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I had a great meeting tonight with @realDonaldTrump & @VP. We all want safe schools, mental health reform and to keep guns away from dangerous people. POTUS & VPOTUS support the Second Amendment, support strong due process and don’t want gun control. #NRA #MAGA

Trump talks out both sides of his mouth.

REPUBLICANS SAY TRUMP'S SUPPORT FOR GUN CONTROL WAS JUST AN ACT ALL ALONG
BY CHANTAL DA SILVA ON 3/2/18 AT 6:13 AM


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President Donald Trump is facing a backlash after the National Rifle Association's (NRA) chief lobbyist claimed the president has reversed his stance on gun control, with some claiming the president's support for tighter measures has been an act.

Scott Dworkin, who co-founded the anti-Trump Democratic Coalition, claims a GOP lobbyist told him that Trump is "only publicly acting like he's taking on the NRA."

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NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox (left) says President Donald Trump does not support gun control. Here,the two stand with NRA President Wayne LaPierre (right) during the NRA Leadership Forum in Atlanta, Georgia on April 28, 2017
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"Privately, he's reassuring them he's on their side," he said. Dworkin said the GOP lobbyist said the president has "completely lost his mind," adding that the public should "expect anything."


The accusation comes after NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox tweeted late Thursday evening that he had met with Trump and Vice President Mike Pence and left assured that they "don't want gun control."

Cox said he had a "great meeting" with Trump and Pence, before adding: "We all want safe schools, mental health reform and to keep guns away from dangerous people."

He said both the president and vice president "support the Second Amendment, support strong due process and don't want gun control."

Trump himself appeared to speak favorably of the meeting, tweeting: "Good (Great) meeting in the Oval Office tonight with the NRA!"

Former Republican U.S. Representative David Jolly, who has emerged as a strong critic of Trump, said the NRA "sold" the president out.

"Who owns whom? I think we know," Jolly said, after quoting Cox's remarks after his meeting with the president. "Trump and Pence answer to a different master, and the master just sold them out."

Don't miss this.

The Executive Director of @NRA, @ChrisCoxNRA, says after meeting with @POTUS that neither Trump nor Pence "want gun control".

Who owns whom? I think we know.

Trump and Pence answer to a different master, and the master just sold them out. https://t.co/LmfdK18UpW

— David Jolly (@DavidJollyFL) March 2, 2018
The president has already sparked outrage over his decision to meet with the NRA behind closed doors.


"So the victims of the latest mass shooting got a 17 minute hospital visit and a televised meeting with the President where he was given talking points telling him to listen," Fred Wellman, the CEO of ScoutComms, which advocates on the behalf of veterans and military families, wrote on Twitter.

"The NRA got a private lunch with him. That’s why so many Americans are angry. Money buys access," he added.


"Good (Great) $30 million donation from the @NRA to the President made this happen!" Shannon Watts, the Founder of MomsDemand Action for Gun Sense In America, which was created after the Sandy Hook shooting, said on Twitter.

"It's DISGUSTING that gun lobbyists who seek to profit gun manufacturers at the expense of our communities' safety are meeting with the President just two weeks after the Parkland school shooting," she added.

If Cox's claim is true, it would represent a reversal in Trump's stance on gun control, after the president appeared to support tighter gun laws in a televised meeting with lawmakers on Wednesday.

In the meeting, he urged lawmakers to bring about comprehensive gun control legislation that would increase background checks for those looking to purchase weapons at gun shows and on the internet, restrict access to those with mental health issues, promote security in schools and put age limits on gun sales.

Trump also suggested that law enforcement authorities should be able to seize guns from people with mental health issues or others who were deemed to present a danger to the public without having to go through a court process.

"I like taking the guns early," the president said. "Take the guns first, go through due process second."

Read more: Marco Rubio proposes modest gun control measures

The televised meeting appeared to send NRA lobbyists into a frenzy, with calls to Capitol Hill calling Trump's ideas "bad policy," according to the New York Times.

The move also caused upset among Republicans against tighter gun control, with Republican Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse saying in a statement: "We’re not ditching any constitutional protections simply because the last person the president talked to today doesn’t like them."

Some Democrats appeared to be left optimistic after Trump's comments, with senators, including California's Dianne Feinstein visibly grinning and cheering throughout the Wednesday meeting.

Others expressed skepticism over whether the president's ideas would translate into action. “The White House can now launch a lobbying campaign to get universal background checks passed, as the president promised in this meeting, or they can sit and do nothing," Democratic Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy said.

The president has yet to respond to Cox's claim that his position on gun control has changed since Wednesday's

But watch the multitudes line up to get played.

Trumps gonna prove the people are stupid enough that he can play both sides of the fence at the same time.

Yeah, his supporters are going to be played as hard as his opponents before he's done. That's the problem with pet rattlesnakes ... they do what snakes do ... bite whatever is in reach including the hand that feeds them. They expect loyalty, they don't give it.

