberalism is an outward sign of severe mental illness. Simple as that.

I think they are asking for a civil war.

Referring to Blackheart post above, yes, I think they DO want a civil war. They are counting on us not fighting back, though. Sort of the "air guitar", version of a war. The right is tolerant and peaceful. Woe be on them, when they wear that out.

I don't fully agree with you Bench. I think they want to provoke situations where shots will be fired and deaths will occur, at which point every agency of the Federal Government will be over us like a swarm of locus.

They provoked the permit holding demonstrators yesterday in VA and walked away with the demonstrators being blamed for everything.

Misery loves company.

So far, that has been the reality of it. They can do no wrong, and even when we are in the right, it is viewed as wrong. The elites are, and in modern times have always been, on the side of the left.

It takes two to tango and there is a lot of "stick poking" going on on both sides.

No,... they are demanding it. Screaming for it.

That's exactly why they picked the white supremacist demonstration yesterday.

They picked them because white supremacy is indefensible, the followers are kooks, and they were too fuggin' stupid to realize they were being used as a pawn to paint ALL conservatives with the same brush, and vilify everyone.

To answer the OP's question: they only become angry when they are challenged or threatened. They are unable to engage in civil discourse, because their ideas aren't defensible. Anger and violence are their ONLY recourse

Why the need..................? Because that's what their paid to do. Either by Soros, by thought of losing their free monthly government check and/or benefits,or all three.

I don't think the right stick pokes as much as the left. They are always looking for a fight.

We are close-

What sorrow for those who say that evil is good and good is evil, that dark is light and light is dark, that bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter. What sorrow for those who are wise in their own eyes and think themselves so clever. What sorrow for those who are heroes at drinking wine and boast about all the alcohol they can hold. They take bribes to let the wicked go free, and they punish the innocent. Therefore, just as fire licks up stubble and dry grass shrivels in the flame, so their roots will rot and their flowers wither. For they have rejected the law of the Lord of Heaven’s Armies; they have despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. (Isaiah 5:20-24 NLT)
You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. People will be cruel and hate what is good. They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that! (2 Timothy 3:1, 3b, 5 NLT)


And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass? But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. (Luke 21:7, 9, 28, 31-33, 36 KJV)

The spoiled brat acting out is part of the feminization of the US male.

Because with Trump and a very large portion of the U.S. populace getting somewhat awoken, they see their new utopia world order slipping away.

Unfortunately, the book has already been written. See above.

You need to read Marx.

Marx preaches a "Vanguard" from the left who will initiate the war against the oppressors, Go to one of the Occupy What Ever meeting sometime. They will opening discuss if they are the Vanguard and if they are doing enough to start the final war to bring about Utopia.

There are some real parallels between their theology and the Book of Revelations, but the Messiah is not an individual, Jesus, but a collective, The Vanguard.

Both are tales of destruction and woe, a journey into chaos followed the rebirth of a perfect society.

Yup, but I wont see it or live it cause I'll most likely be dead fighting it, and for that I care not.

Chill out.

Hate, lies, and division are how they advance their agenda. You see damn few happy libs.

Anyone who follows a philosophy that is opposed to truth and decency is going to be angry. That and they lost, so you are seeing a drawn out temper tantrum from full grown children.

I get that. So, forget the stupid. They are evil. THIS is the Commun...errrr....Marxist, takeover. It's hilarious,that the left makes a distinction between two ideologies that are only a few degrees apart. Anyways, fueled by indoctrination from the education system and media, funded by Soros, greed, class envy, fear of having to actually support themselves, the lefties are selling us all out. We are letting them, too. Our representatives are either magnificently incompetent or complicit, and NOBODY, is THAT incompetent....

Never underestimate the power of incompetence.

Its because you guys are just all nut jobs....

And the "Occupy X participants were not?

Which Occupy movements do you belong to, and who's paying you to post here?

I totally think if you feel froggy, you should ignore that warning bell in your brain and by all means.... Jump!

Benchman I am in total agreement. You have done a good job laying it out. Once we're all on board with what's going on, the question will become what to do about it. Sure is slow getting everyone on the same page. My theory on that is that conservatives are live-and-let-live type people that don't impose themselves on others. But that's going to have to change if there's any hope of having a decent country. Left to the liberals it will be completely destroyed.

At some point it might become necessary to take positive action to defend our negative rights (i.e. our rights to be left alone)

You conservative's just hate anyone that doesn't think the same way you do, there's many like me that believe its your kind that needs to be in jail.

Come and try it.

Which side has several trillion rounds of ammo?

It's not you pajama boys.

And no, I don't hate you, I just know you, and your ilk are wrong.

You rally need to read "The Gulag Archipelago" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn so you can understand just how wrong you really are.

Hate is your sphere, but we will gladly join you there at some point if pushed far enough. For now there's one hell of a lot of righteous indignation on what you leftist trash are trying to do to this country. That's why you got Trump as President. Stand up and pay attention. We will not be pushed forever.

And BTW, WTF did I do that I deserve to be in jail you communist piece of [bleep]? Conservatives are the one's that follow the damn laws!!!

Let that ^^^ sink in.

