1. The original VW Beetle.
2. The Corvair.
3. The Norton Atlas motorcycle.
4. Winchester Model 12'.
5. The Cadillac Eldorado Convertable with the 500 cu. in. engine.
6. Two stroke outboards.
any others?

I vote two stroke outboards. They have a better power to weight ratio.

Win M 12. They did and I did.

I expect there would be a lot of buyers for it and those big caddies. Black top over pink body with whitewalls.

For original prices, yes.

I wouldn't go looking for any of those but I'd be in line for roadrunners, GTX, super bees, chargers, mach 1 mustangs with big blocks, tri five chevys, impalas, galaxies, chevelles, GTO's, fairlanes, 56 ford glass top, 56 ford retractable tops, victorias, crown victorias, C2 corvettes...

And some trucks....

1945 harley...

They wouldn't have stopped making them if very many people had kept buying them.

Yes on two-stroke outboard with twin cylinders like my old Evinrude 3.5hp Ducktwin with weedless drive.
Today's small outboards are noisy, vibrating single cylinder, rigs......

If I needed another shotgun, I'd love a new Model 12.

I still have a 2 stroke outboard, 9.9hp Johnson. The 4 stroke is too heavy for my little Port-a-bote. Without the old one, I'd have to go to a smaller engine.

Savage Mod 24C “Camper’s Companion”

VW Thing (looked at a restored ‘74 just yesterday, it rocked.

1960’s VW Microbus.

English-made Doc Martens boots.

I would add Daytonas, and '55 T-Bird Port hole.

Had a '60 Bug, 65 van and 72 van don't miss them one bit.

Assuming in their original configuration, based on having drove and rode in several VW Beetles and a few Corvairs back in the day, other than at most maybe just as fair weather Sunday drive toys, I'd have to pass on buying either one for normal daily transportation.

I would not.

You can keep everything but the 2-stroke outboard. I still like them better.

For you pilots out there.
1. P-38 Lightning
2. PBY-5A
3. C-47
4. Cessna Skymaster
5. Stearman
6. Piper cub

Savage 99F with rotary mag in .250-3000, .300 Sav., .308win & .358win.

..... but I’m partial to that rifle :-) -TomT

3.The Norton "Commando"

4.Winchester model 12

Seeing Norton reminds me of why they quit making television sets in England.

Colt Python 357 or Colt Diamondback in 22 LR

Winchester 670
S&W 18
'63 Corvette (probably wouldn't be able to buy)
Peters shotgun shells
ACTIV shotgun hulls
a tanker jacket that Gander Mountain used to carry when they were just mail order

You can still buy two stroke outboards, the evinrude ETEC.

Any other two stroke outboard you can keep, they were all pieces of crap. The newer 4 strokes are 100X more reliable.

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of nostalgia there is for junk.

No on the Beetle, Corvair, and the Norton,...too much maintenance required on all three. Especially the Norton. The Eldo convertible has a serious cool factor, but I doubt if I would want to pay for the fuel to keep it on the road,...maintenance is also a factor.

The Winchester,...of course.

I'm not a fan of two stroke motors of any type.

ya I want a younger model of my wife again ?? long blond hair,big blue eyes, 105 lbs ,in her white bikini !

Had a Norton Atlas Twin 750 in college. It was a big heavy bike, and you needed to be 6'1" or taller to handle it while stopped. My buddy had a Triumph Bonnie, a more agile bike.

Both were the world's answer to any oil shortage. They would leak two quarts of oil for every one quart you put in.

Well, just send her to the Virgin Islands to get re-packaged.

ya I am going tell her that from the opposite side of the table close to the door,just in case it doesn`t go well !

There's lots of things we'll never see again.

Some for good reason.

Others for production cost/marketing issues.

Sadly, the last Savage 99 rolled out of the factory years ago.

Mass production, cheap items have largely taken the place of hand fitting and craftsmanship.

No to all. Including the 2-stroke smoker.