Tom

So he's obviously lying to one party or the other the question is it to the NRA in a closed door meeting or to lawmakers and everyone else watching national tv? Strange times.

He's dealing with all sorts of liars every day in DC - they've been practicing for decades - looks like DT intends/hopes to beat them at their game. He knows how the bread is buttered and is doing what he sees as necessary to deliver on as many of his promises as possible. It's a rotten game with rotten players.

I try to not zero in on his off-the-cuff comments because often they are part of the sleight of hand activity - given as teasers for his opponents and the press. He knows the 2nd Amendment overall terrain and the clout of the NRA. I think he would like to take some of the psycho game back from the zillions of not needed psychologists sucking up government $$ for their practices - legislation to deny guns to confirmed nut cases seems a worthy goal there. He knows that Congress will balance any such legislation.

Watch for the end game.

Dianne Feinstein visibly grinning and cheering throughout the Wednesday meeting.

she was promised an open bar.

Perhaps those who listen to the leftest media are the ones being played.

Someone here said yesterday that he was playing chess...

I hope!!!

That's not quite right. There's no doubt he's lying to one party or the other. In the big picture, though, lying to one doesn't automatically mean he's telling the truth to the other. I suspect he is lying to both and both are so busy playing gotcha with the other they don't realize they're got, too.

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He sure owes neither any loyalty. Bunch of backstabbing POS

[quote=]Trump talks out both sides of his mouth.[/quote]


Will you people someday start to understand politics? To negotiate, you have to have something to bargain with.
Look at Trump and Europe. All of the trade policies are decidedly in their favor, so why should they even consider changing any of it? With the status quo, they wouldn't. Trump slaps a tariff on them, now things are different. If they want the tariff gone, they now must give something to Trump.

Same game is going on with guns, I'm sure. Trump will talk all kinds of trash, only to reveal what he is really after at the end.

So people are upset that a politician is lying? Washington ate Jimmy Carter alive. Ted Kennedy and Tip O'neal ran everything except Jimmy's Foreign Policy (Panama Canal, Rhodesia, South Africa, Iran etc.) Had Carter needed to negotiate with a GOP Congress, he would have been screwed. As it was, his inability to understand the political game made everything he had direct control of a disaster.

Honest men, those that won't play politics, have no business in Washington DC. They are ill equipped for battle. They are out gunned and facing far superior tacticians.

She will never drink at that bar. Just sayin....

And sadly he is a terrible chess player! Bummer to see half his administration abandon ship - why can't anyone be loyal these days?

That's why they jumped ship. They are politicians. Trump is not.

Will you people someday start to understand politics? To negotiate, you have to have something to bargain with.
Look at Trump and Europe. All of the trade policies are decidedly in their favor, so why should they even consider changing any of it? With the status quo, they wouldn't. Trump slaps a tariff on them, now things are different. If they want the tariff gone, they now must give something to Trump.

Same game is going on with guns, I'm sure. Trump will talk all kinds of trash, only to reveal what he is really after at the end.

So people are upset that a politician is lying? Washington ate Jimmy Carter alive. Ted Kennedy and Tip O'neal ran everything except Jimmy's Foreign Policy (Panama Canal, Rhodesia, South Africa, Iran etc.) Had Carter needed to negotiate with a GOP Congress, he would have been screwed. As it was, his inability to understand the political game made everything he had direct control of a disaster.

Honest men, those that won't play politics, have no business in Washington DC. They are ill equipped for battle. They are out gunned and facing far superior tacticians.[/quote]
I am hopeful you are on to something...

Only the brain dead would read huffinpuff much less quote it.

I've noted this is Trump's M.O.

He takes a confrontational stance, and negotiates down from there.

"Build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it"

We all know that building the Great Wall of China II will never happen, and
Mexico will not pay for it. However, that threat now has them on notice and much more willing to work with us to avoid a full wall and other problems.

Trump pulls out of the Pan-Asian deal. Puts Xi on notice AND put Canada and Mexico on notice that Trump wants and will demand changes or NAFTA goes bye bye.

Other counties will look out for their best interests. If they have an advantage negotiated over the US, no way do they give it up just because we asked nicely. Try this scenario:

Obama (to Xi) "We need to do something about this trade imbalance between our countries. We want you to manufacture all goods exported to the US under the same EPA rules and Labor Laws we have for competitive balance"

Xi (to Obama) - "Phouc Yew!"

vs.

Trump - "I'm about to slap a 300% tariff on all the chitt we import from China. You wanna talk about this Mr. Commie Premiere?"

Xi - "I'm all ears."

There's value in seeing the commies are pissed.

This is a good thing.

HAHA! Got me good...


Only the inbred would live in California..

Haha. That was good. Welcome to the third grade.

Another inbred.

You've been retarded a grade.

Again only a fugging moron would post a link to a POS communist rag to give them free advertising and ad click revenue.

Don’t need to give free advertising and ad click revenue to a Anti-American communist rag to know that. Plenty of other sources.

Again only a fugging inbred would live In a POS communist state and support it.

FOAD