So conservatives regard the rule of law as supreme, and the values that made the country a success the important ones to protect, but we deserve to be in jail. FOR WHAT? Just exactly what do you feel conservatives have done that deserves jail? Seems like you are having a serious case of projection and hypocrisy.

You accuse us of not being tolerant but you want us in jail for breaking NO LAW! Makes my blood boil dealing with such morally bankrupt people.

Simply enforce the law. I have no problem with differing opinions. I do have a problem with stacking the deck for one side. The lawlessness of the left is pervasive. They just do what they want, and get away with it - period. We saw this most blatantly with BLM. They were basically saying that you couldn't arrest blacks.

Eggs Zachary!

That's simply absurd. We may disagree, and even dislike those who disagree. We DO defend their right to free speech. The left attempts to silence dissenting by unconstitutional means - whether by unconstitutional law, or flat out violence. You RARELY see that from the right. You are mistaking the fear of that happening, with the reality of riots and beatings, by leftists. Name the violent attacks by the right, on the left, in recent history, like 20 years.

Its you conservatives that are the the ones that keep on running our country back into the ground every time you get one of your clowns into the office, look what happen with Bush Jr, he was never in charge, it was the conservatives
making all the bad decisions that got us into a lie of a war, you just have a need to eliminate a bunch of innocent people just to feel good about yourself.

How soon the left forgets little facts like attacks on the homeland. That is their curse, no perspective of history.

Thank God Obama came around, to set us back on the path to Communism. What was it, a 40% rise in food stamps, lower employment, horrible race relations, vilifying of law enforcement, and greater debt? Which one of those, did you like best?

Because they are miserable in their own self-made box.

They hate seeing others enjoying life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

It was Obama that got the people responsible for attacking our twin towers, not your Bush Jr.

You just proved my point on the left having no perspective on history.

Conservatives couldn't get a fly on a horses rear end if they tried...

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of us needing to be in jail. I guess there is absolutely no doubt what's in store for us if they think they can get away with it.

AND used it as best he could. What's one little sacrifice, of a sick guy...did you happen to notice the HUGE number of Muslims in key government positions, under Obama? If you think that's coincidence, you're a dunce. Our major enemy is Muslim, our ideological enemy is Communism. He promoted Islam, funded by a Communist. What could possibly go wrong?

If you have Netflix what "United Red Army". It will show you exactly what's in store for all of America if the Maoist ever achieve control of this country. It's a very sobering view from the inside of a Japanese leftist extremist group. They were constantly killing each other for not being good enough Marxist.

Because you're just a bunch of hot heads with short fuses that snap if someone doesn't agree with you.

If your post-modern reformulated version of the world is correct, let's hear your best case for your beliefs. Tell us exactly why your world view will lead to a better condition for humanity.

Yea, sure suck in that fake news easy don't you.

Speaking of suck, how's your mom doing?

If that was true, you would all be dead. Go ahead and cite the right on left violence.

In jail for what?

a real tolerant fella... gotta love the left.

Did you miss your kind when they were looting, burning, and inciting violence because your corrupt candidate failed? What a hypocrite.

Come on backdoor,

How does your post-modern fascism make the world a better place?

Lets here your best argument.

The thing that gets me about liberal beings like brokebackandy, antifa et al, is they call us conservatives nazi fascists, they simply don't know hitler himself was a liberal communist nazi fascists, they're calling us what they in fact, very much are.

That's funny, first of all i'm not a liberal, and if you are on the Nazi fascists side you are on Hitler's side also...

Than what do you believe and why do you believe it?

This^^^, and the trolls are given free reign to slap our faces on the fire with their disingenuous bullchitt.

This^^^, and the commie trolls are given free reign on the fire to slap us in the face with their disingenuous bullschitt, too.

Socialism, open borders, welfare, gun control, queers, trannys and muzxies is not what made this country great.

Back to the original question............

because not much else works for them, lately.....................

And they'll have plenty more to cry about after mid-terms.

Its because you guys are just all nut jobs....[/quote)

Your occupy WSt group worshipped the biggest 1%er in the country.

Who would work and pay taxes for your socialist kind and blacks to get welfare, obamabucks, etc. Who would invent, formulate, diagnose and treat their diabetes and high blood pressure and strokes and aids? Who would work to grow fruit, veggies and meat for you? Who would keep the criminals from slitting your worthless throat and feeding you to hogs?

if not for real men your great grandparents would have been skinned for lamp shades and boiled for soap tallow.

Zero gets up and tells you pukes hes going to put coal companies out of business and double your electric bill and you retards cheer.

Hilkary says shes going to put oil companies out of business and triple your gasoline prices and you cheer. Shes going to rape the banks and triple your bank fees and though they are paying her millions in speaking fees you believe it.

You are a congenital dumbass. You believe everything your socialist leaders tell you, just as lemmings rushing headlong to the sea. They thing might makes right, just as stupid you.

THIS!!!

These people are neither shortsighted nor stupid. They are playing EXACTLY by the book(s), Marx and Alinsky. The socialist dogma requires that any existing society MUST be destroyed before their version of Utopia can be built and placed in operation across the globe.