The Yamaha XT350 would be a contender. Honda Trail 90 as well.



Yes!

I wonder what she wants changed on you after all those years...

I managed to keep a Norton N-15 running for 3 years mainly because it was fitted with a magneto and would continue to run with half the wiring harness shaken loose. Still, it required almost daily maintenance to keep the lights functional. The monoblok carbs would flood the motor at the drop of a hat and it required the mastery of a serious learning curve to get it started. (kick starter only)

I sold it and bought a '77 Harley Davidson XLCR with an electric starter. The electric starter was an unbelievable luxury after having to kick that high compression Norton engine to life for three years. In fact, the old iron head XLCR proved to be a very dependable motorcycle. It blew the transmission once, but other than that I don't recall having any problems out of it.

2 Strokes yes...everything else no way

With the prices they get for 70-80 year old Cubs, new ones would sell like crazy.

Shhhh! Don't let my collection of two-strokes hear that! They have never considered doing anything except run... And very efficiently at that!

Used to own a '69 VW squareback and a 72 Eldo convertible. Great cars, but there are many cars (and trucks, love my Tundra) I'd rather own today.

2-stroke outboards rule. I still have two, a 3-1/2 hp Tohatsu and a 15 hp Johnson. Can't beat their power/weight ratio and simple maintenance.

Sako Finnwolf

When it comes to cars from the past and how they actually drove the rose colored glasses tend to have a pretty deep tint.

None of those planes. And I'm a wee bit familiar with the Skymaster. If they started making Navions again for a reasonable price, they'd sell.

1st gen Ford Bronco. Please.

On the OP's list I'd go with 2 stroke outboards .. I think.

I'd add

- pickups packaged for work use instead of soccer moms and old men dragging camp trailers on pavement
- Willy's jeeps .. flatfender era .. while they lacked creature comforts, they'd go places current jeeps won't fit.
- quality external frame packs - I still use my old Kelty when the loads exceed about 35 pounds
- Winchester 94s at prices appropriate to beginning hunters
- Ruger security (etc) six series

Cassette tapes



Mike

That would be me.....but I'd still like a real work truck too.

No interest in any of these tho the Winchester 101 is worth bribing back.

The Hornady 100 gr .257” Interlock too.

With the way people drive today, I want a lot more protection around me than is provided by cars made in the 60's and 70's.

As far as the Model 12 goes, there is no way that they could sell a new one worth buying, for what you can get an original one for in good shape. I bought one in great shape probably 15 years ago for $250. I doubt I could sell it for much more than $400 now, if that. People want aluminum, black plastic/fiberglass stocks, light weight, short barrels, 3.5 inch magnums with recoil reducers built in and multiple choke tubes. None of that is what a Model 12 Winchester is.

Mid 80's Toyota Pickups for ~$15,000.

I bought a work truck last year,...2005 F-150, standard cab, long bed, Essex 4.2 liter V6, and a 5 speed standard. It's almost impossible to find these basic pick-ups any longer.

Winchester Model 12, yes. All the others listed, no.

The Norton, in a heartbeat !

1992-94 GM 1500 4x4 Pick-ups with the 5.7 TBI engine and the NV4500 manual transmission.

I'm with jimmy. I had a Norton Atlas, and loved it. I also miss my Model 12 and I really miss my pre unit construction 1957 Triumph T110. Dayom!

You can buy brand new super cubs and they're a lot better than the originals. They are pricey though.

http://cubcrafters.com/

For Sunday driver I would have an early VW Beetle with the 36 HP engine and stick shift, a '57 model was my first car. I currently own an '013 convertible and like the 170 HP engine much better. Owned a '66 Corvair but don't miss that nor would I want one today. I would like a Winchster M/ 12 20 ga. in Super Field configuration and a M/88 in .358, had both of those and foolishly let them slip thru my fingers. A '72 Chevy Blazer with a 350 4bbl. and a 4 speed is my idea of a man's 4WD opposed to the feminized stuff we have today.

Well, yes, today's trucks are certainly feminized, but men still buy the vast majority of them. That should tell us something. Not sure what.

For everybody that wants the Atlas, wouldn't sitting on a paint mixer at the Home Depot be a lower cost option?

No.

Real light bulbs

Hell no. Just last night I was reminiscing about all the things I've done now that I'm not changing light bulbs all the time.

I have a soft spot for the Atlas, the beetle. Buddy had the Norton, I married into a bug. Some of the things we don't remember would probably comeback big time though. I still have to change lightbulbs, they last just long enough to lose the "20 year guarantee" paperwork, but do cost a lot more. I am not sure which 24 was the campers but I have a 24V in 30-30/20 I wish I had another, one for each grandson.

How about a big single that could run with traffic and not put you in a prom date pose?

How about bring back someplace to hunt without a crowd or paying big bucks?

And most of us would like to have our youth back if we could still have the knowledge we have now.

How aboutbig old machine tools. I ran a WS4, bridgeport, J&L 5, and engine lathe for years, but sure came to appreciate CNC in a hurry,

You can add steam trains.

The Government in all its wisdom pretty much forced the outboard industry to quit making two stroke motors in larger sizes. The mechanisms to make 2 strokes reach the emissions standards are very complicated and expensive.

If this is true, then how come so many 50s and 60s 2 stroke motors are still going strong and motors from later years ended up in the scrap heaps? See how many 35hp motors from the 50s are still around compared to the 80s and 90s of similar HP. I have a Honda 50, but I doubt it will be going in 40 or 50 years. At a point on newer motors, it costs more to fix them than they're worth. I have several 2 strokes that are older than me and will be going when I'm gone. Simple is better to me. I can rebuild any of them in my garage with the tools I have.

2 stroke boat power was always a bit of a plus and minus thing for me. If chasing high top speed across the oceans there was no good substitute for a good 2 stroke. They will keep on ticking long after a 4 stroke will puke. If a fella wants to keep the bugs at bay in the coastal realm here in Floriduh, nothing better than a 2 stroke. Talking sand gnats, 'skeeters and 90 mph..........

John Deere 4240 Ford F350 2000 Model, Mammoths, Giant Buffalo, Dire Wolf

Winchester Model 97

You can still get Merc and Yamaha big HP 2 strokes. Same with Evinrude, but who the hell wants an E-tec.

Bring back . . .

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. . . Way ahead of it's time.

2 stroke yamaha 15, Circa 83 IIRC, still running, never had anything but a carb kit. Probably beat up 10 props already. Still runs just fine. We used to put hours on that thing, they we slowed up and a buddy needed one so its on loan to him. He fishes the river at his house sometimes at least 1-2 times a week...

Brand new yamaha 4 stroke 25.. dunno, maybe 2002 ish... ran fine at first, and then had to have carb cleaned between EVERY run.. morning/evening etc... found out though not the motor, the ethanol was eating up the fuel tank plastic.. so I put on about 200 bucks of new everything that would touch the damn ethanol.....

but I'm a bit OT... LOL

All that said, most everything today is, in one form or fashion, better than it was yesterday.....

Yep.

Most things.

I sure like pinned barrel, no safety BS, and recessed cylinder S&W's though.

And firearms without a legal page of warnings stamped on them.

I’d take a beetle. Simple mechanics/electrical, will almost go anywhere a 4 wheel drive can, with a few mods, and an engine I can remove and reinstall in less than 30 minutes.

Sounds great! Hope she comes with a burial policy for you. GW

I've got the most boring vehicles in the world. A 2011 Toyota Camry with 47,000 miles that I've owned for 4 years and done nothing to except change the oil,...a 2011 Acura RDX bought new,...oil changes, one set of tires, one set of brakes. I'd get in either of them and drive across country without giving it a second thought. I've also got a 2005 F-150, long bed, V6, stick shift,..72,000 miles. I'd probably even drive it across country if the situation demanded it. Hell,..I've got a 650cc scooter 15 years old that runs and rides like new. I've owned it 10 of those years,..oil changes, tires, a couple of batteries, and one little electrical glitch that I fixed,...22,000 miles.