They have been trying to incite a war (revolution) since the very beginning of the socialist movement. The Socialist movement grew out of the French Revolution where the peasants overthrew the Monarchy and laid in place a socialist ideal that they have been trying to live up to since day one.

As A.S. has pointed out this is their theology. THEY are the Messiahs, come to wipe out all of the evils of capitalism and personal inequality. While we call them mentally ill, they are no more mentally ill than some of the Christian Zealots.

Benchman, et al, DO NOT merely ridicule them, do not underestimate them, nor their effectiveness. While they and their behavior does not make sense to most conservatives, they have a definite plan that is laid out in great detail.
They are offering their version of Heaven on Earth to people who are in search of an easier life. As I have posted several times before; in their hubris, they ignore two very vital items, human nature and human history.

Ed

You mean like Bush one and two did in the battle for Qatar against the Red Brigade in the Gulf War and then the toppling of Saddam with 2000 sorties flown per day for bombing runs versus 20 per day ran by Zero against ISIS when our jets were only allowed to take out 20% of the ISIS targets they encountered?

And then your hero the zero let isis retake Iraq? The nuclear weapons treaty as written by our congress provided for restrictions on Iran developing ICBMs but your hero the zero let his Muzzy buddies get him to drop that little detail allowing them to get ready to fly nuclear warheads to us.

I guess you think mean ol Bush gave them the $150,000,000,000 to help Iran do what N Korea is threatening.

"Re: Why is it that liberals have a need to incite anger"

They haven't the intellegence, the ambition, nor the need to do anything else. Housed, fed, medically treated, they have nothing to occupy their time but to start siht, spread hate and discontent, and be just a major menace to society.

After they have incited their violence for some reason the government steps in and gives them every thing they want.

Disgusting and will be the fall of this country. No gang of these malcontents has ever amounted to more than a pile of schit.

They are in a continual state of adolesence. When they go to college, they are validated by their adolesence professors.

The left instinctively sides with evil. Just look at the number of their own citizens, outside of war, that they have killed in the last 100 years. It is 100-150 million.

Because they are all masochists and "pegging" practitioners....

like the commies jail and Massacred their citizens so Outback Angie apparently proposes for most of us.

They stir stuff up because historically moderates have supported giving them what they wanted to pacify them, as the progressives and Bill Clinton did with N Korea. As is little Kim, they are raising hell at now not getting their way.

You are right! Here's why-



For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Eph 6:12

1 Dead flies make a perfumer's oil stink, so a little foolishness is weightier than wisdom and honor. 2A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him toward the left. 3 Even when the fool walks along the road, his sense is lacking and he demonstrates to everyone that he is a fool.…

No one has ever looked at a liberal politicians platform and "said that's a great idea". Since they can't attract followers with logic they've got to resort to appealing to the baser emotions of shame, fear and greed

Yup. Kinda makes them look stupid. They have no idea what they are talking about.

The liberals incite anger because it's straight out of the Karl Marx handbook on communism. They also use it to divide their followers up into little groups, and make those little groups into "oppressed" people. They aren't stupid, they know exactly what they're doing. The stupid ones are the idiots on "our side", that continue to take the bait and think they can outsmart the left. The left did not go to Charlottesville to protest the statue of Robert E. Lee, they went there looking for a confrontation, and they knew exactly how to go about getting one......one that would make "them" look good, and "us" look bad.

We tend to think that those that follow the leftist leaders are mindless robots. Some may be, most are not. Look at Blacks, and how they are so entrenched in the welfare system, and live in rat infested ghettos. They do so because they choose do so. They don't have a desire to want to get out from under the 'system", because it provides them with all the need......and all they have to do to keep getting it, is to vote for the Democrat Party. That's a pretty good deal.......trade one day a year to get up early and go vote, for 365 days a year of being giving a living. Now, they will get out every now and then and protest, so as to make it appear that the reason their condition is such, is because of those Confederate statues, or because a White cop killed a Black criminal in the line of duty. They know how to play the game, and it's mostly because we have sit on our butts and let them get in plenty of practice.

Everything you need to know about the modern Left is contained in Alinskiny's Rules for Radicals. Both HRC and BHO were ardent followers. HRC made personal contact with Alinsky whie he was still alive. Alinsky was from Chicago and was a "community organizer" and was the blue print for BHO activities. Hillary brought Alinsky's tactics to DC and the Dem Party and BHO used them. Look at the attack on Trump and see how many of Alinsky's Rules you can pick out. The trolls here are doing the same. I've called them on it a number of times.

There is no "outsmarting". This is not in any way, about intelligence. It's about power, and control. The left is all about rules, regulations and laws. The make a lot of them. Every little thing needs a new law. THEN, they proceed to break them, for whatever their cause may be. The right, tends to stay within the parameters of the law. That is not a bad thing, but puts you at a disadvantage, if the opposition cheats. The solution, is to ENFORCE THE LAW. Stop allowing the advantage. The Charlottesville event as an example, as soon as any assault began, throwing stuff, beating somebody up, etc, the Antifa should have been escorted out, as a group. They were allowed to illegally escalate the situation. The other side had a permit, and did not attack the Antifa group.