I remember how those old cars and motorcycles used to be. I'll take these boring vehicles they're making today.

When I was a young man I was totally smitten by British motorcycles. My first was a 71 BSA 650. Fortunately, I wasn't mechanically adept enough to keep it running long enough to kill myself on it. The next was a Norton N-15. I worked hard to learn enough about it to keep it running,....after a fashion. But it was a constant struggle.

The most cantankerous mechanical devices ever made, in my opinion, were those British motorcycles of the 60's and early 70's. It took real dedication to keep those things on the road. My introduction to Japanese motorcycles was a KZ 650 Kawasaki,....totally bullet proof.

To All,

Things from my misspent youth that I would buy again in a heartbeat:

1. My 1957 RAMBLER REBEL V8 in PINK/BLACK/WHITE, w/Continental Kit,
2. The ORIGINAL Ithaca Model 37 Super Featherweight in 20 gauge,
3. The Indian Super Chief of 1953,
4. The 1st Issue Colt's COBRA in 2/3/4 inch barrel,
5. The International Harvester SCOUT of the 1960s (but with a Cummins 4BT engine),
6. The OMC 40HP Big Twin OB,'
(Fwiw, at last count, I have 8 OMC Big Twins in storage awaiting restoration & a classic "tin" runabout)
7. The Ithaca Auto-Burglar Gun in 20 gauge magnum, with shoulder harness
(Just a glance at the yawning muzzle of those two 10" barrels caused any number of thugs to decide "to go peacefully" to the county jail & W/O gunfire/bloodshed.)
and
8. My 1961 MORGAN PLUS 4, with wires.

yours, tex

Sounds about like what I still have. But maybe a couple pounds over 105, I think she said 108 the other day.....

#6 by a million

Definitely 2-cycle outboards. Lighter and easier to work on. If it smokes use synthetic oil in your premix.

Drag Strips, running out of them here. Used to be some great ones here in Northern Ca. Fremont, Vaca Valley,Sacramento about to shutdown. Built years ago, now too many new homes, and the people complain about the noise.!

Already been brought back to life . . . http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/

This was me in Torremolinos Spain in 1973




Here is my 1973 Triumph 750 Bonneville sitting outside my home in Oklahoma

That's worth keeping!

It wasn't until the Brits introduced their Hinckley "New Bonnevilles" in 2001 that I was able to properly satisfy my British motorcycle "Jones".

Mine was a 2002 model. It utilized a 360 degree parallel twin,...but it had double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder,... and counter balancers on the crank to keep it from rattlin' itself to pieces.

They were fairly neutered as they came from the factory in order to placate the EPA Nazis,...but relief was only a rejetting of the carbs,...a pair of K&N slip on air filters,..and some free flowing mufflers away. It you took the time and expense to make those modifications, they were the most badass Bonnevilles ever produced. I fitted mine with some Bitubo shocks and a 140 profile rear tire to take advantage of the increased horsepower,.....then just rode the chit out of it for many miles. You could just flip these things around like nothing.

Me and some buds used to make occasional trips down to the Gatlinburg. They could run away from me on the straightaways,....but up on the Cherohala Scenic Skyway, I'd roll up and push my front wheel inside of their rear in the curves just to mess with them.

Good times on this bullet proof Brit bike,....very good times.

148 main jets,..2 shims on the needles,...3.5 turns out on the air, K&N filters,...Bitubo shocks,...D&D reverse cone mufflers, a 140 profile rear tire,...ride the piss out of it as hard as you dare. It ain't gonna break.

Maintenance?

Yeah, clean the carb once in awhile and desalt the cooling system.

they still.make 2 stroke outboards. but the newer 4 atrokes beat the hell.out of them.

BSA Gold Star . Of course with out the Lucas ignition and Magnito.

PS . To much electronics and salt water don’t mix. Evenrude 2 stroke. Hasbeen

With the huge number of small parts composing a 4 stroke i have a hard time believing it would still be trouble free as has been my 92 200 hp Johnson other than having busted the lower unit on a submerged pipeline in a river.

jaguartx,

Fwiw, in 2006 I bid on/bought for a grade-school chum (who is a commercial trotliner) a pair of 1965 40HP JOHNSON outboard motors at an auction.
(He needed 2 more outboards for his ever-increasing fishing business.)

About 6 weeks ago, I talked by phone to Bob & he said that both of those OBs are still running FINE, with no more than normal maintenance procedures.
(He runs his trotline boats 365 days a year.)

I'd bet that he runs each of his outboards more in a single year than recreational boaters do in their lifetime. Further, my guess that his 1957-65 OMC Big Twins will be running acceptably long after recreational boaters have had to replace their "modern" outboards. = Big Twins are grossly "over-engineered" & "tougher than a dollar steak".

yours, tex

The original VW van! I am dying to get a 1971 VW van like I used to have. They are very costly these days.

There was a Navion painted up as a Blue Angel. As soon as I saw it I called. Too late. Talk about the one that got away.

Jim

Hell no.

A decent freaking gas can...

Wing windows.

One of the reasons I like this vintage Toyota. Got a lot of refinements like fuel injection and air, but still has wing windows and a manual lever for 4x.

I'll take a 2018 re-do of an 1981 F150 4X4 with 300/6, 4 speed, manual hubs, manual shift lever for the transfer-case and gear to gear for the timing. Drove my old one 310,000 mi and it always brought me home until a red light runner totaled it out on my way to work. Oh, and dual fuel tanks with manual fuel pump and no hydraulic clutch ether.

Old 2 stroke outboards had a lot of zip. Had a 1983 Ventura Regatta 17' bass boat from 1986 till 2015. 150 V6 Black Max on the back. Now you must think old school here. Wanted to get it's potential speed out of it for giggles early on. Bolted on a jack plate and mounted it so the lower unit was running center of bullet case about an inch or so below water line when trimmed out. Ran a 26" Big Eared Chopper prop cupped and had about 2 blades at a time in the water. Highest I could go and still get good water pickup. Could get right on 70mph flickin on the speedo but it was goosey. Always wanted to chine walk when it was trimmed out good. Was turning about 6k top end. It was a boat that required a driver and Lordy me that was a rush. Not like current models feeling like your sitting at the dinner table going 75.

And another off-topic 2 stroke. How about the Kawaski 500 3 cylinder 2-stroker. Sweet Jesus in Heaven!! Those things outran good gossip. Had one for a while but kept blowing solder off the alternator if I missed a gear. Plus I knew pretty well I'd kill myself if I kept it much longer. But what a crotch rocket.

Other stuff, VW bug, no mas. Good memories but none I'd like to remake. Plus I had a '69 Camper Van I couldn't fix fast enough. If I'd had enough coin in that day I'd have put it out in the open and paid somebody to dynamite it. And the Corvair even worse. Death trap. Nothing up front of the driver and passenger but a tin can and air. Pulled a young kid and baby out of the front passenger side of one after a head on. Course nobody in 1966 used seat bellts. Not sure it would have mattered. Mama driving had the windshield side post in her sternum. Kid was the only survivor. I was 16.

https://www.amazon.com/VP-Gallon-Sq...1&sr=1-3&keywords=vp+gas+canYeah

I think that, like with the others on the list (save for the Winchester Model 12 ) there's a real rose-coloured glasses comes into play when people talk about the unkillable old 2 strokes of the 50s. I have one of these, a British Seagull, and yes, it is bone simple, was built to last, and you can easily tear it down and fix just about anything on it, with no more than some spanners and a pocketknife. However, it is also noisy and dirty, leaving a slick in its wake, and while you can get at everything and fix it, you also often need to be doing something. Whether it is replacing the cork on the fuel tap or adjusting the throttle linkage there's always some little [bleep] thing. There also seems to be a "knack" to everything, such as starting it for example, or manoeuvring (no neutral or reverse on these). A modern outboard of the same horsepower which I have is basically crank and go, and while I mightn't be as keen to pull it down I just don't need to do so. It is quiet and smooth and I don't burn oil. I don't think it is a matter of the Seagull being old and cranky either - they were like that from new. All good fun and all, but if you actually just want to have a reliable means of getting from A to B they have long since been left behind.

I think the same's true of old cars like VW Beetles. I've driven several and even back in the 80s they were slow and noisy and pretty basic. By today's standards they are glacially slow, loud and spartan, the handling, braking and secondary safety is dark ages stuff, and personally nowadays I wouldn't drive one on a public road on a bet. Old bikes ditto - I can't speak directly of Nortons but Triumph, bevel-drive Ducati and Guzzi made me wary of the sort of bike where you always wonder whether you'll actually be going for a ride today or not.

Sunshine Golden Raisin biscuits

Geno

PS I surely do miss my '54 BelAire 2 dr coupe, but not enough I'd spend money on one if they could bring it back. Modernized some (Read that as a "maintenance free " Toyota powerplant) and I'd think on it.

Or one could go for steel:

https://deutscheoptik.com/cart.php?m=search_results&search=Jerry+can

I have a four pack of the 20L (5 gal) ones, a couple each of the 10L (2.5 gal) and (5L 1 gal+) and I'm extremely happy with everything except the rubber flex spout which dried out and cracked in the first year's use. But I don't really need them so no biggie. Buy a four pack of the 5 gal ones with the gaskets and spouts and there's free shipping I think.

One of the 5 liter ones does duty as the 2 cycle mix can for the weed eater. 5 gal ones are for storage/emergency supply. Sta-Bil storage added.

Another option, but USA made I believe and spendy

https://wavianusa.com/black-5-3-gallon-can.html

Geno

yep, with floor vents

FB--nice truck.

I wouldn't want to be stuck needing to use anything on that list.

Ford 7.3l diesel engine.

Yep....sign me up for a 36hp 1960 VW Bug identical to my first car.

Browning Hi-Power
Winchester M94 25-35
Remington 700 ADL 7mm Express (walnut/blued)

Yeah this

Eh...what an evil handling rocket, you mean. Only thing worse was the 750 triple. Those Kaw triples would go.....in a straight line.

Man...body shops loved them and stocked a LOT of front fenders and tops. They had a proclivity for being tits-up.

I've got a couple of these and they work real well. They have a push button valve on the back of the nozzle which allows you to get the nozzle positioned before the gas starts coming out. It also makes it easy to stop the flow of gas when the tank is full.

https://www.equipsupply.com/5-gal-r...wmLvb3AIVRxuBCh1-GgR2EAQYESABEgLzJPD_BwE

THIS IS MY 1955 EVINRUDE 15 HORSE

IT STILL RUNS GREAT AND IS63 YEARS OLD.
BEAT THAT, 4 STROKES!

I'd go for zip, zero and zilch for all of them.

Steve

Two stroke Motocrossers.

Some of the best days of my life were spent on a violent 500cc two stroke.

Amazing bikes.
Motocross went straight to hell when it went 4 stroke.

Thanks pal. I'm enjoying it. Have a 2009 Toyota and hate that thing. Can't spin the tires, beeps and buzzers up the ass. Dog sits on the passenger seat, sets off the seatbelt alarm. Spin the tires, truck disables power to the wheels. F that truck, absolutely hate that F'n thing.

THIS would be my driveway...

So ugly it's cool..., but you'd think they would have gone with front and back matching fenders... or is it bastardized?

I think those back fenders are close to the williys pickup fenders.

google images search for Jeep Forward Control

The Mod12 Winchester for sure.